Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[Rampagoe004]

We also saw that happen when they managed to hold Arsenal to a draw, but what happened after? lost to Brentford, and once again they got the momentum to bounce up because they managed to hold Manchester City to a draw with the strongest team at the moment, and the question again arises, is that a sign that good things will happen to Chelsea in the next match?
The next three matches are tough matches for them, against Newcastle, Brighton and Manchester United, if they manage to overcome these opponents without losing even if they only draw, maybe we can say there has been a change in them, so there is hope they can return being a strong competitor for other strong teams and random results are not their friend.

I can still say that Chelsea is currently still inconsistent with their game. Yesterday they displayed extraordinary attacks and they managed to break into City's goal 4 times, but they also conceded 4 goals. This is homework for coaches. And this is a tough job for Pep because future opponents will take this sample as a role model for how to dismantle City's defense.

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[Cryptmuster]

I can still say that Chelsea is currently still inconsistent with their game. Yesterday they displayed extraordinary attacks and they managed to break into City's goal 4 times, but they also conceded 4 goals. This is homework for coaches. And this is a tough job for Pep because future opponents will take this sample as a role model for how to dismantle City's defense.

Chelsea were able to provide City with worthy resistance, for the second match in a row they scored 4 goals against the championship leaders. And if in the match with Tottenham there were dubious moments, then in the match with City everything was as difficult as possible for them, but they managed to achieve a very important draw. So far, it hasn't changed anything significantly for them, because they are still in the middle of the table. And Tottenham gradually began to fall and are now in fourth place.

[Majestic-milf]

It's not even that Manchester City are three-time league winners or that they're actually stronger. The point is that after such terrible performances from Chelsea they are finally starting to show their old level, this is the second match in a row where they are playing great and a draw in such a match is a victory

 City don't need to be 3 time EPL winners before we could say that about them. We all know that City are stronger than Chelsea any day any time but the performance of the Blues was extremely wonderful and I'm tempted to say this was the best performance they've had since the beginning of the season against any big team in the EPL.
 I just wish they shouldn't stop with this wonderful form they displayed yesterday,  it would be a thing of joy for the Blues to come back from the break and continue making other opponents find it hard to get 3pt like before.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I think arsenal is not still ready to win the league this season,  whenever arsenal meets big teams I can't feel that desperation of them winning the march,  they just play to see what will the end result will look like . The mentality arsenal is possessing right now can't make them to win the league this season.  I can't see that see that seriousness in them, arsenal just need to see themselves winning their coming games if they want . This season arsenal have many challengers which might now be that easy for them to get the title.

If we look at the table points actually the difference in points is still very close this means that these 4 teams still have the same opportunity including Arsenal so we have no reason to exclude Arsenal from the race and the highlight is Arsenal one of the most consistent teams, previously Arsenal still held an unbeaten record unfortunately the record was destroyed by Newcastle last week. Overall I still believe that Arsenal are still the main competitors to win the title just like last season and they can do it if they can continue to maintain consistency. By the way, Arsenal one of the teams that defeated Manchester City this season.

The 13th match will be played on November 25 and that's one of the matches we are waiting for Manchester City vs Liverpool, winners in this match will be at the top of the standings because both teams are only one point adrift. Manchester City did play at home but this time his opponent was Liverpool, they could have given a surprise because they are at the same level.

[Agbamoni]

Liverpool? They're not ready, have you seen that defense? They can't win the Premier League. Arsenal have tasted what if feels like to be at the top and failed, but after failure comes success, I'm tipping gunner's for the Premier League but they should be consistent.

Liverpool is much better prepared than Arsenal.
Liverpool is a team that has a better mentality than Arsenal to win the Premier League title, last season it was clear that Arsenal were just not mentally prepared when they were under pressure, I think this season will be the same.
There are many young players in the team which makes Arsenal's team mentality not as tough as other top teams, it may take several years to start the process so that it can produce a title.

I think arsenal is not still ready to win the league this season,  whenever arsenal meets big teams I can't feel that desperation of them winning the march,  they just play to see what will the end result will look like . The mentality arsenal is possessing right now can't make them to win the league this season.  I can't see that see that seriousness in them, arsenal just need to see themselves winning their coming games if they want . This season arsenal have many challengers which might now be that easy for them to get the title.

You have a valid point. The pattern of Arsenal playing is somewhat different from another team. They have this calm and tactical pattern of playing football. Whenever they try to play aggressively like other teams, they end up losing the game. I don't know why Arsenal manager decided to teach the team this pattern of play, well it has done more good than harm. Because i could remember the match against Chelsea and Newcastle it cost them a lot.
 
Manchester City is still very strong in the league and the way they are playing they might likely win the league again, since Arsenal still finds it difficult to climb the league table.

[Oluwa-btc]

Yes, to be honest, I was also a bit surprised to see the results obtained by Chelsea with an amazing draw when they hosted Manchester City. Indeed, many people underestimated Chelsea in this match (including me) but it turns out that Chelsea was able to give their best performance even though they didn't manage to beat Manchester City, but at least the result A draw isn't too bad for Chelsea.
It seems that Pochettino is now slowly being able to build the performance of Chelsea players to continue improving their performance against top clubs this season.

and in the next match Chelsea will playing an away match against Newcastle, this will be quite an interesting matches because Chelsea is in high self-confidence and what is certain is that Newcastle will not give Chelsea a chances to winning the match and of course Newcastle will take advantage of their advantage as the home team.

Honestly, I wasn't too surprised with that yesterday's match outcome because Chelsea always managed to slip away points from top big teams even when they are struggling. But Let's all agree Chelsea actually played better yesterday and Manchester city really fought hard and they would've won that game if not for that last minutes penalty. City defense was really weak in the first half and many missed opportunities from both sides. Man city had some accurate passes but the deliverance was the problem. The midfielders from both teams were strong in the first half but city started struggling in the second half. They gave Chelsea too many chances to score but Chelsea failed to utilize those chances.

They have all the possibilities of repeating wins against their next four fixtures including Manchester United. Come 12 December, Chelsea will beat Manchester United at Old Trafford if they don't improve and fix both the internal and external issues they've had.

Pep Guardiola lost the game in the midfied, Chelsea midfielder's outplayed Manchester City in the first half, before he could bring in Kovacic to help shield the midfied alongside Rodri it was too late. The presence of John Stones would have done that for Rodri supporting him from defense by joining the midfielder's. That would have stopped, Cole Palmer, Enzo Fernandez, Gallagher and Raheem Sterling operations.
It was a good evening for the host. They should have won but lacked a concrete number nine player. ( Victor Oshime should be signed ) Todd Boehly's billion dollar investment paying off gradually.

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Chelsea seem to have improved greatly, recently their performance and results are really impressive as compared to how they started the league earlier this season were they were having so much of inconsistency and we're loosing matching and appeared in a poor form.

Pochettino has once again proven thy all he need was just time and he would achieve much with Chelsea. With their recent performance we can say even if they don't eventually win the league title they will be able to qualify for UCL next seasons by finishing amongst the top four if only they can be consistent with their performance, Liverpool is one team Chelsea is yet to meet this season, hopefully whenever they actually meet they still put up a good performance because Liverpool has recently been really good in the premier league tho have Lost some matches

Chelsea have only won 4 wins this season and of course their performance has not yet fully returned to their best form. However, their game might be a little better because they were able to prevent Manchester City from getting 3 points at Stamford Bridge. In this match, the attacking action in the first half to the second half was quite good because both teams played openly to score goals in this match. I also praise the quality of Jackson where he contributed to scoring goals in this match because he was not able to contribute much in the previous match but he has now started to find ways to score goals, I think he has to maintain his best form because if he has difficulty scoring goal could be that chelsea will look for another sticker in the transfer window this winter.

Apart from that, the quality of play of the two teams in this match was really balanced and it didn't seem difficult for Chelsea to put pressure on Manchester City. Maybe it's fair enough that the score is a draw for this match because both teams performed well in this match. For City, they lead the standings with a point margin that is quite close to Arsenal. In fact, we will again see a fierce competition between Arsenal and Manchester City who will mutually defend their place on the standings.

[topbitcoin]

Liverpool? They're not ready, have you seen that defense? They can't win the Premier League. Arsenal have tasted what if feels like to be at the top and failed, but after failure comes success, I'm tipping gunner's for the Premier League but they should be consistent.

Even if last season Arsenal had been in good competition but that doesn't mean they are ready now and some other clubs like Liverpool are still not ready for that.
Liverpool did not do well last season in terms of performance but for the previous few seasons, they were Manchester City's strongest competitors at the top of the table.
Now the race for the standings is still very tight especially with yesterday's draw from Manchester City making the competition even tighter because from the first position (Manchester City) to the 5th position (Aston Villa) is currently only 3 points away so now the competition depends on consistency in my opinion although the favorite is definitely City.

[gabbie2010]

Most people must think Chelsea is still the same team before it is managed by Pochettino. People also assume Man City has a better squad, they are the favorite team to win the EPL title. So, it is normal if people never think Chelsea to give difficulty to Man City. But in fact, Chelsea made Man City played under pressure. Chelsea even has a chance to win the match if they didn't do a mistake. A controversial decision made by the referee also contributed to the failure of Chelsea to win the match. Well, we can think that Chelsea is unlucky today. If there are no those bad things, Chelsea already defeated Man City today. However, although the match ended with a draw result, we know Chelsea played impressively. They showed a strong mentality to neve give up, they also showed a big improvement in their game now. I believe there are no EPL teams will underestimate Chelsea anymore.

Man City held to a draw by Chelsea? Wow, it was very surprising and unexpected that the Blues were able to provide fierce resistance to Pep Guardiola troops. I don't believe Chelsea will play this strong. They showed a different class in this match. Man City must be quite disappointed with this result because after all Chelsea has started to recover. To be honest, I thought Chelsea would lose badly, even though the players they have don't seem promising, here I have to admit that playing against a big club Chelsea should be considered dangerous.

This result will change the public's view of Chelsea, and it is true that what the public said after the victory over Tottenham made their motivation to improve clearly visible in this match. In my opinion, both of them deserve to show an extraordinary game, and this match is more exciting than the Manchester Derby. Palmer's final goal prevented Man City from bringing 3 points, a mutual pressing game was shown by both clubs.

So far this season Chelsea had proved to be formidable against top clubs in the premier league and I predicted this game against Man City that Chelsea would prove stubborn and remain strong in the match and everything played out as I predicted, recall their match against Liverpool they scored first unfortunately later conceded a goal to end the match in a draw, against Arsenal they also lead with two goals and conceded the two goals to draw the match 2-2, last week Monday they defeated Tottenham Hotspur to break their unbeaten winning streak yesterday against Man City they played one of their best game of the season, I am sure when they play Man Utd the same outcome is likely to happen either they win or draw that match.

[Weawant]

I think arsenal is not still ready to win the league this season,  whenever arsenal meets big teams I can't feel that desperation of them winning the march,  they just play to see what will the end result will look like . The mentality arsenal is possessing right now can't make them to win the league this season.  I can't see that see that seriousness in them, arsenal just need to see themselves winning their coming games if they want . This season arsenal have many challengers which might now be that easy for them to get the title.

I've always had that feeling that arsenal may likely repeat what they did last season, because winning the league requires much more than just starting off the season so well last season they actually did well past midsesson and still ended up not winning the league title.

The last time I saw much passion and zeal I'm them to win was when they played against Manchester city, after then they have just been on average performances just they they are still in their very good form and so they still win matches regardless but it doesn't look sustainable to me yet but one thing is sure, they will most likely finish tops amongst the top four or five just like they did last season but if the improve and stay consistent it's very possible they may have a chance with the league title.

[shinratensei_]

The main opening of the season in the Premier League in the face of Tottenham is slowly starting to deflate, having lost the second match in a row. And it is not necessary to say that this happened in extra time, because Tottenham itself won a bunch of matches in the season, snatching victory in the last minutes. Another question is whether such results will not be the beginning of a peak and how long the crisis will drag on.

Totenham played so badly and ange was aware about that. I think that the this is the beginning of the falling of totenham. The performance from totenham has been declining but that's ange's problem. Hope it will be fixed soon. So many eyes are focusing into the game between chelsea vs manchester city. It's caused by this game is so hyped. Chelsea gets draw against manchester city but the thing that amazes me if chelsea was able playing equal compared to the manchester.
I dunno what was the main problemf aced by chelsea when it was facing the small clubs but the performance from chelsea kinda different.

Many people were watching the match and it's really worthy time consuming. EPL becomes even more interesting since some clubs were coming back again. The performance from chelsea was amazing.
I think that chelsea can enter into the europa league next season. I hope chelsea will always be doing well till the last match of the currenbt season. Chelsea vs city has also become trending on twitter.

[Abu-Naim]

Kai Havertz is a player who joined Arsenal after spending a huge amount of money on him. When Kai Havertz joined Arsenal, they were expecting to see a much better performance from this player because of the money they invested in him but he couldn't have been a good performance so far in Arsenal during this season.
Paul Merson, the former player of Arsenal started talking about this player and he said Arteta is not using this player well and he thinks Havertz is a more effective player as for forward.

No matter the role Kai Havertz will be given in the Arsenal squad, he will not perform well because he knows that Arsenal fans are expecting too much from him due to the amount of money they spend on him and the huge amount of money he is receiving weekly as his salary. He was signed to be a replacement for Granit Xhaka, but his performance is not very impressive. That is why Arteta is trying to improvise by giving Declan Rice the new role of playing eight instead of four, and he usually brings in Jorginho to play four now that Odegard is injured.

Kai Havertz will likely leave Arsenal soon because Real Madrid is showing interest in him, and Arsenal fans are not happy with him in the squad because Arteta keeps using him even though he is not given his best for the team. Arsenal will consider selling him and Partey during the January transfer window and signing more competitive players since signing Havertz did not work and Thomas Partey is an injury-prone player.

[Docnaster]

Liverpool? They're not ready, have you seen that defense? They can't win the Premier League. Arsenal have tasted what if feels like to be at the top and failed, but after failure comes success, I'm tipping gunner's for the Premier League but they should be consistent.

Even if last season Arsenal had been in good competition but that doesn't mean they are ready now and some other clubs like Liverpool are still not ready for that.
Liverpool did not do well last season in terms of performance but for the previous few seasons, they were Manchester City's strongest competitors at the top of the table.
Now the race for the standings is still very tight especially with yesterday's draw from Manchester City making the competition even tighter because from the first position (Manchester City) to the 5th position (Aston Villa) is currently only 3 points away so now the competition depends on consistency in my opinion although the favorite is definitely City.

Arsenal has been very impressive since the start of the season and deserves all the praises they're getting at the moment concerning teams that are gonna challenge Manchester City for the English Premier League title this season but if you ask me, I'll say Liverpool are better contender for title than Arsenal.
Jurgen Klopp I believe understands how to rival Pep Guardiola very well and would definitely push for the league trophy till the last day of the league. Manchester City is widely believed to be the favourites to retain the league title but I think Liverpool will give them a good run for their money.

[QueenVera]

Chelsea have only won 4 wins this season and of course their performance has not yet fully returned to their best form. However, their game might be a little better because they were able to prevent Manchester City from getting 3 points at Stamford Bridge. In this match, the attacking action in the first half to the second half was quite good because both teams played openly to score goals in this match. I also praise the quality of Jackson where he contributed to scoring goals in this match because he was not able to contribute much in the previous match but he has now started to find ways to score goals, I think he has to maintain his best form because if he has difficulty scoring goal could be that chelsea will look for another sticker in the transfer window this winter.

Apart from that, the quality of play of the two teams in this match was really balanced and it didn't seem difficult for Chelsea to put pressure on Manchester City. Maybe it's fair enough that the score is a draw for this match because both teams performed well in this match. For City, they lead the standings with a point margin that is quite close to Arsenal. In fact, we will again see a fierce competition between Arsenal and Manchester City who will mutually defend their place on the standings.

Chelsea's performance against City was really impressive, it's obvious that Pouchettino needed time to get those boys to start doing better because recently they've really wowed everyone, alot of people expected City to deal with Chelsea in their home ground but they held their ground and didn't allow Manchester City to get the 3points, the match was very entertaining and with the way they played against City to score 4 goals it means that their upcoming matches might be successful.

 So far Chelsea are becoming very tough against the big teams in  EPL, they drew Arsenal, won Tottenham and drew against the mighty City, the next big team they'll face is Manchester united and i think it's not going to be very tough for them, if they could be very tough and get points against those three teams that are in a very good form this season then defeating Manchester United might not be a very big problem.

[Leviathan.007]

Chelsea are really showcasing some good results in this season by defeated Tottenham Hotspur 4-1 who was the most toping team in the premier league, and have a good draw with Arsenal and Manchester city that made people to respect Chelsea manager for the good impact he has impacted his players in this season. Manchester city was leading the match in the first half before Chelsea came to equalized the goal in the 28th minutes that made me to believe that this match will not going to be easy match for Manchester city, because they are still missing De Bruyne for some matches now and it has caused them to reduced little performance. If Liverpool can display what they are displaying now to moved to second position in the premier league table, show that Arsenal will fail for Liverpool to embrace victory from the match that will make them to maintain the second position in this season.

Chelsea seem to have improved greatly, recently their performance and results are really impressive as compared to how they started the league earlier this season were they were having so much of inconsistency and we're loosing matching and appeared in a poor form.

Pochettino has once again proven thy all he need was just time and he would achieve much with Chelsea. With their recent performance we can say even if they don't eventually win the league title they will be able to qualify for UCL next seasons by finishing amongst the top four if only they can be consistent with their performance, Liverpool is one team Chelsea is yet to meet this season, hopefully whenever they actually meet they still put up a good performance because Liverpool has recently been really good in the premier league tho have Lost some matches

Chelsea sent a huge amount of money since they got the new owners and I think any team can improve after they spend this huge amount of money for their teams. In fact, Chelsea had many changes and Pochettino rebuilt the team after he started working there but this team needed some more time to get improve.
But Chelsea is still in 10th place in the Premier League and they need to work harder to improve their place in the league.

[nara1892]

The main opening of the season in the Premier League in the face of Tottenham is slowly starting to deflate, having lost the second match in a row. And it is not necessary to say that this happened in extra time, because Tottenham itself won a bunch of matches in the season, snatching victory in the last minutes. Another question is whether such results will not be the beginning of a peak and how long the crisis will drag on.

Totenham played so badly and ange was aware about that. I think that the this is the beginning of the falling of totenham. The performance from totenham has been declining but that's ange's problem. Hope it will be fixed soon. So many eyes are focusing into the game between chelsea vs manchester city. It's caused by this game is so hyped. Chelsea gets draw against manchester city but the thing that amazes me if chelsea was able playing equal compared to the manchester.
I dunno what was the main problemf aced by chelsea when it was facing the small clubs but the performance from chelsea kinda different.

Many people were watching the match and it's really worthy time consuming. EPL becomes even more interesting since some clubs were coming back again. The performance from chelsea was amazing.
I think that chelsea can enter into the europa league next season. I hope chelsea will always be doing well till the last match of the currenbt season. Chelsea vs city has also become trending on twitter.

Yes that's right, and as time goes by now Tottenham is getting down from the standings, initially the arrival of this team in the top five of the standings was very surprising to all eyes, they came suddenly and until they could reach the top of the standings, honestly I never thought that they would have such a sharp performance this season. But yes as we see that now they are getting worse, it all started in their last few matches against Chelsea with a landslide score and followed by defeat in the match afterwards against Wolves, honestly I also think it looks like these two defeats are the beginning of Tottenham's return to their usual slump.

Now they are ranked fourth below Arsenal, and yes, however Ange must be able to improve the consistency of his club. And yes it's true, I thought at first Chelsea's victory with a landslide score over Tottenham I thought it was just luck, but it turns out it looks like my assumption was wrong because it was clear in last night's match Chelsea were able to perform very well against Manchester City by winning a draw, honestly it was an extraordinary score for a team that was slumping against an elite team like Manchester City. With all this evidence then it seems that I am a little convinced that indeed Pochettino has begun to succeed in making changes to his team, and yes if only they can maintain their consistency then I think it is true that Chelsea have a chance to qualify or enter the Europa League, they still have time until the end of the season, as long as they continue to be consistent.

[Velvet78]

I never expected such game between Chelsea and Manchester City. I was giving Manchester City a huge chance to win this game away honestly. However it was one of the unforgettable games in history for both sides. Despite the rain we watched 8 goals in total.    Chelsea's resistance was amazing by the way.

They are really getting used to scoring 4 goals in each game these days.    Manchester City could have won by 4-3 though if it weren't for that penalty. But it was an unlucky tackle by Dias as the ground was really slippy. It is really hard to tackle carefully under such pitch conditions.

The last foul that gave chelsea penalty was clean foul. I think that anyone know that but i must admit that if this is the best match. The atmosphere is pretty much the same like final. It's unbelievable to see chelsea played so crazily against manchester city.

It feels like that chelsea was not willing to lose against city. That's also the reason why the club keeps try even until the end of game. Many people are picking city to win the game but chelsea made it different this day.
Guess how many people are losing their bet today caused by the result from this match? this is unbelivable to say that if chelsea was doing it so perfect. That's so amazing to see that. The gameplay has very fast tempo

Im feeling if we was in the final. The atmosphere is pretty much the same like final. This is amazing and unbelievable performance from chelsea.

When it comes to penalty yeah it was definitely the right call there. But if we talk about the other penalty given to Haaland I can't back that call honestly. Because it is clearly seen that Haaland pulled down Cucurella's arm first and after that Cucurella did it to Haaland. I don't think that pulling should be considered as "neck and neck".

Other than that we watched a really incredible game that's for sure.    It was nice to see Chelsea seeing some good signs to recover. They have left the toughest games of the first half of the season with 4 points. I mean against Tottenham and Manchester City.

[SmartCharpa]

Today’s game was thrilling, I was at the edge of my seat throughout.  This match is arguably the best match I have seen this season. Chelsea did very well today, I wasn’t expecting them to score as many goals as they did, I really hope they can maintain this form and also to work on their defense. Today’s game proves that Manchester City are not invincible, I doubt they will be winning a treble this season.

Despite I'm not a fan of both teams, I watched the match because I couldn't miss it. Chelsea really played well against Manchester City, and but they lose to weak teams, I think this is an ability that Chelsea always displays. Even when they are not playing well, they still perform unexpected against strong teams; yesterday, even Sterling performed better. Since Chelsea was able to defeat Tottenham, I have noticed new changes in their game. That was also the most outstanding match I have seen this season. I wasn't expecting Chelsea to perform better than that. Chelsea's defense is usually an issue for them, but after the break, I think they'll perform better.

Will we now declare that Chelsea is performing on their best form again? Given how Chelsea played against Man City, I don't think even Manchester United will have a chance against them. If Chelsea keeps up this kind of play, I think they will continue to move up. After all, they only perform well against big clubs.

[Marvell1]

Chelsea are really showcasing some good results in this season by defeated Tottenham Hotspur 4-1 who was the most toping team in the premier league, and have a good draw with Arsenal and Manchester city that made people to respect Chelsea manager for the good impact he has impacted his players in this season. Manchester city was leading the match in the first half before Chelsea came to equalized the goal in the 28th minutes that made me to believe that this match will not going to be easy match for Manchester city, because they are still missing De Bruyne for some matches now and it has caused them to reduced little performance. If Liverpool can display what they are displaying now to moved to second position in the premier league table, show that Arsenal will fail for Liverpool to embrace victory from the match that will make them to maintain the second position in this season.

Chelsea seem to have improved greatly, recently their performance and results are really impressive as compared to how they started the league earlier this season were they were having so much of inconsistency and we're loosing matching and appeared in a poor form.
Pochettino has once again proven thy all he need was just time and he would achieve much with Chelsea. With their recent performance we can say even if they don't eventually win the league title they will be able to qualify for UCL next seasons by finishing amongst the top four if only they can be consistent with their performance, Liverpool is one team Chelsea is yet to meet this season, hopefully whenever they actually meet they still put up a good performance because Liverpool has recently been really good in the premier league tho have Lost some matches

Chelsea sent a huge amount of money since they got the new owners and I think any team can improve after they spend this huge amount of money for their teams. In fact, Chelsea had many changes and Pochettino rebuilt the team after he started working there but this team needed some more time to get improve.
But Chelsea is still in 10th place in the Premier League and they need to work harder to improve their place in the league.

I watched Chelsea's performance against Manchester City. I will say Chelsea's performance impressed me. The team's performance at the beginning of the season was very poor. Especially their forward players could not perform well. But in the last two games, Chelsea have shown that their overall position has undergone a dramatic change. I wouldn't say that Chelsea dominated against Manchester City, but their overall gameplay was very good. Every player in the team performed well in his position. And against a strong team like City, they played completely attacking strategy.

[KTChampions]

Last season, City played with Newcastle 3-3 and this did not stop them from winning the treble. But the absence of KDB certainly has an impact, and in any case, the fact that Chelsea were able to score as many as four goals against them is impressive.
By the way, in the next round City plays Liverpool and I hope they will lose points again, and if Liverpool wins, they will also take the lead. What score will we expect in this game if the result with Chelsea is 4-4? 8-8?  

Actually it's not too makesenese to make this one match as a benchmark for a season because in my opinion even if they draw they also have nothing to lose and indeed I agree with what you said considering this also does not mean Manchester City's performance is bad because this is actually one of the best reminders for Pep that they still have to improve if they still want to make new history now.
Losing KDB as a successor in midfield and as an attack organizer with a pass that always spoils other players is indeed one of the problems that Manchester City still cannot solve to this day even though their performance is still very good but when KDB is not in this squad it still gives one characteristic that is lacking from Manchester City but for the problem of champions and Pep's achievements I think today's draw does not guarantee anything for the end of the season because I believe they can still develop better now.

I am rooting against City and with regret I understand that they are doing great even now - for example, if we take last season, then after 12 games played City was 2 points behind Arsenal. Now they are already in first place.
There is hope that Liverpool will beat them and the intrigue will be revived again. By the way, I heard that Klopp is outraged that the City-Liverpool game will take place on Saturday afternoon after the international break. He believes that the players will not have time to rest and prepare. And I think this is reasonable - the visiting team finds itself in very unfavorable conditions.