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March 20, 2023, 07:20:19 AM
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I've never heard anyone in a real leadership position in Russia make much mention of the use of nuclear weapons at all,

I'm somewhat surprised that neither Russian State media or any of your conspiracy youtubers have discussed the nuclear threats Medvedev has made.  He does it all the time.

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 #4222

I've never heard anyone in a real leadership position in Russia make much mention of the use of nuclear weapons at all,

I'm somewhat surprised that neither Russian State media or any of your conspiracy youtubers have discussed the nuclear threats Medvedev has made.  He does it all the time.
Nobody here in Russia takes Medvedev seriously. It seems that after the death of Zhirinovsky, he occupied the niche of an outrageous freak in the political arena. In short, an ordinary clown like Zelensky.
Oh, the mythical counteroffensive... sure, keep your eyes on Bahkmut, no need to notice the 40 thousand motorised troops being massed in the Zaporilla area. Do not look there, nothing is going to happen in the next 3 weeks. Nothing at all.  An the explosions in Sebastopol were again, RF soldiers smoking by the gas barrels. There is no resistance and no partisans in the zone. Nothing happening.
Of course, there will be an attempt at a counteroffensive from Ukraine, otherwise why these deliveries of tanks and training courses for soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the West. I called it mythical because the chances of success are close to zero.

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March 20, 2023, 09:02:06 AM
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I've never heard anyone in a real leadership position in Russia make much mention of the use of nuclear weapons at all,

I'm somewhat surprised that neither Russian State media or any of your conspiracy youtubers have discussed the nuclear threats Medvedev has made.  He does it all the time.
Nobody here in Russia takes Medvedev seriously. It seems that after the death of Zhirinovsky, he occupied the niche of an outrageous freak in the political arena. In short, an ordinary clown like Zelensky.
Oh, the mythical counteroffensive... sure, keep your eyes on Bahkmut, no need to notice the 40 thousand motorised troops being massed in the Zaporilla area. Do not look there, nothing is going to happen in the next 3 weeks. Nothing at all.  An the explosions in Sebastopol were again, RF soldiers smoking by the gas barrels. There is no resistance and no partisans in the zone. Nothing happening.
Of course, there will be an attempt at a counteroffensive from Ukraine, otherwise why these deliveries of tanks and training courses for soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the West. I called it mythical because the chances of success are close to zero.


You seem just as confident now as you were almost exactly 1 year ago when you were defending the fact that the special military operation was still going on weeks later not because Russia was facing any setbacks, they just wanted to minimize civilian casualties is all...and don't worry, there will be a Parade in Kiev come May...


If the APU is a rabbit, then why didn't the tiger eat it a week ago? Any questions. I don't think it's because the rabbit got a vegan tiger. Maybe the Russian tiger is weakened by some unknown disease?
The active part of the operation is designed for at least three weeks, do not forget that Ukraine is the largest country in Europe, after Russia. Then, for several more months, it will be necessary to clear the area from gangs with rich historical traditions of Bandera. Do not confuse the desire to minimize civilian casualties with weakness.
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In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.

Well, if not in Kyiv then maybe in the suburbs of Chornobaivka. The equipment might need some polishing before it's parade-ready.
In winter, military exercises took place on Russian territory near the border with Ukraine, in which two groups participated - Z and V (west and east). Now a group of Z is involved in the operation. And where is the second group V? Probably in operational reserve, polishing uniforms for the parade, but this is not certain.  Smiley





By the way, did you hear there actually was a victory day parade in Kiev over the summer?







Any predictions for where we will be March 2024?

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March 20, 2023, 09:21:35 AM
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You seem just as confident now as you were almost exactly 1 year ago when you were defending the fact that the special military operation was still going on weeks later not because Russia was facing any setbacks, they just wanted to minimize civilian casualties is all...and don't worry, there will be a Parade in Kiev come May...
When it comes to the future, you always have to deal with probabilities, because, unlike the present, the future is not yet a fait accompli. The probabilistic nature of the future does not allow making predictions with 100% accuracy. When making my prediction regarding the victory parade in Kyiv, I proceeded from the assumption that Ukraine will soberly assess its capabilities in confrontation with Russia and will act in accordance with prudence and its own benefit. However, I was wrong in this assumption - Ukraine chose to get involved in a suicidal adventure, completely neglecting the instinct of self-preservation and acting to its own detriment. In all respects, it would have been wiser and more profitable for Ukraine to unconditionally capitulate a year ago.

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March 20, 2023, 10:03:17 AM
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I've never heard anyone in a real leadership position in Russia make much mention of the use of nuclear weapons at all,

I'm somewhat surprised that neither Russian State media or any of your conspiracy youtubers have discussed the nuclear threats Medvedev has made.  He does it all the time.
Nobody here in Russia takes Medvedev seriously. It seems that after the death of Zhirinovsky, he occupied the niche of an outrageous freak in the political arena. In short, an ordinary clown like Zelensky.
Oh, the mythical counteroffensive... sure, keep your eyes on Bahkmut, no need to notice the 40 thousand motorised troops being massed in the Zaporilla area. Do not look there, nothing is going to happen in the next 3 weeks. Nothing at all.  An the explosions in Sebastopol were again, RF soldiers smoking by the gas barrels. There is no resistance and no partisans in the zone. Nothing happening.
Of course, there will be an attempt at a counteroffensive from Ukraine, otherwise why these deliveries of tanks and training courses for soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the West. I called it mythical because the chances of success are close to zero.

No no... all Leopards, Challengers, Bradleys and Abrams have been destroyed by precision rockets. No offensive action is planned. Just stick to Bakhmut, keet your artillery there, keep using your ammo there and risking the SUs.

As you say, there is nothing to fear because the chance of success are so low... in fact, just remove the troops from there and send them to help in Bakhmut. It is much more important than keeping the land bridge to Crimea. As Branko says, it is all part of the plan.

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Any predictions for where we will be March 2024?

I do not know, but I am still buying tanks in good condition. 100 USD per unit, 60 USD if they are Armata because they do not really work, delivered to the Polish border please.  I also keen on SPGs like the one there, but without the rust.

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Any predictions for where we will be March 2024?


Celebrating with your friends?



You seem just as confident now as you were almost exactly 1 year ago when you were defending the fact that the special military operation was still going on weeks later not because Russia was facing any setbacks, they just wanted to minimize civilian casualties is all...and don't worry, there will be a Parade in Kiev come May...
When it comes to the future, you always have to deal with probabilities, because, unlike the present, the future is not yet a fait accompli. The probabilistic nature of the future does not allow making predictions with 100% accuracy. When making my prediction regarding the victory parade in Kyiv, I proceeded from the assumption that Ukraine will soberly assess its capabilities in confrontation with Russia and will act in accordance with prudence and its own benefit. However, I was wrong in this assumption - Ukraine chose to get involved in a suicidal adventure, completely neglecting the instinct of self-preservation and acting to its own detriment. In all respects, it would have been wiser and more profitable for Ukraine to unconditionally capitulate a year ago.

Why would they capitulate? Everything points toward conclusion that they were preparing 8 years for this war, and
never had intention to accept Minsk 2
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Any predictions for where we will be March 2024?


Celebrating with your friends?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrbAkeCWwAA0bx0?format=jpg&name=large

You seem just as confident now as you were almost exactly 1 year ago when you were defending the fact that the special military operation was still going on weeks later not because Russia was facing any setbacks, they just wanted to minimize civilian casualties is all...and don't worry, there will be a Parade in Kiev come May...
When it comes to the future, you always have to deal with probabilities, because, unlike the present, the future is not yet a fait accompli. The probabilistic nature of the future does not allow making predictions with 100% accuracy. When making my prediction regarding the victory parade in Kyiv, I proceeded from the assumption that Ukraine will soberly assess its capabilities in confrontation with Russia and will act in accordance with prudence and its own benefit. However, I was wrong in this assumption - Ukraine chose to get involved in a suicidal adventure, completely neglecting the instinct of self-preservation and acting to its own detriment. In all respects, it would have been wiser and more profitable for Ukraine to unconditionally capitulate a year ago.

Why would they capitulate? Everything points toward conclusion that they were preparing 8 years for this war, and never had intention to accept Minsk 2

Very honorable of them, martyring themselves for the US and Nato. The world will remember them... for a few short years. When you're dead, Russian soldiers can't kill you, and US/Nato countries can't let you die.

But why let your kids die for nothing. Oh, yes. Honor. Imaginary honor?

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Very honorable of them, martyring themselves for the US and Nato. The world will remember them... for a few short years. When you're dead, Russian soldiers can't kill you, and US/Nato countries can't let you die.

But why let your kids die for nothing. Oh, yes. Honor. Imaginary honor?

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They eagerly awaited Russia to attack them:

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Any predictions for where we will be March 2024?


Celebrating with your friends?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrbAkeCWwAA0bx0?format=jpg&name=large

You seem just as confident now as you were almost exactly 1 year ago when you were defending the fact that the special military operation was still going on weeks later not because Russia was facing any setbacks, they just wanted to minimize civilian casualties is all...and don't worry, there will be a Parade in Kiev come May...
When it comes to the future, you always have to deal with probabilities, because, unlike the present, the future is not yet a fait accompli. The probabilistic nature of the future does not allow making predictions with 100% accuracy. When making my prediction regarding the victory parade in Kyiv, I proceeded from the assumption that Ukraine will soberly assess its capabilities in confrontation with Russia and will act in accordance with prudence and its own benefit. However, I was wrong in this assumption - Ukraine chose to get involved in a suicidal adventure, completely neglecting the instinct of self-preservation and acting to its own detriment. In all respects, it would have been wiser and more profitable for Ukraine to unconditionally capitulate a year ago.

Why would they capitulate? Everything points toward conclusion that they were preparing 8 years for this war, and never had intention to accept Minsk 2

Very honorable of them, martyring themselves for the US and Nato. The world will remember them... for a few short years. When you're dead, Russian soldiers can't kill you, and US/Nato countries can't let you die.

But why let your kids die for nothing. Oh, yes. Honor. Imaginary honor?

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Ask Putin this question.

Earth to Russia: empires are out, and nation-states are in. Pay attention.


meh

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Where's that Ukrainian 'greatest counter-offensive' we've been hearing about?  Last week it was bad weather.  This week it's something about new gear and saving Bakhmut or some such.  'Excuses are like assholes', so they say.

In the mean time it looks like Avdiivka is in free-fall.  Maybe the vaunted hero's will be diverted there?  Looks like Rooskies drew the Ukes out of Avdiivka to Bakhmut and Ugladar respectively for months now, and it's time to let the hammer drop.  I know I'm a bad person for saying it, but I'm going to relish the fall of Avdiivka for the simple reason that the shelling of civilian areas in Donetsk, for no reason other than some fundamentalist 'it must be done', really pisses me off...and it is more than just it being my tax dollars which fund 155mm for the Nazis.  Finally, after over a year (or 8 years) of waiting, those poor fuckers in Donetsk might get a break.

(Always the cynic, I don't rule out that Russia was in no hurry to stop the shelling of Donetsk in part because it might help keep the new territories people motivated to fight.)

Maybe the Russians saved things up so they could encircle and capture as many perps as possible.  Avdiivka was where much of the AFU was staging for their ethnic cleansing campaign for years now.  That said, the swastika people are probably long gone now (to the rear and/or to the (((Collective West))) and the place is stuffed full of kidnapped slavic sausage meat just like Bakhmut was.  That's probably why the kroids are surrendering en-mass and allowing the place to be more than 'tactically' encircled at a rapid pace.

  Translated Version Of Ukrops Surrenderng Near Donetsk
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On the staging thing, it looked to me as though the nazis held tight to the hope that they could do their ethnic cleansing of Eastern Ukraine anyway after Russia pulled the trigger first, and they left far to many people there for far to long.  That was one of the reasons for the rapid early results of the 'special military operation' in terms of area touched.  The other reason was that it was a rus to try to draw the Russians to far in.  As I predicted, the Russians didn't fall for it after their plan-A didn't work.  They stopped making forward movements when they clearly could have, and bailed quickly and cleanly at a time of their choosing.  That gave Ukraine a mock-victory where they simply re-entered area completely evacuated by the Russians.  The only sad part was that their secret police killed so many 'collaborators' in Kharkiv.  At least the Russians did better in Kherson.  The stay-behind spotters on the West side of the river are some brave motherfuckers, and my hat is off to them.


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Very honorable of them, martyring themselves for the US and Nato. The world will remember them... for a few short years. When you're dead, Russian soldiers can't kill you, and US/Nato countries can't let you die.

But why let your kids die for nothing. Oh, yes. Honor. Imaginary honor?

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US to Earth: Empire is in, and nation-states are the stepping stones (starting with Ukraine, and moving to Russia, then China and the world). Pay attention.

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Where's that Ukrainian 'greatest counter-offensive' we've been hearing about?  Last week it was bad weather.  This week it's something about new gear and saving Bakhmut or some such.  'Excuses are like assholes', so they say.
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Yes, no Ukrainian offensive is planned, do not worry. Just keep on throwing the official "truth" here and keep on attacking Bakhmut - it is very important for the RF to conquer another flattened town that is in the middle of nowhere and in artillery range from the other side of the river. You do not have to worry about the nearly state of the art nearly 100 main battle tanks coming from US and Europe and those few hundred IMFV. That is just for defence, so no offensive planned in the next few weeks.

Sleep well, read the Pravda, listen to Radio Moscow and keep drinking Stolichnaya.

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Where's that Ukrainian 'greatest counter-offensive' we've been hearing about?  Last week it was bad weather.  This week it's something about new gear and saving Bakhmut or some such.  'Excuses are like assholes', so they say.
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Yes, no Ukrainian offensive is planned, do not worry. Just keep on throwing the official "truth" here and keep on attacking Bakhmut - it is very important for the RF to conquer another flattened town that is in the middle of nowhere and in artillery range from the other side of the river. You do not have to worry about the nearly state of the art nearly 100 main battle tanks coming from US and Europe and those few hundred IMFV. That is just for defence, so no offensive planned in the next few weeks.

Sleep well, read the Pravda, listen to Radio Moscow and keep drinking Stolichnaya.
A few days ago, Russia attacked a fuel storage facility in Novomoskovsk, Dnepropetrovsk region. All Geraniums, of course, were intercepted by Ukrainian air defense, but they burned for two days until they burned to the ground - despite all attempts to put out the fire. They say that $15 million worth of fuel was burned, prepared for the counteroffensive. Therefore, you are right, you can safely continue to drink vodka, Leopards will not go anywhere with empty tanks. Grin

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March 21, 2023, 05:22:30 PM
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Where's that Ukrainian 'greatest counter-offensive' we've been hearing about?  Last week it was bad weather.  This week it's something about new gear and saving Bakhmut or some such.  'Excuses are like assholes', so they say.
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Yes, no Ukrainian offensive is planned, do not worry. Just keep on throwing the official "truth" here and keep on attacking Bakhmut - it is very important for the RF to conquer another flattened town that is in the middle of nowhere and in artillery range from the other side of the river. You do not have to worry about the nearly state of the art nearly 100 main battle tanks coming from US and Europe and those few hundred IMFV. That is just for defence, so no offensive planned in the next few weeks.

Sleep well, read the Pravda, listen to Radio Moscow and keep drinking Stolichnaya.


Propaganda: thousand Russians die in mindless human wave attacks

Reality:

https://t.me/intelslava/45135

https://t.me/vicktop55/13731
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March 21, 2023, 09:41:33 PM
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It looks like another Yugoslavia is planned in place of Ukraine. A draft law on amendments to the Law on Ratification of the Treaty on Good Neighborly Relations and Cooperation between Romania and Ukraine has been submitted to the Senate of Romania. Romania wants to annex part of the territories of Ukraine, which it considers historically its own - this is, in a nutshell.

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March 21, 2023, 10:31:04 PM
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It looks like another Yugoslavia is planned in place of Ukraine. A draft law on amendments to the Law on Ratification of the Treaty on Good Neighborly Relations and Cooperation between Romania and Ukraine has been submitted to the Senate of Romania. Romania wants to annex part of the territories of Ukraine, which it considers historically its own - this is, in a nutshell.
LOL, you really post this kind of stuff seriously? You're saying that Romania wants to annex part of Ukraine territory, when actually it's just one pro-Russian politician. She is only member of party in Senate, she is in opposition and her word doesn't have no weight. You can find such people in most of parlaments in Europe, but in most cases it's minority without power.
If you want to push agenda that Romania or Poland want to annex West of Ukraine, you have to try harder.

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March 22, 2023, 08:28:10 AM
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It looks like another Yugoslavia is planned in place of Ukraine. A draft law on amendments to the Law on Ratification of the Treaty on Good Neighborly Relations and Cooperation between Romania and Ukraine has been submitted to the Senate of Romania. Romania wants to annex part of the territories of Ukraine, which it considers historically its own - this is, in a nutshell.
LOL, you really post this kind of stuff seriously? You're saying that Romania wants to annex part of Ukraine territory, when actually it's just one pro-Russian politician. She is only member of party in Senate, she is in opposition and her word doesn't have no weight. You can find such people in most of parlaments in Europe, but in most cases it's minority without power.
If you want to push agenda that Romania or Poland want to annex West of Ukraine, you have to try harder.

You forgot Hungary too...all 3 countries lost territories that Stalin stole after WW2 and annexed to CCCP, todays Ukraine
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March 22, 2023, 11:54:40 AM
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It looks like another Yugoslavia is planned in place of Ukraine. A draft law on amendments to the Law on Ratification of the Treaty on Good Neighborly Relations and Cooperation between Romania and Ukraine has been submitted to the Senate of Romania. Romania wants to annex part of the territories of Ukraine, which it considers historically its own - this is, in a nutshell.
LOL, you really post this kind of stuff seriously? You're saying that Romania wants to annex part of Ukraine territory, when actually it's just one pro-Russian politician. She is only member of party in Senate, she is in opposition and her word doesn't have no weight. You can find such people in most of parlaments in Europe, but in most cases it's minority without power.
If you want to push agenda that Romania or Poland want to annex West of Ukraine, you have to try harder.

You forgot Hungary too...all 3 countries lost territories that Stalin stole after WW2 and annexed to CCCP, todays Ukraine

I am sure they are all jumping at the opportunity Branko. They have seen how easy is to take land from Ukraine. You just have to declare a military "operation", send over thousands of tanks, hundreds of thousands of people, support the international backlash, the tens of thousands of dead coming home in bags, be declared a war criminal, get other countries aligned against you... Who wants to be next?

Now, do I need to remind you that European democracies rarely go to war after WW II? Particularly, they have not waged war against each other for more than half a century.

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March 22, 2023, 12:17:21 PM
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It looks like another Yugoslavia is planned in place of Ukraine. A draft law on amendments to the Law on Ratification of the Treaty on Good Neighborly Relations and Cooperation between Romania and Ukraine has been submitted to the Senate of Romania. Romania wants to annex part of the territories of Ukraine, which it considers historically its own - this is, in a nutshell.
LOL, you really post this kind of stuff seriously? You're saying that Romania wants to annex part of Ukraine territory, when actually it's just one pro-Russian politician. She is only member of party in Senate, she is in opposition and her word doesn't have no weight. You can find such people in most of parlaments in Europe, but in most cases it's minority without power.
If you want to push agenda that Romania or Poland want to annex West of Ukraine, you have to try harder.

You forgot Hungary too...all 3 countries lost territories that Stalin stole after WW2 and annexed to CCCP, todays Ukraine

I am sure they are all jumping at the opportunity Branko. They have seen how easy is to take land from Ukraine. You just have to declare a military "operation", send over thousands of tanks, hundreds of thousands of people, support the international backlash, the tens of thousands of dead coming home in bags, be declared a war criminal, get other countries aligned against you... Who wants to be next?

Now, do I need to remind you that European democracies rarely go to war after WW II? Particularly, they have not waged war against each other for more than half a century.

Hey, who was talking about invasion? After Russia takes east part, they will annex west parts to "protect" them from "evil Russians". revert historical injustices and such
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