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March 11, 2023, 12:51:10 PM
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From Garcia’s perspective, he feels like he said yes to virtually every request because he wanted this career-defining fight so badly.
They didn't detail what other requests had been made but I like how Garcia is just trying to let the fight happen even if there are so many things that he has to accept.
This is good publicity for him too, he may pull some fans on his side for being the bullied one when it comes to the contract signing.

Davis is a popular fighter here, so most likely he got a high share and would dictate the terms of the fight. I guess Ryan Garcia really knows that, so he is giving that privilege to Davis now, and once he beats Tank Davis, then it will be his time to dictate the terms of the contract. I heard that there's a rematch clause for Davis if he loses, so that could result in a 2-0 in favor of Garcia, which will make him even more popular.

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March 11, 2023, 07:01:49 PM
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Mayweather fight with no one, recently he fight with Aaron Chalmers aka MMA fighter, the fight wasn't scored because each of them can't knocking out each other. I think Mayweather seems to have lose his hype, but many people are still cheering McGregor and Jake Paul, this might because Mayweather isn't a funny person.

The match was end with Tommy Fury win via split decision, we will see a rematch sooner or later, Jake Paul will mad and take the future fight in serious.

There is something that I have never liked about Mayweather, and he is a boxer who does not take risks like the others, I think he cares too much about his reputation and does not want to lose it, and I understand that but a boxer must take risks to be the best and retire as the best, I remember the fight against Pacquiao, he told him he didn't want revenge, I saw him as fearful.

I didn't find out about that fight, nor did I bother looking for news like that, but why? Since he chooses opponents that he knows he will beat easily, why doesn't he choose a difficult one? a famous? ah because he knows that he can lose, because he is not in his best shape, so these things bother me about Mayweather.


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From Garcia’s perspective, he feels like he said yes to virtually every request because he wanted this career-defining fight so badly.
They didn't detail what other requests had been made but I like how Garcia is just trying to let the fight happen even if there are so many things that he has to accept.
This is good publicity for him too, he may pull some fans on his side for being the bullied one when it comes to the contract signing.

Davis is a popular fighter here, so most likely he got a high share and would dictate the terms of the fight. I guess Ryan Garcia really knows that, so he is giving that privilege to Davis now, and once he beats Tank Davis, then it will be his time to dictate the terms of the contract. I heard that there's a rematch clause for Davis if he loses, so that could result in a 2-0 in favor of Garcia, which will make him even more popular.
Well here things move differently, from what I see DAVIS ensures his fight with a clause to be able to have a rematch, it's not bad , but I insist, boxers should be clear that rematches are something normal that they should always do say yes, but what are they boxers for? most of them live off fame and the fame of what they sell , so what this does is makes the fans more eager for a rematch, it's the first thing they think of when a fight is over, so today's boxers in Day they only think about what they will win , it's not bad, but things should go further.

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March 11, 2023, 07:10:31 PM
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From Garcia’s perspective, he feels like he said yes to virtually every request because he wanted this career-defining fight so badly.
They didn't detail what other requests had been made but I like how Garcia is just trying to let the fight happen even if there are so many things that he has to accept.
This is good publicity for him too, he may pull some fans on his side for being the bullied one when it comes to the contract signing.

Davis is a popular fighter here, so most likely he got a high share and would dictate the terms of the fight. I guess Ryan Garcia really knows that, so he is giving that privilege to Davis now, and once he beats Tank Davis, then it will be his time to dictate the terms of the contract. I heard that there's a rematch clause for Davis if he loses, so that could result in a 2-0 in favor of Garcia, which will make him even more popular.

It's the confidence of Garcia that is in full display here, although he doesn't like that Davis is dictating all the terms of the fight, but maybe in his mind, he knows that he can beat Davis easily.

And that is the bad side of boxing and negotiations, the B-side will also take the small pie and the disadvantage unless he pulls an upset win. And in this case, Garcia will be the obvious underdog, but for sure he will be a live underdog as what they say, meaning he has a good chance to win as well.

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March 11, 2023, 07:29:14 PM
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I didn't know there were too many demands from the champion's camp just so Ryan Garcia could fight him.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-i-definitely-put-boxing-first-accept-lotta-stipulations-davis-fight--172999
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Garcia gave Davis a one-sided rematch clause that only Davis can exercise if Garcia upsets him April 22 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
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The 24-year-old Garcia must adhere as well to a rehydration clause that prohibits him from weighing more than 146 pounds when he enters the ring for their Showtime Pay-Per-View main event.
The second one was kind of intriguing. Maybe because Ryan Garcia is way too big and Davis' camp is preventing him to gain more power by being heavier when the fight starts. That's a good strategy and this is the first I have heard that it could be done. This means he will be weighed again before he enters the ring.
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From Garcia’s perspective, he feels like he said yes to virtually every request because he wanted this career-defining fight so badly.
They didn't detail what other requests had been made but I like how Garcia is just trying to let the fight happen even if there are so many things that he has to accept.
This is good publicity for him too, he may pull some fans on his side for being the bullied one when it comes to the contract signing.

Yes, Davis says that Ryan is too big and can go over 150 lbs, and with that weight, it's going to be very hard to knock him down and at the same time could have more power and Davis is obviously afraid of it.

Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.

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March 11, 2023, 07:34:26 PM
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And that is the bad side of boxing and negotiations, the B-side will also take the small pie and the disadvantage unless he pulls an upset win. And in this case, Garcia will be the obvious underdog, but for sure he will be a live underdog as what they say, meaning he has a good chance to win as well.

"In general", that's not a considered bad side for me but rather just makes sense to happen especially weighing in terms of popularity or maybe tickets and PPV sales history. Referring to the mega bout between Davis and Garcia, I do think that anything related to the purse split isn't really a big concern. There is just part of the contract, outside the purse split concerns, that Garcia didn't want especially making some adjustments just for the fight to happen.

Regardless though, the boxing community should be thankful to both for pushing their fight and not taking another bout with other boxers even if "their surroundings" are telling them not to do that instead. One of the anticipated big fights this year will now be witnessed.

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March 11, 2023, 11:37:45 PM
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Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.
Yeah, and that's why after reading the details I was kind of intrigued because honestly, this is really the first time I saw a clause like that. I guess we will just have to witness it before Ryan Garcia steps on the ring if there will be a weighing scale before he enters.  Grin
It's almost like a punishment for a big boxer trying to cut weight for the weigh-ins and then avoiding rehydration just so he can still be in the range where the opponent requested it before the fight.
Now I know why the Tank's camp is avoiding Garcia for a long time. They are pondering what clause they will add to avoid losing the belt.
I think Ryan will have a big problem here if the fight will be long considering that clause.

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March 12, 2023, 05:40:58 AM
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I think this bout was just yesterday and here are the results,

Rise or Fall: Pacheco vs. Cullen



MAIN EVENT

Diego Pacheco DEFEATED Jack Cullen - ROUND 4 KO/TKO

CO-MAIN EVENT

Darragh Foley DEFEATED Robbie Davies Jr. - ROUND 3 KO/TKO

MAIN CARD

Rhiannon Dixon DEFEATED Vicky Wilkinson - ROUND 6 KO/TKO
Johnny Fisher DEFEATED Alfonso Damiani - ROUND 4 KO/TKO
Peter McGrail DEFEATED Nicolas Botelli - ROUND 10 DECISION
Aqib Fiaz DEFEATED Dean Dodge - ROUND 8 KO/TKO
Campbell Hatton DEFEATED Michel Gonxhe - ROUND 6 DECISION
Paddy Lacey DEFEATED James McCarthy - ROUND 6 DECISION
George Liddard DEFEATED Daniel Przewieslik - ROUND 3 - KO/TKO

All information was from TAPOLOGY

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March 12, 2023, 09:44:58 AM
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Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.
Yeah, and that's why after reading the details I was kind of intrigued because honestly, this is really the first time I saw a clause like that. I guess we will just have to witness it before Ryan Garcia steps on the ring if there will be a weighing scale before he enters.  Grin
It's almost like a punishment for a big boxer trying to cut weight for the weigh-ins and then avoiding rehydration just so he can still be in the range where the opponent requested it before the fight.
Now I know why the Tank's camp is avoiding Garcia for a long time. They are pondering what clause they will add to avoid losing the belt.
I think Ryan will have a big problem here if the fight will be long considering that clause.

As for me, I have seen that rematch clause or at least heard it already, just forget who the boxer is.

Anyhow, I have said, it will be fair if the fight is really like 135 lbs and no rehydration clause. So if ever Davis won, then he can says that he beat Ryan at his best weight without any disadvantage or anything.

But I guess if Ryan agrees with it then he can't used it as a excuse in the end.

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March 12, 2023, 02:28:05 PM
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And that is the bad side of boxing and negotiations, the B-side will also take the small pie and the disadvantage unless he pulls an upset win. And in this case, Garcia will be the obvious underdog, but for sure he will be a live underdog as what they say, meaning he has a good chance to win as well.

"In general", that's not a considered bad side for me but rather just makes sense to happen especially weighing in terms of popularity or maybe tickets and PPV sales history. Referring to the mega bout between Davis and Garcia, I do think that anything related to the purse split isn't really a big concern. There is just part of the contract, outside the purse split concerns, that Garcia didn't want especially making some adjustments just for the fight to happen.

Regardless though, the boxing community should be thankful to both for pushing their fight and not taking another bout with other boxers even if "their surroundings" are telling them not to do that instead. One of the anticipated big fights this year will now be witnessed.

It's the negotiation that take place whatever behind the contract are both being signed by two parties, I can understand if there's some edge for Davis in terms of the amount that his camp will be getting in this upcoming fight, it's understandable and Garcia's camp sign the deal meaning to say that they are accepting that negotiations.

In terms of upset, we can expect that, as Garcia also has that capability to KO, if Davis will be careless and not going to take the fight seriously.

I mean, if Garcia will be given that chance to throw solid combinations, then Davis will surely kiss the floor.

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March 12, 2023, 09:51:23 PM
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Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.
Yeah, and that's why after reading the details I was kind of intrigued because honestly, this is really the first time I saw a clause like that. I guess we will just have to witness it before Ryan Garcia steps on the ring if there will be a weighing scale before he enters.  Grin
It's almost like a punishment for a big boxer trying to cut weight for the weigh-ins and then avoiding rehydration just so he can still be in the range where the opponent requested it before the fight.
Now I know why the Tank's camp is avoiding Garcia for a long time. They are pondering what clause they will add to avoid losing the belt.
I think Ryan will have a big problem here if the fight will be long considering that clause.

It's part of boxing culture already, because a boxer can rehydrate and be big in the fight night itself, gain like 10-15 lbs or over 20 lbs is possible for this guys. I heard from Calvin Ford, Davis trainer, that they want the fight in 135 lbs, and Ryan's camp wanted 136 lbs. So they gave in to their demands but there will be a rehydration clause of 10 lbs for Ryan. So both trying to make their weight very easy for them, as Ryan say's it's a go and he has no problem with that. So in this case two weigh-in, before and after the fight to make sure that what is stipulated in the contract will be followed by both camps. We haven't heard about the gloves and the size of the ring and other stipulation.

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We don't have an upcoming well-known fight right now but we have a boxing match this coming March 18, well I am going to leave it here unless anyone is interested in a certain Discussion about the fight, and this is the we also got a Filipino boxer in the Co-Main event

Ramirez vs. Rosado

Saturday 03.18.2023 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: Golden Boy Promotions
Venue: The Walter Pyramid
Location: Long Beach, California



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CO-MAIN EVENT

Joseph Diaz VS Mercito Gesta

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March 13, 2023, 08:23:42 PM
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We don't have an upcoming well-known fight right now but we have a boxing match this coming March 18, well I am going to leave it here unless anyone is interested in a certain Discussion about the fight, and this is the we also got a Filipino boxer in the Co-Main event

Ramirez vs. Rosado

Saturday 03.18.2023 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: Golden Boy Promotions
Venue: The Walter Pyramid
Location: Long Beach, California



MAIN EVENT

Gilberto Ramirez VS Gabriel Rosado

CO-MAIN EVENT

Joseph Diaz VS Mercito Gesta

MAIN CARD

Oscar Duarte VS Alex Martin
Eric Tudor VS Damoni Cato-Cain

All information was from TAPOLOGY

Not really that interested to see Ramirez again in the ring because even if he manage to win this one, he will still have to face the fact that he will just be in a dead-end because he cannot beat either one of the champions at 175 pounds. He almost got the same situation with Caleb Plant, people are not interested on him to win anymore because they doubt that he can still make a difference this time when he will face Canelo in the future.

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March 13, 2023, 09:34:54 PM
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Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.
Yeah, and that's why after reading the details I was kind of intrigued because honestly, this is really the first time I saw a clause like that. I guess we will just have to witness it before Ryan Garcia steps on the ring if there will be a weighing scale before he enters.  Grin
It's almost like a punishment for a big boxer trying to cut weight for the weigh-ins and then avoiding rehydration just so he can still be in the range where the opponent requested it before the fight.
Now I know why the Tank's camp is avoiding Garcia for a long time. They are pondering what clause they will add to avoid losing the belt.
I think Ryan will have a big problem here if the fight will be long considering that clause.

It's part of boxing culture already, because a boxer can rehydrate and be big in the fight night itself, gain like 10-15 lbs or over 20 lbs is possible for this guys. I heard from Calvin Ford, Davis trainer, that they want the fight in 135 lbs, and Ryan's camp wanted 136 lbs. So they gave in to their demands but there will be a rehydration clause of 10 lbs for Ryan. So both trying to make their weight very easy for them, as Ryan say's it's a go and he has no problem with that. So in this case two weigh-in, before and after the fight to make sure that what is stipulated in the contract will be followed by both camps. We haven't heard about the gloves and the size of the ring and other stipulation.

I suspect that Ryan Garcia's camp didn't anticipated that to happen where a rehydration clause will be put in place right after their demands are being met. I'm just curious though, why would they agree to have the latter choice if they could have the fight happen at 135 and without that rehydration clause as that is more favorable for Garcia's camp rather than getting another weigh-in at the day of the fight to see how much weight did he add and a little over 10 pounds is not acceptable.

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March 13, 2023, 09:52:48 PM
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Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.
Yeah, and that's why after reading the details I was kind of intrigued because honestly, this is really the first time I saw a clause like that. I guess we will just have to witness it before Ryan Garcia steps on the ring if there will be a weighing scale before he enters.  Grin
It's almost like a punishment for a big boxer trying to cut weight for the weigh-ins and then avoiding rehydration just so he can still be in the range where the opponent requested it before the fight.
Now I know why the Tank's camp is avoiding Garcia for a long time. They are pondering what clause they will add to avoid losing the belt.
I think Ryan will have a big problem here if the fight will be long considering that clause.

It's part of boxing culture already, because a boxer can rehydrate and be big in the fight night itself, gain like 10-15 lbs or over 20 lbs is possible for this guys. I heard from Calvin Ford, Davis trainer, that they want the fight in 135 lbs, and Ryan's camp wanted 136 lbs. So they gave in to their demands but there will be a rehydration clause of 10 lbs for Ryan. So both trying to make their weight very easy for them, as Ryan say's it's a go and he has no problem with that. So in this case two weigh-in, before and after the fight to make sure that what is stipulated in the contract will be followed by both camps. We haven't heard about the gloves and the size of the ring and other stipulation.

I suspect that Ryan Garcia's camp didn't anticipated that to happen where a rehydration clause will be put in place right after their demands are being met. I'm just curious though, why would they agree to have the latter choice if they could have the fight happen at 135 and without that rehydration clause as that is more favorable for Garcia's camp rather than getting another weigh-in at the day of the fight to see how much weight did he add and a little over 10 pounds is not acceptable.

we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.

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March 13, 2023, 10:30:08 PM
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And that is the bad side of boxing and negotiations, the B-side will also take the small pie and the disadvantage unless he pulls an upset win. And in this case, Garcia will be the obvious underdog, but for sure he will be a live underdog as what they say, meaning he has a good chance to win as well.

"In general", that's not a considered bad side for me but rather just makes sense to happen especially weighing in terms of popularity or maybe tickets and PPV sales history. Referring to the mega bout between Davis and Garcia, I do think that anything related to the purse split isn't really a big concern. There is just part of the contract, outside the purse split concerns, that Garcia didn't want especially making some adjustments just for the fight to happen.

Regardless though, the boxing community should be thankful to both for pushing their fight and not taking another bout with other boxers even if "their surroundings" are telling them not to do that instead. One of the anticipated big fights this year will now be witnessed.

I agree though, it's not a bad side in general, it is what it is, we have the odds favorite and the underdog. And no matter what, in negotiations, there will always be something that will be in disagreement, and it can only be settled if the other side is willing to make a compromise and make that adjustments. And in this case, Garcia says "Yes", because he wants the fight to be done no matter what will be those unfavorable proviso in the contract. No more speculation and waiting, just like the failed supposedly fight between two of the best and unbeaten fighter, Spence and Crawford. And with that, now we are going to see one of the best fights for this year, or maybe the best fights if this is going to be a battle inside the ring.

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March 13, 2023, 10:56:13 PM
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we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.
And I think that will be the issue. That's the motive of the clause, to give Garcia a hard time.
After the weigh-ins, he should preserve that wait until fight night which means a lot of things. Powerless, stressed, and more. The effects will be lighter punches, exhaustion, and could easily get irritated which Davis could take advantage of. It sounds unfair but Davis' camp is using the rule book on their side especially knowing Garcia's body build is way too big for that weight class.
We will definitely see a KO here. Either Garcia will shock Davis because it didn't affect him or he will be lying in the mat because of the wittiness of his opponent using the "clause" as their upper hand.

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March 14, 2023, 11:34:26 AM
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we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.
And I think that will be the issue. That's the motive of the clause, to give Garcia a hard time.
After the weigh-ins, he should preserve that wait until fight night which means a lot of things. Powerless, stressed, and more. The effects will be lighter punches, exhaustion, and could easily get irritated which Davis could take advantage of. It sounds unfair but Davis' camp is using the rule book on their side especially knowing Garcia's body build is way too big for that weight class.
We will definitely see a KO here. Either Garcia will shock Davis because it didn't affect him or he will be lying in the mat because of the wittiness of his opponent using the "clause" as their upper hand.

I think that is the main goal on the camp of Tank Davis, they see Ryan as a very big 135 lbs so they have to insert that into the clause, that he can only add 10 lbs for rehydration, no more no less.

So they just want it to be fair for Davis, although for fans, it seems that Tank wanted to take advantage of Ryan Garcia. But it's a done deal already, Ryan is fine and definitely still has the height and reach advantage. Power might be the same, as well as the speed. So maybe whomever make the first mistake, but suffer that knock/down or out.

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March 14, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
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we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.
And I think that will be the issue. That's the motive of the clause, to give Garcia a hard time.
After the weigh-ins, he should preserve that wait until fight night which means a lot of things. Powerless, stressed, and more. The effects will be lighter punches, exhaustion, and could easily get irritated which Davis could take advantage of. It sounds unfair but Davis' camp is using the rule book on their side especially knowing Garcia's body build is way too big for that weight class.
We will definitely see a KO here. Either Garcia will shock Davis because it didn't affect him or he will be lying in the mat because of the wittiness of his opponent using the "clause" as their upper hand.

There's always something that fans will love to discuss, after the negotiations and both camps agree with the terms and conditions the next thing is to prepare for the fight, whatever it is that may affect the winning chance of each individual they needed to train well to adjust and make it more possible to take that edge.

Either Garcia or Davis, both are capable of KO their opponents. Just a slight mistake can bring them to kiss the floor.

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March 14, 2023, 09:35:55 PM
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Well, for me, Floyd Mayweather is not such an iconic boxer, I am sure that many know well who Pacquiao is before him, I cannot deny, he is a very intelligent boxer, he knows how to handle fights in a totally technical area very well, but sometimes Sometimes that is something that is boring, we as fans want to see more action, we want to see technique and we want to see what they are capable of, that they reach the limit, maybe things are getting more demanding for this type of boxer.
I know what you feel and that vibe is the same with many boxing fans. It's true that he's a living legend and he's got a good and clean record but he's not really an icon to many. I don't know maybe that feels about how he's interacting with fans and the charisma isn't just the same with other real icons that we can say like Pacquiao, Marquez, and other boxers that have been knowing for the past years. And it even made his reputation lower when he's doing some exhibition matches as it's intended to make money just as his alias.

many boxing fans want real toe-to-toe fight inside the ring. and mayweather's technique is not like that, he is indeed on the technicalities wherein as a boxing audience, you will see him running away from his opponent but only care for the points he will make. i also don't like this kind of boxer. much better if he will give a real fight just like pacquiao. every boxing fan has their own take on this matter. but imo, a true legend is not afraid of having a loss in his record.

It's not that I'm a very radical fan, what happens is that when the fights are merely technical they go to the terrain of boredom and that partly turns into anger, because they are fights that one looks forward to and suddenly comes out with that, so it's not worth it, they don't give the show, unlike Pacquiao in his time, he was always looking for a fight, he wasn't afraid of receiving the blows, he knew that if he gave just 1 blow it would be very decisive, and that's what that excites, boxing is for people who are not afraid of blows, but who really want to succeed.


And that is the bad side of boxing and negotiations, the B-side will also take the small pie and the disadvantage unless he pulls an upset win. And in this case, Garcia will be the obvious underdog, but for sure he will be a live underdog as what they say, meaning he has a good chance to win as well.

"In general", that's not a considered bad side for me but rather just makes sense to happen especially weighing in terms of popularity or maybe tickets and PPV sales history. Referring to the mega bout between Davis and Garcia, I do think that anything related to the purse split isn't really a big concern. There is just part of the contract, outside the purse split concerns, that Garcia didn't want especially making some adjustments just for the fight to happen.

Regardless though, the boxing community should be thankful to both for pushing their fight and not taking another bout with other boxers even if "their surroundings" are telling them not to do that instead. One of the anticipated big fights this year will now be witnessed.

It's the negotiation that take place whatever behind the contract are both being signed by two parties, I can understand if there's some edge for Davis in terms of the amount that his camp will be getting in this upcoming fight, it's understandable and Garcia's camp sign the deal meaning to say that they are accepting that negotiations.

In terms of upset, we can expect that, as Garcia also has that capability to KO, if Davis will be careless and not going to take the fight seriously.

I mean, if Garcia will be given that chance to throw solid combinations, then Davis will surely kiss the floor.

Well, that is what Boxers always have in their favor,how They can do in their training and depending on that performance is how you can see in the fight how they do it,if it is good or bad,for me the type of training that they take,in the case of Garcia of course he can make a good Knockout, I think Davis must consider that he can do it and must take his precautions and his good strategy,in the case of Davis he is a Boxer who has a lot of experience, and Obviously he can do a great Knockout, but I am Trust that these Fighters from round 1 will give it their all.


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March 14, 2023, 09:40:00 PM
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we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.
And I think that will be the issue. That's the motive of the clause, to give Garcia a hard time.
After the weigh-ins, he should preserve that wait until fight night which means a lot of things. Powerless, stressed, and more. The effects will be lighter punches, exhaustion, and could easily get irritated which Davis could take advantage of. It sounds unfair but Davis' camp is using the rule book on their side especially knowing Garcia's body build is way too big for that weight class.
We will definitely see a KO here. Either Garcia will shock Davis because it didn't affect him or he will be lying in the mat because of the wittiness of his opponent using the "clause" as their upper hand.

I think that is the main goal on the camp of Tank Davis, they see Ryan as a very big 135 lbs so they have to insert that into the clause, that he can only add 10 lbs for rehydration, no more no less.

So they just want it to be fair for Davis, although for fans, it seems that Tank wanted to take advantage of Ryan Garcia. But it's a done deal already, Ryan is fine and definitely still has the height and reach advantage. Power might be the same, as well as the speed. So maybe whomever make the first mistake, but suffer that knock/down or out.

It's fair enough for both camps because both of them used a favor as Ryan Garcia only wanted 136 catchweight fight instead of 135, so Davis's camp also made a rehydration clause because even if 136 is just a 1 pound shy, that will still matter for a guy like Garcia who is much taller and that is why Davis also got his own rule to overrule Garcia on that one. Now, as we can see, Davis have much more edge and probably one of the important factors why he can dominate Garcia as the latter is very much dehydrated.

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