Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?

Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.

Source please? Unless that goings against the ancestral uses of your Eastern tribe.

Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?

For you, it would not matter if Adolf Putin came out in public television to say that he personally ordered the execution of that people. There is even video footage of live unprovoked killings and a quite large number of witnesses that suffered the "brotherly eastern love of the pan-Slavic movement". They got such a dose of glorious eastern culture that they will be thanking the RF forever.

I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest

I assume it is translated. Seriously, nobody would be that stupid as to make an RF Orc speak in English with his  poor mommy.

[LTU_btc]

Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?

LOL, you're beating dead horse again with same stories from alternative reality about staged Bucha or Ukrainian shelling of Kramatorsk. And you're still surprised that UN ignores Russia request to investigate secret ''bio labs'' in Ukraine when Russia most likely will provide same quality ''proofs'' like in these stories. It would be jsut waste of time

I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest

Really. There is audio files on text with original message, and text is just translated. Ukrainian SBU release such calls on regular basis

[TwitchySeal]

I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest

How we reported this story

As part of a monthslong investigation into atrocities committed during Russia’s campaign to seize Kyiv, reporters with The New York Times exclusively obtained more than 4,000 recordings of Russian soldiers’ phone calls intercepted in the Bucha area by Ukrainian law enforcement agencies.

The Times spent almost two months translating the recordings from Russian to English. Twenty-two phones were shared among dozens of soldiers who identified themselves as being members of several military units, including the 656th National Guard Regiment and the 237th and 331st Airborne Regiments. The phones were used to call hundreds of phone numbers in Russia during its campaign in March.

Reporters with the Visual Investigations team independently authenticated the calls by cross-referencing outgoing and incoming Russian phone numbers with messaging apps and Russian social media accounts, and information contained in leaked Russian databases. The Times confirmed the identity of one soldier and his girlfriend over the phone. And details divulged in some calls were verified with contemporaneous reports in Russian media.

In some instances, soldiers said their names or gave other personal details, including the names of their commanders, or their unit number. Those details matched personal profiles registered to those phone numbers, along with other New York Times reporting on the units present in the areas around Bucha. The Times used common spellings for the soldiers’ names.

So, Russia can put objects into space at will, have hyper-sonic weapons, optionally nuclear tipped, which cannot be stopped by anyone, can dump as many artillery shells in a few weeks than all those used in WW-II or some such and seem to have not run out yet, etc...but they cannot manufacture a 50hp chainsaw engined flying corn-chip?

That you could actually believe such a thing explains a lot about why you are wrong about pretty much everything else on this earth.

Lol.  Here you go champ.

Бoльшинcтвo пpoизвoдимыx в Poccии aвиaциoнныx бecпилoтникoв нe yдoвлeтвopяют тaктикo-тexничecким тpeбoвaниям Mиниcтepcтвa oбopoны PФ. Oб этoм зaявил вo втopник, 28 ceнтябpя, пpeдcтaвитeль Mинoбopoны PФ пoлкoвник Игopь Ищyк в xoдe кpyглoгo cтoлa «Пepcпeктивы paзвития тexнoлoгий бecпилoтныx тpaнcпopтныx cpeдcтв в PФ».

«Mинoбopoны paзpaбoтaны cooтвeтcтвyющиe тaктикo-тexничecкиe тpeбoвaния, пpeдъявляeмыe к бecпилoтным лeтaтeльным aппapaтaм. И бoльшинcтвo пpoизвoдитeлeй, к coжaлeнию, нe cпocoбны иx выпoлнить. И ocнoвнaя пpoблeмa нeвыпoлнeния — элeмeнтнaя бaзa», — cкaзaл Ищyк.

https://iz.ru/1402199/2022-09-28/mo-zaiavilo-o-nesootvetstvii-trebovaniiam-bolshinstva-rossiiskikh-dronov

Most of the aircraft drones produced in Russia do not meet the tactical and technical requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This was stated on Tuesday, September 28, by Colonel Igor Ischuk, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during the round table "Prospects for the development of unmanned vehicle technologies in the Russian Federation."

“The Ministry of Defense has developed the appropriate tactical and technical requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles. And most manufacturers, unfortunately, are not able to fulfill them. And the main problem of non-fulfillment is the element base, ”Ishchuk said.

Further reading:

https://informnapalm.org/en/russia-lagging-behind-in-combat-drone-technologies-and-trying-to-hide-it-through-information-operations/

For a long time, the Russian mass media and industry sources had promoted the position that UCAVs were unsuitable for use in high-efficiency conflicts; the Russians had viewed them rather as a toy for military operations in third world countries.

This could be explained both by the conservative thinking of the Russian command, which was educated on the classical concepts dating back to the Cold War times, and by the complete inability of the Russian military-industrial complex to master the production of modern microelectronics.

[suchmoon]

Ukrainian point-y missile

Is that one better than "кpaпкa-y"?

[be.open]

Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?

LOL, you're beating dead horse again with same stories from alternative reality about staged Bucha or Ukrainian shelling of Kramatorsk. And you're still surprised that UN ignores Russia request to investigate secret ''bio labs'' in Ukraine when Russia most likely will provide same quality ''proofs'' like in these stories. It would be jsut waste of time

Say thanks to paxmao.

An alternative reality is being created by the efforts of the Ukrainian Center for Psychological Operations. All these Butches, eaten dogs, raped grandmothers, stolen toilets are the fruit of the diseased imagination of drug-addicted fighters of the information war.

Ukrainian point-y missile

Is that one better than "кpaпкa-y"?

Where does Ukraine get good missiles from? Both are shitty.

[TwitchySeal]

[tvbcof]

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Most of the aircraft drones produced in Russia do not meet the tactical and technical requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This was stated on Tuesday, September 28, by Colonel Igor Ischuk, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during the round table "Prospects for the development of unmanned vehicle technologies in the Russian Federation."

“The Ministry of Defense has developed the appropriate tactical and technical requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles. And most manufacturers, unfortunately, are not able to fulfill them. And the main problem of non-fulfillment is the element base, ”Ishchuk said.

...

Of course Russia would understand that it is necessary to stay on top of the technology in order to be competitive against real adversaries, and I don't doubt that they are recognizing their deficiencies in certain areas and correcting.  That's not the case here.  Ukraine is a technologically primitive enclave of thoroughly corrupt leaders and retarded nazis who seem to struggle to make basic use of even the worn out, broken, and obsolete weaponry dumped on them by NATO.  In this case, hand-made flying lawnmowers, from Iran or otherwise, are proving quite effective.

Anyway, the job of the ordinary people of The Ukraine seems to be to immigrate or die and make way for a different population.  This they are doing satisfactorily with the 'assistance' of Zelenskj, the U.S. State Dept NaZiocons, and the Russians.

[TwitchySeal]

A full letter from the fighters of the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Pacific Fleet addressed to the Governor of Primorsky Krai:

“Dear Oleg Nikolaevich. The Marines of the 155th Marine Brigade are addressing you.
Once again, we were thrown into an incomprehensible offensive by General Muradov and his fellow countryman Akhmedov, in order for Muradov to earn bonuses over Gerasimov and Akhmedov Muradov promised a hero of Russia. As a result, we and the marines of Kamchatka are advancing on Pavlovka. As a result of the "carefully" planned offensive by the "great generals", we lost about 300 people in 4 days, killed, wounded and missing. 50 percent technology. This is just our team. The command of the district, together with Akhmedov, hide this and take the official figures of losses for fear of responsibility. How were they going to capture the settlement by slipping through the landings in which the enemy remained now destroying ours on the evacuation routes of the wounded and the supply of ammunition. In addition, Pavlovka is lower than Ugledar, from which they beat us.
Oleg Nikolaevich, Primorye people! How long will such mediocrity as Muradov and Akhmedov plan military operations for the sake of their reports and receive awards at the cost of the lives of so many people. They don't care about anything just to show themselves. They call people meat.
We ask you to turn to the Supreme Commander so that they send a commission not from the Ministry of Defense where Muradoaa is protected by Gerasimov, but an independent one. Let them be asked the purpose of such actions, their provision, and the results without embellishment.
How much can you endure!”

ps: when you can already understand that such messages are not machinations of hahlov, but the truth (although I doubt the number of dead), in turn, I will add that for the most part there are so many where, there are good commanders, but they are a minority, because they were gobbled up by the system for the sake of such fagots, as for Muradov (like Lapina ), then they were praised, defended, etc., when he behaved like a cuckold in Karabakh, when the Azerbaijani side fired on the Armenians and our peacekeeping contingent as much as they wanted
Telegram

[Branko]

For you funny people fed by your "free" press, look here how is that "freedom" created, lol

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1589606899569377282

[paxmao]

Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?

LOL, you're beating dead horse again with same stories from alternative reality about staged Bucha or Ukrainian shelling of Kramatorsk. And you're still surprised that UN ignores Russia request to investigate secret ''bio labs'' in Ukraine when Russia most likely will provide same quality ''proofs'' like in these stories. It would be jsut waste of time

Say thanks to paxmao.

An alternative reality is being created by the efforts of the Ukrainian Center for Psychological Operations. All these Butches, eaten dogs, raped grandmothers, stolen toilets are the fruit of the diseased imagination of drug-addicted fighters of the information war.

Ukrainian point-y missile

Is that one better than "кpaпкa-y"?

Where does Ukraine get good missiles from? Both are shitty.

Oh, some people would say they are good enough to sink the pride of the Orc Fleet. This conversation is missing a little detail -  Ukraine is receiving quite good technological shit, the local quality is pretty much irrelevant. RF is got... Iran.

A full letter from the fighters of the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Pacific Fleet addressed to the Governor of Primorsky Krai:

“Dear Oleg Nikolaevich. The Marines of the 155th Marine Brigade are addressing you.
Once again, we were thrown into an incomprehensible offensive by General Muradov and his fellow countryman Akhmedov, in order for Muradov to earn bonuses over Gerasimov and Akhmedov Muradov promised a hero of Russia. As a result, we and the marines of Kamchatka are advancing on Pavlovka. As a result of the "carefully" planned offensive by the "great generals", we lost about 300 people in 4 days, killed, wounded and missing. 50 percent technology. This is just our team. The command of the district, together with Akhmedov, hide this and take the official figures of losses for fear of responsibility. How were they going to capture the settlement by slipping through the landings in which the enemy remained now destroying ours on the evacuation routes of the wounded and the supply of ammunition. In addition, Pavlovka is lower than Ugledar, from which they beat us.
Oleg Nikolaevich, Primorye people! How long will such mediocrity as Muradov and Akhmedov plan military operations for the sake of their reports and receive awards at the cost of the lives of so many people. They don't care about anything just to show themselves. They call people meat.
We ask you to turn to the Supreme Commander so that they send a commission not from the Ministry of Defense where Muradoaa is protected by Gerasimov, but an independent one. Let them be asked the purpose of such actions, their provision, and the results without embellishment.
How much can you endure!”
....

Sound a lot like what Russian soldiers were saying just before the Revolution during WWI. Unsupplied, used like cannon fodder, given orders that only made sense in a remote desk, no food, no discipline, no morale. Seem like Adolf Putin has been reading too much about Peter "the Great" and too little about the Romanovs.

[Branko]

Britain was little even before this war:

https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-little-britain-drifts-into-insignificance/a-52183069

There are a lot of reasons for that:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/01/will-britain-survive/621095/

But now it seems its complete meltdown

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/17/economy-crisis-tories-britain-brexit-johnson-truss-us

Yet UK is poking the bear

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-accuses-russia-of-peddling-false-claims-after-moscow-blames-royal-navy-for-nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-12733132


And some interesting, google translated and long, read:

https://www-geopolitika-news.translate.goog/analize/z-meter-sad-ce-suradivati-s-rusijom-tamo-gdje-im-je-to-od-interesa-eu-ne-smije-zbog-ukrajine/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[tvbcof]

Britain was little even before this war:

https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-little-britain-drifts-into-insignificance/a-52183069

There are a lot of reasons for that:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/01/will-britain-survive/621095/

But now it seems its complete meltdown

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/17/economy-crisis-tories-britain-brexit-johnson-truss-us

Yet UK is poking the bear

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-accuses-russia-of-peddling-false-claims-after-moscow-blames-royal-navy-for-nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-12733132


And some interesting, google translated and long, read:

https://www-geopolitika-news.translate.goog/analize/z-meter-sad-ce-suradivati-s-rusijom-tamo-gdje-im-je-to-od-interesa-eu-ne-smije-zbog-ukrajine/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Many people have marveled at Orwell's prescience.  It's jaw-dropping, and lends some credence to the suggestion that he was a pretty high-level insider who may or may not have fallen out of favor.  Being formally a student of one of the Huxleys doesn't harm the suggestion either.  Huxley and Blair even communicated about who's book was 'better' insofar as how it maps (or will map) to physical reality.  I'd give the edge to Huxley getting it more right even while, as a work of literature, Brave New World was shit.  Reality seems to be a hybrid and both books seem to have 'nailed it' on a lot of important things.  Anyway...

I'm sure that many people have mused about how Europe could be engineered out of 'Oceana' and into 'Eurasia' thus fulfilling Orwell's 'prophecy'.  Leaving 'Airstrip-1' as a part of Oceana of course.  Looks like we are getting ready to find out.

Maybe Orwell just had enough of a casual interest in Geology to identify the primary hydrocarbon resources, and that was enough to make some good guesses.

[BADecker]

Now we have proof that the Nord Stream explosions were done by the US.




U.S. Torpedo Appeared at Explosion Site of the Nord Stream

It was the torpedo type carried by the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Paul Ignatius (DDG 117) – RGM-84 harpoon missile. The Harpoon has been the primary anti-ship weapon in the United States Navy, it has a range of 300 km and is known as a "ship-killer".

The remains of the American torpedo near the Nord Stream pipeline explosion site, computer image taken from hidden camera

The U.S. provided Ukrainian forces with the Harpoon anti-ship missiles at the end of May this year, and then the Ukraine used Harpoon missiles to sink the Russian Navy's Vasiliy Bekh tugboat around June 17. Actually, the U.S. Navy tested the destructive power of Harpoon missiles on the battlefield in Ukraine. Around the same time, the U.S. Sixth Fleet began collecting accurate mapping of the vicinity of the Nord Stream pipeline in order to perform remote sabotage.

All about Blowing up the NS! U.S. Navy's Sixth Fleet carried out the sabotage

From Obama to Biden administrations, they all charged that the NS pipelines will deepen the extensive dependence of Germany and other portions of democratic Europe on Russian energy supplies, Biden has even threatened to "put an end" to the Nord Stream 2. Since 2022, the U.S. Navy has been making intensive displays of its military presence in the Baltic region, ostensibly dictated by the international situation and the new phase of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. In fact, the following timeline shows that the U.S. Navy's "use of force" against the Nord Stream pipeline was deliberate.

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[paxmao]

Latest news seem to be that RF is evacuating Kherson. I am taking that with a pinch of salt (pretty much like the Ukrainian army), but it could be true - they may not want to get a few thousand soldiers trapped on that side of the river.

Now we have proof that the Nord Stream explosions were done by the US.


U.S. Torpedo Appeared at Explosion Site of the Nord Stream

It was the torpedo type carried by the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Paul Ignatius (DDG 117) – RGM-84 harpoon missile. The Harpoon has been the primary anti-ship weapon in the United States Navy, it has a range of 300 km and is known as a "ship-killer".

The remains of the American torpedo near the Nord Stream pipeline explosion site, computer image taken from hidden camera

The U.S. provided Ukrainian forces with the Harpoon anti-ship missiles at the end of May this year, and then the Ukraine used Harpoon missiles to sink the Russian Navy's Vasiliy Bekh tugboat around June 17. Actually, the U.S. Navy tested the destructive power of Harpoon missiles on the battlefield in Ukraine. Around the same time, the U.S. Sixth Fleet began collecting accurate mapping of the vicinity of the Nord Stream pipeline in order to perform remote sabotage.

All about Blowing up the NS! U.S. Navy's Sixth Fleet carried out the sabotage

From Obama to Biden administrations, they all charged that the NS pipelines will deepen the extensive dependence of Germany and other portions of democratic Europe on Russian energy supplies, Biden has even threatened to "put an end" to the Nord Stream 2. Since 2022, the U.S. Navy has been making intensive displays of its military presence in the Baltic region, ostensibly dictated by the international situation and the new phase of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. In fact, the following timeline shows that the U.S. Navy's "use of force" against the Nord Stream pipeline was deliberate.

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Look, just for the shake of the argument, and given that you have only provided a link to something that is probably written (it says no-author) by a fat guy eating a cheap pizza in his underwear in his parent's basement, surrounded by Batman Comics, the Blue-Ray edition of Star Trek and a well used and stained 2008 edition of Victoria's Secret catalogue.

Have you noticed that the description of the sub and weapon do not even make sense?

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Most of the aircraft drones produced in Russia do not meet the tactical and technical requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This was stated on Tuesday, September 28, by Colonel Igor Ischuk, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during the round table "Prospects for the development of unmanned vehicle technologies in the Russian Federation."

“The Ministry of Defense has developed the appropriate tactical and technical requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles. And most manufacturers, unfortunately, are not able to fulfill them. And the main problem of non-fulfillment is the element base, ”Ishchuk said.

...

Of course Russia would understand that it is necessary to stay on top of the technology in order to be competitive against real adversaries, and I don't doubt that they are recognizing their deficiencies in certain areas and correcting.  That's not the case here.  Ukraine is a technologically primitive enclave of thoroughly corrupt leaders and retarded nazis who seem to struggle to make basic use of even the worn out, broken, and obsolete weaponry dumped on them by NATO.  In this case, hand-made flying lawnmowers, from Iran or otherwise, are proving quite effective.

Anyway, the job of the ordinary people of The Ukraine seems to be to immigrate or die and make way for a different population.  This they are doing satisfactorily with the 'assistance' of Zelenskj, the U.S. State Dept NaZiocons, and the Russians.

So... The RF glorious army, the paradigm of power and technology is basically being sent back to Moscow by " a primitive enclave full of corruption"? That does not precisely speak very well of the RF does it?

The IKEA drones were a good surprise... for a few days and they were perfect to have a excuse to supply Ukraine with proper STA interception. Another great move for the Orc genius.

[LTU_btc]

Strange silemce here. Today Shoigu ordered Russian troops to retreat from Kherson and Western bank od Dnipro river.

“Kherson cannot be fully supplied and function. Russia did everything possible to ensure the evacuation of the inhabitants of Kherson,” Surovikin told Shoigu.

“We will save the lives of our soldiers and fighting capacity of our units. Keeping them on the right [western] bank is futile. Some of them can be used on other fronts,” Surovikin said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/09/russians-destroy-dnieper-bridges-to-slow-ukraine-advance-on-kherson
From wet dreams about taking Kyiv to shameful retreat from Kherson. It's so fun to red Russian telegram channels and their reactions. Any way, too early to celebrate as long as we won't see Ukrainian flag raised in Kherson.

Another good news - Collaborator schizoid Stremousov today died in car crash near to Kahovka:
https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/11/09/kherson-collaborationist-official-kirill-stremousov-reportedly-killed-in-car-crash
About him, I expected that he will be eliminated sooner or later. He talked too much and way too much nonsense, even in Russian propaganda context. And he probably knew too much. But there is some strange things. It's said that he crashed with truck, but that truck isn't visible in none of hpotos and videos. Also, it's strange that whole car body pulled away from vehicle, I haven't seen such crash. It's also said that Stremousov driver survived crash, but considering how car looks after crash, it's impossible. And last, from metadata of video where Saldo confirmed death of Stremousov, it's made 2 hours before crash actually happened.

[TwitchySeal]

Latest news seem to be that RF is evacuating Kherson. I am taking that with a pinch of salt (pretty much like the Ukrainian army), but it could be true - they may not want to get a few thousand soldiers trapped on that side of the river.

Hopefully they aren't getting ready to Nuke Kherson.  The bloggers seem upset at least. (No Branko, the russians aren't speaking english.  I translated it.)


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/69797



https://t.me/zastavnyii/2055


Someone should send them a link to be.open, branko and tvbcof's posts from this thread, see what the power of positivity can do.

[paxmao]

Britain was little even before this war:

https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-little-britain-drifts-into-insignificance/a-52183069

There are a lot of reasons for that:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/01/will-britain-survive/621095/

But now it seems its complete meltdown

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/17/economy-crisis-tories-britain-brexit-johnson-truss-us

Yet UK is poking the bear

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-accuses-russia-of-peddling-false-claims-after-moscow-blames-royal-navy-for-nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-12733132


And some interesting, google translated and long, read:

https://www-geopolitika-news.translate.goog/analize/z-meter-sad-ce-suradivati-s-rusijom-tamo-gdje-im-je-to-od-interesa-eu-ne-smije-zbog-ukrajine/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

You have to understand the difference between the "news" of the media you read and the News that free press can and does publish. About poking the bear... well the UK did not kill a dissident in Moscow with Polonium. That is poking.

On regards to UK becoming "small Britain", well, your comment is right... just 107 years old because it started with WW I.

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Reply to paxmao

Russia will not run out of soviet era tanks and artillery, but HIMARS seem to certainly be making a difference on the ability to disrupt logistics. I do not give full credit to the British intelligence reports, but there seems to be a good chance on Ukraine actually being able to re-take the offensive, while the RF assaults seem quite stalled in the east.
This touches several of the weak points of RF and can make the war take a different perspective.

You constantly talk in this thread about the future victories of Ukraine and how clumsily the Russian army is fighting. Apparently, you are very confident in the victory of Ukraine, then I offer you a bet with the following conditions:
- if Ukrainian troops manage to recapture any of these cities before January 1, 2023: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then I will leave this forum forever.
- if the Ukrainian troops until January 1, 2023 are NOT able to recapture any of these cities: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then you will leave this forum forever.
If you're not ready for this bet, then maybe you will stop your wishful talking?

Written records are a bitch uh? You are lucky I am not fifteen and I do not bet on deaths (nor for that matter on things that do not depend on my own acts).

So... I am allowed by you highness to continue "my wishful thinking"? Or maybe it was something else...like not wanting to talk about the offensive and how, where and when it may have happened? Well, we won't know.

Now, go back to trolling. As Napoleon said, never interrupt the opponent when he is making a mistake.

[Branko]

You have to understand the difference between the "news" of the media you read and the News that free press can and does publish. About poking the bear... well the UK did not kill a dissident in Moscow with Polonium. That is poking.

On regards to UK becoming "small Britain", well, your comment is right... just 107 years old because it started with WW I.

However, you decided to extradite dissident to USA, which is as good as killing him

Also, how many IRA members got killed by good old fashioned bullet, and across the globe?

(or even innocent bystanders like this one)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/mar/08/menezes-tube-shooting-northern-ireland

[paxmao]

You have to understand the difference between the "news" of the media you read and the News that free press can and does publish. About poking the bear... well the UK did not kill a dissident in Moscow with Polonium. That is poking.

On regards to UK becoming "small Britain", well, your comment is right... just 107 years old because it started with WW I.

However, you decided to extradite dissident to USA, which is as good as killing him

Also, how many IRA members got killed by good old fashioned bullet, and across the globe?

(or even innocent bystanders like this one)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/mar/08/menezes-tube-shooting-northern-ireland

Suchmoon would be shouting whattabout a few comments ago. You spoke about the UK poking the bear (which seems now more like one of those small dogs that bark at anything). Well, the doggy/bear did poke the UK before. And used Facebook to influence elections and is currently influencing the US electoral process and had two army corps in Donbas before the war.

Let's say it is getting poked back, it is simply that the stick is bigger.

[af_newbie]

Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?

LOL, you're beating dead horse again with same stories from alternative reality about staged Bucha or Ukrainian shelling of Kramatorsk. And you're still surprised that UN ignores Russia request to investigate secret ''bio labs'' in Ukraine when Russia most likely will provide same quality ''proofs'' like in these stories. It would be jsut waste of time

Say thanks to paxmao.

An alternative reality is being created by the efforts of the Ukrainian Center for Psychological Operations. All these Butches, eaten dogs, raped grandmothers, stolen toilets are the fruit of the diseased imagination of drug-addicted fighters of the information war.

Ukrainian point-y missile

Is that one better than "кpaпкa-y"?

Where does Ukraine get good missiles from? Both are shitty.

When is the victory celebration in Kherson? I am asking because you are the expert on dates of victory celebrations. LOL.

Is it this weekend or is it moved to the next weekend?

And a follow-up question, when do Russians plan to 'regroup' to Moscow oblast? You know, to save the lives of Russian soldiers and civilians.