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[ryzaadit]

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No worry.

Good luck with the journey, hoping you are getting a good section. Don't chase rank to much, better to make at least your balance survive daily. Rank can be chased latter, but money/balance not.

Hope you find the momentum.

[MAAManda]

Good luck with the journey, hoping you are getting a good section. Don't chase rank to much, better to make at least your balance survive daily. Rank can be chased latter, but money/balance not.

Yeah, rank will give you no profit (only the advantages are more than just being a normal user without VIP), the goal of making a profit should be the top priority in the pipeline. I have 1 more question about your achievement being at the advanced VIP level at BK8, where do you play more? Sportsbook, Slots or Live Casino? and when it comes to Live Casino, do you use the martingale strategy to make your balance last?

[panjul07]

I have 1 more question about your achievement being at the advanced VIP level at BK8, where do you play more? Sportsbook, Slots or Live Casino? and when it comes to Live Casino, do you use the martingale strategy to make your balance last?

As long as I know he is a gambler who love to play Live Casino most of the time, he shared some big wins in live casino games several times in this forum.
I have never seen him shared big wins in slot games or sportsbook, he may play these games as well but not as much as live casino games IMO.

Found it last night, thanks for at least responding to my question. BTW, I made a deposit of around $50 and won $35 on Blackjack, then made a withdrawal and made another deposit (as you said). Lucky me on my second deposit I won $60. I think by choosing the right momentum and not rushing, I will be in VIP Bronze as soon as possible.

Just dont force yourself to follow the strategy from him or any other gambler, play with your own style and with your own strategy is always better.
Chasing VIP level should not be the main priority to reach in gambling as it will be useless if we can reach VIP level but we are in big negative while trying to reach it.

[ryzaadit]

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Correct, maybe just wait they change the resetting system progress for "VIP"

I still don't like the reset system progress by only give people 1 month only for rank up VIP. It's hard to do it for people like us, I hope while they want a reset system progress they do it with condition (only the account are not played/betting anything for more than 2-3 month).

So, we can save our progress and possible to rank up.

[delfastTions]

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Found it last night, thanks for at least responding to my question. BTW, I made a deposit of around $50 and won $35 on Blackjack, then made a withdrawal and made another deposit (as you said). Lucky me on my second deposit I won $60. I think by choosing the right momentum and not rushing, I will be in VIP Bronze as soon as possible.

Just dont force yourself to follow the strategy from him or any other gambler, play with your own style and with your own strategy is always better.
Chasing VIP level should not be the main priority to reach in gambling as it will be useless if we can reach VIP level but we are in big negative while trying to reach it.

Completely agree with your statement !

When a player plays certain games long enough, one might say, approaches the professional level in this game, he obviously develops his own game marker and strategy. 
And here it is important not to listen to advice and not change the strategy, evenk despite all the advice of players who position themselves as very strong professionals. Some of them, of course, hide their strategies (and rightly so!), but there are also those who advertise their strategies and methods. 
And after that, if you use such strategies, there is a high probability that you yourself will ruin your game.  So at a high level of professionalism or approching it, you need to strictly follow only your own skills and methods in the game.

[hd49728]

And after that, if you use such strategies, there is a high probability that you yourself will ruin your game.  So at a high level of professionalism or approching it, you need to strictly follow only your own skills and methods in the game.

With whatever strategy you use and believe it is good and profitable, you should not bet all money because gambling is a game of probability. You can consider yourself as a professional gambler and being strongly confident with it, probability to lose with one bet always exists. Even the probability of loss is 1%, if it hits that 1%, you will lose all money.

I know you are professional to know about it and manage risk. I write this one to warn newbies and hopefully they won't bet all money for anything like in one match, one trade and whatever. Hopefully newbie gamblers will be save, to survive and to get profit from gambling.

[MAAManda]

Just dont force yourself to follow the strategy from him or any other gambler, play with your own style and with your own strategy is always better.
Chasing VIP level should not be the main priority to reach in gambling as it will be useless if we can reach VIP level but we are in big negative while trying to reach it.

How can I not force myself to follow other people's strategies whereas if I play with my own style, I will definitely lose, LOL. For now I prefer to see and hear about how other people win, I'm a greedy gambler, so it would be better if I follow someone else's strategy, that's it. And about the VIP, of course it won't be the top priority, because that's what I will achieve with time. As @ryzaadit said, it's better to make survival balance a priority, because that's the key to reach VIP.

[ryzaadit]

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We all know, in Indonesia people have a few people who have high rank not only here but also other casino.

Each of us have their own main gaim, example for me Live-casino (more often to play on these). Meanwhile other people like @Panjul or @roycilik and other have high rank by playing on slot.

Just follow your own gameplay style use other people reference for your gameplay.

[MAAManda]

Each of us have their own main gaim, example for me Live-casino (more often to play on these). Meanwhile other people like @Panjul or @roycilik and other have high rank by playing on slot.

Yeah, I know and aware of that, but you haven't answered my previous question . Do you use the martingale strategy to keep your balance alive? what's more, you play at a Live-Casino, which in fact is easier to implement this strategy. Or maybe you're just looking for the right momentum without caring about the martingale strategy?

[ryzaadit]

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My martingale only for winning (to maximize my winning).

That's means, I'm not martingale on losing but on winning. Once, I got a momentum streak to win I can easily win a lot in a short time. It's hard to get a good section, just like 1:10. To many lose section.

That's why, I always want to maximize the good momentum.

[zuzie]

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My martingale only for winning (to maximize my winning).

That's means, I'm not martingale on losing but on winning. Once, I got a momentum streak to win I can easily win a lot in a short time. It's hard to get a good section, just like 1:10. To many lose section.

That's why, I always want to maximize the good momentum.

I've seen you use this method and get big wins on a low balance. I wonder if you use this method when you get a free balance or bonus if you use a personal balance, do you use another method? I myself will be more careful when using a personal balance and yes it prevents me from getting big wins but if I got bonus balance then my game more risky if I'm lucky I can get a big win.

[ryzaadit]

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Free or not.

I still use it, however for free-balance is just for our feeling (more relax) rather than using your deposit balance. Because is free, you don't have guilty while losing it on the process meanwhile with deposit money you have guilty while losing.

IMO, even you are using personal balance just make sure you are on hot fire. If you thing double (2x) are higher from your perspective, tried for 1,5x so your losing are not gonna to much for the bankroll.

[slapper]

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Free or not.

I still use it, however for free-balance is just for our feeling (more relax) rather than using your deposit balance. Because is free, you don't have guilty while losing it on the process meanwhile with deposit money you have guilty while losing.

IMO, even you are using personal balance just make sure you are on hot fire. If you thing double (2x) are higher from your perspective, tried for 1,5x so your losing are not gonna to much for the bankroll.

The Martingale strategy is undeniable attractive – a mathematical model that promises winnings in the long run. But it's essential to keep in mind the potential pitfalls of such a high-risk method. Using a bonus or free balance for Martingale is, as you put it, more relaxed. There is less emotional attachment to free funds, leading to riskier plays. However, should we encourage such reckless behavior? I'd argue against it. Even if it's bonus money, responsible gambling should be the mantra. When it comes to your own balance, I concur, extreme caution is warranted. The suggested 1.5x instead of 2x bet is a good approach to keep losses in check. Remember, the objective is not just to win, but to stay in the game. Bankroll management is key! Good luck, bro

[ryzaadit]

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Well, I can make sure you.

Once you got a streak-winning momentum, your lose from a previous lose can get back faster rather than playing normally. The only problem with the martingale on winning system are (always losing or win lose win lose).

However, once you get a winning streak. IMO your bad section from the past 15-20days can be recovered in just one section, that section.

[MAAManda]

My martingale only for winning (to maximize my winning).

That's means, I'm not martingale on losing but on winning. Once, I got a momentum streak to win I can easily win a lot in a short time. It's hard to get a good section, just like 1:10. To many lose section.

That's why, I always want to maximize the good momentum.

Very different from the experiences of the people I asked about this strategy, from the several people I asked, they admitted that they did this martingale strategy every time they played at a live-casino, not just when they won (the balance is in profit). I also do the same as them and just won around IDR 200 today on BK8 (with martingale).

[MAAManda]

How do you use a martingale strategy on winning instead of losing 

Do you ask me or @ryzaadit?

It's true that basically conservative martingale strategy is implemented when you are losing, and when you have won, the we'll return to the base bet. Hey, I haven't seen you before on this topic, are you a BK8 user too? if yes, what do you like most about BK8? slots or live-casino?

[ryzaadit]

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Martingale on winning, is for people who are trying to make the game more volatility.

However, once you have a good section at least you can win a 6-7x streak. I can make sure, your lost from 7-20 days can be recovery is just a short time. You need to make sure ready to lose.

It's just like chasing only one good section and you can get win big. I doing these, once you get the momentum after the momentum over just play back again with normal.

[Blitzboy]

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Martingale on winning, is for people who are trying to make the game more volatility.

However, once you have a good section at least you can win a 6-7x streak. I can make sure, your lost from 7-20 days can be recovery is just a short time. You need to make sure ready to lose.

It's just like chasing only one good section and you can get win big. I doing these, once you get the momentum after the momentum over just play back again with normal.

Your suggestion to utilize a martingale methodology on successful outcomes rather than failures is indeed thought-provoking, yet isn't it fraught with hazards? If I'm mistaken, please correct me, but it seems to me that such an approach amplifies your risk exposure considerably. Certainly, you could achieve a series of 6-7 wins, but what if luck doesn't side with you? The fallout is losing not just the winnings, but the initial stake as well. It's comparable to trudging uphill with a growing snowball, isn't it? One stumble, and all comes tumbling down! Therefore, while your strategy presents a stimulating high-risk, high-reward scenario, it's equally crucial to handle it with care. If you're conditioned to endure the blow, then by all means, indulge! However, remember, ultimately, the house retains the upper hand.

[MAAManda]

Martingale on winning, is for people who are trying to make the game more volatility.

But is it real? the problem is I've never seen anyone get a winning streak that is beyond expectations, so if you do the martingale strategy when you win, it only increases the possibility of losing. It's true, if we get the momentum to martingale our winning moments, we can even get a big x from our initial balance. But as I said before, it will only increase the possibility of losing.

[ryzaadit]

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If you are talking about "luck"

In the same way, people are doing the average bet. While people betting with normally without any martingale and other think just basic strategy if luck is not on your side. then is the same think.

You're gonna lose the bankroll as well, there is no guarantee in the future. Even you are make a good amount bet, you are still gonna to lose.

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You're talking about chance of winning.

There is no connection between that, your chance are gonna to still same with the game you are playing according to statistic math for the game it self. Example you make a dice bet with 50:50 chance win.

No matter martingale on losing, winning, or normal bet without a raise your chance win is still same. Doing martingale on winner are just sucks your balance more faster than normal bet, but the chance win are same.