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May 16, 2023, 09:44:29 PM
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Did you guys watch the KSI versus Fournier fight? Another controversial ending in the world of boxing and the referee was in a blindside position that's why he didn't catch it. At least one of the judges should tell it to the referee before he counted to 10.
In the first round, Fournier was also complaining about the shot to the back of his head and then the push that made him fall, luckily the referee saw it and didn't count as a knockdown.
Whoever the committee on this fight should really try to review what happened there. It doesn't look like boxing but more like MMA.  Cheesy
And, it could be a dangerous thing that could send Fournier to the hospital because his eyes rolled after dropping on the canvas from an unexpected shot.
KSI now challenging Tommy Fury.
Nope, I think most users are watching Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio and Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, seems like KSI lost it's popularity or he was choose a wrong date.

Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

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May 17, 2023, 07:10:05 PM
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A rematch won't be reasonable enough because KSI did some dirty tricks to Fournier that somehow made him the winner of this bout, if this will be reviewed, I reckon that KSI should be granted a disqualification and the fight will not be listed as valid. This kind of actions should not be taken lightly because Fournier could've been lying right now in the hospital fighting for his own life if he has received a much serious damage.

And for KSI calling and challenging Tommy Fury to fight him next, I doubt that the latter will give him some time nor entertain him after what he has done that gave an embarrassment to the sport.

Well, I think many will agree that it was really the elbow that has done Joe Fournier, yes it should be a disqualification for KSI, but again if the Referee didn't see it it was a clean right hand for KSI, but the announcer was clearly shouting that it was a clean Elbow but in the midst of the fight even JJ or KSI isn't really aware what has already hit Fournier or maybe he is really just denying it, and in the heat of the fight I think he is more surprising that it has happened,

And for calling out Tommy Fury like that I really think that Tommy Fury is a step up for KSI, even for Jake Paul, I just really think that these guys isn't really ready for a Tommy Fury,


Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

If this is true then Casimero will definitely be going to have a hardtime with Fillipus Nghitumbwa but surely the fight has already happened and even though Fillipus Nghitumbwa has already rehydrated the fight has already finished and John Riel Casimero has already won the fight as it should have happened but Casimero having a hard time knocking out Fillipus Nghitumbwa, and regardless of the result of the fight I think the fight is already settled and changing the result into a knockout is not really an option,
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May 17, 2023, 07:47:46 PM
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Did you guys watch the KSI versus Fournier fight? Another controversial ending in the world of boxing and the referee was in a blindside position that's why he didn't catch it. At least one of the judges should tell it to the referee before he counted to 10.
In the first round, Fournier was also complaining about the shot to the back of his head and then the push that made him fall, luckily the referee saw it and didn't count as a knockdown.
Whoever the committee on this fight should really try to review what happened there. It doesn't look like boxing but more like MMA.  Cheesy
And, it could be a dangerous thing that could send Fournier to the hospital because his eyes rolled after dropping on the canvas from an unexpected shot.
KSI now challenging Tommy Fury.
Nope, I think most users are watching Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio and Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, seems like KSI lost it's popularity or he was choose a wrong date.

Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

So if he is that Nghitumbwa whene he rehydrated, it just shows that Casimero has the power to knock down everyone in the division.

And most likely the power is really felt by Akaho that's why he quit against Casimero.  So we will see who is going to be the next opponent of Casimero, I think he can still make a fight before the end of the year? He should be more active again so that he will be just inch closer to another chance at any belt or if he targets WBO as he held the belt at 118 lbs then it's a good strategy as well.
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May 17, 2023, 11:14:08 PM
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Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

It may not be an excuse but still a lot of people were not satisfied with his performance as it may not be enough to beat Naoya moving forward. He may have knocked down Nghitumbwa but were still able to fight back and if Casimero didn't have a good head movement he may have lost this fight. Also, one of the noticeable thing about Casimero is that he looked exhausted after round 6. Clearly he lacks proper conditioning and stamina, these are the most important feature a fighter must posses specially when you're aiming to beat the top elite fighters.

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May 18, 2023, 06:27:15 AM
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Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

It may not be an excuse but still a lot of people were not satisfied with his performance as it may not be enough to beat Naoya moving forward. He may have knocked down Nghitumbwa but were still able to fight back and if Casimero didn't have a good head movement he may have lost this fight. Also, one of the noticeable thing about Casimero is that he looked exhausted after round 6. Clearly he lacks proper conditioning and stamina, these are the most important feature a fighter must posses specially when you're aiming to beat the top elite fighters.

Casimero continues to challenge Inoue while Inoue has no answer. It seems like Inoue is focused on his upcoming fight, and Casimero might not be given an opportunity if Inoue wins the championship. I mean, it's possible for Inoue to fight Casimero and defend his title, but what if he decides to have a unification fight with the other champion? That would leave Casimero with no chance of chasing Inoue.

If Inoue becomes a unified and then undisputed champion, he might move up again.

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May 18, 2023, 06:47:08 AM
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Casimero continues to challenge Inoue while Inoue has no answer. It seems like Inoue is focused on his upcoming fight, and Casimero might not be given an opportunity if Inoue wins the championship. I mean, it's possible for Inoue to fight Casimero and defend his title, but what if he decides to have a unification fight with the other champion? That would leave Casimero with no chance of chasing Inoue.

If Inoue becomes a unified and then undisputed champion, he might move up again.
That's true. So Casimero's dream of fighting Inoue lies in the outcome of the results of his upcoming fight against Fulton. If Inoue loses, he might just get it because I doubt Marlon Tapales would just easily agree with him considering his rank will go down after that defeat. And there's a long line of super bantamweights who want the title so bad so he needs to wait.

But I highly doubt Casimero's performance against Fillipus Nghitumbwa would suffice to defeat Inoue. He better increase his stamina first because he cannot just throw those haymakers and expect it to land as always, plus it's more exhausting if it misses. Casimero definitely has the power punch but fewer jabs will make him lose if ever the fight will turn out in the judges' decision.
I want to see it happen though and just end that long trend about why Inoue is avoiding him.

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May 18, 2023, 07:32:23 AM
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Casimero continues to challenge Inoue while Inoue has no answer. It seems like Inoue is focused on his upcoming fight, and Casimero might not be given an opportunity if Inoue wins the championship. I mean, it's possible for Inoue to fight Casimero and defend his title, but what if he decides to have a unification fight with the other champion? That would leave Casimero with no chance of chasing Inoue.

If Inoue becomes a unified and then undisputed champion, he might move up again.
That's true. So Casimero's dream of fighting Inoue lies in the outcome of the results of his upcoming fight against Fulton. If Inoue loses, he might just get it because I doubt Marlon Tapales would just easily agree with him considering his rank will go down after that defeat. And there's a long line of super bantamweights who want the title so bad so he needs to wait.

But I highly doubt Casimero's performance against Fillipus Nghitumbwa would suffice to defeat Inoue. He better increase his stamina first because he cannot just throw those haymakers and expect it to land as always, plus it's more exhausting if it misses. Casimero definitely has the power punch but fewer jabs will make him lose if ever the fight will turn out in the judges' decision.
I want to see it happen though and just end that long trend about why Inoue is avoiding him.
I agree and even his performance against Nghitumbwa will not be suffice to be challenge rank fighter in my opinion.

Although when I check the rankings now, and if I'm not mistaken, Casimero is rank 8 before his fight and with this win, he bolted to rank 5. So most likely, if I wanted who Casimero should fight next, it could be Luis Nery or Ra'eese Aleem in WBO.

Him and Nery has been calling each other out since Casimero become a champion at 118 lbs and Nery that time was a champion too at 122 lbs. And now that Casimero has move up in weight, it make sense that they can now fight.

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May 18, 2023, 08:06:21 AM
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Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

It may not be an excuse but still a lot of people were not satisfied with his performance as it may not be enough to beat Naoya moving forward. He may have knocked down Nghitumbwa but were still able to fight back and if Casimero didn't have a good head movement he may have lost this fight. Also, one of the noticeable thing about Casimero is that he looked exhausted after round 6. Clearly he lacks proper conditioning and stamina, these are the most important feature a fighter must posses specially when you're aiming to beat the top elite fighters.

Yes, for all we know he might have been underestimating Nghitumbwa and when he bring him down, he thought that the fight is going to be over soon. So he still manage to win though, but as you have said, visibly exhausted Casimero after round 6.

Hopefully him and his camp seen how his performance and for us, it's not good, and he needs to improved especially if in his next fight, he will be going against any top 5 rank boxer in WBO, so that could be a problem for his if he doesn't have a good gas tank to last full 12 rounds.

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May 18, 2023, 08:13:15 AM
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Casimero continues to challenge Inoue while Inoue has no answer. It seems like Inoue is focused on his upcoming fight, and Casimero might not be given an opportunity if Inoue wins the championship. I mean, it's possible for Inoue to fight Casimero and defend his title, but what if he decides to have a unification fight with the other champion? That would leave Casimero with no chance of chasing Inoue.

If Inoue becomes a unified and then undisputed champion, he might move up again.
That's true. So Casimero's dream of fighting Inoue lies in the outcome of the results of his upcoming fight against Fulton. If Inoue loses, he might just get it because I doubt Marlon Tapales would just easily agree with him considering his rank will go down after that defeat. And there's a long line of super bantamweights who want the title so bad so he needs to wait.

But I highly doubt Casimero's performance against Fillipus Nghitumbwa would suffice to defeat Inoue. He better increase his stamina first because he cannot just throw those haymakers and expect it to land as always, plus it's more exhausting if it misses. Casimero definitely has the power punch but fewer jabs will make him lose if ever the fight will turn out in the judges' decision.
I want to see it happen though and just end that long trend about why Inoue is avoiding him.
I agree and even his performance against Nghitumbwa will not be suffice to be challenge rank fighter in my opinion.

Although when I check the rankings now, and if I'm not mistaken, Casimero is rank 8 before his fight and with this win, he bolted to rank 5. So most likely, if I wanted who Casimero should fight next, it could be Luis Nery or Ra'eese Aleem in WBO.

Him and Nery has been calling each other out since Casimero become a champion at 118 lbs and Nery that time was a champion too at 122 lbs. And now that Casimero has move up in weight, it make sense that they can now fight.

It will be nice to see him fight a former champ from this division as it can boost him up if he will manage to win over Nery, the timing is important as there are many fights that may take place before they will negotiate his next fight, we all know that this sport is not just an ordinary one but a business that needs to have a good promoter so everything will be in place.

Skills wise, Casimero needs to keep adding more in enhancing his potentials it's not that far from his last weight and his body already adopts this new one, so better to make complete adjustments both on his speed and his power combinations.

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May 18, 2023, 09:56:11 AM
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After that MF & DAZN X Series 7: KSI vs Joe Fournier event where it ends up in a controversial win on Olajide Olatunji also known as KSI because the fight was going really smoothly for Olajide Olatunji or KSI but because that right hook at look like an elbow strike they really talk about this one and saying that it was an elbow but right now after hearing what Olajide Olatunji or KSI have to say in his Youtube Channel I truly understand it all, here is the Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3TR18xcXbE

Now hearing his explanation he had a point in it he doesn't train to elbow people and Joe Fournier was moving forward and the right hook hit him and the elbow also hit him he is not really saying that he didn't really hit Fournier with an Elbow but he has known in himself that it was a clean right hook but it also kind of like an elbow on the different angle so yeah I think he is waiting for a further decision and hope it will be a good one because it could be changed into a No Contest result, but indeed KSI is pretty much OK with it and just waiting for the official decision,

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May 18, 2023, 10:08:52 AM
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It will be nice to see him fight a former champ from this division as it can boost him up if he will manage to win over Nery, the timing is important as there are many fights that may take place before they will negotiate his next fight, we all know that this sport is not just an ordinary one but a business that needs to have a good promoter so everything will be in place.

Skills wise, Casimero needs to keep adding more in enhancing his potentials it's not that far from his last weight and his body already adopts this new one, so better to make complete adjustments both on his speed and his power combinations.

I had already commented on this subject that boxing, UFC and other sports have become a very big business, the market is so big that there are many things in the marketing machine such as: making the fighter have a very large fan base , have a lot of followers on social networks so that the fighter can get sponsorship from big companies, whether they are related to the sport or not, even at a private party, fighters pay to go to the party and smile, something that I see as very unnecessary and strange, but even that currently exists, so because of all the marketing and money involved, fighters constantly need to be in the spotlight

but unlike the world of music where the singer is taking off his clothes, appears drunk or high or creates some controversy with his fellow singer to get media attention, fighters don't get a lot of attention doing this, the only way a fighter can get a lot of attention and winning fights, and in Casimero's case his victory wasn't convincing, his opponent was the subject of jokes all over the internet and nobody had faith in Nghitumbwa, most people expected that Nghitumbwa would be knocked out in a short time and they didn't expect that Nghitumbwa was going to hit Casimero, I saw comments saying that Casimero didn't manage to knock out because Nghitumbw probably rehydrated him after the weigh-in, but how do you explain that Phillipus Nghitumbwa landed his punches on Casimero

fact is that even though Phillipus Nghitumbwa didn't have the best preparation conditions, he went to fight on equal terms against John Riel Casimero, I really believe that if Phillipus Nghitumbwa had the good conditions that athletes from abroad have, he would come out victorious in that fight . in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention

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May 18, 2023, 12:36:02 PM
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fact is that even though Phillipus Nghitumbwa didn't have the best preparation conditions, he went to fight on equal terms against John Riel Casimero, I really believe that if Phillipus Nghitumbwa had the good conditions that athletes from abroad have, he would come out victorious in that fight .
Maybe, but they were given enough time to train, so how can you say that he didn't have the best preparation? The guy was a KO artist, so he really has the power punch to knock out Casimero, but it didn't happen. People are still unsatisfied despite Casimero winning the fight, but they didn't realize that Phillipus Nghitumbwa is a great fighter, which is why Casimero had a hard time defeating his opponent.

in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention
The excuse given was that he was training in his home country and might have been distracted during training. However, let's avoid discussing excuses here, as both fighters are expected to perform at their best during the fight so the winner should be appreciated.

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May 18, 2023, 12:52:23 PM
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in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention
The excuse given was that he was training in his home country and might have been distracted during training. However, let's avoid discussing excuses here, as both fighters are expected to perform at their best during the fight so the winner should be appreciated.

There's a reason why Casimero went to Thailand during his fight in Korea for him to focus. I also do not believe that Casimero was fully focused during his training camp in Cebu, Ph. He might have underestimated Fillipus which is why he avoided a more costly training camp abroad like Thailand. Casimero's lifestyle and becoming a part-time vlogger make it more difficult for him to focus if he stays in the country during training camps.

The fight is already done. Many fans did not appreciate Casimero's poor performance during that fight. Filippus might be heavy during fight night but that cannot be an excuse if you are looking for a fight with Naoya Inoue.

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May 18, 2023, 05:31:21 PM
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in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention
The excuse given was that he was training in his home country and might have been distracted during training. However, let's avoid discussing excuses here, as both fighters are expected to perform at their best during the fight so the winner should be appreciated.

There's a reason why Casimero went to Thailand during his fight in Korea for him to focus. I also do not believe that Casimero was fully focused during his training camp in Cebu, Ph. He might have underestimated Fillipus which is why he avoided a more costly training camp abroad like Thailand. Casimero's lifestyle and becoming a part-time vlogger make it more difficult for him to focus if he stays in the country during training camps.

The fight is already done. Many fans did not appreciate Casimero's poor performance during that fight. Filippus might be heavy during fight night but that cannot be an excuse if you are looking for a fight with Naoya Inoue.

If John Riel Casimero really wanted to continue his love towards making a video, then he should make a choice so that he can focus on the things which he really wanted to do. Being a part-time vlogger while having an upcoming fight is a big no no because a slight distraction will make a difference when you're inside the ring fighting for your life and career, Casimero should already know the word discipline as he is not new anymore to this industry. Now if he kept on doing this, his preparations to be in a championship fight soon will probably be wasted as it will not make him ready at all.
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fact is that even though Phillipus Nghitumbwa didn't have the best preparation conditions, he went to fight on equal terms against John Riel Casimero, I really believe that if Phillipus Nghitumbwa had the good conditions that athletes from abroad have, he would come out victorious in that fight . in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention

I couldn't agree more. Casimero may have won that fight but he still fell short on the people's expectation which is somehow reasonable enough because it is really possible that Casimero he can do more and could execute more if he wasn't distracted. And while he seems to be underestimating Filipus, he might've lost that fight if the latter came prepared as Casimero was really struggling to close the fight with an exclamation.

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May 18, 2023, 07:24:42 PM
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A rematch won't be reasonable enough because KSI did some dirty tricks to Fournier that somehow made him the winner of this bout, if this will be reviewed, I reckon that KSI should be granted a disqualification and the fight will not be listed as valid. This kind of actions should not be taken lightly because Fournier could've been lying right now in the hospital fighting for his own life if he has received a much serious damage.

And for KSI calling and challenging Tommy Fury to fight him next, I doubt that the latter will give him some time nor entertain him after what he has done that gave an embarrassment to the sport.

Well, I think many will agree that it was really the elbow that has done Joe Fournier, yes it should be a disqualification for KSI, but again if the Referee didn't see it it was a clean right hand for KSI, but the announcer was clearly shouting that it was a clean Elbow but in the midst of the fight even JJ or KSI isn't really aware what has already hit Fournier or maybe he is really just denying it, and in the heat of the fight I think he is more surprising that it has happened,

And for calling out Tommy Fury like that I really think that Tommy Fury is a step up for KSI, even for Jake Paul, I just really think that these guys isn't really ready for a Tommy Fury,

It's true that the referee didn't saw it as he was not in a certain angle when that particular incident happened but the judges, announcers and the people sitting on the front row saw it go down. That alone makes a valid point on why the fight should be investigated further and be reviewed by the board because if they just let this slide issue slide, it will have a negative outcome towards them instead of making KSI pay for what he has done.

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May 18, 2023, 08:10:44 PM
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A rematch won't be reasonable enough because KSI did some dirty tricks to Fournier that somehow made him the winner of this bout, if this will be reviewed, I reckon that KSI should be granted a disqualification and the fight will not be listed as valid. This kind of actions should not be taken lightly because Fournier could've been lying right now in the hospital fighting for his own life if he has received a much serious damage.

And for KSI calling and challenging Tommy Fury to fight him next, I doubt that the latter will give him some time nor entertain him after what he has done that gave an embarrassment to the sport.

Well, I think many will agree that it was really the elbow that has done Joe Fournier, yes it should be a disqualification for KSI, but again if the Referee didn't see it it was a clean right hand for KSI, but the announcer was clearly shouting that it was a clean Elbow but in the midst of the fight even JJ or KSI isn't really aware what has already hit Fournier or maybe he is really just denying it, and in the heat of the fight I think he is more surprising that it has happened,

And for calling out Tommy Fury like that I really think that Tommy Fury is a step up for KSI, even for Jake Paul, I just really think that these guys isn't really ready for a Tommy Fury,

It's true that the referee didn't saw it as he was not in a certain angle when that particular incident happened but the judges, announcers and the people sitting on the front row saw it go down. That alone makes a valid point on why the fight should be investigated further and be reviewed by the board because if they just let this slide issue slide, it will have a negative outcome towards them instead of making KSI pay for what he has done.

Nope. The ref saw it, he is right in front of them. He can't be looking somewhere else but he just didn't realize it was an elbow.

Though I think it wasn't his intention to elbow, it's just not fair to take credit for the KO KSI did celebrate like he landed a clean shot. He still is winning the fight as far as I can see his overhead shots lands several times.

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May 18, 2023, 08:37:44 PM
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A rematch won't be reasonable enough because KSI did some dirty tricks to Fournier that somehow made him the winner of this bout, if this will be reviewed, I reckon that KSI should be granted a disqualification and the fight will not be listed as valid. This kind of actions should not be taken lightly because Fournier could've been lying right now in the hospital fighting for his own life if he has received a much serious damage.

And for KSI calling and challenging Tommy Fury to fight him next, I doubt that the latter will give him some time nor entertain him after what he has done that gave an embarrassment to the sport.

Well, I think many will agree that it was really the elbow that has done Joe Fournier, yes it should be a disqualification for KSI, but again if the Referee didn't see it it was a clean right hand for KSI, but the announcer was clearly shouting that it was a clean Elbow but in the midst of the fight even JJ or KSI isn't really aware what has already hit Fournier or maybe he is really just denying it, and in the heat of the fight I think he is more surprising that it has happened,

And for calling out Tommy Fury like that I really think that Tommy Fury is a step up for KSI, even for Jake Paul, I just really think that these guys isn't really ready for a Tommy Fury,

It's true that the referee didn't saw it as he was not in a certain angle when that particular incident happened but the judges, announcers and the people sitting on the front row saw it go down. That alone makes a valid point on why the fight should be investigated further and be reviewed by the board because if they just let this slide issue slide, it will have a negative outcome towards them instead of making KSI pay for what he has done.

Nope. The ref saw it, he is right in front of them. He can't be looking somewhere else but he just didn't realize it was an elbow.

Though I think it wasn't his intention to elbow, it's just not fair to take credit for the KO KSI did celebrate like he landed a clean shot. He still is winning the fight as far as I can see his overhead shots lands several times.

From the video circulating on the social media it's clear that the ref is just in front of it but given the benefits of doubt with the reply above that's a valid argument, judges and announcers saw it so better to have an investigation to give this fight a justification. It's not a clear KO as it was the elbow that hit and from a clear angle that being shared that's really something especially for the credential of this sport and the organization.

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May 18, 2023, 09:33:18 PM
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in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention
The excuse given was that he was training in his home country and might have been distracted during training. However, let's avoid discussing excuses here, as both fighters are expected to perform at their best during the fight so the winner should be appreciated.

There's a reason why Casimero went to Thailand during his fight in Korea for him to focus. I also do not believe that Casimero was fully focused during his training camp in Cebu, Ph. He might have underestimated Fillipus which is why he avoided a more costly training camp abroad like Thailand. Casimero's lifestyle and becoming a part-time vlogger make it more difficult for him to focus if he stays in the country during training camps.

I agree here, perhaps knowing that his fight is going to be in Manila and then cherry picking an opponent, he might not be 100% in this fight. Perhaps he just want to show boat or something and knockout Fillipus, but the guy is tough, good chin and has the tools to almost beat Casimero in this fight.

The fight is already done. Many fans did not appreciate Casimero's poor performance during that fight. Filippus might be heavy during fight night but that cannot be an excuse if you are looking for a fight with Naoya Inoue.

He has been criticized by his fans and boxing pundits around. Casimero will need a solid performance in 122 lbs if he wanted to remain relevant in this division. His past 2 performances will not attract Inoue's camp to fight him.

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May 19, 2023, 06:15:35 PM
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Casimero is a WBO Global super bantamweight title holder now, I think he can force a mandatory fight with Inoue when Inoue successfully defeats Fulton. I'm not so sure about this but its possible. If no one else is just willing to fight Inoue why not Casimero.

To Inoue however Casimero is a nobody. I guess its one reason he wouldn't respond to a call after all they couldn't just decide on their own.




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