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July 29, 2023, 04:52:18 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

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July 29, 2023, 05:29:00 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

First of all there is now an additional competitor when it comes to money and that are the clubs from Saudi Arabia and then there is still Neymar. But they will have problems next season for sure. Maybe not so much in Ligue 1 games, but the Champions League can't be one of their main goals. I don't know how they would even make it into the final or the semi-final with the team that is left when Mbappe is gone and Messi is gone. Especially Mbappe was the one who took them through the Champions League stages in the most important games and with Messi also gone, a world class player who is able to provide excellent assists is also missing.

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July 29, 2023, 05:51:13 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
PSG would not exist? I don't think so, PSG have a lot of money and they are a big club in Paris, without Mbappe I think PSG still can exist. Mbappe is an important player in their team, PSG already know that, so they want to extend his contract with Mbappe. But as we know Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract, so PSG efforts to keep Mbappe are quite difficult.

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July 29, 2023, 06:01:06 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

First of all there is now an additional competitor when it comes to money and that are the clubs from Saudi Arabia and then there is still Neymar. But they will have problems next season for sure. Maybe not so much in Ligue 1 games, but the Champions League can't be one of their main goals. I don't know how they would even make it into the final or the semi-final with the team that is left when Mbappe is gone and Messi is gone. Especially Mbappe was the one who took them through the Champions League stages in the most important games and with Messi also gone, a world class player who is able to provide excellent assists is also missing.
I'm sure without Messi and Mbappe, PSG will be in serious trouble. Neymar is of course a good player, but still without the main strikers they will have difficulties too. I think we will see something similar to what happened with Barcelona after Messi left or Liverpool when Mane left. They probably won't be able to win the League next season.

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July 29, 2023, 06:23:50 PM
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In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist.
PSG would not exist? I don't think so
PSG might not exist might be understood as PSG will not be able to play in advanced stages of Champions League for example. I tend to agree with this especially if I take on consideration their games vs Al Nassr and Osaka. PSG have a serious problem in the attack line without Mbappe, even though Neymar was on the benches, and with their defence line since many mistakes was done.
There is much efforts have to be done. What I disagree with is not having top stars players means the club will fail. Newcastle United had normal players comparing to Chelsea and Spurs for example, yet finished way in front of them.

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July 29, 2023, 06:31:47 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
PSG would not exist? I don't think so, PSG have a lot of money and they are a big club in Paris, without Mbappe I think PSG still can exist. Mbappe is an important player in their team, PSG already know that, so they want to extend his contract with Mbappe. But as we know Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract, so PSG efforts to keep Mbappe are quite difficult.
Even though Paris SG has a lot of money to get quality player, it will be very difficult to get player like Kylian Mbappe and until now Paris SG has no candidate to replace Mbappe.
I know if maybe in Kylian Mbappe is very important or really needed in Paris SG but all this will just be nonsense because Mbappe doesn't want to be at this clubs anymore and even though Paris SG has to be left by its top players this clubs will not have a drop in performance because of me look at Paris SG signing several new players to replace Mbappe as he begins to leave this top club.
Another thing that make all of this seem uncertain is the problem of Paris SG and Kylian Mbappe, whose truth is still a mystery

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July 29, 2023, 06:38:50 PM
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I do not think that they "cared" and that's the result. I know that not caring looks like that and I have seen it before. When players do not run all that much unless there is someone there, it's like putting the effort in it, plus they weren't having fun playing the game neither, they all looked like "I rather be at home watching this than play it" type of mood.

When you combine all of these together that results with something much worse and you could lose to any team in the world no matter how great you are. We have seen teams lose cup games to lower division teams because of this and that means we are not going to see anything else for PSG. Obviously we are looking for something that is largely because of it was just a friendly.
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July 29, 2023, 06:42:33 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
Correct, dude. PSG was great before Kylian Mbappe signed. Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Edinson Cavani, and Neymar JR fill me with longing. Their enormous pockets have helped them attract big personalities.

Is money always power? Just because PSG keeps attracting players doesnt imply they'll join. A team's success isn't only about getting big names. It also depends on teamwork.

Mbappe's possible departure saddens me. However, PSG has withstood star player losses before. They'll have a steep climb, especially in the Champions League, but should we give up on them? I'd wait.


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July 29, 2023, 06:54:42 PM
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Do you still think Ramos is still in the current PSG squad?
In fact, Ramos current status is without a club because PSG also did not extend his contract. With the contract not renewed, Ramos can be owned by any club at this moment for free, but I wonder why you still think Ramos is still part of the PSG squad. Also, regarding that match it seems that PSG also only played second-tier players, so it seems natural for PSG to lose. But indeed, as a strong team in Ligue 1, it is only natural that the quality of the second tier players can also have good abilities to win in friendly matches like that.
It was reported that Ramos was approached by the team from MLS. Indeed after Ramos ended his contract with PSG he has not found a new team for his further career. Now one thing that makes me sure is that it will be difficult for him to find a new team because he is already 37 years old, so that will be the end of his career in his beautiful journey in playing football.

Apart from that, he is indeed the best defender we have ever seen at Real Madrid, but because he is old, of course, the decline in his performance is the main point for the team to recruit him. Even if the team from MLS manages to recruit him, I will make sure he will play for the next 1 season before announcing his retirement.

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July 29, 2023, 06:56:08 PM
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Lately PSG are looking for new recruits and they started bidding for Bradley Barcola from Lyon at a cost of 30 million euros, but it didn't take long for Lyon to immediately reject the offer. This did not make PSG give up and they tried to activate the release of Dembele's clause from Barcelona at a cost of 50 million euros, but the player also refused this offer because he wanted to stay at Barcelona.

I think PSG are trying hard to find a replacement for Mbappe if he does leave this summer. Maybe if the offer for Bradley Barcola is rejected, PSG will have to make a new, higher bid if they really need the services of this player and considering he is still 20 years old, of course Lyon also doesn't want to lose, their players are only priced cheaply by PSG.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1685358467614121984

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July 29, 2023, 09:05:58 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

You are all greatly exaggerating. Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Mendes, Hakimi are big players and many of them are young and have every opportunity to progress. There is also Veratti, Vitinho and some other close players. If Mbappe leaves, then obviously he will be replaced by someone, and even if it is an “average” player (of course, it is almost impossible to completely replace Mbappe), all together, with the right leadership, they will represent a serious force in Europe, it’s not even worth talking about Ligue 1 I see.

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July 29, 2023, 09:25:48 PM
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You are all greatly exaggerating. Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Mendes, Hakimi are big players and many of them are young and have every opportunity to progress. There is also Veratti, Vitinho and some other close players. If Mbappe leaves, then obviously he will be replaced by someone, and even if it is an “average” player (of course, it is almost impossible to completely replace Mbappe), all together, with the right leadership, they will represent a serious force in Europe, it’s not even worth talking about Ligue 1 I see.
Did you hear about Marco Veratti rumor to close with one Saudi Pro League teams? he has reached verbal agreement and seems close for leaving PSG next season. I don't doubt with current PSG player composition right now like Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Neymar, Mendes, Hakim and Assensio but they don't have enough for guarantee PSG winning Champion League next season? Ligue 1 is not excited right now for PSG because they won many domestic league tittle and actually their fans huge expected for winning Champion League.

PSG have to show their capacity not only strong in domestic league but also have motivate for winning Champion League tittles, if not problem with many star player leaves, PSG have improve performance and lead to Champion League final for next season.

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July 29, 2023, 09:31:36 PM
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It seems true. I saw so many differences when PSG was still having mbappe and messi compared when PSG didn't have those players. The performance from the attacking lines have been dropping so hard. The ability to make goals become very small.
In fact, when PSG still had Messi, Mbappe, and also Neymar, who could be considered football superstars at that time, they were unable to win the UCL. And their performance is also not as good as expected. Indeed, the many football stars in the same position do not guarantee that the club will always be strong. And right now, they have lost Messi, and they will most likely miss Mbappe as well. only Neymar is left, but not optimal either. I don't know how they will be. Maybe they will stay good in French soccer. but whether it can compete or not in the UCL.

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July 29, 2023, 09:52:41 PM
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

First of all there is now an additional competitor when it comes to money and that are the clubs from Saudi Arabia and then there is still Neymar. But they will have problems next season for sure. Maybe not so much in Ligue 1 games, but the Champions League can't be one of their main goals. I don't know how they would even make it into the final or the semi-final with the team that is left when Mbappe is gone and Messi is gone. Especially Mbappe was the one who took them through the Champions League stages in the most important games and with Messi also gone, a world class player who is able to provide excellent assists is also missing.
I'm sure without Messi and Mbappe, PSG will be in serious trouble. Neymar is of course a good player, but still without the main strikers they will have difficulties too. I think we will see something similar to what happened with Barcelona after Messi left or Liverpool when Mane left. They probably won't be able to win the League next season.

If Neymar decides to stay at PSG or if it is just not up for debate to leave the club, I am sure that he will quickly realize in the first few gams of next season that the players next to him or those he could assists or receives assists from are not Mbappe and Messi anymore. I think for Neymar it must feel like a whole different game as he himself has the quality to understand the game mechanics on the level of Mbappe and to some degree on the level of Messi. I bet he is carefully observing the situation with Mbappe and trying to make sure he is not left behind and without any chance for big titles next season.

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July 29, 2023, 10:16:27 PM
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Aubameyang must be really contented with leaving Chelsea now. Because he has really wasted his time there without playing properly. Lewandowski's arrival at Barcelona brought about really bad series of events for Aubameyang clearly. I'm at least happy for him that he found a club for himself this summer and didn't stay at Chelsea any longer.

Marseille is his new home now. He is technically back in France after years at the same time. You know that Lacazette has also returned here and he has been like a goal machine since the day he arrived. I would like to see the same effort from Aubameyang but let's see.

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July 29, 2023, 11:18:18 PM
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Another bad result from PSG. It was losing against cerezo ozaka.



I saw that if PSG has been using all of its new players. The team was dominating the match but it keeps lose against CRZ. CRZ was only able doing counter attack but i must admit that if almost all of counter attacks made by CRZ has very high accuracy.
So many shoots on target being made by CRZ unlike PSG which is only a few from so many shoots. The performance from PSG is still far from what i have expected.

Ugarte, asensio, and so many great players already played against CRZ but the result was still the same. CRZ was beating PSG. So many people were also showing their disappointed in various online media like youtube.
This is only a friendly match but it means a lot for me. A big team like PSG might able to beat CRZ easily but it does nothing against CRZ.

PSG loses its souls in the attacking lines.

I know it's just a friendly match between these two teams but still, I was expecting to see PSG winning this game against this Asian team because both teams are in training camps and both are in the same situation because PSG had more possession in this game and CRZ used the goal opportunities very well.  


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In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
What do you think before? On what basis did you say that the team will not exist if Mbappe leaves? It sounds like Mbappe is the only player in the team. If Mbappe leaves Paris, PSG will replace him with another player in exchange for money. And we still consider Neymar a world-class player. If Neymar can play the entire season without injury, then the Brazilian superstar will make it possible to surpass all the stars. A team never depends on one player. Mbappe is a good player but Mbappe can't do anything for the team alone.

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July 30, 2023, 08:06:14 AM
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Mbappe's absence will surely cause PSG to lose power. However it isn't the end of the world for PSG either. They couldn't become champions in the Champions League even with Mbappe. It has been related to the management style of the team more than anything. Now Mbappe is entering his last season here.

In his last season he is going to play under Luis Enrique's management. If we see Enrique as the right man for PSG to become really competitive for the Champions League title maybe they can finally win it in presence of Mbappe as well.

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July 30, 2023, 08:28:56 AM
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In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
What do you think before? On what basis did you say that the team will not exist if Mbappe leaves? It sounds like Mbappe is the only player in the team. If Mbappe leaves Paris, PSG will replace him with another player in exchange for money. And we still consider Neymar a world-class player. If Neymar can play the entire season without injury, then the Brazilian superstar will make it possible to surpass all the stars. A team never depends on one player. Mbappe is a good player but Mbappe can't do anything for the team alone.
Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

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Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...

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