French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[arimamib]

I respect Monaco, but playing against PSG at home should not end in a head-to-head match, also not almost like it. I think that PSG will have plenty more chances than Monaco and most likely it will be Mbappe who decides the game. Every opponent from the Ligue 1 needs some luck and one of their best days of the year to win something in Paris. Since PSG players are fully aware of the importance of the next few weeks, it would be unexpected if they now show some signs of bad concentration.

PSG have a much stronger squad and a better recent record. Mbappe is in excellent form and is likely to be the key player for PSG. Monaco will need to have a perfect day to have any chance of winning this match. PSG has won their last five matches against Monaco. PSG is currently in first place in Ligue 1, 15 points ahead of Monaco. Monaco is in 6th place, 16 points behind PSG.

Lol, what are you talking about, arimamib. Would you mind reviewing the Ligue 1 standings one more time?
Between PSG and Monaco there is only a gap of 3 points so far in 12 matches. Monaco is in 3rd position while PSG is at the top. Monaco will certainly have to have a good day to win the match against PSG, but it is not impossible.

PSG is playing at home, which is a big advantage. They have won their last 10 matches at home, scoring 30 goals and conceding only 4. Monaco has lost their last 3 matches away from home, conceding 10 goals and scoring only 1. Based on these statistics, it is clear that PSG is the clear favorite to win this match.

I'm not sure what's gotten into you that some of the data you mentioned about both teams' statistics is completely different from what's happening this season. PSG has only played 6 home games this season in Ligue 1, PSG won 4 of them while they lost 1 and drew 1. I hope you can revise all the data as soon as possible so that it is not misleading.

PSG is of course still the best this season compared to all the other teams in Ligue 1. They have scored 15 goals in their 6 home games this season "especially for Ligue 1" and they have only conceded 4 goals from that. Monaco are certainly not favorites against PSG following their unconvincing away record this season. Monaco can only win 2 of 6 away matches this season and 3 of them were draws and 1 was lost.

my bad..
I was mistaken the statistics, I didn't check the date.
I have edited it.. apologies..

[Die_empty]

There's nothing like luck on PSG side because only the best team come our infront to win. Paris Saint-Germain have everything under control, they're already the winners of the 2023/2024 Ligue One campaign trophy, there's definitely no competitive team to withstand the pressure from Les Parisiens. Luis Enrique have just discover another chance to top the table, Monaco can not win PSG on Parc des Princes soil, rather it can end up in draw ties. PSG are the best team in Ligue One interms of competitive strength and happen to be one of the successful teams in the France league.

Monaco is not a side to neglect in this game against PSG. The club is currently in the third position three points less than PSG and they have been putting up a good performance this season. PSG will have to fight hard to win this game because Monaco is also a good attacking side. The only problem with the club is the defense. The club has conceived more goals than all the clubs in the first four positions of the Ligue One table. A win against Monaco will make PSG solidify their hold on the first spot but if it goes the other way Monaco might move to the second position. But this prediction will depend on the outcome of the match between Nice and Toulouse.

[rahmad2nd]

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That is PSG biggest challenge at the moment, winning the UCL trophy will make Mbappe stay. Enrique is required to be able to realize the ambitions carried by the team, while Mbappe is still with them at the moment. But for many people, this is very difficult to achieve, considering that many great players have joined the PSG club but they have not been able to win the UCL title. Madrid will not stop before their target is achieved, Perez is a person who has many ways to realize his ambition to recruit Mbappe.

PSG won the UCL, Mbappe moved, Madrid recruited another ideal striker besides Mbappe, everything is still very open to happening in the future. I think even if PSG win the UCL this season, Mbappe will still leave the club, in another context I don't think he should go to Madrid. One more thing, I'm not sure PSG will make a loss regarding Mbappe move, however they will find a solution so that the club makes a profit from the transfer.

Actually, I'm not sure what you're saying, Mbappe doesn't seem to be staying for the UCL title with PSG. In fact, if Mbappe ends his contract, he will get a fantastic loyalty bonus. We have been discussing this since Mbappe's statement that this season will be his last. and apparently, this idea is the most realistic and relevant. If I were Enrique, I would refuse to become PSG coach if the club management was targeting the Champions League trophy.

Just imagine, with PSG's current player base, it would be something difficult for Enrique to make happen. I cannot deny that some of their newcomers are young players with potential. however, they will really need time to reach their playing level. and it has been proven that Goncalo Ramos, Kolo Muani, have not been able to show their consistency with PSG. that's why Enrique trusts Mbappe more. and if PSG are truly targeting the UCL trophy, they will bring in established players and not players who need time to develop. That's why Enrique accepted to become PSG's head coach. because PSG's current philosophy has changed. from the mega project trio MNM, now choosing to start from scratch. Even then, most of the players brought in by PSG did not involve the coach. Supposedly, if they target it, the coach plays a very important role. Well, that's something like that in my personal opinion. There is also the case with Madrid, so far Real Madrid has stated on their official website that what is being rumored is not true. but we'll see, the time will come in the next summer window.

[skarais]

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Monaco is not a side to neglect in this game against PSG. The club is currently in the third position three points less than PSG and they have been putting up a good performance this season. PSG will have to fight hard to win this game because Monaco is also a good attacking side. The only problem with the club is the defense. The club has conceived more goals than all the clubs in the first four positions of the Ligue One table. A win against Monaco will make PSG solidify their hold on the first spot but if it goes the other way Monaco might move to the second position. But this prediction will depend on the outcome of the match between Nice and Toulouse.

PSG should not underestimate Monaco even though Monaco's performance has been inconsistent in the last 3 matches. PSG has a good home record following the match against Monaco in the next few days, but once again Monaco could pose a threat to PSG if PSG's defense fails to closely guard Monaco's striker.

Aleksandr Golovin and Wissam Ben Yedder are two players who must be closely guarded in the PSG defense. Both have scored 5 goals each and, however, Takumi Minamino and Folarin Balogun should also be watched out for when they are played. Meanwhile, PSG also seems very ready to take on this match after getting 5 consecutive wins so far. They are very convincing to win, especially because PSG is playing at home.

[marcous]

There's nothing like luck on PSG side because only the best team come our infront to win. Paris Saint-Germain have everything under control, they're already the winners of the 2023/2024 Ligue One campaign trophy, there's definitely no competitive team to withstand the pressure from Les Parisiens. Luis Enrique have just discover another chance to top the table, Monaco can not win PSG on Parc des Princes soil, rather it can end up in draw ties. PSG are the best team in Ligue One interms of competitive strength and happen to be one of the successful teams in the France league.

Monaco is not a side to neglect in this game against PSG. The club is currently in the third position three points less than PSG and they have been putting up a good performance this season. PSG will have to fight hard to win this game because Monaco is also a good attacking side. The only problem with the club is the defense. The club has conceived more goals than all the clubs in the first four positions of the Ligue One table. A win against Monaco will make PSG solidify their hold on the first spot but if it goes the other way Monaco might move to the second position. But this prediction will depend on the outcome of the match between Nice and Toulouse.

In theory we can assume that PSG will achieve victory in the opening match of Week 13, Luis Enrique has all the attributes needed to secure the three points in front of their own supporters. Of course PSG cannot afford to lose points in the next match, apart from confirming their position at the top of the Ligue 1 standings, this victory will be a good start to competing again in the UCL against Newcastle.

Nice will face Toulouse, I assume Nice will be able to pick up perfect points too. I think if PSG and Monaco share points, then Nice will be at an advantage here. I hope that this fierce competition can continue to consistently occur in the top four of the standings, so that it will be interesting for us to wait for the matches they play.

Mbappe leads the list of top scorers in Ligue 1 by scoring 13 goals, overall in all competitions Mbappe has scored 15 goals in the 15 matches he has played. His goal productivity really helps PSG, I can't imagine what PSG situation would be like if Mbappe really moved.

[jaberwock]

PSG cannot dominate the league like it used to. The 2nd and 3rd teams follow PSG very closely. As you said, PSG plays a game based on one man and this causes them to have difficulties in some matches.

I think it is possible to stop PSG in League 1. With the point difference so close, if PSG suffers a defeat, it may not be able to recover as quickly as it did in the past. When I watch PSG matches, I cannot see that there is a very good harmony in the team. There are very good players individually, but I don't think they are that good as a team.

I think they can, in fact I believe that they can dominate even better, why? Because they played quite amazingly last year with Messi and Neymar, but they were having a lot of missing games and just rely on stars. This summer if you check their transfers you will realize that they got plenty of amazing players, which means that if they remove Mbappe from this team, they would still play better than any other team.

I believe that we are going to end up with a greater return and we are going to see them do better over course of some time, if Mbappe leaves this summer, you will see that next season they are going to be a lot better, because they will not have to rely on Mbappe or play to him all the time and instead they are going to end up playing like a team all together. I hope that they could make sure that they are doing well enough, and that should  be important for them to begin with. I believe that we are going to see them dominate for long time to come.

[Leviathan.007]

Right now PSG is just dominating and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they are going to stay on top of the table for a long period of time. I actually don't think that they will drop from the first position honestly. But I think we should not underestimate the other teams in the Ligue 1 competition. Nice is showing good performance, Monaco is also on their tail. So the competition is not already over. But PSG is certainly the best team in the league and right now they are performing like one as well.

I won't say already that no team in the Ligue One is gonna be able to stop them. But it is going to be a hard job for the other teams for sure.

Other clubs such as Nice and Monaco are trying to take over first place but PSG is not a club that will easily give up because PSG has quality and experienced players even though it is difficult for PSG to win the title in the Champions League but PSG still performs well in the domestic league and try to dominate the title in league 1.
I don't see Lens chasing PSG again like last season because Lens is already quite a lot of points behind PSG, so I think this competition only exists in Monaco, Nice and PSG sees this competition like I saw the competition in the 2016/2017 season where these three clubs are trying scrambled to win the trophy and as a result Monaco managed to win it and PSG was in second place and Nice was in 3rd place, this season will be a very interesting season to see these 3 clubs competing again and we'll see which club manages to occupy first place because currently they only have a small difference in points.

Nice will be the team that threatens PSG this season. They have an unbeaten record this season and are only 1 point behind PSG. Nice has been an average team in Ligue 1 for many years. But who would have thought that Nice, under the hands of 34-year-old coach Francesco Farioli, would play so well. Just one mistake from PSG will help Nice rise to the top of the rankings. And have a chance to win this season. But in the end, Nice and Monaco cannot be compared with defending French champion PSG. They have abundant finances and outstanding stars. Then, the trophy also belonged to them. It is difficult for any team to be brave enough to defeat them.

I don't think that Nice can even cause any problems for PSG because we know Nice is not a team at the same level as PSG and these two teams are obviously got a much different amount of budget. In fact, Nice didn't buy superstar players as PSG did or they don't have a famous coach like Enrique in their team and this is a good reason for us to say Nice can only race with PSG but at the end of this season, again, PSG is going to win the French League title and Nice can try for the second place of the table.

[shogun47]

I don't think that Nice can even cause any problems for PSG because we know Nice is not a team at the same level as PSG and these two teams are obviously got a much different amount of budget. In fact, Nice didn't buy superstar players as PSG did or they don't have a famous coach like Enrique in their team and this is a good reason for us to say Nice can only race with PSG but at the end of this season, again, PSG is going to win the French League title and Nice can try for the second place of the table.

I see it like you @Leviathan.007. Nice looks great in the standings now because they didn't lose a game and have all these draws and eagerly collected point after point, but with so many draws they would not have a chance to challenge PSG. But Nice can't step up their game, they are already playing at their maximum, which is great for them as a small club, but to challenge PSG they would have to have half the number of those draws maximum and win more games and that is too much for them.

[QueenVera]

He scored three goals in the match against Gibraltar. Maybe Mbappe could have scored more, but one of the goals he scored was really worth all the goals. However, how many more goals could they have scored in that match? It was a record. France's most different victory was the match they conceded the most in the Gibraltar match.

It will be remembered for years. The result of this match will remain. Mbappe's contract will expire, but I think the club will do their best to keep him as he is the most successful player who has dominated PSG.

According to many rumors, it is thought that he will go to Real Madrid. If they offer a very high price, I may leave the team. If he does not suffer any injuries this season, there will be no loss in his performance and he will continue to score goals in the champion league and the league. It's a critical point in the Champions League group and I think the exit ticket is in Mbappe's hands, depending on how he plays and his contribution.

Kylian had already scored 2 in the crazy match between Gibraltar but saved up his best for the last which he struck up to get his hat trick. The hat trick took him to 300 career goal mark at 24, he still has lot of years on his side to score as many as possible. Mbappe has proven to be a very prolific striker and PAG would try their best to keep him but I think he’s keen on leaving for some better challenges

 Real Madrid will be a good option for the youngster and he’ll probably beat the record with a team like Real Madrid, he's fast, a good finisher and is a versatile player that can be used as both striker and winger for Realmadrid and since he's a top player adapting into Realmadrid's style of play won't be difficult for him.

[loveurself420]

I don't think that Nice can even cause any problems for PSG because we know Nice is not a team at the same level as PSG and these two teams are obviously got a much different amount of budget. In fact, Nice didn't buy superstar players as PSG did or they don't have a famous coach like Enrique in their team and this is a good reason for us to say Nice can only race with PSG but at the end of this season, again, PSG is going to win the French League title and Nice can try for the second place of the table.

Totally agree with what you're saying, PSG is like a football powerhouse with a bigger budget getting all those superstar players and a famous coach, surely PSG is going to win the league again and again. Nice might find it hard to compete at that level i mean Nice has no chance to challenge PSG.  but it's interesting that it's gunning for that second spot.

[Docnaster]

I don't think that Nice can even cause any problems for PSG because we know Nice is not a team at the same level as PSG and these two teams are obviously got a much different amount of budget. In fact, Nice didn't buy superstar players as PSG did or they don't have a famous coach like Enrique in their team and this is a good reason for us to say Nice can only race with PSG but at the end of this season, again, PSG is going to win the French League title and Nice can try for the second place of the table.

Totally agree with what you're saying, PSG is like a football powerhouse with a bigger budget getting all those superstar players and a famous coach, surely PSG is going to win the league again and again. Nice might find it hard to compete at that level i mean Nice has no chance to challenge PSG.  but it's interesting that it's gunning for that second spot.

Nice is currently one of the most consistent teams in the French Ligue 1 title but unfortunately for them, they're sharing the same league with Paris Saint Germaine who are absolutely better than Nice when it comes to quality of players and general performance and that's why many are of the opinion that Nice doesn't stand a chance to win the league title ahead PSG. Paris Saint Germaine I think have found the best playing pattern that'll help bring out the best from the entire squad.

[Leviathan.007]

Didier Deschamps the coach of France's national team accnoued good news about the player of PSG, Warren Emery.
France had an amazing performance against Gibraltar and they won the game with a 14-0 result but the sad thing in this game was about Emery.
In the 16th minute of the game, Emery got injured hard and he couldn't continue the match and we were thinking he was going to be out for a long time but Deschamps hoped this player would return soon.



https://www.sport1.de/news/internationaler-fussball/2023/11/deschamps-kein-bruch-bei-zaire-emery

[Swordsoffreedom]

Kylian Mbappe's hat trick in the match against Gibraltar confirmed his record of 300 career goals and this is a big achievement for a young player for the French national team. He is not only productive for the club but also for his country and of course PSG is happy that this player can continue to score goals in any competition. It seems that everything went well during the international break without any injuries and as an important player at PSG, Kylian Mbappe must be back in fit condition ahead of the crucial matches in the Ligue 1 or Champions League competitions later. Keeping Kylian Mbappe for longer is PSG's obligation and I think they will try to do that even though there are many rumors that their mainstay player will leave after his contract ends.

Luis Enrique will make plans to accumulate good scores for PSG because he's the headcoach. I'll urged PSG president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi to do everything within his reach to ensure Kylian Mbappe remain in Parc des Princes stadium this summer, because if he leaves, we will witnessed much tense performance of PSG in league games. I've no doubts what so ever because I'm confident Kylian Mbappe will reach milestone of goals just like Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi. The Frenchman have worked on himself to become the branded version of football and he's definitely heading to glory in his path for awards.

If Mbappe only plays at PSG, then there is no big achievement for Mbappe. Because after all, a player will be very admired when playing with many trophies and not just great in the local league or domestic league. Although indeed, having many goals is also a great achievement but ya, the achievement is only limited to the acquisition of individual goals. Unlike Ronaldo and Messi who managed to get a lot of trophies with the team and then they became big. As for Mbappe, even so far Mbappe does not have a Champion League trophy and it is a pity that a player as great as Mbappe does not have achievements in the Champion League of Europe's most prestigious competition.

If Mbappé does decide to stay in PSG I’m done. This guy is really looking for money nothing else. That is if he stays in PSG. At this point, I don't think Real Madrid should actually be interested in him, to be honest. Real Madrid really wanted him and Real Madrid also offered 200 million. But he only used the name of Real Madrid to get more money out of PSG. He was never coming to Real Madrid. So now Real Madrid should say that if you want to play in Real Madrid, you as any other player. Now you are not a priority for Real Madrid because now you want to play with Vini Junior and Jude Bellingham. This could be his team, but now it is their team. If he wants to join Real Madrid on a regular wage, he can join. Otherwise, he can keep playing in PSG. Really, that’s what Real Madrid should tell him.

[ancafe]

I also see what you say is quite clearly experienced by Olympic Lyon, because even though they still have time to recover with new players next winter, I am also not very sure that Olympic Lyon will be able to save themselves from being relegated at the end of this season. However, if for example Olympic Lyon is able to do that by implementing several changes after winter, I think that is a miracle that has come to Olympic Lyon. Because just being in the top fifteen will not be easy for Olympic Lyon this season after being so far behind the other teams.

Getting out of the relegation zone is probably achievable for Lyon because they are not actually a bad team and it shouldn't be that difficult for them. This season there are several things that are making it difficult for Lyon to play better in collecting points and the coach must immediately carry out an evaluation in the next match. Buying several players in the next transfer market might be a solution because they are quite weak in terms of defense and so far defenders are still a big problem for them.

Lyon has not been a weak team in the past few seasons and usually they can finish the season in a mid-table position. This season has only been running for a few matches and although there are differences compared to the previous season. I believe Lyon will be able to escape relegation in the second half of the season and that is a much more realistic expectation compared to finishing in the top five or seven in the standings like the previous season.

[Republikcoin.com]

If Mbappé does decide to stay in PSG I’m done. This guy is really looking for money nothing else. That is if he stays in PSG. At this point, I don't think Real Madrid should actually be interested in him, to be honest. Real Madrid really wanted him and Real Madrid also offered 200 million. But he only used the name of Real Madrid to get more money out of PSG. He was never coming to Real Madrid. So now Real Madrid should say that if you want to play in Real Madrid, you as any other player. Now you are not a priority for Real Madrid because now you want to play with Vini Junior and Jude Bellingham. This could be his team, but now it is their team. If he wants to join Real Madrid on a regular wage, he can join. Otherwise, he can keep playing in PSG. Really, that’s what Real Madrid should tell him.

It is very unfortunate if a player chooses money over his career because Mbappé has great potential to become the best player in the world because he is still very young and his individual quality is also above average.

If he remains at PSG, it is certain that he will not develop in the near future, this has been proven since the previous few seasons because this team does not have enough strength to compete for the title on the European stage so players like Mbappé will not be considered. even though he played well in Ligue 1 and especially this season PSG's performance has declined so much that it is very difficult for Mbappé to improve the team's performance.

Real Madrid is indeed quite ambitious to be able to bring in Mbappé, but as we know, the Real Madrid team will not really raise a player like PSG did with Mbappé (privileged) because the Real Madrid team is much bigger than anything, but Mbappé will get many benefits. if he is willing to join the Real Madrid team for the future of his career.

[Strongkored]

I don't think that Nice can even cause any problems for PSG because we know Nice is not a team at the same level as PSG and these two teams are obviously got a much different amount of budget. In fact, Nice didn't buy superstar players as PSG did or they don't have a famous coach like Enrique in their team and this is a good reason for us to say Nice can only race with PSG but at the end of this season, again, PSG is going to win the French League title and Nice can try for the second place of the table.

I can say that I agree with you that in the end this will return to the title for PSG, not only because of the club's ability to buy players and everything but also slowly Nice will start to have difficulty maintaining its performance even though currently it is still an unbeaten team but slowly and Surely Nice will eventually find a difficult match in which they will suffer defeat.
Nice's goal statistics cannot be said to be good as a team that can be in second place in the standings, their number of goals is far behind Monaco, it's just that Nice is better at maintaining their defense so not many teams can score goals against them, but it's difficult for them to score goals may become an obstacle in the future unless they intend to buy a reliable striker who can provide lots of goals for Nice.

[rendravolt]

Didier Deschamps the coach of France's national team accnoued good news about the player of PSG, Warren Emery.
France had an amazing performance against Gibraltar and they won the game with a 14-0 result but the sad thing in this game was about Emery.
In the 16th minute of the game, Emery got injured hard and he couldn't continue the match and we were thinking he was going to be out for a long time but Deschamps hoped this player would return soon.



https://www.sport1.de/news/internationaler-fussball/2023/11/deschamps-kein-bruch-bei-zaire-emery

Gosh, he is a young PSG player who is shining at the moment and his performance so far with PSG has been truly impressive. He is still very young and is a starter for Luis Enrique and because of his contribution to PSG through goals and assists, he was called up by the French national team to play in the qualifying match for Euro 2024. But unfortunately he also had bad luck with this injury and I think PSG has now lost an important player ahead of this week's crucial match. If we look at the look on his face, he seems to be experiencing discomfort due to this injury and he will definitely miss the next few matches.

[Docnaster]

Didier Deschamps the coach of France's national team accnoued good news about the player of PSG, Warren Emery.
France had an amazing performance against Gibraltar and they won the game with a 14-0 result but the sad thing in this game was about Emery.
In the 16th minute of the game, Emery got injured hard and he couldn't continue the match and we were thinking he was going to be out for a long time but Deschamps hoped this player would return soon.



https://www.sport1.de/news/internationaler-fussball/2023/11/deschamps-kein-bruch-bei-zaire-emery

Gosh, he is a young PSG player who is shining at the moment and his performance so far with PSG has been truly impressive. He is still very young and is a starter for Luis Enrique and because of his contribution to PSG through goals and assists, he was called up by the French national team to play in the qualifying match for Euro 2024. But unfortunately he also had bad luck with this injury and I think PSG has now lost an important player ahead of this week's crucial match. If we look at the look on his face, he seems to be experiencing discomfort due to this injury and he will definitely miss the next few matches.

The injury to Zaire Emery will definitely be a big blow to Paris Saint Germaine manager Luis Enrique and that's because of how influential the young lad has been to the team's success since the start of the season.
I don't how long the young star is gonna be sidelined with the injury but I know the manager will be hoping his injury isn't gonna be a serious one

[len01]

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The injury to Zaire Emery will definitely be a big blow to Paris Saint Germaine manager Luis Enrique and that's because of how influential the young lad has been to the team's success since the start of the season.
I don't how long the young star is gonna be sidelined with the injury but I know the manager will be hoping his injury isn't gonna be a serious one

of course, this will be a heavy blow for Enrique, while this young player is very reliable in the central midfield on one side Enrique, although he praised this player, this injury has created confusion for the PSG coach, who has to look for a replacement for Zaire Emery, while currently there are no players in the reserves who have talent like Zaire Emery and looking at this source it seems like he has a slightly serious injury so it is possible that in the upcoming match Zaire Emery will be absent while PSG will have to play Monaco, one of PSG rivals and this will worry the fans, PSG performance will certainly decline slightly.

this is what I dont like when during an international break a player has to defend his country but comes back in a very bad condition and this injury is a loss that PSG must accept at this time and Enrique this time will have a tough task to be able to solve this problem.

[Weawant]

Monaco is not a side to neglect in this game against PSG. The club is currently in the third position three points less than PSG and they have been putting up a good performance this season. PSG will have to fight hard to win this game because Monaco is also a good attacking side. The only problem with the club is the defense. The club has conceived more goals than all the clubs in the first four positions of the Ligue One table. A win against Monaco will make PSG solidify their hold on the first spot but if it goes the other way Monaco might move to the second position. But this prediction will depend on the outcome of the match between Nice and Toulouse.

I have always said it that the biggest mistake PSG will ever make in this game against Monaco will be to underestimate them as that will be detrimental on them before the match ends, because Monaco will stop at nothing to utilize every chance they have to continually stay at the top of the table.

PSG looking tough than them doesn't guarantee they would win but then they have more chances than their opponent does. They have the home advantage and since this season, they have really been good with their performance at home so I expect more from them at home even if I know their opponent isn't weak at all and by the stats according to H2H, Monaco has won PSG quite a good number of time so it's definitely not going to be easy on them.