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July 29, 2023, 01:56:50 PM |
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Guys, with all due respect, there is no point in raising a flag and opening a scam accusation for a website that is gone forever. Nobody to warn for. It's only an hour wasted of my life and another bitter moment of having to live through the situation again.
I can understand your frustration, but I have to disagree. While the website may be gone for now, raising a flag and sharing your experience with others can still serve a purpose. By doing so, you can potentially prevent others from falling victim to scam in case the casino ever comes back and resumes business. Right now, we still don't know if the site's outage is just temporary or if they have indeed closed their doors for good. As you can see from the previous comments, their other domain is still active. So, we'll have to wait and see how the situation unfolds. There is 0% chance they come back, don't be so naive. And that other website (betnomi.bet) is simply an old version of their website of 2021. This was clarified already before. I think you misunderstand what FatFork tried to say, he simply suggested that, suppose betnomi really fold their business [just like you're sure they do], flags and accusation threads from members who have strong evidences might help others, suppose they didn't know the current situation and tried to access via betnomi.bet. It is, certainly, completely up to your decision if you want to raise an accusation thread or not.
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July 29, 2023, 02:30:12 PM |
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Things are not looking any good out here. I haven't been around lately but I had some hope that the Betnomi team would appear and clarify things, even though it wasn't the best way to go on maintenance without any further notice or communication posted on their website or social media accounts and what they did is only making them very suspected of a scam attempt. Now, when I try to access the website, I no longer see the maintenance notice like the first days but instead, I see an error message: INTERNAL_SERVER_ERROR, which seems to be and suggest that there's a high chance Betnomi won't come back at all. I hope there will be a special discussion and a topic where every person who has funds stuck on the casino before the shut down can come together to assess how much Betnomi might still owe them, and then file a complaint against the casino with Curacao the entity that granted them a license.
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Csmiami
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July 29, 2023, 03:04:17 PM |
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There is 0% chance they come back, don't be so naive.
I mean, they did come back to the forum after one scam accusation, a failed ICO in which they received money from investors (and it's surprising we are not digging into that) and the owner publicly talking about his past side gigs as a hacker; some people have a tendency of surprising you
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GekkeBelg
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July 29, 2023, 03:33:33 PM |
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Guys, with all due respect, there is no point in raising a flag and opening a scam accusation for a website that is gone forever. Nobody to warn for. It's only an hour wasted of my life and another bitter moment of having to live through the situation again.
I can understand your frustration, but I have to disagree. While the website may be gone for now, raising a flag and sharing your experience with others can still serve a purpose. By doing so, you can potentially prevent others from falling victim to scam in case the casino ever comes back and resumes business. Right now, we still don't know if the site's outage is just temporary or if they have indeed closed their doors for good. As you can see from the previous comments, their other domain is still active. So, we'll have to wait and see how the situation unfolds. There is 0% chance they come back, don't be so naive. And that other website (betnomi.bet) is simply an old version of their website of 2021. This was clarified already before. I think you misunderstand what FatFork tried to say, he simply suggested that, suppose betnomi really fold their business [just like you're sure they do], flags and accusation threads from members who have strong evidences might help others, suppose they didn't know the current situation and tried to access via betnomi.bet. It is, certainly, completely up to your decision if you want to raise an accusation thread or not. Betnomi.bet does not work, you cannot register and/or deposit on there. It even says on the right bottom corner "invalid website"
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Mahdirakib
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July 29, 2023, 04:58:32 PM |
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I can confirm that there haven't been any official updates from their staff on the official Telegram channel.
One of their telegram channel admin had said that they will relaunch Betnomi with better in-house games, the message was sent on the 3rd July. Surprisingly, those messages have been deleted by Betnomi telegram group admin. Which is another sign that they aren't going to relaunch their casino. suppose they didn't know the current situation and tried to access via betnomi.bet.
Users can login to Betnomi.bet by using the old Betnomi login information. But the deposit method has been disabled there a long time ago.
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GekkeBelg
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July 29, 2023, 08:20:57 PM |
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I can confirm that there haven't been any official updates from their staff on the official Telegram channel.
One of their telegram channel admin had said that they will relaunch Betnomi with better in-house games, the message was sent on the 3rd July. Surprisingly, those messages have been deleted by Betnomi telegram group admin. Which is another sign that they aren't going to relaunch their casino. suppose they didn't know the current situation and tried to access via betnomi.bet.
Users can login to Betnomi.bet by using the old Betnomi login information. But the deposit method has been disabled there a long time ago. Can you? I just tried and when I pressed login it kept loading and nothing happened. Were you able to login just now?
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Odusko
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July 29, 2023, 08:54:25 PM |
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Guys, with all due respect, there is no point in raising a flag and opening a scam accusation for a website that is gone forever. Nobody to warn for. It's only an hour wasted of my life and another bitter moment of having to live through the situation again.
I rather focus my energy on trying to convince other books to create a bailout situation for the victims where they can get their (part of) funds back.
Creating a red flag against Betnomi is left for the victims of the platform who may have lost their money in the incident that involve Betnomi where the casino parked off without any notice to the clients and have violated the right to access their funds on the casino, but if there is not substantial evidence against the casino the flag will not still stand. On the creation of a bailout for the victims by other casinos, it still sounds to be a lost hope because most of the casinos are also struggling to remain in business so making a bailout for another casino's mistake is a big waste of time and resources.
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GekkeBelg
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July 29, 2023, 11:48:26 PM |
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Guys, with all due respect, there is no point in raising a flag and opening a scam accusation for a website that is gone forever. Nobody to warn for. It's only an hour wasted of my life and another bitter moment of having to live through the situation again.
I rather focus my energy on trying to convince other books to create a bailout situation for the victims where they can get their (part of) funds back.
Creating a red flag against Betnomi is left for the victims of the platform who may have lost their money in the incident that involve Betnomi where the casino parked off without any notice to the clients and have violated the right to access their funds on the casino, but if there is not substantial evidence against the casino the flag will not still stand. On the creation of a bailout for the victims by other casinos, it still sounds to be a lost hope because most of the casinos are also struggling to remain in business so making a bailout for another casino's mistake is a big waste of time and resources. Really? You think Stake and Sportsbet are struggling? Trust me, they are swimming in funds.
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BitcoinGirl.Club
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July 30, 2023, 11:31:48 AM |
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Sorry, for last few weeks I am not following these type of cases closely. Just had a read of last few posts and bad to know that it hasn't been solved yet. Do we have a list of victims who can create flags? I think there are no point for us to wait more and see which direction they are going. May be they are waiting for a whale to make some deposits [if deposits are working] and then they will just disappears. Creating a flag and supporting it may save some rich guy to get scammed.
Since you asked... at a glance, far as I know, three that could raise a thread and a flag will be Stayzor as mentioned above, with case of 20,000 USD and boroBTC, with case of several thousand euros [the exact amount is not specified]. Both of them don't have a scam accusation thread against betnomi or raised any flag, just posts. GekkeBelg has a 0.9 BTC case too, but he also haven't raise any thread. I don't think the other two other complainants on CG, zIPiico and sobcapnun, of which the verdict by CG are in favor to their side, have an account here, so I don't think they'll come and raise any thread or flag.
Edit: ahh... there, boroBTC is right above me, posting when I compose this post. I see all three of them are active, at-least one of them's oldest login date is 27th. @Stayzor, boroBTC and GekkeBelg, I think it's time for you guys to help us. Create flags. Create three flags from three different users and let the community decides. I will be the one who will support without giving a second thinking. I had enough of it. 1. Create flags. 2. Post all flags in one comment so that everyone can find it easily to support or if they want to oppose.
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Mahdirakib
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July 30, 2023, 03:59:08 PM |
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Can you? I just tried and when I pressed login it kept loading and nothing happened. Were you able to login just now?
Yep, I had logged in to Betnomi.bet yesterday. I have just checked the login process again, and it is working for me. Maybe you haven't used the old Betnomi account login details. Otherwise, try to login by clearing the cache of your browser.
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July 30, 2023, 04:37:45 PM |
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Can you? I just tried and when I pressed login it kept loading and nothing happened. Were you able to login just now?
Yep, I had logged in to Betnomi.bet yesterday. I have just checked the login process again, and it is working for me. Maybe you haven't used the old Betnomi account login details. Otherwise, try to login by clearing the cache of your browser. I think it will only work if you were already a customer of Betnomi in 2021, when that site was made. I wasn't so that could explain why I can't login.
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BitcoinGirl.Club
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Maintenance page is now removed from Betnomi website and I see they have new error page now, saying The Edge Function crashed, with internal 500 server error. Maybe they are working on coming back but I still didnt saw any official explanations or announcement from them. Is everyone else having the same error as me? Looks like we will all get the same error. With the lack of response from the site rep, i'm guessing they have disappeared for good. If they return, likely will be rebranded so be on the lookout for different casino same software provider of betconstruct. there is no clarification and confirmation received from the betnomi team at this time even in this thread there is also no active team anymore, everything just disappeared, I also found the same error on the betnomi domain there saw 500: INTERNAL_SERVER_ERROR usually if it's like this it's true really hard to expect to come back again, usually it will just disappear by itself. I often see sites like that and in the end they just disappear, I think also some people might have been frustrated to see things like this which made them wait a long time and I've also seen the OP's account on betnomi marked red which represents betnomi on this forum , I think you're right it looks like they've really disappeared now. I wanted to visit betnomi.com and found very similar error. Which means the domain betnomi.com is not working. Can you? I just tried and when I pressed login it kept loading and nothing happened. Were you able to login just now?
Yep, I had logged in to Betnomi.bet yesterday. I have just checked the login process again, and it is working for me. Maybe you haven't used the old Betnomi account login details. Otherwise, try to login by clearing the cache of your browser. The last time I remember I had a conversation where I realized betnomi.com and betnomi.bet are two different software. They said they own both but here we are focusing on betnomi.com which is the brand advertised on this forum. obviously GekkeBelg is trying to login to betnomi.com and our sportsbook in the topic is betnomi.com too
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July 30, 2023, 09:02:00 PM |
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Maintenance page is now removed from Betnomi website and I see they have new error page now, saying The Edge Function crashed, with internal 500 server error. Maybe they are working on coming back but I still didnt saw any official explanations or announcement from them. Is everyone else having the same error as me? Looks like we will all get the same error. With the lack of response from the site rep, i'm guessing they have disappeared for good. If they return, likely will be rebranded so be on the lookout for different casino same software provider of betconstruct. there is no clarification and confirmation received from the betnomi team at this time even in this thread there is also no active team anymore, everything just disappeared, I also found the same error on the betnomi domain there saw 500: INTERNAL_SERVER_ERROR usually if it's like this it's true really hard to expect to come back again, usually it will just disappear by itself. I often see sites like that and in the end they just disappear, I think also some people might have been frustrated to see things like this which made them wait a long time and I've also seen the OP's account on betnomi marked red which represents betnomi on this forum , I think you're right it looks like they've really disappeared now. I wanted to visit betnomi.com and found very similar error. Which means the domain betnomi.com is not working. Can you? I just tried and when I pressed login it kept loading and nothing happened. Were you able to login just now?
Yep, I had logged in to Betnomi.bet yesterday. I have just checked the login process again, and it is working for me. Maybe you haven't used the old Betnomi account login details. Otherwise, try to login by clearing the cache of your browser. The last time I remember I had a conversation where I realized betnomi.com and betnomi.bet are two different software. They said they own both but here we are focusing on betnomi.com which is the brand advertised on this forum. obviously GekkeBelg is trying to login to betnomi.com and our sportsbook in the topic is betnomi.com too Obviously not, because there is no betnomi.com to try to login to. Obviously I was trying to login to betnomi.bet just to test it out.
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July 30, 2023, 09:32:04 PM |
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It took some time to get it, but it finally came last week. I had no time to post about it because I spent the whole month traveling, but here goes: Thanks Betnomi! ❤️️
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July 31, 2023, 01:54:09 AM |
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When Betnomi took 5+ weeks to pay me many in this thread said I did something wrong or some type of scammer. Their owner disappeared and it tookslike 100 messages in telegram before I got paid. Maybe next time take people at face value. Why would anyone spend weeks trying to "slander" a book for a 100 bucks. They were going broke then. But for every person saying they got slowed paid in this thread 4 or 5 people would shout them down. This is one of the few forums on the internet that protects the big guys first and treats every new user like they're a scumbag hacker.
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July 31, 2023, 08:28:22 AM |
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When Betnomi took 5+ weeks to pay me many in this thread said I did something wrong or some type of scammer. Their owner disappeared and it tookslike 100 messages in telegram before I got paid. Maybe next time take people at face value. Why would anyone spend weeks trying to "slander" a book for a 100 bucks. They were going broke then. But for every person saying they got slowed paid in this thread 4 or 5 people would shout them down. This is one of the few forums on the internet that protects the big guys first and treats every new user like they're a scumbag hacker.
Quoting for the amplification. It will still get "acktually there are TWO sides to the story" replies. Betnomi saw these suckers a mile off.
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boroBTC
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July 31, 2023, 08:34:54 AM |
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let's face it. they are frauds. I'm not tech savvy, so if there's any debt collection activity, I'll join.
I have a loss of 5300 euros.
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piebeyb
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July 31, 2023, 09:02:58 AM |
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let's face it. they are frauds. I'm not tech savvy, so if there's any debt collection activity, I'll join.
I have a loss of 5300 euros.
If you feel you have proof and screenshots that you are losing money because this site has gone out to be a scam, you should give a red mark on the betnomi account to prevent beginners from staying away from this site, well even though this site seems to be inaccessible anymore but at least it's a precaution take care if one day they come back again with the same domain. I think the domain is still valid and has not expired maybe they could come back or not, but you have the right to mark their account with a red flag or flag their account, at least create a thread on the accusation board to complete your loss information from this site, I think that's your right and I see that some of those who have lost money have also marked red on the betnomi account.
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Trade on the go. Anywhere, anytime.
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examplens
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July 31, 2023, 10:38:10 AM |
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I have never DM:ed you, ever. However, I did make a mistake when creating a flag as you say because I have never done it before and I apologized for creating confusion in the flag thread-thing. I can really admit that I don’t know how that really works.
I'm sorry, my mistake. I checked my inbox afterwards, actually, cicadasTR contacted me because of your wrongly placed flag using his case. The last time I remember I had a conversation where I realized betnomi.com and betnomi.bet are two different software. They said they own both but here we are focusing on betnomi.com which is the brand advertised on this forum. obviously GekkeBelg is trying to login to betnomi.com and our sportsbook in the topic is betnomi.com too
It seems to me that it is the same owner. In addition to the post that Mahdirakib found, looking at the DNS history, both domains are registered with the same provider GoDaddy, plus they have very close updates in a short period of time. Also, the domains are directed to different Cloudflare servers and it is quite possible that they work independently. But these are not proofs, just guesses.
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July 31, 2023, 02:10:56 PM Merited by Mahdirakib (1) |
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1. Create flags. 2. Post all flags in one comment so that everyone can find it easily to support or if they want to oppose.
Sadly we are dealing with some completely newbies who don't have any idea how this flag system works or even how to create one. @Stayzor, answering you in this post, not in the PM because let's help someone else too who doesn't know how to do the same. You want to create a flag against the account betnomi[1.] You will need to create a topic [scam accusation topic] where you will provide as many evidence as you can and describe your case. Scam accusation guideline https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0[2.] Go to betnomi trust page. Profile ---------------> Trust : You are here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2532772Scroll down and look for a link text called "add a flag" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=2532772[3.] Everything else are self explaining. If you find me not responding you quickly, you can just leave your questions for everyone. Many will show you how to do a flag properly.
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