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November 17, 2023, 04:32:43 PM
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Although Lyon is currently at the bottom of the table but in fact, Lyon has 7 points and Strasbourg who is in 15th place has 12 points. Thus, atleast Lyon only has a gap of 5 points with Strasbourg which is outside the relegation zone this moment. Thus, if Lyon manages to recover to improve their performance for the better, then of course there is still a chance for Lyon to get out of the relegation zone. At least, Lyon still has points and also, still has a gap that is not so far with the team outside the relegation zone. Therefore, then of course there is still a chance for Lyon to compete in the bottom zone of course to be able to return to playing in Ligue 1 next season and not be relegated at the end of the season.
Lyon can be expected to move out of the relegation zone as the league progresses. They have been a good team all along even though this season has been so down. Lyon needs to do something great and also needs to increase the confidence of its players to try their best to win points in every match. I'm sure they won't qualify for the European zone next season, but at least Lyon can still be expected to stay in Ligue 1 next season.

Fabio Grosso has tried his best to improve the quality of Lyon's game since being appointed in mid-September, but he has only been able to produce 1 win, 2 draws and 3 defeats in his last 6 matches. Fabio Grosso has no experience in Ligue 1 and I think he is also adapting to the new competition at the moment. So let him develop with good support.

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November 17, 2023, 04:34:21 PM
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Lyon deserve a much better management. But by management I don't mean Fabio Grosso. I mean it could be much better if they find themselves a better chairman. Because no matter who they bring to manage the team they are continuing to dive deeper in the Ligue 1. I know that they won their last match against Rennes which was their first win as well. However even that was a very difficult one against a team playing with 10 players.

If Lyon have a chairman who really knows what to do to enhance this team in many ways then they would start recovering for real.  Smiley

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November 17, 2023, 04:42:11 PM
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They're not not strong, but they don't have very good goal productivity so that's going to hold them back in the games they play, and one of them in this game forced them into a draw. Their defense is strong, but it's not matched by a strong attack.
If they continue like this and don't make any changes then don't be surprised when they will be further displaced in the standings. In the transfer market they must bring in players who can answer all their deadlocks in attack until this week. That is one opportunity for them to take advantage of.
Nice may not have appeared really strong but they have been getting results that have continually kept them in good position by getting good number of goals from every match which makes they have played so far in the Ligue one this season, they only need to strength their attacking force because when they will be meeting big teams they will need it.
That is their problem this season lies in their attacking line which seems to be very confused when getting a chance to score, so they are very unproductive. 13 goals in 12 games is not a good record for a club in my opinion. Unlike the attack, they have conceded 4 goals so far, proving that their defense is working very well.
But again I have to say that the balance between attack and defense must be created very well for them to win a match they play.




Although Lyon is currently at the bottom of the table but in fact, Lyon has 7 points and Strasbourg who is in 15th place has 12 points. Thus, atleast Lyon only has a gap of 5 points with Strasbourg which is outside the relegation zone this moment. Thus, if Lyon manages to recover to improve their performance for the better, then of course there is still a chance for Lyon to get out of the relegation zone. At least, Lyon still has points and also, still has a gap that is not so far with the team outside the relegation zone. Therefore, then of course there is still a chance for Lyon to compete in the bottom zone of course to be able to return to playing in Ligue 1 next season and not be relegated at the end of the season.
Lyon's chances of getting out of the red zone are very high, but whether they will do well or not. Their frst win has to be motivational, the league goes on and when they lose their mentality, it's bad for their game. All they have to do now is focus on each match and try to take it point by point.

I think they should focus on Ligue 1 only, because if their focus is split then it will cost them too.

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November 17, 2023, 05:17:38 PM
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Lyon deserve a much better management. But by management I don't mean Fabio Grosso. I mean it could be much better if they find themselves a better chairman. Because no matter who they bring to manage the team they are continuing to dive deeper in the Ligue 1. I know that they won their last match against Rennes which was their first win as well. However even that was a very difficult one against a team playing with 10 players.

If Lyon have a chairman who really knows what to do to enhance this team in many ways then they would start recovering for real.  Smiley
The red card was given since the starting of the game which means Lyon was technically playing vs 10 players the whole game, yet they scored one goal. I agree that this result was poor even though they collected 3 points.
Lyon is sick as a team from players to management and staff. Their fans are very angry on them. It will be hard to see them falling to Ligue 2 this humiliating way.
Personally I think that this winter transfer window will be crucial for them. It is whether they fix their team there or they could say goodbye for good for Ligue 1.

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November 17, 2023, 05:31:25 PM
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Lyon deserve a much better management. But by management I don't mean Fabio Grosso. I mean it could be much better if they find themselves a better chairman. Because no matter who they bring to manage the team they are continuing to dive deeper in the Ligue 1. I know that they won their last match against Rennes which was their first win as well. However even that was a very difficult one against a team playing with 10 players.

If Lyon have a chairman who really knows what to do to enhance this team in many ways then they would start recovering for real.  Smiley
If you look at Lyon current situation, the transition process and changes to the club structure and management that new owner John Textor is trying to carry out seem to be going nowhere. As a result, Lyon performance has dropped drastically and is now slumped at the bottom of the standings and has only collected 7 points in 11 matches, maybe it would be worse if they had not recovered until the season was halfway through. Fabio Grosso hasn't been able to do much and so far his leadership has only won one win, the best thing that must be done immediately is to help Lyon get out of the degradation zone.

In the 2000s, Lyon was one of the clubs that dominated Ligue 1 under Aulas as club owner, but this season could be their worst season in the last two decades. The January transfer window must be used as a solution to recruit several new players, thereby helping to boost the club performance to avoid degradation next season.

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November 17, 2023, 05:40:15 PM
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Lyon deserve a much better management. But by management I don't mean Fabio Grosso. I mean it could be much better if they find themselves a better chairman. Because no matter who they bring to manage the team they are continuing to dive deeper in the Ligue 1. I know that they won their last match against Rennes which was their first win as well. However even that was a very difficult one against a team playing with 10 players.

If Lyon have a chairman who really knows what to do to enhance this team in many ways then they would start recovering for real.  Smiley
The red card was given since the starting of the game which means Lyon was technically playing vs 10 players the whole game, yet they scored one goal. I agree that this result was poor even though they collected 3 points.
Lyon is sick as a team from players to management and staff. Their fans are very angry on them. It will be hard to see them falling to Ligue 2 this humiliating way.
Personally I think that this winter transfer window will be crucial for them. It is whether they fix their team there or they could say goodbye for good for Ligue 1.

None of us were prepared to see such a situation with a renowned team like Lyon. The last team in the points table is Lyon. At the beginning of the season, they lost consecutive matches. However, in the last four matches we have seen some improvement in Lyon's performance. They drew in two matches and managed to win the last match.

You might be wrong. Rennes defender Guela Doue received a red card. And that's why Rennes' performance was a bit slow. Rennes players can't attack much in this match. Lyon was somewhat lucky. They took advantage of Rennes' weak defense and scored a goal. It was Lyon's first win of the season. Let's hope that the performance of Lyon's players will return to stability.

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November 17, 2023, 06:02:54 PM
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This is the system how it works right? The big clubs are always going to go for the players who are performing well. And the offers are also going to be so good that very few clubs are actually going to be able to reject them to keep the players that they have. Sometimes the players also want to leave willingly. Just because they want to play in a club that has legacy, which is actually very much understandable by the way. So when the bigger clubs are actually throwing money to get a certain player, I think it is rest assured that they are definitely going to get that player.

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Top clubs are to blame for the current trend of exorbitant costs for players who have not competed in premier tournaments such as the UEFA Champions League. It is uncommon to see a player decline an offer from an elite team these days because every player wants to scoop up recognition and accolades in games. Understand that top level teams generate a great deal of focused attention, unlike less fortunate teams. Every player has a personal decision to make, and being in the spotlight will be an abundance of humorous use and an enormous accomplishment for them.
They have made the transfer market too costly for teams who don't have the financial capacity to to compete with them.Teams like Chelsea have made buying of players very expensive,and the most amazing part of what they do is signing players who don't really worth the amount of money they pay for them.Take a look at Mudryk's deal,who is a player not worth upto 60 millions,but they paid excess money for him and uptill now,he hasn't been able to live pto the amount they spent on him.Same thing to Caicedo,who was the most expensive buy in the last transfer window,a player who have not won any European trophy, cost more that 100 million pounds.It is something unreasonable to hear,but Chelsea keep on doing that so that other rival teams will not get good players.

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November 17, 2023, 06:08:27 PM
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The game between Paris Saint Germaine and Monaco will be a very interesting match to watch because of how impressive the two teams have been this season in the French Ligue 1.
Monaco who are currently in the third position trailing league leaders with just three points knows that a win in that game will take them to the same number of points with Paris Saint Germaine.
That being said, I expect the league leaders to win that game because if how strong they are and the fact that they'll be playing at home in front of their home fans.

I'm not too sure if this fight will offer an interesting fight.

IMO, Monaco is just as inconsistent as PSG. the difference is, now PSG is starting to perform well in Ligue 1. Likewise with the system that Enrique will implement, I am still quite sure that he will continue to carry out his experiments.  Regarding patterns, it seems that 4-2-2-2 is now Enrique's option when his squad plays against teams in Ligue 1.

Likewise with Monaco, after I researched it in several matches, Adolf Hutter is also always experimenting with patterns and systems. and because of that, I just realized why Monaco hasn't achieved consistent play. even though, they brought in Folarin Balogun. However, his presence in the Monaco squad has not been able to lift this team to its best performance.

Even though this match still has a week to go, based on the temporary odds, PSG is superior. It's only natural, because the Les Parisiens squad plays at its own headquarters. PSG with @1.50, Monaco @5.80. there is a fairly obvious gap, even though PSG will have a crucial match after this bet against Newcastle in the Champions League group phase. On paper, the home team is the favorite in this match and that is normal.

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November 17, 2023, 06:15:45 PM
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AS Monaco's last three matches against PSG managed to win twice with quite convincing scores and that happened when PSG was still with several star players, but it was a home match for AS Monaco and because this is different where PSG will be the home team, of course, PSG will ensure 3 points in this match so that their position in the standings does not shift because if they lose or draw then the team that will benefit the most is Nice who will have the opportunity to return to first place in the standings because they are only one point different from PSG and will also face the Toulouse team which they are very likely to beat.
PSG is favored with odds @ 1.51 and AS Monaco gets odds @ 5.60, if PSG's attackers can appear consistent they should be able to score more than two goals and Mbappe, who successfully scored a hat trick in the previous match, will be expected to contribute again in this match.
There is enough time to calculate how that game will go, we do not have to rush into it, there are national teams and we should see how players do at their national team, and some injuries or not etc etc, we do not even know if players will be too tired and they need to get better.

I think with all of that in mind, I believe that we are going to end up with a situation that is going to be pretty difficult to handle, it is not going to be all that easy and we need to remember that we can't make it change all that much, we need to make sure that everything stays the same as much as possible, that should be the most important thing.

I understand that we are not going to end up with a situation that has to be. After those national games are over, the odds are clear that PSG will win, just because Monaco managed to win some games they shouldn't, doesn't mean they will do that again.

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November 17, 2023, 06:37:12 PM
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There is enough time to calculate how that game will go, we do not have to rush into it, there are national teams and we should see how players do at their national team, and some injuries or not etc etc, we do not even know if players will be too tired and they need to get better.

I think with all of that in mind, I believe that we are going to end up with a situation that is going to be pretty difficult to handle, it is not going to be all that easy and we need to remember that we can't make it change all that much, we need to make sure that everything stays the same as much as possible, that should be the most important thing.

I understand that we are not going to end up with a situation that has to be. After those national games are over, the odds are clear that PSG will win, just because Monaco managed to win some games they shouldn't, doesn't mean they will do that again.
Luis Enrique still has work to do for Les Parisiens this season; he needs to win the Ligue One title and qualify from UEFA Group F. These are the fundamental phases that can earn Luis Enrique his flowers at Parc des Princes. Paris Saint-Germain versus Monaco up next: We know what a formidable opponent AS Monaco can be because they have won more games against PSG in previous seasons but let's watch out for this season. Monaco has routinely stunned PSG everytime they meet, and I believe this time will be different; I expect PSG will come out on top this season.

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If you look at Lyon current situation, the transition process and changes to the club structure and management that new owner John Textor is trying to carry out seem to be going nowhere. As a result, Lyon performance has dropped drastically and is now slumped at the bottom of the standings and has only collected 7 points in 11 matches, maybe it would be worse if they had not recovered until the season was halfway through. Fabio Grosso hasn't been able to do much and so far his leadership has only won one win, the best thing that must be done immediately is to help Lyon get out of the degradation zone.

In the 2000s, Lyon was one of the clubs that dominated Ligue 1 under Aulas as club owner, but this season could be their worst season in the last two decades. The January transfer window must be used as a solution to recruit several new players, thereby helping to boost the club performance to avoid degradation next season.

You're completely right about that, but I'm not sure how much money Lyon will have to spend in the next transfer window to strengthen their squad depth. They have a new coach who is still in the adaptation stage, but the depth of the squad must also be a focus so that Lyon avoids the relegation zone more quickly.

I believe in the end Lyon will be in better form than in their first 11 games of the season. They are a team that usually does a good job season after season, but this season they suffered too much. Lack of productive strikers and weak defense are two problems that must be resolved immediately, Lyon should not feel comfortable like this.

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Luis Enrique still has work to do for Les Parisiens this season; he needs to win the Ligue One title and qualify from UEFA Group F. These are the fundamental phases that can earn Luis Enrique his flowers at Parc des Princes. Paris Saint-Germain versus Monaco up next: We know what a formidable opponent AS Monaco can be because they have won more games against PSG in previous seasons but let's watch out for this season. Monaco has routinely stunned PSG everytime they meet, and I believe this time will be different; I expect PSG will come out on top this season.
Yes, Enrique current task is very difficult, he must be able to try to get 2 titles in League 1 and Champions League, even though it is very impossible to lift champions League trophy, but at least Enrique is given the responsibility to be able to give his best and the most important thing is actually to remain in first place in League 1 until the end of the season.
But current situation is a bit difficult, under pressure from the two clubs Nice and Monaco, while in upcoming match PSG will have to face their rivals.
There are no big expectations, it just that fans want PSG to be more consistent or draw matches better.

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November 17, 2023, 07:54:36 PM
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There is enough time to calculate how that game will go, we do not have to rush into it, there are national teams and we should see how players do at their national team, and some injuries or not etc etc, we do not even know if players will be too tired and they need to get better.

I think with all of that in mind, I believe that we are going to end up with a situation that is going to be pretty difficult to handle, it is not going to be all that easy and we need to remember that we can't make it change all that much, we need to make sure that everything stays the same as much as possible, that should be the most important thing.

I understand that we are not going to end up with a situation that has to be. After those national games are over, the odds are clear that PSG will win, just because Monaco managed to win some games they shouldn't, doesn't mean they will do that again.
You are right, the situation can change if players suffer injuries while playing for their national team. We really have to pay attention to these factors, because they can be a good reference for us in choosing bets.
So indeed, for now we have to be patient if we want to bet on any matches including this one match. Because there are many possibilities, although on paper PSG are currently favorites in next match against Monaco, but if many key players are unavailable due to injury it will have an impact on their performance.

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November 17, 2023, 08:14:07 PM
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Yes, Enrique's current task is very difficult, he must be able to try to get 2 titles in League 1 and the Champions League, even though it is very impossible to lift the Champions League trophy, but at least Enrique is given the responsibility to be able to give his best and the most important thing is actually to remain in first place in League 1 until the end of the season.
But the current situation is a bit difficult, under pressure from the two clubs Nice and Monaco, while in the upcoming match PSG will have to face their rivals.
There are no big expectations, it's just that fans want PSG to be more consistent or draw matches better.
What do we have for Luis Enrique and PSG other than showering support for them to boost their performance. Luis Enrique is under pressure I think, he has to do more to impress the board and the supporters this season. Winning the Ligue One might seems easy for PSG but when it comes to other major titles, they're absolutely dormant and settle for lesser results than expected. PSG conceded 4 goals against Newcastle United in UEFA Champions League in the first leg, now they will host Newcastle at Parc des Princes stadium, if PSG fail to do a comeback against such an average team, it means they're not yet ready to prepare for the big games.

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November 17, 2023, 08:30:12 PM
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Yes, Enrique's current task is very difficult, he must be able to try to get 2 titles in League 1 and the Champions League, even though it is very impossible to lift the Champions League trophy, but at least Enrique is given the responsibility to be able to give his best and the most important thing is actually to remain in first place in League 1 until the end of the season.
But the current situation is a bit difficult, under pressure from the two clubs Nice and Monaco, while in the upcoming match PSG will have to face their rivals.
There are no big expectations, it's just that fans want PSG to be more consistent or draw matches better.
Luis Henrique have pressure must winning UEFA Champion League regarding domestic league tittle its not enough for PSG, all manager sacked from his position before after failure bring PSG winning Champion League tittle although many of them success winning domestic league. I don't sure if PSG loss compete in Champion League, Luis Henrique position is not secure yet and easily for sacking from his position although PSG must pay fees compensation. Likely, winning domestic league tittle its not really special achievement for PSG fans and they have huge expected for winning Champion League in the first time, spent much money every season but PSG can't talk more in Champion League with the most fantastic result achievement lead to final stage only last several season before beating by Bayern Munich.

Left two matches in group stage and PSG position still not secure yet, will in this season another bad record for PSG failed lead to knock out round?

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November 17, 2023, 09:35:54 PM
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There is enough time to calculate how that game will go, we do not have to rush into it, there are national teams and we should see how players do at their national team, and some injuries or not etc etc, we do not even know if players will be too tired and they need to get better.

I think with all of that in mind, I believe that we are going to end up with a situation that is going to be pretty difficult to handle, it is not going to be all that easy and we need to remember that we can't make it change all that much, we need to make sure that everything stays the same as much as possible, that should be the most important thing.

I understand that we are not going to end up with a situation that has to be. After those national games are over, the odds are clear that PSG will win, just because Monaco managed to win some games they shouldn't, doesn't mean they will do that again.
The game between PSG and Monaco after the international break is a decided one with regard to the quality of players in PSG. Although the international break can cause a lot of after effect on a club, effects that are unpredictable like in the case of Camavinga who got injured during his training session, what if a player gets injured during national assignment? Well, the team and coach would only have to profer a good replacement and make the with the players he has available.

 Tiredness and injury are most likely to occur. We can't task a player to be careful while playing, no one knows how or when it's happen, it's just an effect of the break. So after every break, the squad will be cross checked, there'd be some subtractions and additions as regards the player's conditions and then prepare for the next game, Monaco has been narrowly winning their recent games but I doubt they stand a victory chance against PSG. PSG has the quality of players needed and I believe there'd be extra eagerness to deliver victory.

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November 17, 2023, 09:39:02 PM
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You are right, the situation can change if players suffer injuries while playing for their national team. We really have to pay attention to these factors, because they can be a good reference for us in choosing bets.
So indeed, for now we have to be patient if we want to bet on any matches including this one match. Because there are many possibilities, although on paper PSG are currently favorites in next match against Monaco, but if many key players are unavailable due to injury it will have an impact on their performance.
It is not wrong if we want to pay attention to this all this time, because the key players on each team are very important for the team's performance and the level of consistency of the team itself in each match. So far, neither Monaco nor PSG have played so badly in their matches, so you need to pay special attention when you want to bet even though their match takes place at PSG's home ground. However, that doesn't mean that Monaco can't win this match because Monaco is also doing very well this season in Ligue1.

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November 17, 2023, 09:59:08 PM
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The game between PSG and Monaco after the international break is a decided one with regard to the quality of players in PSG. Although the international break can cause a lot of after effect on a club, effects that are unpredictable like in the case of Camavinga who got injured during his training session, what if a player gets injured during national assignment? Well, the team and coach would only have to profer a good replacement and make the with the players he has available.

 Tiredness and injury are most likely to occur. We can't task a player to be careful while playing, no one knows how or when it's happen, it's just an effect of the break. So after every break, the squad will be cross checked, there'd be some subtractions and additions as regards the player's conditions and then prepare for the next game, Monaco has been narrowly winning their recent games but I doubt they stand a victory chance against PSG. PSG has the quality of players needed and I believe there'd be extra eagerness to deliver victory.
In my opinion, this match will have a big meaning for both teams in determining their performance this season. Where if PSG wins this match of course they already have a smooth path to establishing themselves as potential champions this season. So for Monaco, of course their hopes are quite small in this match because they have to visit PSG headquarters in week 13 of this season. For PSG they have so far returned to their best form and maybe this match will be one of the matches to confirm the strength they have this season.

PSG plays in front of their own supporters when they face Monaco, of course Mbappe et al will get extraordinary support to get 3 points in this match. On the other hand, Monaco has several players injured in next week match which will certainly be very detrimental for them when they face PSG. I think PSG is in very favorable conditions to win this match.

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November 17, 2023, 10:20:39 PM
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It is not wrong if we want to pay attention to this all this time, because the key players on each team are very important for the team's performance and the level of consistency of the team itself in each match. So far, neither Monaco nor PSG have played so badly in their matches, so you need to pay special attention when you want to bet even though their match takes place at PSG's home ground. However, that doesn't mean that Monaco can't win this match because Monaco is also doing very well this season in Ligue1.
PSG has obviously gotten their key players intact and ready for this match, although their line up isn't out, but it's most likely they are going to have their key players featured, mbappe is a key player for PSG and it's almost certain they he will play except for injury or red card which he currently has none.

Monaco is a team who can't be considered poor with their performance and are definitely not going to make it easy for PSG if they must win, Monaco started off the season so well and ever since have performed any less they have been really brilliant just like PSG has done so far as well this season, so I expect an interesting match between both teams an for now can't really say wou will be taking home three points or maybe they would both share the points equally.

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November 17, 2023, 10:33:34 PM
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PSG has obviously gotten their key players intact and ready for this match, although their line up isn't out, but it's most likely they are going to have their key players featured, mbappe is a key player for PSG and it's almost certain they he will play except for injury or red card which he currently has none.

Monaco is a team who can't be considered poor with their performance and are definitely not going to make it easy for PSG if they must win, Monaco started off the season so well and ever since have performed any less they have been really brilliant just like PSG has done so far as well this season, so I expect an interesting match between both teams an for now can't really say wou will be taking home three points or maybe they would both share the points equally.
PSG will certainly have a perfect squad in the match against Monaco because this match is not an easy match for them to win. Luis Enrique will of course not make rotations which could have fatal consequences for the final result of this match, of course he will play Mbappe in this match. PSG wants to widen the points gap with the teams below them in next week match and they must be able to win this match to increase the motivation of their players to appear confident for the upcoming match. PSG have two tough matches for them next week where Luis Enrique's men will face Monaco and also Newcastle United in the Champions League.

Therefore, they to expected a victory from Monaco so they can be consistent when they face Newcastle United. The best scenario for the match against Monaco is to field their core players and if they are able to score goals faster maybe Luis Enrique can withdraw some of the core players to be able to maintain their energy when facing Newcatle in the Champions League. So these two matches will be quite crucial for them and I hope no PSG players will be injured when they face Monaco

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