Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[YuginKadoya]

I know this is not a big match but this event is on May 11, for everyone that is interested, with the Alimkhanuly vs. Butler and a Filipino boxer Vincent Astrolabio will be facing Jason Moloney on this event,

Alimkhanuly vs. Butler

Date & Time: Saturday 05.13.2023 at 08:00 PM ET
Promotion: Top Rank
Location: Stockton, California
Boxing Bouts: 6



WBO World Middleweight Title
MAIN EVENT
Janibek Alimkhanuly VS Steven Butler

WBO World Bantamweight Title
MAIN CARD
Jason Moloney VS Vincent Astrolabio
Gabriel Flores Jr. VS Derrick Murray
Robson Conceição VS Nicolas Polanco
Haven Brady Jr VS D'Angelo Fuentes
Javier Martinez VS Joeshon James

All information was from TAPOLOGY
(EDIT) Sorry wrong thread it should be on the MMA so I corrected my post here is the real boxing match

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[Kemarit]

150,000 audience in a big stadium where almost everyone is supporting Canelo Alvarez in his home Guadalajara Mexico.

That could be a record of sort now, 150,000 screaming fans of Canelo. As far as I can remember, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr can fill 50,000 fans easily during his prime as the number 1 fighter of Mexico.

Well, Canelo didn't let down his people and he performed great against Ryder. It's just that he cannot knock him out although he knocks him down once which I thought will end the fight. Ryder stood up and became a better boxer afterward and he fought well in the next half of the 12 rounds. Showing his tenacity and his heart to try and win it without any regrets.
He did make me a fan of his when he showed how tough he is even though he was all bloody and breathing in his mouth. That must've been hard for him to continue the fight.

Canelo still won in UD which is not questionable. I give 6 rounds for Canelo and 4 for Ryder, 2 ties.

Yeah, but still we wanted to see a good knockout coming from the hometown record, but Ryder has a tough chin and big heart so we should show him respect for that one. But then again, there could be arguments that Canelo might be affected of his hand injury as he might not throwing it 100% as he just wanted to test his hands.

So now we look for either another Mexican in David Benavidez or a rematch with Dmitri Bivol.

[Jawhead999]

WBO World Middleweight Title
MAIN EVENT
Janibek Alimkhanuly VS Steven Butler

WBO World Bantamweight Title
MAIN CARD
Jason Moloney VS Vincent Astrolabio

The main card seems bigger than the main event

No doubt Alimkhanuly is really strong if we look it from his stats, but Butler isn't really a weak boxer, but Alimkhanuly is a huge favorite since the odds is 1.03x and the odds for Butler is 11.00x. I still don't see Alimkhanuly will definitely win this fight, maybe upset could happen in this match.

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

[Japinat]

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Both boxers are viewed as the challenger since the WBO belt was recently vacated by the former undisputed Naoya Inoue and that means that the belt is vacant now, therefore, neither Astralabio nor Moloney is defending it.

Jason Moloney preferred the WBO belt because he got more chances of winning and getting the vacant belt rather than competing against Nonito Donaire for the vacant WBC belt where his chances are not that strong. But still, this Vincent Astrolabio is not a push over either and I'm currently leaning on him to upset the current favorite.

[btc_angela]

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Both boxers are viewed as the challenger since the WBO belt was recently vacated by the former undisputed Naoya Inoue and that means that the belt is vacant now, therefore, neither Astralabio nor Moloney is defending it.

Jason Moloney preferred the WBO belt because he got more chances of winning and getting the vacant belt rather than competing against Nonito Donaire for the vacant WBC belt where his chances are not that strong. But still, this Vincent Astrolabio is not a push over either and I'm currently leaning on him to upset the current favorite.

Correct, the WBO belt is vacant due to Inoue going up in weight. And since Moloney and Astrolabio are the #1 and #2 rated boxers in their division, it's just right that they are going to fight for the belt now. But I do agree that this fight might be better than the main event because this two boxers are well know as compare to Janibek Alimkhanuly VS Steven Butler, although it is also for the WBO middleweight belt.

So it will be a question whether we will see another upset and another Filipino being crowned as world champion. And this is fight week so for sure everyone here is going to watch this fight.

[jakelyson]

The main card seems bigger than the main event

No doubt Alimkhanuly is really strong if we look it from his stats, but Butler isn't really a weak boxer, but Alimkhanuly is a huge favorite since the odds is 1.03x and the odds for Butler is 11.00x. I still don't see Alimkhanuly will definitely win this fight, maybe upset could happen in this match.

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Yup! I agree, the truth is I really don't know Janibek Alimkhanuly and will surely research him, but Steven Butler at the young age of 27 has many bouts right now, the last year of 2022 he got 4 bouts in just 1 year and he won that fights after his defeat in the year 2019 against Ryota Murata, and 2021 against Jose de Jesus Macias, he decided to take 2022 to the next level and having 4 bouts in 1 year,

But the Main Card Jason Moloney against Vincent Astrolabio I also think is the main event, and if Vincent Astrolabio wins this he will be the WBO World Bantamweight champion, this title is vacant right now and he may take it home to the Philippines if he wins against Moloney surely it is going to be another belt for the country,

Both boxers are viewed as the challenger since the WBO belt was recently vacated by the former undisputed Naoya Inoue and that means that the belt is vacant now, therefore, neither Astralabio nor Moloney is defending it.

Jason Moloney preferred the WBO belt because he got more chances of winning and getting the vacant belt rather than competing against Nonito Donaire for the vacant WBC belt where his chances are not that strong. But still, this Vincent Astrolabio is not a push over either and I'm currently leaning on him to upset the current favorite.

Yup! It was the vacant belt of Naoya Inoue many want to take and these two fighters surely got a chance Jason Moloney quite has the edge in taking it but he can not underestimate the determination of a Filipino fighter that can surely comeback from any deficit, he was defeated by Naoya Inoue in the year 2020, as a challenger but right now he is taking a shot again,

 

[Fredomago]

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Both boxers are viewed as the challenger since the WBO belt was recently vacated by the former undisputed Naoya Inoue and that means that the belt is vacant now, therefore, neither Astralabio nor Moloney is defending it.

Jason Moloney preferred the WBO belt because he got more chances of winning and getting the vacant belt rather than competing against Nonito Donaire for the vacant WBC belt where his chances are not that strong. But still, this Vincent Astrolabio is not a push over either and I'm currently leaning on him to upset the current favorite.

Correct, the WBO belt is vacant due to Inoue going up in weight. And since Moloney and Astrolabio are the #1 and #2 rated boxers in their division, it's just right that they are going to fight for the belt now. But I do agree that this fight might be better than the main event because this two boxers are well know as compare to Janibek Alimkhanuly VS Steven Butler, although it is also for the WBO middleweight belt.

So it will be a question whether we will see another upset and another Filipino being crowned as world champion. And this is fight week so for sure everyone here is going to watch this fight.

I like that comment, after Tapales who knows another pinoy fighter will bring another belt and glory back to our country. It's been a while when both Pacquiao and Donaire, together with those well-known boxers, dominated these sports, though the winning chance is not that high as knowing Maloney's capabilities, he might dominate this fight.

But for sure, Astrolabio will not be there for nothing. He will also try everything to steal this win from Maloney.

For now, we are just going to wait if what are the strategy is from both Maloney and Astrolabio and how they will going to execute to win.

[Questat]

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Both boxers are viewed as the challenger since the WBO belt was recently vacated by the former undisputed Naoya Inoue and that means that the belt is vacant now, therefore, neither Astralabio nor Moloney is defending it.

Jason Moloney preferred the WBO belt because he got more chances of winning and getting the vacant belt rather than competing against Nonito Donaire for the vacant WBC belt where his chances are not that strong. But still, this Vincent Astrolabio is not a push over either and I'm currently leaning on him to upset the current favorite.

Correct, the WBO belt is vacant due to Inoue going up in weight. And since Moloney and Astrolabio are the #1 and #2 rated boxers in their division, it's just right that they are going to fight for the belt now. But I do agree that this fight might be better than the main event because this two boxers are well know as compare to Janibek Alimkhanuly VS Steven Butler, although it is also for the WBO middleweight belt.

So it will be a question whether we will see another upset and another Filipino being crowned as world champion. And this is fight week so for sure everyone here is going to watch this fight.

I like that comment, after Tapales who knows another pinoy fighter will bring another belt and glory back to our country. It's been a while when both Pacquiao and Donaire, together with those well-known boxers, dominated these sports, though the winning chance is not that high as knowing Maloney's capabilities, he might dominate this fight.

But for sure, Astrolabio will not be there for nothing. He will also try everything to steal this win from Maloney.

For now, we are just going to wait if what are the strategy is from both Maloney and Astrolabio and how they will going to execute to win.

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

[yazher]

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Due to his nice performance surprising his opponent to win the title in his last fight, he truly deserves a real contender this time so that he will be well prepared and gonna consider training harder than before because he is now starting to make some noise in their current weight division. And if he can show a great performance that will gonna shock the boxing world in his next fight, he will instantly gain huge numbers of fans that will gonna make him an instant celebrity in boxing. This is his chance and only a few names have reached this stage so far, he better not slack off and waste this chance to create his legacy in boxing.

[danherbias07]

Yeah, but still we wanted to see a good knockout coming from the hometown record, but Ryder has a tough chin and big heart so we should show him respect for that one. But then again, there could be arguments that Canelo might be affected of his hand injury as he might not throwing it 100% as he just wanted to test his hands.

So now we look for either another Mexican in David Benavidez or a rematch with Dmitri Bivol.

Very tough and I think Ryder can win other fights if only he learns to jab more because his toughness will be his key to winning against other guys won't have the same strong chin as him and if he could take advantage of them by hitting them more in a close range then he can win in UD or better, KO's if he lands most of those jabs.

But the Main Card Jason Moloney against Vincent Astrolabio I also think is the main event, and if Vincent Astrolabio wins this he will be the WBO World Bantamweight champion, this title is vacant right now and he may take it home to the Philippines if he wins against Moloney surely it is going to be another belt for the country,

Correct.
I was looking for the big main event this Saturday and I found none and here it is in the Main Card which I missed. I will definitely support our fellow Filipino boxer here. I want to see if another champion will be added to the list before the Donaire fight. He may be an underdog but so do Marlon Tapales when he fought Murodjon Akhmadaliev and won in a split decision.
@2.04 for Astrolabi and @1.76 for Moloney. It's not that much of a difference and I think he has a good chance to get the WBO bantamweight title.

[Japinat]

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Both boxers are viewed as the challenger since the WBO belt was recently vacated by the former undisputed Naoya Inoue and that means that the belt is vacant now, therefore, neither Astralabio nor Moloney is defending it.

Jason Moloney preferred the WBO belt because he got more chances of winning and getting the vacant belt rather than competing against Nonito Donaire for the vacant WBC belt where his chances are not that strong. But still, this Vincent Astrolabio is not a push over either and I'm currently leaning on him to upset the current favorite.

Correct, the WBO belt is vacant due to Inoue going up in weight. And since Moloney and Astrolabio are the #1 and #2 rated boxers in their division, it's just right that they are going to fight for the belt now. But I do agree that this fight might be better than the main event because this two boxers are well know as compare to Janibek Alimkhanuly VS Steven Butler, although it is also for the WBO middleweight belt.

So it will be a question whether we will see another upset and another Filipino being crowned as world champion. And this is fight week so for sure everyone here is going to watch this fight.

I like that comment, after Tapales who knows another pinoy fighter will bring another belt and glory back to our country. It's been a while when both Pacquiao and Donaire, together with those well-known boxers, dominated these sports, though the winning chance is not that high as knowing Maloney's capabilities, he might dominate this fight.

But for sure, Astrolabio will not be there for nothing. He will also try everything to steal this win from Maloney.

For now, we are just going to wait if what are the strategy is from both Maloney and Astrolabio and how they will going to execute to win.

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Boxing should be like this more often, champions of the respective division should vacate the belt already if they don't have any other things to do and they should try and push themselves to the limit to know their real capabilities up until there's a boxer who is willing to fight them, like the interim title holders. Instead, other boxers in different divisions are taking the belts as their hostage which deprived the other boxer's right to have a challenge for that belt.

If they don't want to fight, they should just vacate it because there's a lot more boxers in every single division who are willing to touch and hold those belts and willing to fight for it. These champions surely know the feeling what it is like when they were the ones who are waiting for their turn but unfortunately, when it's their turn already, they've become addicted to it and they aren't willing to let go even if they aren't making any new fights.

Hopefully, this kind of tradition will change. I know it's a business but it is an entertainment industry as well, they ought to give the people what they deserve because it is the people who made them rich and famous in the first place.

[Kasabus]

If they don't want to fight, they should just vacate it because there's a lot more boxers in every single division who are willing to touch and hold those belts and willing to fight for it. These champions surely know the feeling what it is like when they were the ones who are waiting for their turn but unfortunately, when it's their turn already, they've become addicted to it and they aren't willing to let go even if they aren't making any new fights.

Easy to say though but it's actually not that easy to do because there are a lot of factors that they should consider first before taking a step and aside from the current boxing champions, their promoters, network affiliations and even the organizers are not willing to let go of them because they knew that they could amass a lot of money from making their fights even if it is just a single fight per year. Having a new champion is risky for their business because it's not everyday you can make a champion who can attract a lot of people's attention.

[Jawhead999]

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Tapales isn't in the same division like both Moloney and Astrolabio, Tapales is super bantamweight division while both of Moloney and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division. The only one big fight for Tapales is the winner of either Inoue or Fulton, I think there's will be no politic in this fight because Inoue is really like a new challenge and Fulton seems not to be have a strict organizer.

[inthelongrun]

...So now we look for either another Mexican in David Benavidez or a rematch with Dmitri Bivol.

I observed that most people online are demanding a Canelo vs Benavidez fight. This fight would be huge although all fights for Canelo are big even if its opponents are not from the top. As for Canelo's earlier quote about not fighting another Mexican, well I guess Benavidez has no Mexican citizenship and is born in the US so maybe this fight will happen.

So far, there's nothing that changed about Canelo's response on who's next ever since his loss to Bivol. Bivol has already accepted the challenge of fighting for the undisputed belts at 168 but Canelo is stubborn and wants the rematch at 175 for Bivol's WBA belt. Bivol will put him to school once again but I am hoping for the champion to be more aggressive and try hurting Canelo because these corrupt judges will always try to change the outcome when the superstar is losing.

[Kemarit]

...So now we look for either another Mexican in David Benavidez or a rematch with Dmitri Bivol.

I observed that most people online are demanding a Canelo vs Benavidez fight. This fight would be huge although all fights for Canelo are big even if its opponents are not from the top. As for Canelo's earlier quote about not fighting another Mexican, well I guess Benavidez has no Mexican citizenship and is born in the US so maybe this fight will happen.

I'm in with Canelo vs Benavidez right, Canelo should go with David and proved everything wrong that he is past his prime. Benadivez Sr, says that Canelo looks terrible against John Ryder and people in Mexico expecting him to score a knockout and that Mexicans are disappointed with the Canelo performance. So for sure Canelo and his camp read this comment from Sr., so let's see if they will choose a young fighter or rematch Bivol.

So far, there's nothing that changed about Canelo's response on who's next ever since his loss to Bivol. Bivol has already accepted the challenge of fighting for the undisputed belts at 168 but Canelo is stubborn and wants the rematch at 175 for Bivol's WBA belt. Bivol will put him to school once again but I am hoping for the champion to be more aggressive and try hurting Canelo because these corrupt judges will always try to change the outcome when the superstar is losing.

He will be in a lose-lose situation at a 168 lbs fight with Bivol. He knows his critics will say that he weight drain Bivol and then him fighting at his comfortable weight. Canelo knows this that's why he insists at 175 lbs. So that he can capture that belt again and cemented his greatness.

[danherbias07]

A boxer's life is always on the line.

4 days ago, a young boxer Kenneth Egano from General Santos City, Philippines won a fight against Jason Facularin in Imus, Cavite Philippines. Upon winning, he didn't even have the energy to be on the referee's side to raise his hands or even heard the announcer that he won the fight because he was already in the corner collapsed, and being tended by his team.
He was rushed to the hospital and was in a coma for 4 days before he died today. 22 years old. So young and has so much future ahead of him.

Manny Pacquiao covered all the expenses for his recovery but there was nothing they could do to save him. Another sad day for Philippine boxing.
This is a reminder that we cannot just underestimate what the boxers are risking when they step on the ring.

[carlisle1]

This is a reminder that we cannot just underestimate what the boxers are risking when they step on the ring.

Sad true! Each time a fighter step inside the ring, he is risking his own life just to fulfil his dream and to entertain those people/fans who
believes that he can win the fight and he can pursue his career.

It's something that this young fighter wanted to be achieved, but his fate has already been dictated after that win, he's no longer can fight, but the memory
of a such young fighter trying to make his way into this sport is something will always be remembered.

[Yaunfitda]

A boxer's life is always on the line.

4 days ago, a young boxer Kenneth Egano from General Santos City, Philippines won a fight against Jason Facularin in Imus, Cavite Philippines. Upon winning, he didn't even have the energy to be on the referee's side to raise his hands or even heard the announcer that he won the fight because he was already in the corner collapsed, and being tended by his team.
He was rushed to the hospital and was in a coma for 4 days before he died today. 22 years old. So young and has so much future ahead of him.

Manny Pacquiao covered all the expenses for his recovery but there was nothing they could do to save him. Another sad day for Philippine boxing.
This is a reminder that we cannot just underestimate what the boxers are risking when they step on the ring.

Yes, I read about that event, and it's really sad to hear someone died inside the ring and at a very young age of 22 years. We didn't see the full potential of this boxer, but it's an accident that no one saw coming, this is not his first fight.

But it's good that the legendary boxer, Manny Pacquiao who is the even organizer did everything he can here. And it's true, every time they step in the right, half of their feet is already 6th feet under and that's why there are boxers like Floyd who played defense and doesn't like to be hit or boxers asking big money because they know that it could be their last one.

[inthelongrun]

...So now we look for either another Mexican in David Benavidez or a rematch with Dmitri Bivol.

I observed that most people online are demanding a Canelo vs Benavidez fight. This fight would be huge although all fights for Canelo are big even if its opponents are not from the top. As for Canelo's earlier quote about not fighting another Mexican, well I guess Benavidez has no Mexican citizenship and is born in the US so maybe this fight will happen.

I'm in with Canelo vs Benavidez right, Canelo should go with David and proved everything wrong that he is past his prime. Benadivez Sr, says that Canelo looks terrible against John Ryder and people in Mexico expecting him to score a knockout and that Mexicans are disappointed with the Canelo performance. So for sure Canelo and his camp read this comment from Sr., so let's see if they will choose a young fighter or rematch Bivol.

Well, for the record, Canelo wants the more difficult fight which is Bivol rather than Benavidez. I don't know if it is really due to his pride or if he knows that win or lose, there's still Benavidez waiting for him at 168. Unless the WBC will strip Canelo of his belt since Benavidez is mandatory which is actually long overdue. And Canelo's rematch clause with Bivol might be enough reason for the WBC to wait. The WBC will lick Canelo's balls anyways just to get that sanctioning fee percentage from his huge purse.

Personally, I also prefer Canelo vs Benavidez because it is something new. Bivol is just too technical and smart for Canelo and it will be the same outcome, a one-sided victory. At least Benavidez is defensively flawed but he carries a huge KO percentage that can hurt Canelo if he gets hit. 

So far, there's nothing that changed about Canelo's response on who's next ever since his loss to Bivol. Bivol has already accepted the challenge of fighting for the undisputed belts at 168 but Canelo is stubborn and wants the rematch at 175 for Bivol's WBA belt. Bivol will put him to school once again but I am hoping for the champion to be more aggressive and try hurting Canelo because these corrupt judges will always try to change the outcome when the superstar is losing.

He will be in a lose-lose situation at a 168 lbs fight with Bivol. He knows his critics will say that he weight drain Bivol and then him fighting at his comfortable weight. Canelo knows this that's why he insists at 175 lbs. So that he can capture that belt again and cemented his greatness.

Fair enough. And losing to Bivol at 168 means he will no longer become a champion. And since all the belts will be held by Bivol, it will be very difficult for Canelo to fight for a belt to hype his PPV fights.

[freedomgo]

...So now we look for either another Mexican in David Benavidez or a rematch with Dmitri Bivol.

I observed that most people online are demanding a Canelo vs Benavidez fight. This fight would be huge although all fights for Canelo are big even if its opponents are not from the top. As for Canelo's earlier quote about not fighting another Mexican, well I guess Benavidez has no Mexican citizenship and is born in the US so maybe this fight will happen.

Yes, I agree. A fight between Canelo and Benavidez will attract more people rather than a fight versus Bivol for the rematch, people already know the likelihood of the outcome and besides, after watching Canelo's fight recently in his tune-up, he's not that explosive anymore that is why it's better for him to give the chance towards the kid rather than face an inevitable loss from Bivol.

So far, there's nothing that changed about Canelo's response on who's next ever since his loss to Bivol. Bivol has already accepted the challenge of fighting for the undisputed belts at 168 but Canelo is stubborn and wants the rematch at 175 for Bivol's WBA belt. Bivol will put him to school once again but I am hoping for the champion to be more aggressive and try hurting Canelo because these corrupt judges will always try to change the outcome when the superstar is losing.

No doubt, I mean look at his recent performance against John Ryder, that is surely not the Canelo we've known and facing Bivol right away will just add another embarrassment to his career and a loss as well. If he will pursue Bivol then it's clear that it's a redemption fight for Canelo but it's funny because he is not willing to risk his belts at 168 and still choose 175 where they first fought.