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[suchmoon]

G-blade review + review of GAWminers cloud scrypt hosting by me - http://fuk.io/gridseed-g-blade-vs-gawminers-cloud-hosting-comparision-and-review/

Oh dear. Everyone's a journalist now, even those who would fail a 3rd grade spelling test (and don't know what the squiggly red line means). Lack of clue about the subject apparently is a prerequisite too.

Putting my nice guy hat on, maybe English isn't his first language?

English is not my first language either

There are spell/grammar checkers as well as old-school proofreading, no excuse to slaughter the language like that.

[brian_23452]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

Ide like to know this too.  I emailed them but they never responded.

Not at the moment. Gridseed it at my door, literally, every day for us to start buying again.

But I will not, until they honor their commitment to reimburse our customers.

It stinks, but if someone does not make a stand, they will keep doing it

Have to say it's a shame they are being dicks about it as I thought the blade was a good product, but it's good to see someone taking a stand against their shitty business practices. 

[xxlag]

Going dark for a while. Heading to Alaska then on to Iceland for Project Prime

So hosting is back, but can you explain something?

Week 1 Fury unhosted is $169.95

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

That's $50 more for hosting.  But on your page you also say there is a 2.5% fee for hosting.  So you're charging an extra $50 as well as taking fees?  Did updates cross one another or something in regards to the site pricing and terms for hosting?  Doing the math @ $0.10/kWh means it'll cost less than $15 to host a Fury for the year power-wise, exact numbers being $14.60, whereas the 2.5% fee will collect $14.40 (using current LTC diff + pricing for everything).  So for hosting the price is really, over the course of one year, $219.95 + the 2.5% fee, so $234.35.

Is that right?  Since Josh is heading to the land of the elves can someone else at GAW comment on this?

+1

I asked the same question.
If you already pay a fee of 2.5% for hosting, there's no reason for price difference.

+3

Same Here.

Hi, the price is what it is to cover our cost. First, we would need to charge about 8% to cover our back haul, power, staff, and building to cover out cost. Second, we also have to add a controller to each of these, which also have cost.

Best case, we break even on the cost they are now. Our board did not want to offer them as hosted, but I like the idea of offering a small hosted product for folks that don't have much money to spend.

Yeah, we got it, but the essence of the problem is a fact there is a new lower price price for hosted miners BEFORE they even start to work. I hope you undestand and will keep your word about crediting ealier buyers instead of following stinky "chinese business model"

[XxEnigmaticxX]

I have to say I love GAW. our relationship might have gotten off to a rocky start but between their Customer Care reps and their CEO Josh i am a very happy camper. i currently own 2 blades and they are hashing away with no issues and just as advertised. i do have one complaint about GAW and that is that i don't have enough money to buy more hardware. Keep up the great work Josh.

P.S. Im the current Queue Coordinator at my call center, if your looking for hardworking and call center manager i would love to send you out my resume.

[sminer2014]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

Ide like to know this too.  I emailed them but they never responded.

Not at the moment. Gridseed it at my door, literally, every day for us to start buying again.

But I will not, until they honor their commitment to reimburse our customers.

It stinks, but if someone does not make a stand, they will keep doing it

Have to say it's a shame they are being dicks about it as I thought the blade was a good product, but it's good to see someone taking a stand against their shitty business practices. 

It is a great product, and at the time price was decent, because of no competitor. This mining hobby is getting to expensive for me. Loss several $K in GPU and now more on Blades. Could of made a trip to Vegas and play one hand of Black Jack

[cryptodevil]

I hope you undestand and will keep your word about crediting ealier buyers instead of following stinky "chinese business model"

What is 'stinky' about trading with the Chinese? GAW trade with them and plenty of buyers of A2's trade with them.

I'm increasingly concerned about the degree of xenophobia and outright racism that is casually thrown about in trade threads. Much of it appears to come from those flag-waving 'patriots' for whom anything outside of their national border is treated as some foreign third-world nation that just needs to 'be like them'.

In my experience with dealing with the Chinese I have found them to be trustworthy and reasonable. They might not have the 'western' gloss and finish to their shop-front that you are used to, but if you wanted to be scrypt mining on 28nm ASICS before anyone else had even shipped, they were delivering in spades.

[philipma1957]

Until the new Zeus stuff hits the public and we can do a proper comparison it's tough to say what is "best".  There's also things like rejects, error rate, etc., that can make a small power difference negligible.

Yes I agree.  So far the only long term good watt per hash info is on gridseeds.

I also have not seen a lot to suggest that the new gear is a lot better.


 So if I do 10mh with 290 watts with gridseeds clocked to 850freq.   With very little rejects  99% or better good.  

And I do this.  with my 5 chip gridseeds 

I need to do  10mh 200watts with the new gear and 99%  or better good hash rate.

   So far there has been not a lot of info to show if this is the case.     Like you say time will tell.

If may turn out that gridseeds are still viable if the price is good.

for those that can get them for 60, it's still a very good option, and a present one !

I have been buying sets of 2 for 120.   I am  very happy to do so.

i want some of that but dont qualify for that pricing

Send me a pm   I may be able to help you with a few.

[brian_23452]

I hope you undestand and will keep your word about crediting ealier buyers instead of following stinky "chinese business model"

What is 'stinky' about trading with the Chinese? GAW trade with them and plenty of buyers of A2's trade with them.

I'm increasingly concerned about the degree of xenophobia and outright racism that is casually thrown about in trade threads. Much of it appears to come from those flag-waving 'patriots' for whom anything outside of their national border is treated as some foreign third-world nation that just needs to 'be like them'.

In my experience with dealing with the Chinese I have found them to be trustworthy and reasonable. They might not have the 'western' gloss and finish to their shop-front that you are used to, but if you wanted to be scrypt mining on 28nm ASICS before anyone else had even shipped, they were delivering in spades.

If you read what was written you would see you answered your own question. 

[cryptodevil]

Original post removed due to erroneous interpretation.

But, still, 2800W GAW? We're not mining Bitcoins here!

[RockDaddy]

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

Holy crap! How are you justifying these figures GAW? I pay $225 for a whole month of hosting an A2 90!

Before the fan-boys jump all over me and complain that I'm saying negative things about their favourite vendor, stop for a moment will you and actually think about what numbers you are so over the moon about.

I'm a customer/investor/mug for a number of pre-order and available miners from a number of different suppliers, I'd like to be able to widen that investment net, but I am finding GAW's figures to be shockingly bad. I'd just like to know if they're going to address this or, to be honest, they'd just like to continue as they are and for people like me to stop mentioning the war(machine).

It almost sounds like your thinking it costs 219 for a week 1 is the cost of hosting or something.  Don't misunderstand what that is before you comment. 

[cryptodevil]

Oh, ok, my bad in that case.

I read it as 1 week hosting fee.

[philipma1957]

Original post removed due to erroneous interpretation.

But, still, 2800W GAW? We're not mining Bitcoins here!

Scale out or scale up.  I'd rather a rack of Widows than a BigGun personally, but for folks who have the power availability having a single unit to monitor is much easier than a group.

yeah running 30 five chip  gridseed units   is a lot harder then it sounds.


  just like running 150 antminer usb sticks  is harder then 2  antminer s-1's

[Ktulu1]

Looks like Paypal is back as a payment method. Are we not doing the Paypal refund thing? Did I miss something?

[AtomicFrost]

Looks like Paypal is back as a payment method. Are we not doing the Paypal refund thing? Did I miss something?

That's a good question. Maybe GAW and PayPal hugged it out?    

I'd be fine with our old PayPal pre-orders still being valid, but an official announcement would be great. I was thinking of placing another order soon, but if PayPal is really a valid payment option I'd most likely use that.


Also, just like everyone else on here I'd really like to help beta test Project Prime.  

[tom14cat14]

Looks like Paypal is back as a payment method. Are we not doing the Paypal refund thing? Did I miss something?

That's a good question. Maybe GAW and PayPal hugged it out?    

I'd be fine with our old PayPal pre-orders still being valid, but an official announcement would be great. I was thinking of placing another order soon, but if PayPal is really a valid payment option I'd most likely use that.


Also, just like everyone else on here I'd really like to help beta test Project Prime.  

He said he was on his way out of the country so it might be a little bit before he say anything.

[volder]

Looks like Paypal is back as a payment method. Are we not doing the Paypal refund thing? Did I miss something?

That's a good question. Maybe GAW and PayPal hugged it out?    

I'd be fine with our old PayPal pre-orders still being valid, but an official announcement would be great. I was thinking of placing another order soon, but if PayPal is really a valid payment option I'd most likely use that.


Also, just like everyone else on here I'd really like to help beta test Project Prime.  

PayPal orders are working again. GAW just switched paypal accounts. I don't know the status of paypal refunds. As of yesterday, Josh said they were still coming.

[RavenX]

Going dark for a while. Heading to Alaska then on to Iceland for Project Prime

So hosting is back, but can you explain something?

Week 1 Fury unhosted is $169.95

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

That's $50 more for hosting.  But on your page you also say there is a 2.5% fee for hosting.  So you're charging an extra $50 as well as taking fees?  Did updates cross one another or something in regards to the site pricing and terms for hosting?  Doing the math @ $0.10/kWh means it'll cost less than $15 to host a Fury for the year power-wise, exact numbers being $14.60, whereas the 2.5% fee will collect $14.40 (using current LTC diff + pricing for everything).  So for hosting the price is really, over the course of one year, $219.95 + the 2.5% fee, so $234.35.

Is that right?  Since Josh is heading to the land of the elves can someone else at GAW comment on this?

+1

I asked the same question.
If you already pay a fee of 2.5% for hosting, there's no reason for price difference.

+3

Same Here.

Hi, the price is what it is to cover our cost. First, we would need to charge about 8% to cover our back haul, power, staff, and building to cover out cost. Second, we also have to add a controller to each of these, which also have cost.

Best case, we break even on the cost they are now. Our board did not want to offer them as hosted, but I like the idea of offering a small hosted product for folks that don't have much money to spend.

Thx Josh.

Say to your "board":

1) If it was not for hosted Fury, I'd hadn't bought anything from GAW by now (I have 3 of them).

2) As you said, I hadn't how to afford other more expensive miner at this moment.

3) Even if I had the money, as this was my first purchase, having a cheaper option is good for customers that want to "fell" the company before putting some significant money on it. Like "let me try with a few bucks and if everything goes fine I put some more".

4) Regarding items 2 and 3, that's why upgrade options for hosted miners will be necessary. So we can invest what we can right now and not wait months to amass more money, as well as getting trust in the company.

[GAW Miners_CEO]

Looks like Paypal is back as a payment method. Are we not doing the Paypal refund thing? Did I miss something?

That's a good question. Maybe GAW and PayPal hugged it out?    

I'd be fine with our old PayPal pre-orders still being valid, but an official announcement would be great. I was thinking of placing another order soon, but if PayPal is really a valid payment option I'd most likely use that.


Also, just like everyone else on here I'd really like to help beta test Project Prime.  

PayPal orders are working again. GAW just switched paypal accounts. I don't know the status of paypal refunds. As of yesterday, Josh said they were still coming.

Sorry guys we are still hashing things out with paypal (no pun intended )

They are quick to question btc companies, and slow to release the money.

At this point we are looking at the refunds going out tomorrow.

The guys that that handle this are "off of work " today

I am just getting off the plane, so I will get back to the rest of the questions later today

[SDRebel]

can anyone that bought fury wtih CCs report if they got any refunds?

[milesbitcoin]

Sorry Guys, but getting a little frustrated. Purchased a week two Falcon through Paypal on May 7th. It is now may 18th and we still have no refunds to paypal orders. I intend to upgrade my order to a week one falcon and week one fury just for fun. Although we are getting really close to the 26th.

Spoke with Josiah by phone yesterday and was informed that all paypal refunds were to be processed yesterday (May 17th) and would take 2 to 3 business days to hit my bank. Was told that I could NOT be issued store credit. Now I am reading that the refunds haven't been processed and will be done Monday (May 19th).

What exactly is going to happen with Paypal Orders (Refunds? Credits?)

I admit this whole things is probably outside of GAW's control, but someone has to decide what is going to happen. Rather just have the money refunded, rather than waiting to see how things play out with paypal.