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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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June 22, 2023, 03:06:46 PM
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Ilkay Gundogan really seems to be leaving Manchester City this season. Man City has actually tried to defend the captain. But it seems Ilkay Gundogan wants to get a new challenge in another league. And Gundogan's goal is now clearer, namely to Laliga and more precisely based on the news I read that Gundogan seems to have agreed to leave Man City and will join Barcelona. And Gundogan seems to have met Xavi (Barcelona coach) first. And have made a deal. I think Barcelona were very lucky because they got Ilkay Gundogan. Barcelona already has many great players and with the addition of Gundogan, Barcelona will be even stronger. I hope Man City can find a replacement for Gundogan with other great players. And currently Man City itself is also hunting for many great players. and I believe Man City can always get another great player.

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Ilkay Gundogan seems want to try new challenge with difference league, indeed Manchester City tries defend him and rumor with Arsenal interested with him but its not enough to make Ilkay Gundogan keep stay in Primer League for next season. But I don't believe with Gundogan accepted Barcelona offering because he leave Manchester City with potential winning Champion League next season and priority Barcelona not compete last two season in Champion League.

Manchester City have found replacement for Gundogan position, Kovacic have reached agreement for joining with Manchester City and looks he has more chance winning many tittle next season by joining City than stay with Chelsea.

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June 22, 2023, 03:36:10 PM
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Darwin Nunez was compared to Haaland. And while not scoring as many goals as Haaland, I think Darwin Nunez has the potential. He is not a worse player than Haaland. Since Liverpool's entire team was unstable. So we don't get a better performance than Darwin Nunez. If the Liverpool coach is able to stabilize the squad next season, we will probably see more goals from Darwin Nunez.
It sounds non sense to compare nunez with haaland. People said that so many times nunez has potential and i have heard that hundreds of times but the fact that if nunez is far compared with haaland.
Nunez was playing as a winger and i can accept such reason why nunez has been making onl 9 goals in total previous season.

https://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-premier-league-2022-2023/

You can see that if haaland has been creating a new record on its first season in EPL while nunez was not getting good achievement last season.
Nunez may not even be remotely close to Haaland, but I agree that the team plays a big role in there. If Nunez played for City and Haaland played for Liverpool, I think we would see Haaland score less and Nunez score more. Would Haaland still score more than Nunez? Maybe, maybe not.

But, we know that he would score less than he scored at City, that's the point. This is why we need to wait and see how Nunez does next season and hope that Liverpool does better. Because they did badly this year, the whole team was abd, from goalkeeper to defenders to midfield to striker. If liverpool does better next season, then we are going to see Nunez score a lot more as well, he is definitely better than he looked this season, it was just an all around bad one for the whole team.

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June 22, 2023, 03:36:45 PM
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Haaland has got a stable squad. And got an experienced coach. Every Manchester City player is very helpful. The bond between the players is very good. And so Haaland has no problem adapting to this team. He has been able to adapt easily to City's players and has consistently put in good performances. On the other hand, Liverpool's scenario is completely opposite. The performance of this team was very poor in the last season. And for a long time, they were not even in the top 10 of the points table. Nunez could not adapt to this group due to the unstable condition of the whole team. And so I won't blame Nunez for his poor performance this season.
Haaland is a young player who has very good talent and is easy to adapt to other players who have successfully performed well in the Premier League and Champions League.
I think Manchester city is very lucky to be able to fight for the best players like Haaland and I have a prediction that after Haaland's success at Manchester city this will make Haaland more comfortable and always extend his contract with Manchester city.

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June 22, 2023, 03:38:49 PM
Last edit: June 22, 2023, 03:51:50 PM by shinratensei_
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As a scorer, Haaland is head and shoulders above everyone else now plus City are dominating and Liverpool had a very bad season so I don't think it makes sense to compare them. If next season Liverpool is normal, then perhaps Nunez will even compete with Haaland for the top 1, because despite the fantastic start and many records, Haaland scored only 6 goals more than Kane, who plays for the miserable Tottenham.
Nunez was always playing in left wing now while haaland was fully focused as a central striker of club. Comparing how many goals are being made by both is actually a pointless comparison. I hope liverpool can come back stronger next season. It's so stupid if liverpool will have same start again as the previous season when the team was facing so many difficulties in winning the game. I just wanna see what's the outcome from mcallister.
I remember the same hype when liverpool bought nunez and gakpo but these players were disappointing so many fans with their horrible performance last season.
I think that klopp will not try to repeat the same mistake again.

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June 22, 2023, 03:41:21 PM
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Haaland is a young player who has very good talent and is easy to adapt to other players who have successfully performed well in the Premier League and Champions League.
I think Manchester city is very lucky to be able to fight for the best players like Haaland and I have a prediction that after Haaland's success at Manchester city this will make Haaland more comfortable and always extend his contract with Manchester city.
I'm not sure Haaland will continue at Man City. he is a young player, with great achievements and performances. Of course, getting a lot of experience in some big teams is also good for Haaland. especially to try some leagues in Europe.
Ronaldo and Messi, who were the best players of their time, also tried several clubs in their careers. Haaland still has a lot of potentials to break several records that have been made by other top world players.

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June 22, 2023, 03:42:58 PM
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As a scorer, Haaland is head and shoulders above everyone else now plus City are dominating and Liverpool had a very bad season so I don't think it makes sense to compare them. If next season Liverpool is normal, then perhaps Nunez will even compete with Haaland for the top 1, because despite the fantastic start and many records, Haaland scored only 6 goals more than Kane, who plays for the miserable Tottenham.
Yes, I think everyone already knows about Haaland and the quality of play he has. Nunez is a potential player for Liverpool but indeed these two players cannot be compared, and if indeed compared, Haland's performance is far above Nunez as you say. I think the end of the Premier League last season was enough to prove that Manchester City can always win full points compared to Liverpool, who appeared inconsistent and could be said to be bad. Haaland always has an important role as a goal machine in every match for Manchester City, who always dominates the win. Nunez is a potential player who has sharp performances, but he can't get anything with Liverpool, maybe because Liverpool is not the club that suits him so his performances seem inconsistent and indirectly it seems that he is having difficulty adapting to his new environment.
Yes, comparing these two players cannot be done, and that applies not only to these two players, but to all players. But if you have to compare then I have to see the position of these two players swapped, I mean what can Erling Haaland do if he is at Liverpool in a downturn like this season, and also what Nunez can do if he is at Manchester City who is playing very solidly , now maybe I will be able to compare the two because they are in the same position, but that is impossible to do right?

But on the other hand, I can't deny that Nunez disappointed many people who had high expectations for him. I'm not going to try to blame him because maybe that happened because of Liverpool's inconsistent condition this season.

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June 22, 2023, 03:49:14 PM
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I can't understand why Arsenal's plans have to be tripped up by other teams if Declan Rice later transfers to Manchester City. However, the competition for Declan Rice has only just begun and now it remains only for the player to decide which club to play for next season.

With Mudryk it was the fee being little over the top for Arsenal so they left the race for him. In Rice's race, the most  crucial thing was Gundogan's decision to stay or leave and now that he is reported to be leaving, City is joining the race as *expected*. Rice is open to join any club so it is going to be bidding war between the clubs interested in him which are Arsenal and Man City as of now. But we all know how deep City's pockets are so if they are really after this player then Arsenal has lost the Rice race.

Sometimes direct talks with coach of the interested teams can also sway things towards the club so both clubs might try to do that as well. For Arsenal I think they might leave the race if at any point they feel like the fee West Ham are asking is not actually going for.
Indeed, the news of Gundogan's departure to Barcelona was so sudden that Manchester City began to take swift steps to make an offer to Declan Rice. But before Gundogan left, Manchester City had already gotten Kovacic, who was likely to become his replacement. But if you talk about Pep Guardiola's thoughts, of course he will do everything as long as the options are open and therefore it seems that Manchester City is finally following Arsenal's steps to be able to get Declan Rice.

It's true that talks with the team's coach could be an added value and as far as I know Declan Rice is closer to Pep Guardiola. Well, it seems that this transfer is really tough for Arsenal and Mikel Arteta will once again have to let go of his previous catch if West Ham finally chooses Manchester city's offer.
Man City have agreed to sign Kovacic recently and there are talks about signing Rice too. Personally, I'm not sure why they need Rice because of Pep anything can happen. If City really wants him, then they should buy him. From my understanding, they don't need Rice at the moment since they already have Rodri who is an excellent defensive midfielder. It doesn't make sense to spend on him big money just for a backup player. Though, Rice could be a good backup option in case both Rodri and Kovacic get injured. Regardless, playing for City is a dream for any player.

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June 22, 2023, 03:50:25 PM
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Nunez was always playing in left wing now while haaland fully focused as a central stiker of club. Comparing how many goals being made by both is actually a pointless comparison. I hope liverpool can comeback stronger next season. It's so stupid if liverpool will have same start like previous season where the team was facing so many difficulties in winning the game. I just wanna see what's the outcome from mcallister.
I remember the same hype when liverpool bought nunez and gakpo but these players were disappointing so many fans with their horrible performance last season.
I think that klopp will not try to repeat the same mistake again.
Liverpool doesn't appear to in outstanding shape and you expect the players to perform at their best? Of course not, with the likes of Trent Alexander Arnold, Mohammed Salah, the overhyped Darwin Nunez, and the newly signed players, most Liverpool players underperformed this season. Jurgen Klopp will identify his team's shortcomings and work to strengthen them in preparation for the upcoming season's struggle against City. Darwin Nunez is nowhere near Erling Haaland in terms of goal scoring and the potential qualities he possesses on the field; he's such a superb player who knows how to position himself in front of goal, despite missing numerous scoring opportunities.

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June 22, 2023, 03:52:23 PM
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Haaland is a young player who has very good talent and is easy to adapt to other players who have successfully performed well in the Premier League and Champions League.
I think Manchester city is very lucky to be able to fight for the best players like Haaland and I have a prediction that after Haaland's success at Manchester city this will make Haaland more comfortable and always extend his contract with Manchester city.
I'm not sure Haaland will continue at Man City. he is a young player, with great achievements and performances. Of course, getting a lot of experience in some big teams is also good for Haaland. especially to try some leagues in Europe.
Ronaldo and Messi, who were the best players of their time, also tried several clubs in their careers. Haaland still has a lot of potentials to break several records that have been made by other top world players.
Ronaldo followed the money while Messi was like forced out since Barca was struggling financially as a club at the time. Man City doesn't have those problems right now and have the wallet to keep him so I doubt Haaland would the club anytime soon. He's already in a great place.

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June 22, 2023, 04:07:32 PM
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The easiest way which Mauricio Pochettino can rebuild the club is buy flushing out most of the players in Chelsea squad, since we already know the players that are really useless in the team, then replacing them with new players which are really determined to play for the club. I think that's the easiest way to rebuild Chelsea back.
It's not that easy guys, we know that Chelsea is currently in a pretty bad transition period. Pochettino only needs to focus on securing Chelsea from the standings, at least getting into the top 5 first. Speaking of players, of course that has already been done and if you know the sale of these players is considered a loss sale because the price when Chelsea was brought in was almost half of the current sales value.

Ilkay Gundogan seems want to try new challenge with difference league, indeed Manchester City tries defend him and rumor with Arsenal interested with him but its not enough to make Ilkay Gundogan keep stay in Primer League for next season. But I don't believe with Gundogan accepted Barcelona offering because he leave Manchester City with potential winning Champion League next season and priority Barcelona not compete last two season in Champion League.
During 7 seasons with Manchester City, Gundogan has scored 60 goals and 40 assists which of course makes him an irreplaceable player at Manchester City. Then his decision to still go to Barcelona became a strong reason that what he achieved in the Premier League needed to be engraved in the La Liga competition as well. Barcelona's condition so far has been very supportive especially since Gundogan existence is very important in order to sharpen the attack.

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June 22, 2023, 04:11:03 PM
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@shogun47 Gundugan is definitely a City legend and whatever he decides will be respected by the City fan’s and I’m sure that he’ll be welcome back if he decides to join them in any role. Furthermore I feel that he should join Barcelona and further cement his legacy as he’s an incredible player and then after a year or two he should join the Saudi league.

He has had an amazing career and was successful with all the clubs he played for, but his role in Machester City and also all the synergy with the players there, it was so amazing that I would have liked to see him play with all of them for one more year. Such a great midfield for Manchester City and he fit in perfectly. He deserved to play two more successful seasons with the Citizens and maybe even defend the treble. They can do it, but now without Gundogan. I doubt that Barcelona will win a lot in the next season.
Good luck to Gundugan in his new club Barcelona he had a fulfilled career in Man City with 14 trophies to his credit  five Premier League titles, one UCL trophy, two FA Cup trophies, four Carabao trophies and two Community Shields he had indeed serve the club very well Man City fans will surely miss their hardworking and efficient captain, I also like his idea of trying another challenge or adventure elsewhere after winning all the competitive trophies in his former club and fortunately he got a better offer from his new club where his wealth of experience will help the young players to become a better player.

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June 22, 2023, 04:36:36 PM
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Yes, comparing these two players cannot be done, and that applies not only to these two players, but to all players. But if you have to compare then I have to see the position of these two players swapped, I mean what can Erling Haaland do if he is at Liverpool in a downturn like this season, and also what Nunez can do if he is at Manchester City who is playing very solidly , now maybe I will be able to compare the two because they are in the same position, but that is impossible to do right?

But on the other hand, I can't deny that Nunez disappointed many people who had high expectations for him. I'm not going to try to blame him because maybe that happened because of Liverpool's inconsistent condition this season.
I believe that key player injuries and inadequate player acquisitions were the most influential factors contributing to Liverpool's inconsistency this season. As a result, The Reds dropped out of the top four in the standings and failed to qualify for the next season's Champions League. Injuries to key players disrupted the team's balance, and they lacked adequate replacements. In such circumstances, Liverpool attempted to bring in backup players like Arthur from Juventus. In my opinion, their main weaknesses this season were in the midfield and forward lines. The occurrence of simultaneous player injuries left the manager with limited options and challenges in player rotation.

Perhaps this could be a valuable learning experience for Liverpool to rebuild their squad, and they must be truly astute in acquiring new players in the future. It would be futile to purchase expensive players who fail to provide significant contributions that justify their price.

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I'm not sure Haaland will continue at Man City. he is a young player, with great achievements and performances. Of course, getting a lot of experience in some big teams is also good for Haaland. especially to try some leagues in Europe.
Ronaldo and Messi, who were the best players of their time, also tried several clubs in their careers. Haaland still has a lot of potentials to break several records that have been made by other top world players.
Haaland isn't going anywhere in the next few seasons so I think he will still be at Manchester City especially after he won the treble in his first season. Haaland is the striker that Pep Guardiola needs, but if in a few seasons there is something like a conflict between Haaland and other players or something like that then he might try to join a different team.

Of course it is possible to see Haaland in another team in the next few seasons, but for now I'm sure he really feels that Manchester City is the best team for him. In my opinion, it is not the time to discuss the future of Haaland, who is just about to enter his second season in the Premier League, but something could happen in the coming seasons.

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June 22, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
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Ronaldo and Messi, who were the best players of their time, also tried several clubs in their careers. Haaland still has a lot of potentials to break several records that have been made by other top world players.
Haaland isn't going anywhere in the next few seasons so I think he will still be at Manchester City especially after he won the treble in his first season. Haaland is the striker that Pep Guardiola needs, but if in a few seasons there is something like a conflict between Haaland and other players or something like that then he might try to join a different team.

Of course it is possible to see Haaland in another team in the next few seasons, but for now I'm sure he really feels that Manchester City is the best team for him. In my opinion, it is not the time to discuss the future of Haaland, who is just about to enter his second season in the Premier League, but something could happen in the coming seasons.
It's still too early to discuss Haaland's departure from Manchester City while his contract is still very long, while Manchester City and Haaland already have a fairly high clause of 200 million euros for his release, whoever the other team will recruit him will definitely think again about that clause.

Haaland would definitely love to be at Manchester City, he is the top scorer in the Premier League, and he is also the best player this season in the Premier League, he won many trophies in one season, of course with a lot that was achieved in the first season then in the second season he will definitely be even more ambitious, especially since Pep Guardiola really needs it as a sharp striker.

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June 22, 2023, 05:15:33 PM
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@shogun47 Gundugan is definitely a City legend and whatever he decides will be respected by the City fan’s and I’m sure that he’ll be welcome back if he decides to join them in any role. Furthermore I feel that he should join Barcelona and further cement his legacy as he’s an incredible player and then after a year or two he should join the Saudi league.

He has had an amazing career and was successful with all the clubs he played for, but his role in Machester City and also all the synergy with the players there, it was so amazing that I would have liked to see him play with all of them for one more year. Such a great midfield for Manchester City and he fit in perfectly. He deserved to play two more successful seasons with the Citizens and maybe even defend the treble. They can do it, but now without Gundogan. I doubt that Barcelona will win a lot in the next season.
Good luck to Gundugan in his new club Barcelona he had a fulfilled career in Man City with 14 trophies to his credit  five Premier League titles, one UCL trophy, two FA Cup trophies, four Carabao trophies and two Community Shields he had indeed serve the club very well Man City fans will surely miss their hardworking and efficient captain, I also like his idea of trying another challenge or adventure elsewhere after winning all the competitive trophies in his former club and fortunately he got a better offer from his new club where his wealth of experience will help the young players to become a better player.

The more I think about it the more I agree with it because there is more to going to Barcelona than just playing soccer. He has a little child now and he has wife, what's better than living in sweet Barcelona with mediterranean weather and playing soccer for a great club while still earning a lot of money and trying something new that's interesting? I think these considerations also played a role and from that perspective he made the right decision.

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June 22, 2023, 05:19:19 PM
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It's still too early to discuss Haaland's departure from Manchester City while his contract is still very long, while Manchester City and Haaland already have a fairly high clause of 200 million euros for his release, whoever the other team will recruit him will definitely think again about that clause.

Haaland would definitely love to be at Manchester City, he is the top scorer in the Premier League, and he is also the best player this season in the Premier League, he won many trophies in one season, of course with a lot that was achieved in the first season then in the second season he will definitely be even more ambitious, especially since Pep Guardiola really needs it as a sharp striker.

You're right there, of course the $200M release clause for Haaland will be extra considered by any team that wants him. Haaland has a contract with Manchester City until June 30 2027, so if other teams want Haaland from Manchester City then of course they have to be prepared to dig deeper into their pockets.

Real Madrid and several other teams reportedly wanted him, but when they found out about Haaland's original clause it was clear they would step down regularly. Right now I'm curious about how Haaland will form in his second season instead of contemplating a possible move in the uncertainties, but I believe Haaland still really wants to be with Pep Guardiola for the duration of his contract.

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June 22, 2023, 05:31:15 PM
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It's still too early to discuss Haaland's departure from Manchester City while his contract is still very long, while Manchester City and Haaland already have a fairly high clause of 200 million euros for his release, whoever the other team will recruit him will definitely think again about that clause.

Haaland would definitely love to be at Manchester City, he is the top scorer in the Premier League, and he is also the best player this season in the Premier League, he won many trophies in one season, of course with a lot that was achieved in the first season then in the second season he will definitely be even more ambitious, especially since Pep Guardiola really needs it as a sharp striker.

You're right there, of course the $200M release clause for Haaland will be extra considered by any team that wants him. Haaland has a contract with Manchester City until June 30 2027, so if other teams want Haaland from Manchester City then of course they have to be prepared to dig deeper into their pockets.

Real Madrid and several other teams reportedly wanted him, but when they found out about Haaland's original clause it was clear they would step down regularly. Right now I'm curious about how Haaland will form in his second season instead of contemplating a possible move in the uncertainties, but I believe Haaland still really wants to be with Pep Guardiola for the duration of his contract.
This price tag is another means of telling the media and interested team that Haaland is not for sell, which club will spend such amount on Haaland? its crazy price, he has many years on his contract so he is still enjoying his stay in Manchester city.

Haaland, is  a player every team desirer in their team, and Manchester city will no release him with little cash, they more demand more for any team that want him.
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June 22, 2023, 05:39:50 PM
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I can't understand why Arsenal's plans have to be tripped up by other teams if Declan Rice later transfers to Manchester City. However, the competition for Declan Rice has only just begun and now it remains only for the player to decide which club to play for next season.

With Mudryk it was the fee being little over the top for Arsenal so they left the race for him. In Rice's race, the most  crucial thing was Gundogan's decision to stay or leave and now that he is reported to be leaving, City is joining the race as *expected*. Rice is open to join any club so it is going to be bidding war between the clubs interested in him which are Arsenal and Man City as of now. But we all know how deep City's pockets are so if they are really after this player then Arsenal has lost the Rice race.

Sometimes direct talks with coach of the interested teams can also sway things towards the club so both clubs might try to do that as well. For Arsenal I think they might leave the race if at any point they feel like the fee West Ham are asking is not actually going for.
Indeed, the news of Gundogan's departure to Barcelona was so sudden that Manchester City began to take swift steps to make an offer to Declan Rice. But before Gundogan left, Manchester City had already gotten Kovacic, who was likely to become his replacement. But if you talk about Pep Guardiola's thoughts, of course he will do everything as long as the options are open and therefore it seems that Manchester City is finally following Arsenal's steps to be able to get Declan Rice.

It's true that talks with the team's coach could be an added value and as far as I know Declan Rice is closer to Pep Guardiola. Well, it seems that this transfer is really tough for Arsenal and Mikel Arteta will once again have to let go of his previous catch if West Ham finally chooses Manchester city's offer.
Man City have agreed to sign Kovacic recently and there are talks about signing Rice too. Personally, I'm not sure why they need Rice because of Pep anything can happen. If City really wants him, then they should buy him. From my understanding, they don't need Rice at the moment since they already have Rodri who is an excellent defensive midfielder. It doesn't make sense to spend on him big money just for a backup player. Though, Rice could be a good backup option in case both Rodri and Kovacic get injured. Regardless, playing for City is a dream for any player.

The move by Pep to get Rice might be more technical than we can imagine. Arteta has made some interesting offer for the powerful player, although the club is yet to agree to any price, he is confident that his addition to the team will strengthen the attack as it was lack of scorers that made Pep's Man City grab the top spot and trophy.

Any player would of course dream of playing for City, but how good are you to grab first team spot, from great players like Haaland, Grillish, De Bruyne, is perhaps unlikely for the whole season probably.

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However, Chelsea has talented players like Aubameyang, Pulisic, Sterling, and Fofana in attack. So if Chelsea's new coach Pochettino can't strengthen the bond between the players, this team will not be able to perform well in the next season. Pochettino will have to work hard to strengthen this squad.
Pocettino became a new hope. He is experienced in the EPL and is better than the previous two coaches, Potter and Lampard. What I think is that he will throw away a lot and bring in new players?
Chelsea have the best players, they have had incredible transfers this season. Their problem is only with coaches who can't empower players well. In addition they will have a lot of players returning from mass loan.
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June 22, 2023, 06:45:07 PM
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Haaland has got a stable squad. And got an experienced coach. Every Manchester City player is very helpful. The bond between the players is very good. And so Haaland has no problem adapting to this team. He has been able to adapt easily to City's players and has consistently put in good performances. On the other hand, Liverpool's scenario is completely opposite. The performance of this team was very poor in the last season. And for a long time, they were not even in the top 10 of the points table. Nunez could not adapt to this group due to the unstable condition of the whole team. And so I won't blame Nunez for his poor performance this season.
Haaland is a young player who has very good talent and is easy to adapt to other players who have successfully performed well in the Premier League and Champions League.
I think Manchester city is very lucky to be able to fight for the best players like Haaland and I have a prediction that after Haaland's success at Manchester city this will make Haaland more comfortable and always extend his contract with Manchester city.

Haaland is a great player. His fitness is very good. Able to score a lot of goals. And he has found a squad that suits him. The bond between Manchester City players is very strong. And they are supporting Haaland to score a lot of goals. Haaland played 46 matches in the Champions League and Premier League last season and scored 48 goals. Haaland had a season to remember. And Haaland is expected to become more experienced next season. And at the same time become more irresistible. Haaland will probably stay with Manchester City for a long time.

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