French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[marcous]

In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

What do you think before? On what basis did you say that the team will not exist if Mbappe leaves? It sounds like Mbappe is the only player in the team. If Mbappe leaves Paris, PSG will replace him with another player in exchange for money. And we still consider Neymar a world-class player. If Neymar can play the entire season without injury, then the Brazilian superstar will make it possible to surpass all the stars. A team never depends on one player. Mbappe is a good player but Mbappe can't do anything for the team alone.

Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

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[Cryptmuster]

Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...

[Litzki1990]

Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...

Even after giving so much money, privileges and power, PSG could not become a club of his own mind, that's why Mbappe is planning to change the club while he has a contract with PSG. Surely the current club will not take kindly to a player secretly discussing arguments with the other team after placing him in the team with so much power and privileges. Mbappe believes he can't achieve anything at PSG, which is why he wants to move to Real Madrid. In other seasons, PSG has made all kinds of preparations to keep Mbappe in the team, but if there are rumors of Mbappe's club change, PSG is not planning to keep Mbappe, that is, PSG will let Mbappe go if they get enough transfer price.

[X-ray]

In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

PSG will always exist. It's a club and you can't even compare it with mbappe. Mbappe's name being so big after PSG has been making him to be the biggest transfer in the history of football. He gained so much popularity. His popularity was even bigger once he was also winning world cup with france in 2018. PSG just need to let him go and find his replacement. The club must never ever try to buy a new player with a non sense price like mbappe and neymar. It's just destroying the price of football players in the market.
The club signed Mbappe and other big names, but now they're focusing on adapting to the new era by mixing old and young players who can be long-term assets. PSG already prepared some names to replace mbappe as soon as possible.
The club is still waiting for an answer from mbappe regarding his future. Mbappe already rejected saudi's offer which was very bad for the club.

[Docnaster]

PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

I don't know why people make such a bogus statement. How can you say that without Mbappe,  PSG will not exist?
Have you forgotten that PSG has already existed for long and has been doing well before mbappe. PSG has been winning their local League and also advancing to a very good level in the Champions League.
There is no doubt that Mbappe is a very good player, but he has brought nothing in PSG rather than expensive salary and division among the team members.

[shogun47]

Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...

Even after giving so much money, privileges and power, PSG could not become a club of his own mind, that's why Mbappe is planning to change the club while he has a contract with PSG. Surely the current club will not take kindly to a player secretly discussing arguments with the other team after placing him in the team with so much power and privileges. Mbappe believes he can't achieve anything at PSG, which is why he wants to move to Real Madrid. In other seasons, PSG has made all kinds of preparations to keep Mbappe in the team, but if there are rumors of Mbappe's club change, PSG is not planning to keep Mbappe, that is, PSG will let Mbappe go if they get enough transfer price.

I think it should first be defined what success for PSG really means. Is the Champions League title the only title that counts for them? Then yes, they have failed, but they still have dominated Ligue 1. Although they also failed to win the Coup de France for the last two seasons when Messi, Neymar and Mbappe were there. It is a failed project to a certain degree before it even started because when you are building the best squad in the world with money and then have that squad play against way inferior teams all year long except for the Champions League, I believe that those top players lack high level competition to also be able to perform on the highest level.

[Jody.Drummer]

There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.

[tusandii]

Luis Enrique definitely has reasons for this but this defeat doesn't need to be regretted and of course in the future PSG can still play with their main players.
At least in this match PSG can still compete by scoring 2 goals even though they had to concede 3 goals until the round 2 finished.
I also salute Shinji Kagawa for managing to play well enough to even contribute 1 goal and at the age of 34, Shinji Kagawa can still keep up with the games of other young players.

Enrique must be solving the problems in the club as soon as possible. I meant if we must aware of how bad the performance from PSG during the pre season. PSG has been using a lot of its main players in the match against japanese team.
The problem is i have seen so many non synchronized pass in the PSG. The club needs more time to build its chemistry. I guess that if everything will be fine but it may take more time for PSG to build its momentum.
The fact that if PSG's attacking line looked so weak without mbappe. PSG must be thinking again before try to sell mbappe.
The club has proven if mbappe's performance is very important for PSG at this moment.

I have the thought that Luis Enrique wants some to show some skill and try to play without PSG's star players.
Actually, this decision was quite good because in the future the players would not be too dependent on other star players when a problem occurred, such as several star players leaving or getting injured.
Indeed, Mbappe played a very important role for PSG and from that match it was clear that PSG's attack line was not optimal.

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I think Luis Enrique's decision to not start star players of Paris Saint Germaine in their preseason matches is because of the fact that he wants pick the best players from the younger members of the team.
Enrique surely knows what he's doing and would definitely be successful in his time at the French capital. He's simply applying his personal football philosophy and hopefully it'll yield great results

So, that's my thought right now because young players also need more experience so there's no need to hope or depend on star players in their club.
I don't think badly of Luis Enrique's decision in that match and there was an advantage from that game that when PSG play with other young players they have more confidence.

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Yes I agree with what you said, that this defeat shouldn't be overly regretted, because if they do that I don't think it will be good for the development of the squad. They can look at this result with the reasoning that they will make it a motivation so that they can play better in the future.
I understand this is unexpected, and surely for their fans who want to always see their proud club win in every match will definitely be disappointed. But this is just a pre-season match, there is still time for them to improve what is lacking from what they have at the moment.

But many fans from PSG were so disappointed by the defeat and they didn't believe PSG had lost this pre-season game.
If only fans can have good thoughts then they can understand and understand that PSG is conducting trials playing with their young players with good goals for the future.
When playing in an official league, I'm sure PSG can give satisfactory results and use their flagship players.

[klidex]

PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

I don't know why people make such a bogus statement. How can you say that without Mbappe,  PSG will not exist?
Have you forgotten that PSG has already existed for long and has been doing well before mbappe. PSG has been winning their local League and also advancing to a very good level in the Champions League.
There is no doubt that Mbappe is a very good player, but he has brought nothing in PSG rather than expensive salary and division among the team members.

We need to know that Kylian Mbappe joined Paris SG in 2018 and before joining this club Paris SG already had very good quality and always got the top places in the French league and the arrival of Kylian Mbappe had no effect whatsoever and was still the same as a league title local without being able to get the European league title or the champions league.
So it's not surprising that Paris SG sold Mbappe to make more profit, even though it was very hard for Paris SG fans, but we have to understand the policy of Paris SG officials because the presence of Kylian Mbappe does not provide any surprises.
Most of us might think that Paris SG without Mbappe is like a dead club but make no mistake that is wrong thinking because there are still many other players who have good quality and I see that Paris SG management always maintains the quality of the performance of its players so that they always have an effort for every change season

[KTChampions]

You are all greatly exaggerating. Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Mendes, Hakimi are big players and many of them are young and have every opportunity to progress. There is also Veratti, Vitinho and some other close players. If Mbappe leaves, then obviously he will be replaced by someone, and even if it is an “average” player (of course, it is almost impossible to completely replace Mbappe), all together, with the right leadership, they will represent a serious force in Europe, it’s not even worth talking about Ligue 1 I see.

Did you hear about Marco Veratti rumor to close with one Saudi Pro League teams? he has reached verbal agreement and seems close for leaving PSG next season. I don't doubt with current PSG player composition right now like Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Neymar, Mendes, Hakim and Assensio but they don't have enough for guarantee PSG winning Champion League next season? Ligue 1 is not excited right now for PSG because they won many domestic league tittle and actually their fans huge expected for winning Champion League.

PSG have to show their capacity not only strong in domestic league but also have motivate for winning Champion League tittles, if not problem with many star player leaves, PSG have improve performance and lead to Champion League final for next season.

Even if you have two Mbappe, two Haaland, two Casemiro, two KDB in your team, the Champions League title will not be guaranteed - there is a high degree of randomness. The conversation was about something else. The fact that PSG is a team of one person and if Mbappe leaves then PSG will not be able to win Ligue 1. This is complete nonsense in my opinion and PSG will continue to dominate as before.

[zuzie]

PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

Correct, dude. PSG was great before Kylian Mbappe signed. Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Edinson Cavani, and Neymar JR fill me with longing. Their enormous pockets have helped them attract big personalities.

Is money always power? Just because PSG keeps attracting players doesnt imply they'll join. A team's success isn't only about getting big names. It also depends on teamwork.

Mbappe's possible departure saddens me. However, PSG has withstood star player losses before. They'll have a steep climb, especially in the Champions League, but should we give up on them? I'd wait.

So far I don't really follow public opinion on the issue "Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract / Mbappe doesn't want to play for PSG again, and so on" because he is a top player right now so I don't want to overdo it because there will always be controversial news related to him with a specific purpose. What is clear is that I was refer to the situation of PSG and Mbappe in the previous agreement, where more than 80% predicted he would leave the club at that time but the opposite happen.

[rendravolt]

PSG announced its seventh signing, namely Arnau Tenas from Barcelona. He was brought in as a free agent and his contract runs until 2026 and it looks like he will be a back-up to Gianluigi Donnaruma. We know a veteran goalkeeper like Keylor Navas is likely to leave or retire soon considering he is already 36 years old, so PSG must bring in a goalkeeper who is much younger and the choice is right by choosing Arnau Tenas who is still 22 years old. It looks like PSG are working very hard this summer and they will continue to bring in more players before the market closes.

[borovichok]

So far I don't really follow public opinion on the issue "Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract / Mbappe doesn't want to play for PSG again, and so on" because he is a top player right now so I don't want to overdo it because there will always be controversial news related to him with a specific purpose. What is clear is that I was refer to the situation of PSG and Mbappe in the previous agreement, where more than 80% predicted he would leave the club at that time but the opposite happen.

PAG president,  Nasser Al-Khelaifi scouting the possible means to triggered the sell clause of Kylian Mbappe, the whole thing seems impossible because the player is not giving greenlight to any bid and also missed out on their pre-season tour. Kylian Mbappe is ranked first as the most valuable player for the parisians and they can't afford to allow him leave as a free agent, hugh loss on their end. PSG knows exactly what to do, they tried a couple of times to hook up the Frenchman with the Saudi clubs that are willing to pay huge figures to bring him over, disregarding the fact that Kylian Mbappe have other options to explore at his own disposal.

[fachant]

So far I don't really follow public opinion on the issue "Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract / Mbappe doesn't want to play for PSG again, and so on" because he is a top player right now so I don't want to overdo it because there will always be controversial news related to him with a specific purpose. What is clear is that I was refer to the situation of PSG and Mbappe in the previous agreement, where more than 80% predicted he would leave the club at that time but the opposite happen.

PAG president,  Nasser Al-Khelaifi scouting the possible means to triggered the sell clause of Kylian Mbappe, the whole thing seems impossible because the player is not giving greenlight to any bid and also missed out on their pre-season tour. Kylian Mbappe is ranked first as the most valuable player for the parisians and they can't afford to allow him leave as a free agent, hugh loss on their end. PSG knows exactly what to do, they tried a couple of times to hook up the Frenchman with the Saudi clubs that are willing to pay huge figures to bring him over, disregarding the fact that Kylian Mbappe have other options to explore at his own disposal.

Kylian Mbappe is one of the best players in the PSG team. But Kylian Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG right now. I believe Kylian Mbappe will be the next generation to leave PSG. PSG's aim to do well in the Champions League seems unlikely this season.

[snipie]

There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.

Well this will depend from the preparation of each teams and the new signings done during this period. Lens for example let some of their players leave to generate money while Marseille seems to make some serious signing to consolidate different lines. The remaining teams made only few transfers including Monaco, Lille, Nice...
It appears that next season will be PSG and Marseille face to face unless another team popped like Lille few seasons ago.

[Davian144]

Kylian Mbappe is one of the best players in the PSG team. But Kylian Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG right now. I believe Kylian Mbappe will be the next generation to leave PSG. PSG's aim to do well in the Champions League seems unlikely this season.

Why is it not possible? Is the reason simply because Kylian Mbappe wants to leave PSG, I think this can only be said as speculation because next season PSG could do well in the Champions League because everyone won't know how PSG will perform in the Champions League this season front. Even though it is predicted that if there are not the best players in a team, it will be very difficult for any team to perform well in the Champions League. But who knows if next season PSG's performance will look a little different from next season.

[beerlover]

Luis Enrique definitely has reasons for this but this defeat doesn't need to be regretted and of course in the future PSG can still play with their main players.
At least in this match PSG can still compete by scoring 2 goals even though they had to concede 3 goals until the round 2 finished.
I also salute Shinji Kagawa for managing to play well enough to even contribute 1 goal and at the age of 34, Shinji Kagawa can still keep up with the games of other young players.

Enrique must be solving the problems in the club as soon as possible. I meant if we must aware of how bad the performance from PSG during the pre season. PSG has been using a lot of its main players in the match against japanese team.
The problem is i have seen so many non synchronized pass in the PSG. The club needs more time to build its chemistry. I guess that if everything will be fine but it may take more time for PSG to build its momentum.
The fact that if PSG's attacking line looked so weak without mbappe. PSG must be thinking again before try to sell mbappe.
The club has proven if mbappe's performance is very important for PSG at this moment.

I have the thought that Luis Enrique wants some to show some skill and try to play without PSG's star players.
Actually, this decision was quite good because in the future the players would not be too dependent on other star players when a problem occurred, such as several star players leaving or getting injured.
Indeed, Mbappe played a very important role for PSG and from that match it was clear that PSG's attack line was not optimal.

They could, that's one of the main reasons. PSG is no longer a team that is "they are all about Mbappe", they are doing a good job and they should be proud of that. I know that it is going to change a lot in the end and they are going to be a fine team even without him. If you ask me, sell Mbappe today, and get a decent striker, maybe not as good as him because not many out there, but get someone that is decent, like lets say 70-80 million euro range, and I would guess that they are going to be fine.

I believe they are going to be as fine as it gets and we are going to be something that will win the league anyway, and at worst fail at UCL again anyway, so it is not going to have so much change overall, it is just not going to matter.

[hahay]

There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.

At this moment PSG still doesn't look promising because maybe, the situation and condition of the team is not entirely good. Although indeed, PSG already has a new coach who has good quality and also, Mbappe is still in the PSG squad. But it seems that Enrique's ability to make PSG consistent also doesn't look promising if I consider the results they got in this pre-season game. So yes, I personally think that because Ligue 1 is a tough competition, it seems that PSG will also find it difficult to get consistently good results next season. Therefore, it seems that there will be other clubs who might be able to take advantage of this situation to be at the top of the standings next season.

[rendravolt]

There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.

At this moment PSG still doesn't look promising because maybe, the situation and condition of the team is not entirely good. Although indeed, PSG already has a new coach who has good quality and also, Mbappe is still in the PSG squad. But it seems that Enrique's ability to make PSG consistent also doesn't look promising if I consider the results they got in this pre-season game. So yes, I personally think that because Ligue 1 is a tough competition, it seems that PSG will also find it difficult to get consistently good results next season. Therefore, it seems that there will be other clubs who might be able to take advantage of this situation to be at the top of the standings next season.

It's true that PSG haven't been able to achieve good results, especially through this pre-season game they have had quite a hard time finding a good rhythm of play so they often get unsatisfactory results and as coach Luis Enrique has a big responsibility to bring this team to the peak of its performance. Of course, if we look at the current situation, there are so many gaps that have been created due to player problems that have had a significant effect on the club and momentum like this is very rare for PSG. Other teams could take advantage of this and I agree with you, it's only a matter of time before things can get even more messed up if this isn't fixed soon

[marcous]

At this moment PSG still doesn't look promising because maybe, the situation and condition of the team is not entirely good. Although indeed, PSG already has a new coach who has good quality and also, Mbappe is still in the PSG squad. But it seems that Enrique's ability to make PSG consistent also doesn't look promising if I consider the results they got in this pre-season game. So yes, I personally think that because Ligue 1 is a tough competition, it seems that PSG will also find it difficult to get consistently good results next season. Therefore, it seems that there will be other clubs who might be able to take advantage of this situation to be at the top of the standings next season.

It is true that it is very possible to happen, because all clubs will have the same chance to win a trophy at the end of the season. Moreover, seeing PSG transfer drama this summer has diverted the focus of their players, but I hope Enrique can create a conducive atmosphere for the PSG squad thanks to his coaching experience.

Monaco, Lyon, Marseille, LOSC are a series of clubs ready to break PSG dominance in Ligue 1 to win trophies. In the Champions League competition so far only Marseille is the only club from Ligue 1 that has ever won it.