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April 24, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
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It seems that Zepeda has the advantage and won't be difficult for him to win the battle.
For this fight, Zepeda has the advantage of an unbeaten record of 27-0 with 23 KOs and Zepeda has a younger age compared to Arboleda.
What's more, if we see that boxing experts will have more research on Zepeda's victory, and I myself am sure that Zepeda can beat Arboleda, at least with a point win.
This is the main fight and will be waiting for boxing fans and gamblers to be able to participate in the betting.

It's already happening this weekend but no buzz about the fight in the media.
They are not well known internationally, there could be just a few who will speculate about the fight. For the gamblers who don't know the 2, they will just rely on what others are saying or simply just trust the bookies as it always works and Zepeda has the advantage as he is a Carlos' boy.

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April 24, 2023, 09:27:00 PM
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Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

I truly believe in that, and Gervonta Davis is like a big brother that teaches Ryan Garcia how it should be, so maybe it is a good thing that he lost this fight, some fighters could become a great boxers when dealing with this kind of lost, and Ryan Garcia could become a better fighter in the future, but surely if there are fighters recovering from certain losses there are some that don't and I really wish Ryan Garcia doesn't have a fragile mind and ego that will surely lost in this kind of lost,


Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

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April 24, 2023, 10:04:30 PM
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Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way.  Grin  He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer.  I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight.  I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

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April 25, 2023, 02:10:26 PM
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Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way.  Grin  He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer.  I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight.  I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

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April 25, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
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Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way.  Grin  He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer.  I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight.  I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

Because he didn't used his own size advantage over Tank Garcia, instead he's the one who will reel Tank, he was the one who took the bait and chase Tank all the way up to the point where he over commits and found himself facing a punch that knocked him down in the 2nd round. I even thought that he will be more careful after that incident, but I was wrong because what he did is the very same thing until he faced his fate in the 7th round.

Hopefully he will be more wiser next time though and not be too confident just because he got a good KO ratio. He should learn a thing or two from this fight so that somehow he can be unpredictable next time.

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April 25, 2023, 04:45:33 PM
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Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way.  Grin  He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer.  I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight.  I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

Because he didn't used his own size advantage over Tank Garcia, instead he's the one who will reel Tank, he was the one who took the bait and chase Tank all the way up to the point where he over commits and found himself facing a punch that knocked him down in the 2nd round. I even thought that he will be more careful after that incident, but I was wrong because what he did is the very same thing until he faced his fate in the 7th round.

Hopefully he will be more wiser next time though and not be too confident just because he got a good KO ratio. He should learn a thing or two from this fight so that somehow he can be unpredictable next time.

Yes, that is certainly a lesson for Ryan Garcia and he will not surely forget because that was his first defeat. Also, I bet that almost everyone in his camp after the fight aren't that happy with the result because I strongly think Ryan Garcia didn't exactly do what is on their master plan because just like you guys said, I also don't think that chasing Tank was part of their plan instead of having Tank chasing Garcia because Tank surely cannot do something with his fist if he can't land it.

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April 25, 2023, 06:54:27 PM
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When it's already inside the ring, no one can expect what's next to happen. Being confident is helping these fighters to step up their game but it's true that being confident isn't enough and it should be done with hard work. We saw it from the greatest that they're not just confident and it's just all talk but they're also working hard to improve and strengthen themselves. Now, this is going to make themselves also more matches to come and with Ryan Garcia, he'd crave to win for his next match whoever it will be.

Davis absorb his hook and throw a solid punch to his ribs resulting to KO him, I mean Garcia is too confident that he can beat Davis if he will be able to throw a solid punch to Davis jaw but what I've notice is Davis is ready for this strategy and instead of slowing down he push forward and attack Garcia.

Davis shows that he's more than ready facing the young fighter, he earns now the respect from Garcia after that KO.
Davis is more experienced than Garcia. Well, the respect has always been there as these two know each other and they're looking forward if by some time in the future, there will be some promotions that will make them have a 2nd round of their match.

Hard lesson, but if Garcia will try to bounce his name up again, he really needs to work with his footworks and add more on his counter combinations.
He sure gets to learn a lot from this match and he's not everything. He'll be back for sure with another match the soonest and will apply what he has learned on this lose just as what every fighter does.

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April 26, 2023, 03:07:29 AM
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When it's already inside the ring, no one can expect what's next to happen. Being confident is helping these fighters to step up their game but it's true that being confident isn't enough and it should be done with hard work. We saw it from the greatest that they're not just confident and it's just all talk but they're also working hard to improve and strengthen themselves. Now, this is going to make themselves also more matches to come and with Ryan Garcia, he'd crave to win for his next match whoever it will be.

Davis absorb his hook and throw a solid punch to his ribs resulting to KO him, I mean Garcia is too confident that he can beat Davis if he will be able to throw a solid punch to Davis jaw but what I've notice is Davis is ready for this strategy and instead of slowing down he push forward and attack Garcia.

Davis shows that he's more than ready facing the young fighter, he earns now the respect from Garcia after that KO.
Davis is more experienced than Garcia. Well, the respect has always been there as these two know each other and they're looking forward if by some time in the future, there will be some promotions that will make them have a 2nd round of their match.

I'll agree as promoters see that fans support are there for these two fighters, a matter of time to negotiate or Garcia may fight some other guy and hype his name back to gain more attentions and a possible more ticket sales once both camps decided to negotiate and offer a rematch.

I'm sure there are still Garcia's fans that will help to promote the possibility of the rematch to earn attract more possible viewers.

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Hard lesson, but if Garcia will try to bounce his name up again, he really needs to work with his footworks and add more on his counter combinations.
He sure gets to learn a lot from this match and he's not everything. He'll be back for sure with another match the soonest and will apply what he has learned on this lose just as what every fighter does.

That's how a fighter should take a loss, learn from it and try to develop whatever he thinks that he is still missing. It will help him to be fully equipped once the rematch takes place or once he faces another caliber champ like Davis.

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April 26, 2023, 04:21:37 AM
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It seems that Zepeda has the advantage and won't be difficult for him to win the battle.
For this fight, Zepeda has the advantage of an unbeaten record of 27-0 with 23 KOs and Zepeda has a younger age compared to Arboleda.
What's more, if we see that boxing experts will have more research on Zepeda's victory, and I myself am sure that Zepeda can beat Arboleda, at least with a point win.
This is the main fight and will be waiting for boxing fans and gamblers to be able to participate in the betting.

Well, I agree, even though Jaime Arboleda has the height and reach advantage it doesn't mean that William Zepeda doesn't have the speed and skills to counter that advantage of Arboleda, and as you have said the age and experience Zepeda really has it all, but it doesn't mean that William Zepeda would likely underestimate Arboleda just because the analyst has said that he has the advantage going to the fight but Arboleda can also use his disadvantage in winning this fight aswell,


It's already happening this weekend but no buzz about the fight in the media.
They are not well known internationally, there could be just a few who will speculate about the fight. For the gamblers who don't know the 2, they will just rely on what others are saying or simply just trust the bookies as it always works and Zepeda has the advantage as he is a Carlos' boy.

Yes it is this will be on Saturday but in my country, it will be on Sunday and yeah both boxers are not well known outside so there is not much media exposure aswell but still; it doesn't mean that this fight is not going to be a great one, and yeah most of us even me are just speculating about the 2 fighters but I will surely watch some of these two fighters highlights just to be accustomed to their skills and movement going to the fight,

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April 26, 2023, 05:23:48 AM
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Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way.  Grin  He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer.  I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight.  I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

Because he didn't used his own size advantage over Tank Garcia, instead he's the one who will reel Tank, he was the one who took the bait and chase Tank all the way up to the point where he over commits and found himself facing a punch that knocked him down in the 2nd round. I even thought that he will be more careful after that incident, but I was wrong because what he did is the very same thing until he faced his fate in the 7th round.

Hopefully he will be more wiser next time though and not be too confident just because he got a good KO ratio. He should learn a thing or two from this fight so that somehow he can be unpredictable next time.

Yes, that is certainly a lesson for Ryan Garcia and he will not surely forget because that was his first defeat. Also, I bet that almost everyone in his camp after the fight aren't that happy with the result because I strongly think Ryan Garcia didn't exactly do what is on their master plan because just like you guys said, I also don't think that chasing Tank was part of their plan instead of having Tank chasing Garcia because Tank surely cannot do something with his fist if he can't land it.

As Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they are punch in the face. And that's what exactly happen here, when Garcia was hit and went down in the second round, it seems that all strategy went out of the window for him. He chooses to fight the style of Tank Davis and it's just a matter of time before Tank can read Garcia, and that's what happen in the next knockdown and Garcia stay on his knees as he can't take the pain of that body shot. His trainer, Goosen said befor the fight that they have devise a strategy but it seems it was not followed by Ryan in my opinion because of his knock down in the 2nd round.

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April 26, 2023, 07:23:42 AM
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Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way.  Grin  He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer.  I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight.  I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

Because he didn't used his own size advantage over Tank Garcia, instead he's the one who will reel Tank, he was the one who took the bait and chase Tank all the way up to the point where he over commits and found himself facing a punch that knocked him down in the 2nd round. I even thought that he will be more careful after that incident, but I was wrong because what he did is the very same thing until he faced his fate in the 7th round.

Hopefully he will be more wiser next time though and not be too confident just because he got a good KO ratio. He should learn a thing or two from this fight so that somehow he can be unpredictable next time.

I think he did early, but Tank definitely fight small here, as you can see he is already the smaller fighter between the two, but he ducks more often that's why Ryan can't execute his game play if he has. And he lost composure with Tank remain on top and still calm as he has said in post interview.

So too much chasing for Ryan and so he was caught. Really very good plan by Team Davis here and Tank just followed it and never allow Ryan to win in this chess match and it was check mate already from round 2 and up.

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April 26, 2023, 07:43:00 AM
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Davis is more experienced than Garcia. Well, the respect has always been there as these two know each other and they're looking forward if by some time in the future, there will be some promotions that will make them have a 2nd round of their match.
I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

Garcia need to accept the reality if he's not able to fight in lightweight anymore, he can't move to light welterweight because Tank will move up too. So the better option for Garcia is back to super featherweight as Shakur have moved to lightweight.

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April 26, 2023, 12:57:35 PM
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I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.

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April 26, 2023, 02:05:04 PM
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I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.

They may consider it if the fight ended with UD but sadly no. A rematch that is possible I think will be on the 140 if Ryan performs well on the 140 and then beat tough men above him including Taylor. And then Tank also has nowhere else to go and he decides to move to 140 as well. WBO will likely give Tank a fast lane to a belt fight. That will really bring back the buzz of the first fight and the trashtalk will be worse.


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April 26, 2023, 02:34:24 PM
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I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.
There is no rematch clause so he will not pursue it, so does his team. And I doubt Tank Davis would easily accept that. For Ryan Garcia, I want to see him on a higher weight, his body is built something greater and he don't have to punish himself by weighing down just so he could fight champions like Davis. There is always a choice to let it go and try another champion on a higher weight.
We just saw how far their difference is and Davis mostly relied on his speed to take advantage of Garcia's slow movement and relying on his left only.
Jr. Welterweight seems to be a good choice and if he is still having a hard time catching weight try the higher one.
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April 26, 2023, 03:03:35 PM
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I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.

They may consider it if the fight ended with UD but sadly no. A rematch that is possible I think will be on the 140 if Ryan performs well on the 140 and then beat tough men above him including Taylor. And then Tank also has nowhere else to go and he decides to move to 140 as well. WBO will likely give Tank a fast lane to a belt fight. That will really bring back the buzz of the first fight and the trashtalk will be worse.

I don't think Tank is trying to go on the next weight class, he said during the post-game interview that he will keep on defending the belt but there's no hint that he will try to dominate other belts.
Ryan Garcia on the other hand can do that and I think it's the best decision rather than sticking where Tank is because the same rehydration clause will be used against him and it will just be a disadvantage to him. But, if he chooses to move forward he won't see those kinds of agreements. He is big, his physical attributes are way farther than Davis (reach and height) that is why they do that, the only solution is to find boxers in the same league as him.
There's no update yet about what he will do next, he should take the rest first but after that, he should decide whether it's time to give up pursuing Davis and climb the ladder.

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April 26, 2023, 08:21:07 PM
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I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.
There is no rematch clause so he will not pursue it, so does his team. And I doubt Tank Davis would easily accept that. For Ryan Garcia, I want to see him on a higher weight, his body is built something greater and he don't have to punish himself by weighing down just so he could fight champions like Davis. There is always a choice to let it go and try another champion on a higher weight.
We just saw how far their difference is and Davis mostly relied on his speed to take advantage of Garcia's slow movement and relying on his left only.
Jr. Welterweight seems to be a good choice and if he is still having a hard time catching weight try the higher one.

I very much agree on your statement mate, perhaps Ryan Garcia could be more lethal and dangerous in the upper division rather than forcing his own weight to fit in 135. But before all of that, he should try and improve his fighting style first because even if he can survive a few fights against the lower ranks, he will still find himself in the very same position where he can't really touch the champions because he lacks something. It's time for him to move-on and learn the lesson that was taught to him, and equip it to be a better boxer in his new journey.
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April 26, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
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I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.
There is no rematch clause so he will not pursue it, so does his team. And I doubt Tank Davis would easily accept that. For Ryan Garcia, I want to see him on a higher weight, his body is built something greater and he don't have to punish himself by weighing down just so he could fight champions like Davis. There is always a choice to let it go and try another champion on a higher weight.
We just saw how far their difference is and Davis mostly relied on his speed to take advantage of Garcia's slow movement and relying on his left only.
Jr. Welterweight seems to be a good choice and if he is still having a hard time catching weight try the higher one.

I very much agree on your statement mate, perhaps Ryan Garcia could be more lethal and dangerous in the upper division rather than forcing his own weight to fit in 135. But before all of that, he should try and improve his fighting style first because even if he can survive a few fights against the lower ranks, he will still find himself in the very same position where he can't really touch the champions because he lacks something. It's time for him to move-on and learn the lesson that was taught to him, and equip it to be a better boxer in his new journey.

I don't think that Ryan could simply improved his fighting style, I mean he has been used to that since he is very young. So even if Reynoso or Goosen is his coach, we might see the same fighting style of Ryan over again. We all know what he lacks, movement, even Tank Davis criticized him for that but Ryan was not deterred. Now, he was really exposed by Tank with his no movement and just going up straight against him. Davis just time him up in the second round and then throw that lead left, so instant knock down. And on the last round 7, Tank saw the opening in the body as Garcia is not protecting it, or at least very open when he throws his favorite left hook. 140 lbs could fit his body, but with the likes of Josh Taylor, Ramirez, Prograis, Teo Lopez, Albert Puello and other elite Jr. Welterweight, it might be a difficult division for Ryan to test.

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April 26, 2023, 10:09:41 PM
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Davis is more experienced than Garcia. Well, the respect has always been there as these two know each other and they're looking forward if by some time in the future, there will be some promotions that will make them have a 2nd round of their match.
I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.
We may say that it might or might not need some rematch since it's still a fresh match after all. This match is like the match of the year and everybody has talked about it.
And it wouldn't be surprising if the promoters will come by to them and ask for a rematch and that's why I think that it can possibly happen since both of them have shown no disappointment to most fans.

Garcia need to accept the reality if he's not able to fight in lightweight anymore, he can't move to light welterweight because Tank will move up too. So the better option for Garcia is back to super featherweight as Shakur have moved to lightweight.
I guess that he'll do some of these options only if he don't wanna face him again for the meantime.

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April 26, 2023, 10:10:53 PM
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Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

I truly believe in that, and Gervonta Davis is like a big brother that teaches Ryan Garcia how it should be, so maybe it is a good thing that he lost this fight, some fighters could become a great boxers when dealing with this kind of lost, and Ryan Garcia could become a better fighter in the future, but surely if there are fighters recovering from certain losses there are some that don't and I really wish Ryan Garcia doesn't have a fragile mind and ego that will surely lost in this kind of lost,


Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

in that fight the difference in strength was evident, Ryan Garcia's punches didn't have much power, although they caused some damage to Davis but they weren't enough to make Davis immobilized, and to make matters worse when Ryan Garcia threw a punch he was very close the opponent is very exposed, the angle at which he positioned himself to attack the opponent allowed the opponent to cause a lot of damage to him when he counterattacked, I don't understand why he himself having suffered a lot of damage in the first mistake I continue with the same strategy, instead of having realized that Davis' punches were stronger and that's why he should stick to defense and let Davis attack more to get more tired and his punches to be less heavy

Ryan Garcia just got into devis' wave and I'm still fighting on an equal footing with devis and with that it was worth him losing this fight, I don't see Ryan Garcia doing well in other fights if he's going to fight an opponent with characteristics like I devis this because I doubt very much that Ryan Garcia will want to change anything in his style or fight strategy, if he had fought more calmly and defended more, this fight could have taken another direction

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