Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Leaked Documents Reveal Depth of U.S. Spy Efforts and Russia’s Military Struggles

Lol. You just screwed up with NATO's eastward expansion and now you're dragging a leak from a closed "Bear vs. Pig" chat here to build on your success?

Huh?  I guess you didn't actually read any of my posts in either situation proving all of what you said is false.

Dude, this is not a vegetable market, but a forum - and the arguments on the forum are usually not counted, but weighed. If you repeated nonsense several times, it did not become true, no matter how much you would like it. Your prooflink was weak, besides, you yourself guessed from it what was allegedly meant there. It doesn't work that way.

Its fun to watch how MSM is exaggerating anti-Russian parts of leak, while downplaying or not reporting
on anti-USA parts of it (spying on all allies and even UN, for example, or NATO personnel actually been
present on the battlefield)

[paxmao]

Leaked Documents Reveal Depth of U.S. Spy Efforts and Russia’s Military Struggles

Lol. You just screwed up with NATO's eastward expansion and now you're dragging a leak from a closed "Bear vs. Pig" chat here to build on your success?

Huh?  I guess you didn't actually read any of my posts in either situation proving all of what you said is false.

Dude, this is not a vegetable market, but a forum - and the arguments on the forum are usually not counted, but weighed. If you repeated nonsense several times, it did not become true, no matter how much you would like it. Your prooflink was weak, besides, you yourself guessed from it what was allegedly meant there. It doesn't work that way.

Its fun to watch how MSM is exaggerating anti-Russian parts of leak, while downplaying or not reporting
on anti-USA parts of it (spying on all allies and even UN, for example, or NATO personnel actually been
present on the battlefield)

Branko, I have a leaked document from a US spy that posted it on a "Just Dance" app forum. It has 500 pages and depicts the plan of the US to dissolve NATO, remove all its military bases, do an unconditional surrender to Putin's government and hand over the government to the United States to an oligarch of Putin's choice. Also, the army will be dismissed and the weapons handed over to Iran. Isn't it great!  An all of it is so true!

Now seriously, we do not need a leaked document to know that all countries spy on each other. If I was sending billions in aid to Ukraine, I would certainly be spying Zelensky, all his friends, family and even his dog. I am more concerned with the US selling HIMARS to Morocco, which is true and really weird.

Leaked Documents Reveal Depth of U.S. Spy Efforts and Russia’s Military Struggles

Lol. You just screwed up with NATO's eastward expansion and now you're dragging a leak from a closed "Bear vs. Pig" chat here to build on your success?

Huh?  I guess you didn't actually read any of my posts in either situation proving all of what you said is false.

Dude, this is not a vegetable market, but a forum - and the arguments on the forum are usually not counted, but weighed. If you repeated nonsense several times, it did not become true, no matter how much you would like it. Your prooflink was weak, besides, you yourself guessed from it what was allegedly meant there. It doesn't work that way.

I think your comments tend to disprove themselves. Like "screwed NATO westward expansion"... You do know that the RF has added a new 1340 km long border with NATO (Finland) thanks to your marvellous leaders? That is screwing up. An the Finish may be eager to reclaim the land that Russia stole from them.

It is quite problematicto be seen as a expansionist empire. All the sudden all those neighbours in the block stop saying hi and look at you like a pest.

EDITED: I just learned that the patriotic May parades in Kursk and Belgorod have been cancelled. Why? Is Putin not able to guarantee the safety of Russians in its own territory or is he afraid that someone will smoke again by a fuel depot?

[BADecker]

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia. They realize that their leaders are only joining Nato to make a show for the US and other Nato countries. This whole thing only shows how badly the US and Nato are failing... that they would pull a stunt like this to attempt to make themselves look good in the eyes of ignorant people in the US and many Nato countries.

[tvbcof]

Where's that Ukrainian 'greatest counter-offensive' we've been hearing about?  Last week it was bad weather.  This week it's something about new gear and saving Bakhmut or some such.  'Excuses are like assholes', so they say.
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Yes, no Ukrainian offensive is planned, do not worry. Just keep on throwing the official "truth" here and keep on attacking Bakhmut - it is very important for the RF to conquer another flattened town that is in the middle of nowhere and in artillery range from the other side of the river. You do not have to worry about the nearly state of the art nearly 100 main battle tanks coming from US and Europe and those few hundred IMFV. That is just for defence, so no offensive planned in the next few weeks.

Sleep well, read the Pravda, listen to Radio Moscow and keep drinking Stolichnaya.

What's this week's excuse?  Bad weather again?  Whatever the case, it looks like Russia is keeping the narrow muddy door open to Bakhmut for the 'greatest stupidest unblocking operation' if Ukraine ever gets around to it.  But nobody can wait forever.

Excuse? No invasion is planned. You are just fine and do not have to worry about the Ukranian troops currently on training in Poland, Letonia, US, UK,... they are just training for fun. It does not matter is the Bakmuth attack is stalled because nothing is happening. As said, just keep on throwing resources and wagner's convicts into the crossfire there.

I'm sure that Ukraine would be shelling Moscow from the outskirts now if it wasn't for that gosh darn weather.  I guess that's their excuse again this week month too, eh?

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia. They realize that their leaders are only joining Nato to make a show for the US and other Nato countries. This whole thing only shows how badly the US and Nato are failing... that they would pull a stunt like this to attempt to make themselves look good in the eyes of ignorant people in the US and many Nato countries.

One of these days people are going to figure out that there is a VERY strong correlation between main heads-of-state pushing globalist policy (esp, the Ukraine technocracy project) and the WEF's 'Young Global Leaders' program.  That exceptionally noticeable in Canada, New Zealand, Poland, Finland, etc.  Even when the main one is not known to be a SatanKlaus flunky, Schwab brags that they control most 'free world' leader's cabinets.

These 'Young Global Leader' inductees do a two-weeker training camp thing and seem to sometimes come out of it with unusually strong bonds between certain members.  I shudder to think what goes on in the main camp or the various other junkets where they meet up in person and in private.

I've got my fingers crossed that enough people will finally notice what's going on one of these days and reject (and hopefully hang) some of these WEF creeps who are destroying their nations.  It's kind of a race at this point between recognition on the part of the peeps, and the totalitarian surveillance grid that the WEF is putting in place and which could well make it almost impossible to ever be able to excise the cancer.

[o48o]

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia. They realize that their leaders are only joining Nato to make a show for the US and other Nato countries. This whole thing only shows how badly the US and Nato are failing... that they would pull a stunt like this to attempt to make themselves look good in the eyes of ignorant people in the US and many Nato countries.

You don't know what you are talking about. Our finnish "leaders" didn't decide to join to NATO without the approval of citizens (as if you knew how our goverment would work)- It was an overwhelming majority of the Finnish people who wanted in, that's one of the main reasons why our leading party changed their mind about joining. I know several people that were very much anti nato before 2014 Crimean crisis, and Russia attacking Ukraine was a last straw for majority of the people. If you think we wouldn't be in danger without nato you obviously haven't followed Kremlin propaganda. We have to. They were paving a way for Finland too. That woud have been just a matter of time. That's why we wanted in as fast as possible.

[TwitchySeal]

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia.

Yes, that's why they joined NATO.

[paxmao]

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia. They realize that their leaders are only joining Nato to make a show for the US and other Nato countries. This whole thing only shows how badly the US and Nato are failing... that they would pull a stunt like this to attempt to make themselves look good in the eyes of ignorant people in the US and many Nato countries.

Si vis pacem, parabellum. That is why NATO grows, not because the members want to go to war, but precisely because they do not want to.

Finland is a democracy, their "leaders" are elected and demoted when no longer liked. I know this is hard for you to understand.

Where's that Ukrainian 'greatest counter-offensive' we've been hearing about?  Last week it was bad weather.  This week it's something about new gear and saving Bakhmut or some such.  'Excuses are like assholes', so they say.
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Yes, no Ukrainian offensive is planned, do not worry. Just keep on throwing the official "truth" here and keep on attacking Bakhmut - it is very important for the RF to conquer another flattened town that is in the middle of nowhere and in artillery range from the other side of the river. You do not have to worry about the nearly state of the art nearly 100 main battle tanks coming from US and Europe and those few hundred IMFV. That is just for defence, so no offensive planned in the next few weeks.

Sleep well, read the Pravda, listen to Radio Moscow and keep drinking Stolichnaya.

What's this week's excuse?  Bad weather again?  Whatever the case, it looks like Russia is keeping the narrow muddy door open to Bakhmut for the 'greatest stupidest unblocking operation' if Ukraine ever gets around to it.  But nobody can wait forever.

Excuse? No invasion is planned. You are just fine and do not have to worry about the Ukranian troops currently on training in Poland, Letonia, US, UK,... they are just training for fun. It does not matter is the Bakmuth attack is stalled because nothing is happening. As said, just keep on throwing resources and wagner's convicts into the crossfire there.

I'm sure that Ukraine would be shelling Moscow from the outskirts now if it wasn't for that gosh darn weather.  I guess that's their excuse again this week month too, eh?
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Excuse meaning like... what? Sound like you are arguing that there will be no Ukrainian offensive? Good, good,... drink well, sleep well, listen to the comfort juice in official TV ... nothing will happen. Ukraine does not have western weapons, their people are not trained,  go to the parade in Belgorod... wherever it has not been cancelled.

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia. They realize that their leaders are only joining Nato to make a show for the US and other Nato countries. This whole thing only shows how badly the US and Nato are failing... that they would pull a stunt like this to attempt to make themselves look good in the eyes of ignorant people in the US and many Nato countries.

You don't know what you are talking about. Our finnish "leaders" didn't decide to join to NATO without the approval of citizens (as if you knew how our goverment would work)- It was an overwhelming majority of the Finnish people who wanted in, that's one of the main reasons why our leading party changed their mind about joining. I know several people that were very much anti nato before 2014 Crimean crisis, and Russia attacking Ukraine was a last straw for majority of the people. If you think we wouldn't be in danger without nato you obviously haven't followed Kremlin propaganda. We have to. They were paving a way for Finland too. That woud have been just a matter of time. That's why we wanted in as fast as possible.

It is of no use, they do not understand the concept of the people taking ownership of their decisions. They just believe in autocrats taking the decision for them so that they do not have to think for themselves - too hard, better to be babies for life and let dad take the decisions.

^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia.

Yes, that's why they joined NATO.

Spot on. And because they were attacked by the old USSR not that long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Do you think that if the RF implodes again like with the Tzars in WW I, then with Gorby Finland could take the opportunity to recover the stolen land?

[BADecker]

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^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia.

Yes, that's why they joined NATO.

Spot on. And because they were attacked by the old USSR not that long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Do you think that if the RF implodes again like with the Tzars in WW I, then with Gorby Finland could take the opportunity to recover the stolen land?

Finland stupidity. Yank the tail of a bear already fighting, and who is arming up for major war? GET IT ON, RUSSIA!

Russia isn't fast enough for you. Push yourselves into becoming part of a new USSR that Russia tried to drop over 3 decades ago. You Finland jokers are really asking for it. And the Twitchyseal prompting that is making is seem okay, is something that will give him a good laugh when Russia slaps Finland.

[paxmao]

The fact that Ukraine is attacking the early detection radars and interference systems or the RF army does not mean anything. The fact that this same thing happened before the previous Ukraine offensive does not mean anything. Nothing will happen, Ukraine has no troops, there will be no offensive. All in RF, drink, go to the parades and watch the official news. All is going perfect in the frontlines.

If you want I can leak a few NATO documents proving all this, so that you can sleep tight?

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^^^ The people of Finland aren't interested in a fight against Russia.

Yes, that's why they joined NATO.

Spot on. And because they were attacked by the old USSR not that long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Do you think that if the RF implodes again like with the Tzars in WW I, then with Gorby Finland could take the opportunity to recover the stolen land?

Finland stupidity. Yank the tail of a bear already fighting, and who is arming up for major war?...

You need to improve your "metaphoring" skills. Finland is not twisting a tail, is joining the rest of the species that do not want to be eaten. Your argument is "you have to be scared of RF, so the best thing you can do is to stay very quiet and try not to get noticed". You are a coward, but also a very impractical one.

[tvbcof]

One (or two?) of the 8 Leopard tanks Germany finally allowed the Ukroids to touch eats the big one:

  Polish Soldier Says He Never Saw Such Amateurish Tank Drivers As Ukrainians Who Destroyed Leopard
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/ten10CmdclRO/

How the damage occurred is at about 0:37.

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What I find quite interesting is how the Russian trenches seem to be clean and organized.  Almost without exception it seems like the Ukrainian positions look like total shit-holes with trash all over the place, and no, it doesn't seem to be only the ones which were destroyed by the Russians.  These tend to also be littered also with rotting corpses and body parts.

Seems like the Ukrainians will sometimes evacuate partially alive soldiers who might have some organs to sell, but wish to leave the dead in-situ.  It's said that this is because they don't have to count them that way or pay out benefits to the families.

The soldiers themselves also seem to be very different.  Here again the Russians and even the Wagner mercs seem to be mentally coherent, reasonably healthy, and organized.  In contrast, the Ukrainians seem to be drugged out, filthy, and often enough coughing up sputum.  Maybe the health problems from testing on the local populations who lived around the CIA-run biological weapons labs scattered about the country.

One would think that with $100,000,000,000 in American tax dollars, at least the Ukrainians could make themselves look half-way decent, but I guess the corruption sucks up almost all of the money before it touches the front lines, and even if it got there it's not clear that it would help make the army more professional.

I started out with a lot more sympathy for the Ukrainians who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got picked up for bullet-stopper duty by the Ziocon commissars.  As time goes by it does kind of seem like I may have over-estimated the ratio of decent Ukrainians to simple scum-of-the-earth swastika-bearing dirtbags.  No self-respecting person would risk even one butt-hair fighting for a sleaze-ball like Zelenskj.  I still would like to see this thing finish off and the suffering subside, but I have to consider 'then what?' for the Ukrainian population who seem to have degenerated into a truly disturbing form of humanity at the hands of first the Soviet Communists then the Western influences.  Awful as it sounds, if they are de-populated by the the cooperation between Ziocons + Russia, there is one less problem to worry about going forward.  My sense is even Ukraine's 'friends' (e.g., Poland and the various Western woke-tards) basically feel the same way about the Ukrainians as a people, but it's currently not the right time to say much about it.

I know for sure that there are decent Ukrainian people because I know some of them, but in all honesty the only ones I know left Ukraine at the first opportunity and don't seem to be looking back.  Now I understand better why.  On top of that, I believe that the Ziocon hidden leadership of Ukraine want the rest of 'the nations' to feel revulsion at what Ukraine had become precisely so that people would feel a lack of empathy for Ukrainians when it came time to do the de-population and clearing out of the lands to make way for the 'world to come'.  To a degree I myself have fallen victim to their psy-op.

[BADecker]

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Finland stupidity. Yank the tail of a bear already fighting, and who is arming up for major war?...

You need to improve your "metaphoring" skills. Finland is not twisting a tail, is joining the rest of the species that do not want to be eaten. Your argument is "you have to be scared of RF, so the best thing you can do is to stay very quiet and try not to get noticed". You are a coward, but also a very impractical one.

You talk so funny. Finland joins Nato. What better way to yank the tail of the already-warring bear? And then add a stupid, little fence that couldn't do anything, except tease the bear whose tail you are already yanking.

It's the fluoride the Finnish government puts in the free Finnish drinking water. It affects the brain, by dumbing it down, so that most Finns don't eve recognize what they are doing to themselves.

[paxmao]

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Finland stupidity. Yank the tail of a bear already fighting, and who is arming up for major war?...

You need to improve your "metaphoring" skills. Finland is not twisting a tail, is joining the rest of the species that do not want to be eaten. Your argument is "you have to be scared of RF, so the best thing you can do is to stay very quiet and try not to get noticed". You are a coward, but also a very impractical one.

You talk so funny. Finland joins Nato. What better way to yank the tail of the already-warring bear? And then add a stupid, little fence that couldn't do anything, except tease the bear whose tail you are already yanking.

[blah ... blah... unproven statements, conspiracies...etc...]

The bear does not need twist tailing, is already an aggressive and expansionistic. The only thing that they seem to respect if sheer power. Like the one they could face if they attack NATO an article 5 makes it equivalent to an attack to all members.

You have no argument other than "be scared, do as told, do not defend yourself". It never made sense, but after the RF attacking Ukraine and trying to overturn the government, makes even less sense.

[TwitchySeal]

One (or two?) of the 8 Leopard tanks Germany finally allowed the Ukroids to touch eats the big one:

  Polish Soldier Says He Never Saw Such Amateurish Tank Drivers As Ukrainians Who Destroyed Leopard
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/ten10CmdclRO/

How the damage occurred is at about 0:37.

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What I find quite interesting is how the Russian trenches seem to be clean and organized.  Almost without exception it seems like the Ukrainian positions look like total shit-holes with trash all over the place, and no, it doesn't seem to be only the ones which were destroyed by the Russians.  These tend to also be littered also with rotting corpses and body parts.

Seems like the Ukrainians will sometimes evacuate partially alive soldiers who might have some organs to sell, but wish to leave the dead in-situ.  It's said that this is because they don't have to count them that way or pay out benefits to the families.

The soldiers themselves also seem to be very different.  Here again the Russians and even the Wagner mercs seem to be mentally coherent, reasonably healthy, and organized.  In contrast, the Ukrainians seem to be drugged out, filthy, and often enough coughing up sputum.  Maybe the health problems from testing on the local populations who lived around the CIA-run biological weapons labs scattered about the country.

One would think that with $100,000,000,000 in American tax dollars, at least the Ukrainians could make themselves look half-way decent, but I guess the corruption sucks up almost all of the money before it touches the front lines, and even if it got there it's not clear that it would help make the army more professional.

I started out with a lot more sympathy for the Ukrainians who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got picked up for bullet-stopper duty by the Ziocon commissars.  As time goes by it does kind of seem like I may have over-estimated the ratio of decent Ukrainians to simple scum-of-the-earth swastika-bearing dirtbags.  No self-respecting person would risk even one butt-hair fighting for a sleaze-ball like Zelenskj.  I still would like to see this thing finish off and the suffering subside, but I have to consider 'then what?' for the Ukrainian population who seem to have degenerated into a truly disturbing form of humanity at the hands of first the Soviet Communists then the Western influences.  Awful as it sounds, if they are de-populated by the the cooperation between Ziocons + Russia, there is one less problem to worry about going forward.  My sense is even Ukraine's 'friends' (e.g., Poland and the various Western woke-tards) basically feel the same way about the Ukrainians as a people, but it's currently not the right time to say much about it.

I know for sure that there are decent Ukrainian people because I know some of them, but in all honesty the only ones I know left Ukraine at the first opportunity and don't seem to be looking back.  Now I understand better why.  On top of that, I believe that the Ziocon hidden leadership of Ukraine want the rest of 'the nations' to feel revulsion at what Ukraine had become precisely so that people would feel a lack of empathy for Ukrainians when it came time to do the de-population and clearing out of the lands to make way for the 'world to come'.  To a degree I myself have fallen victim to their psy-op.

What I find interesting is how unprepared for war Russian soldiers seem to be and how organized and efficient Ukraine is.  The fact that their still in it more than a year later, not to mention forcing Russia to likely begin a second round of mobilization is incredible.  The whole world thought Kieve would fall in a matter of weeks if not days. Their biggest problem is morale.  Imagine getting thrown on a bus and given a 70 year old weapon and not enough clothing to keep warm without any food to fight a war that makes no sense for man that will throw you in jail if you criticize him.

Not surprisingly, drunk soldiers is a serious issue Russia is having to deal with according to British intelligence.

[paxmao]

Nothing seems to be happening south of Orikhiv. I writing this because there seems to be one guy insisting in saying that the Ukrainian army is advancing in the area and destroying the first line of defence of the RF army, but that cannot be true. It would show in the maps and the official news in Russia would be speaking about it. I guess is just the fog of war and misinformation.

It is not like the 37th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade has withdraw 15 kilometers back, is it?

South of Vuhledar the weather is fine, no rain, partly cloudy and a beautiful day to go picnic. I guess that would be a wise decision for the RF troops in the area. Go to Moscow, drink, eat, have fun... There is nothing happening there.

[tvbcof]

Nothing seems to be happening south of Orikhiv. I writing this because there seems to be one guy insisting in saying that the Ukrainian army is advancing in the area and destroying the first line of defence of the RF army, but that cannot be true. It would show in the maps and the official news in Russia would be speaking about it. I guess is just the fog of war and misinformation.

It is not like the 37th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade has withdraw 15 kilometers back, is it?

South of Vuhledar the weather is fine, no rain, partly cloudy and a beautiful day to go picnic. I guess that would be a wise decision for the RF troops in the area. Go to Moscow, drink, eat, have fun... There is nothing happening there.

When the Ukrainians easily break through the Russian lines, the Ukrainians should totally go for it.  The Russians will be totally shattered and terrified and in a panic to get back to the East of the Ural mountains.  That will be the opportunity for Ukraine to go all-in.  Defiantly don't worry about the nay-sayers who warn of Mongolian tactics and any sort of a trap.  Such people are just Russian stooges for sure.

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Meanwhile looks like the Russians may have not only brought down a (retired) NASA satellite, but landed the debris right on top of the city of Kiev.  Pretty nifty trick considering that Russia is so primitive that they have to storm trenches armed only with shovels.

[Grasper]

Interesting voting in the Duma. The RF seems to be doing so well and having so much success that from now on the citizens can be notified of them being mobilised by an "email" (short of) and, just in case, they are no longer allowed to remove or delete their account from the electronic system of the government (most have an account).

So... yes, they have played the "patriotic card", then the "good pay" card, then the "slave army" card, then the "pardon for criminals" card... and there it goes a new one "you cannot scape" card. Who knows, maybe even some of the people from Moscow and St Petersburg might be mobilised.

Needless to say that this is about the Kremlin psychos noticing that the Ukrainian offensive to recover their land may go as far as breaking the bridge to Crimea. Bad news is that modern warfare is not about throwing meat into the grinder. BTW, this is a recognition of "being at war" since, none of this can be legally done unless at war.

Yep, the deputies of the State Duma adopted in the third reading a law that they didn’t even read (they had less than an hour to get acquainted with the voluminous package of amendments).

I think that in Russia in the foreseeable future there will be a second wave of partial mobilization, and for Ukraine this is bad news. There will be no peace talks, there is no one to negotiate with. Ukraine will suffer a military defeat.

So, somehow the fact that Putin had to mobilise more soldiers to launch into the meat grinder is "good news" for the RF? Oh well, you must be very sure that you will not be one of the lucky winners of the one-way ticket to the front.

The rest is just blah, blah... all wars end with peace talks and the RF is facing so many challenges that it may just have to stop whether Putin is happy with it or not. It is of no use to have another wave of soldiers if they do not have the means to fight in a modern war and have to keep on using WW II tactics and trench war for each meter of land.

I guess you missed leaked USA documents proving all you just said is false?

Leaked Documents Reveal Depth of U.S. Spy Efforts and Russia’s Military Struggles

The documents portray a battered Russian military that is struggling in its war in Ukraine and a military apparatus that is deeply compromised. They contain daily real-time warnings to American intelligence agencies on the timing of Moscow’s strikes and even its specific targets. Such intelligence has allowed the United States to pass on to Ukraine crucial information on how to defend itself.

One document reports the Russians have suffered 189,500 to 223,000 casualties, including up to 43,000 killed in action.

The leaked document says that as of February, Ukraine had suffered 124,500 to 131,000 casualties, with up to 17,500 killed in action.

Another entry discusses a report in February disseminated by Russia’s National Defense Command Center about the “decreased combat capability” of Russia’s forces in Eastern Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/08/us/politics/leaked-documents-russia-ukraine-war.html

This leak is serious, it may be true or not but definitely shows Russia is losing this war unless for the destruction that has been done inside Ukraine. Russia just killed those boys, girls, women and men like that in this heartless war that should have been avoided by a good hearted leader. Ukrainians did heroically and are better than Russians that are at the advantage to use drones and shelling techniques. The US and western allies will continue to support Ukraine and will not let the useless Putin win.

[paxmao]

Nothing seems to be happening south of Orikhiv. I writing this because there seems to be one guy insisting in saying that the Ukrainian army is advancing in the area and destroying the first line of defence of the RF army, but that cannot be true. It would show in the maps and the official news in Russia would be speaking about it. I guess is just the fog of war and misinformation.

It is not like the 37th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade has withdraw 15 kilometers back, is it?

South of Vuhledar the weather is fine, no rain, partly cloudy and a beautiful day to go picnic. I guess that would be a wise decision for the RF troops in the area. Go to Moscow, drink, eat, have fun... There is nothing happening there.

When the Ukrainians easily break through the Russian lines, the Ukrainians should totally go for it.  The Russians will be totally shattered and terrified and in a panic to get back to the East of the Ural mountains.  That will be the opportunity for Ukraine to go all-in.  Defiantly don't worry about the nay-sayers who warn of Mongolian tactics and any sort of a trap.  Such people are just Russian stooges for sure.

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Meanwhile looks like the Russians may have not only brought down a (retired) NASA satellite, but landed the debris right on top of the city of Kiev.  Pretty nifty trick considering that Russia is so primitive that they have to storm trenches armed only with shovels.

Do you think so? I also heard that they are able to invoke the god of the sun and create solar winds that jam the comms of the enemy while sun-tanning RF troops. It is so mysterious how such a powerful masters of the war are spending months in taking a small to mid size city from the unprepared and technologically inferior Ukranians. Oh... hold on.. I get it... it is a Mongolian strategy!!!

[Franctoshi]

You don't know what you are talking about. Our finnish "leaders" didn't decide to join to NATO without the approval of citizens (as if you knew how our goverment would work)- It was an overwhelming majority of the Finnish people who wanted in, that's one of the main reasons why our leading party changed their mind about joining. I know several people that were very much anti nato before 2014 Crimean crisis, and Russia attacking Ukraine was a last straw for majority of the people. If you think we wouldn't be in danger without nato you obviously haven't followed Kremlin propaganda. We have to. They were paving a way for Finland too. That woud have been just a matter of time. That's why we wanted in as fast as possible.

The benefits of Finland joining NATO outweighs the risk, so they have to join as they are very small country compared to Russia in case of any possible invasion in the future by Russians, so I do think it was a move in the right direction due to Russia recent aggressive action on fighting Ukraine and to prevent this from happening to nearby countries, there has to be necessary measure put in place to avoid such.

[LTU_btc]

Nothing seems to be happening south of Orikhiv. I writing this because there seems to be one guy insisting in saying that the Ukrainian army is advancing in the area and destroying the first line of defence of the RF army, but that cannot be true. It would show in the maps and the official news in Russia would be speaking about it. I guess is just the fog of war and misinformation.

It is not like the 37th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade has withdraw 15 kilometers back, is it?

South of Vuhledar the weather is fine, no rain, partly cloudy and a beautiful day to go picnic. I guess that would be a wise decision for the RF troops in the area. Go to Moscow, drink, eat, have fun... There is nothing happening there.

There is no sign that Ukraine haven't started counteroffensive operation already, but seems that Russians feeling anxious about it. From what I saw in some videos, terrain in some locations isn't in optimal condition, it's still very wet and moving would be complicated. Tanks and other equioment which weights is 40-60 tons simply would stuck in mud. But with warm weather situation improves quickly.
Russians posted message that Ukrainians entrenched themselves in left bank of Dnipro river nearby to Antonov bridge. It would be significant thing, but looks that's another fake:
https://t.me/riamelitopol/88688?single

It seems that Russians started bombing Belgorod themselves:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/large-blast-reported-russian-city-close-border-with-ukraine-2023-04-20/
https://t.me/bbbreaking/153481

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Finland stupidity. Yank the tail of a bear already fighting, and who is arming up for major war?...

You need to improve your "metaphoring" skills. Finland is not twisting a tail, is joining the rest of the species that do not want to be eaten. Your argument is "you have to be scared of RF, so the best thing you can do is to stay very quiet and try not to get noticed". You are a coward, but also a very impractical one.

You talk so funny. Finland joins Nato. What better way to yank the tail of the already-warring bear? And then add a stupid, little fence that couldn't do anything, except tease the bear whose tail you are already yanking.

It's the fluoride the Finnish government puts in the free Finnish drinking water. It affects the brain, by dumbing it down, so that most Finns don't eve recognize what they are doing to themselves.

Bear, bear, bear C'mon man I hope you remember the Winter War.
I don't know how Russians can call stupid to Finns who outperform Russians in absolutely everything except military power. It's hilarious man.