Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[Zackgeno96]

Feyenoord had been champions for a long time, maybe that's why they suffered the 2nd defeat of the entire season, there was nothing more at stake. Xavi Simons saved PSV and because of him they now play Cl. But it was also a good year for PSV, won the cup, won the super cup and placed 2nd and therefore qualified for the CL. it didn't matter much if Ajax should have played the Conefgrence league. They will still be somewhat relieved at Ajax, but how can you be relieved when you finish 3rd and have not won any prizes at all? Feyenord is undoubtedly the big winner, And arne slot also remains. A top result in all respects.

yes, Ajax will somehow be relieved with a 3rd place, although they now miss the qualification for the CL. Surely that should also be a reason for players to look for another club for next season? If Heitinga stays head coach, then we can be pretty sure things won't get much better for next season. You will have to get someone with the necessary experience, who knows how to build a good team with good players. I don't think Louis van Gaal is interested in coaching Ajax again. Arne Slot at Feyenoord, that is the basis for a new and perhaps even more successful season than it has been the last 2 seasons.

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[Mr.suevie]

Unexpectedly, we still get an exciting final round in the battle for places 2, 3 and 4. It could be that Ajax will still play conference League and PSV is lucky that it still managed a 3-3 draw to obtain. So the cards have not yet been shuffled for the next round, the final game. PSV does have a tough opponent in the form of AZ, which was eliminated this week in the conference league. Ajax to the conference league, that would be a big failure for the club and the end for van der Sar as general manager?

If PSV lose to AZ and Ajax win, Ajax could even finish second, but Ajax could also finish fourth if AZ win and Ajax lose. So a very exciting last round in the Eredivisie. Nobody expected that in the last round so much is possible, Ajax from second to fourth place everything is possible.

Conferece league would be a disappointment for Ajax in any case, even if the chances to win it would be high.

The last game of the eredivise was really quite interesting although the results were rather shocking as teams who needed a vital win all failed to do so. And one lucky team would be ajax as they managed to end the season with a third place finish which is unlike them because of the grip they have on that league. AZ was unlucky they had to loose and end up with just a fourth place result.

[casperBGD]

interesting last round, and PSV secured their CL spot with a win over AZ, that came in overtime
Ajax lost to Twente, even a win would not mean much since PSV won, but they were losing before PSV scored, and Twente was solid today

Feyenoord failed to win last match at home, but they are celebrating a title after all, congrats

[Zackgeno96]

interesting last round, and PSV secured their CL spot with a win over AZ, that came in overtime
Ajax lost to Twente, even a win would not mean much since PSV won, but they were losing before PSV scored, and Twente was solid today

Feyenoord failed to win last match at home, but they are celebrating a title after all, congrats

So you see how unstable all clubs are in the top of the premier league. Ajax took a 0-1 lead relatively quickly, and after fifteen minutes in the second half they were 2-1 behind. When it became 3-1 it was completely played of course. Playing the Europa League is perhaps where Ajax belongs, this Ajax team would take a hard beating in the CL, so maybe it's good that they can grow in the EL. And who will be the new trainer? Continuing on the current footing is absolutely not an option for Ajax. I think that van der Sar should also leave and bringing Overmars back would be good for the club. but does he really want it?

[LTU_btc]

interesting last round, and PSV secured their CL spot with a win over AZ, that came in overtime
Ajax lost to Twente, even a win would not mean much since PSV won, but they were losing before PSV scored, and Twente was solid today

Feyenoord failed to win last match at home, but they are celebrating a title after all, congrats

Feyenoord loss isn't surprising, they're in part mode already, we saw similar things happening in other leagues too. Twent 3:1 Ajax, resultthat doesn't reflect game, Ajax wasn't that bad, but who cares when you lose game 3:1. Sad ending of terrible season for Ajax.
PSV managed to win game and secure place in CL, despite that they had just 10 men on pitch in final minutes after El Ghazi was sent off. Great performance by Xavi Simmons who scored 2 goals. 1st his goal is really beautiful, especially that de Jong assist.
So, now only playoffs for UEFA spots and promotion playoffs is remaining this season.

[Docnaster]

interesting last round, and PSV secured their CL spot with a win over AZ, that came in overtime
Ajax lost to Twente, even a win would not mean much since PSV won, but they were losing before PSV scored, and Twente was solid today

Feyenoord failed to win last match at home, but they are celebrating a title after all, congrats

Feyenoord loss isn't surprising, they're in part mode already, we saw similar things happening in other leagues too. Twent 3:1 Ajax, resultthat doesn't reflect game, Ajax wasn't that bad, but who cares when you lose game 3:1. Sad ending of terrible season for Ajax.
PSV managed to win game and secure place in CL, despite that they had just 10 men on pitch in final minutes after El Ghazi was sent off. Great performance by Xavi Simmons who scored 2 goals. 1st his goal is really beautiful, especially that de Jong assist.
So, now only playoffs for UEFA spots and promotion playoffs is remaining this season.

You don't expect Feyenoord to play at the top of their strength when they have already secured the Dutch League title. PSV fought to the end to make sure they qualify for next season's UEFA Champions League football at the expense if Ajax
Ajax won't be playing champions league football next season and surely they're gonna feel so bad about it but that's football anyway. Sometimes results comes in contrary of the actual performance in the game.

[Sirait]

You don't expect Feyenoord to play at the top of their strength when they have already secured the Dutch League title. PSV fought to the end to make sure they qualify for next season's UEFA Champions League football at the expense if Ajax
Ajax won't be playing champions league football next season and surely they're gonna feel so bad about it but that's football anyway. Sometimes results comes in contrary of the actual performance in the game.

In the last match that was held by Feyenoord, they performed badly and had to lose 1-0 to Vitesse, so I'm not so sure about the stability of Feyenoord in the UCL later, while PSV managed to narrowly win over Alkmaar with a score of 2-1 and were lucky to get UCL ticket on next season. for ajax, they have to surrender to the ranking they achieved in the standings, there is still a chance next season.

[Volgastallion]

AZ cant take profit from the Ajax lost, i know they play against PSV but, the chance was there.

Az now waits for the playoff final.

Well now next season awaits, lets see what he have between his hands.

[Docnaster]

Feyenoord had been champions for a long time, maybe that's why they suffered the 2nd defeat of the entire season, there was nothing more at stake. Xavi Simons saved PSV and because of him they now play Cl. But it was also a good year for PSV, won the cup, won the super cup and placed 2nd and therefore qualified for the CL. it didn't matter much if Ajax should have played the Conefgrence league. They will still be somewhat relieved at Ajax, but how can you be relieved when you finish 3rd and have not won any prizes at all? Feyenord is undoubtedly the big winner, And arne slot also remains. A top result in all respects.

yes, Ajax will somehow be relieved with a 3rd place, although they now miss the qualification for the CL. Surely that should also be a reason for players to look for another club for next season? If Heitinga stays head coach, then we can be pretty sure things won't get much better for next season. You will have to get someone with the necessary experience, who knows how to build a good team with good players. I don't think Louis van Gaal is interested in coaching Ajax again. Arne Slot at Feyenoord, that is the basis for a new and perhaps even more successful season than it has been the last 2 seasons.

Ajax is the most popular Dutch team among football fans all over the world. Losing out on their pursuit to finish the season in the top two position of the Dutch League means they won't be playing I nthe UEFA Champions League and that I think will sure affect some of their players decision to stay and play for the badge of the club or leave to clubs that'll offer champions league football.
Whatever happens in the summer, Ajax will surely bounce back to where they belong come next season and that only will be possible if they sort out the main issues that stopped the club from winning a major trophy this season and fix them

[Koal-84]

Nothing changed in the last round, neither Ajax nor AZ could win. I wouldn't have expected such a poor performance from Ajax, but even the win wouldn't have changed anything, as PSV also won. All in all, a disappointing season for Ajax.

Ajax have to change a lot for the next season.

[Slow death]

The bad comments about ajax have not given rest:

Ajax miss UCL after suffering worst finish in 14 years after Erik ten Hag's departure | ESPN FC



Edwin van der Sar quits as Ajax director after disappointing season

it's a fact that ajax won't go to the champions league, i even at the beginning thought it wasn't necessary to make much drama about this very sad event, but it's hard not to make a lot of drama about it when even in the last one ajax just went humiliatingly defeated, if the fans were already trying to forget that ajax did not do well this season they were forced to have to remember that because ajax lost in their last game and it was a game in which they conceded 3 goals and only managed score only one goal

ajax player hurt fan:

Ajax player Berghuis gives a bystander a firm blow at the abandoned FC Twente stadium | Football

and next we have this: 

Ajax fines Steven Berghuis for hitting a fan after season-ending loss

clearly this poor performance has affected everyone in the team, but the question now is to think about correcting the mistakes next season, ajax need to hire some good coach and players if they want to get back to being as strong as they were in the past, and honestly that will not be a task easy, I say that because ajax had already built an image in people of being a team that constantly scored a lot of goals, ajax was like bayern in the bundesliga, these teams hardly played and the bookmakers put odds of @ 1.40 on the market over 2.5 goals, so any coach who is in charge of ajax feels pressure, because if he is not able to bring good results

and he is not able to make the team score many goals then he will be fired, the fans will ask him to be fired, that's why the ajax board needs to be very careful when hiring a coach, Johnny Heitinga did what he could for the team, but anyone can see that ajax needs a great coach

[shogun47]

Ajax is the most popular Dutch team among football fans all over the world. Losing out on their pursuit to finish the season in the top two position of the Dutch League means they won't be playing I nthe UEFA Champions League and that I think will sure affect some of their players decision to stay and play for the badge of the club or leave to clubs that'll offer champions league football.
Whatever happens in the summer, Ajax will surely bounce back to where they belong come next season and that only will be possible if they sort out the main issues that stopped the club from winning a major trophy this season and fix them

This is a major risk for the smaller leagues in particular. I think with Feyenoord and PSV Eindhoven they are still well represented, but for a club like Ajax to not have the possibility to present themselves in the Champions League is a big disadvantage especially since they bring out a lot of young talents who then could quickly decide against staying with Ajax.

They also have much less money to offer if they only play in the Europa League. It is about 1/4th if you compare Europa League to the Champions League prize money and that is quite significant for Ajax. Maybe we are seeing a shit in the Eredivisie now and Feyenoord and PSV will take the lead in the future as well.

[casperBGD]

we have play-offs tomorrow, first matches
Utrecht is playing Sparta at home, and should get a win, but overall it will be a tough duel that can go on any side to reach finals

Twente is a bit of favorite against Heerenveen, even in first match, and especially to pass into finals, but they should be careful to retain their game until the end, goals are probably better choice than going for Twente in first match

[Swordsoffreedom]

Nothing changed in the last round, neither Ajax nor AZ could win. I wouldn't have expected such a poor performance from Ajax, but even the win wouldn't have changed anything, as PSV also won. All in all, a disappointing season for Ajax.

Ajax have to change a lot for the next season.

We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.

[Koal-84]

We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.

Ajax were simply not as dominant as in previous years and conceded too many goals, especially in the crucial games, such as against PSV. They conceded twice as many goals as last season, you can't win the championship like that, especially Feyenoord having a great season.

Things are happening at Ajax and they know they need to strengthen their defence and they will invest in that i think. Next season could be another three-way battle for the title, but can Feyenoord produce a second outstanding season?

[Swordsoffreedom]

We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.

Ajax were simply not as dominant as in previous years and conceded too many goals, especially in the crucial games, such as against PSV. They conceded twice as many goals as last season, you can't win the championship like that, especially Feyenoord having a great season.
Things are happening at Ajax and they know they need to strengthen their defence and they will invest in that i think. Next season could be another three-way battle for the title, but can Feyenoord produce a second outstanding season?

Ajax and PSV have been somewhat weaker this season than in previous seasons. Their performance was quite erratic. The start of the season saw Ajax drop points in several matches and fall far behind. And Feyenoord's performance was very consistent. Feyenoord have been able to win the title thanks to their consistent performance. However, the Eredivisie league is expected to be more competitive in the coming season. Along with Ajax and PSV, Feyenoord will also fight for the title. And so the possibility of Ajax's dominance in the next season seems less likely to me.

[dezoel]

We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.

Ajax were simply not as dominant as in previous years and conceded too many goals, especially in the crucial games, such as against PSV. They conceded twice as many goals as last season, you can't win the championship like that, especially Feyenoord having a great season.

Things are happening at Ajax and they know they need to strengthen their defence and they will invest in that i think. Next season could be another three-way battle for the title, but can Feyenoord produce a second outstanding season?

There is no doubt about Ajax failure in this season and their worst performance in last 14 years as well but here we need to check few ground realities as well which will give us better view about this result with hopefully things will be better in future even now situation is very tough because Feyenoord will keep this momentum and PSV and Ajax have to increase their quality if they want to have better results.

Ajax lost coach and few top quality players to Manchester United in early weeks of this season and from here things gone in wrong way even they have done good, but this was surely not as par fans were expecting now they have enough funds which can allow them for having better results and good coach as well which can bring better things in future.

Now in near future, we will have improvement in few other teams as well as AZ Alkmaar which is also trying their best for better results and surely now with this challenge could be tough and competition is not going to easy for them as well.

[LTU_btc]

Twente made serious step in first leg beating Heerenveen away 1:2. It should be painful for Heerenveen to concede goal 93rd minute, now their task becomes very difficult.
While Sparta made little upset by beating Utrecht away, also 1:2. They were even leading 0:2 and Utrecht scored their goal only in 2nd half. IMO, result don't reflect game much, Utrecht had more chances today. But taking whole season picture, Sparta had very solid season and it would be interesting if they would get chance to play in Conference league.
2nd leg games will be played very soon, on Saturday already.

[Koal-84]

There is no doubt about Ajax failure in this season and their worst performance in last 14 years as well but here we need to check few ground realities as well which will give us better view about this result with hopefully things will be better in future even now situation is very tough because Feyenoord will keep this momentum and PSV and Ajax have to increase their quality if they want to have better results.

Ajax lost coach and few top quality players to Manchester United in early weeks of this season and from here things gone in wrong way even they have done good, but this was surely not as par fans were expecting now they have enough funds which can allow them for having better results and good coach as well which can bring better things in future.

The departures in the winter at Ajax were too much, as you write, key players and coache. Somehow I had the feeling that the Ajax management was sure they could easily get through it, they were a bit arrogant and thought Ajax could easily compensate, but then it wasn't so. Of course they earned over 100 million, but the Champions League start with > 20 million has not been achieved.

[BitcoinAccepted]

The biggest victory for Feyenoord is that the trainer will stay. He could still go Spurs but then you don't play CL. How good is Feyenorod if they play in the CL? I think they might be the favorites to win the new title in the league, but who will straighten things out at Ajax next season? A difficult task for any trainer. There are not many people who can help Ajax out in this position. In any case, Heitinga is leaving.