Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[TwitchySeal]

You know that Time magazine had Hitler and Stalin (twice) as person of the year as well...

And they deserved it.  Whether you've done good or evil is not considered when deciding who wins.  Just who had the biggest effect on the news of the year.

Its not because Putin wants control of the Ukraine our dear elite that run things behind the scenes want control of this world.

No, Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin wants to control Ukraine.  You really think there's a secret club that called up Putin and Zelensky and said "we need you go to war with each other and make it look like Russia wants to control Ukraine and Ukraine doesn't want to be controlled by Russia so that we can control the world".   That's ridiculous.

Maybe this guy should be included in your post since he laundered I mean "donated" so much to the Ukraine:

Ukraine used FTX to convert all their crypto donations to fiat.  That's literally all there is to the story.  I don't think SBF even donated money directly to Ukraine.  But if he wanted to, he wouldn't have made it a secret (unlike the dark money donations he claims he made to Republicans).

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[o48o]

Sure Putin was the problem created by the WEF's direction to do so. Meanwhile Zelensky gets funding from the US, EU, and other western nations to 'fight' them. But the real "solution" against a further awakening western populous is to starve them of food and energy resources by instigating this war. This is to keep us in line as I said...

No that's just a bs claim without any basis on reality. I might regret this question but who exactly is "Keepin us in line" since you are using quotes?

Putin speaks at Davo 2021 World Economic Forum before the war
https://www.weforum.org/events/the-davos-agenda-2021/sessions/special-address-by-vladimir-putin-president-of-the-russian-federation

Yes, let's listen more to lying, misogynic, homophobic, murderous dictators when they didn't want to hear reason in the first place.

I will own nothing and be happy WEF Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=3d27f3c41735

Oh the horrors. This literal fiction must be an evil communist plot i am guessing?

KLAUS SCHWAB Question CANCELLED in CANADIAN Parliament ("penetrating the cabinets of the world")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORFoecIkNEQ

Not biased speculation at all?

Why we need to give insects the role they deserve in our food systems
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/why-we-need-to-give-insects-the-role-they-deserve-in-our-food-systems/

And why did you link this then? Yes, insects are excellent source of protein.

5 reasons we need to start nurturing – and eating – weeds
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/weeds-good-food-control-climate-change/

Yes, vegetarian food is good.

The US must rethink how it uses and reuses wastewater
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/04/wastewater-us-circular-rethink/

Yeah, this has good points

They want us to "own nothing and be happy" what does that say about the agenda about the WEF? They want feudalism where we are the serfs, and there are only a few nobles and kings.

Who is they? I thought "THEY" wanted us to consume and make profits for them which would be the opposite of owning nothing. This doesn't make any sense but few conspiracies do. Are you talking about Trump followers? Because they seem to want this serfs and nobles thing.

I think both Zel and Putin are in on this together because why is Europe pushing its "Green" agenda about disrupting....
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That's why this war happened.

This text needs so much folio that i would need a folio factory to decypher it.

Here's a link that explains what you are most likely experiencing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

[cmg777]

You know that Time magazine had Hitler and Stalin (twice) as person of the year as well...

And they deserved it.  Whether you've done good or evil is not considered when deciding who wins.  Just who had the biggest effect on the news of the year.

You and Pixie have a point here. Time is a magazine I'm just saying that they have polarizing people on them. The Time pic reply with SBF was just a minor footnote in what I am trying to say here.

Its not because Putin wants control of the Ukraine our dear elite that run things behind the scenes want control of this world.

No, Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin wants to control Ukraine.  You really think there's a secret club that called up Putin and Zelensky and said "we need you go to war with each other and make it look like Russia wants to control Ukraine and Ukraine doesn't want to be controlled by Russia so that we can control the world".   That's ridiculous.

Sounds ridiculous to you but just wait until suddenly your store shelves are empty. The power goes on and off. Your city's water stops working and the world stops. It might get blamed on the war or something else altogether but the bottom line something is amiss just like in 2019-2021 for the pandemic theater. There are shortages and it seems like rather than a war in Eurasia its a war on humanity and the current mostly capitalist system since the "pandemic". There is a global consortium that wants humanity to heel to them nation-states are starting to become irrelevant look at the EU as a greater example. I don't want any of this I'm trying to warn you.

Maybe this guy should be included in your post since he laundered I mean "donated" so much to the Ukraine:

Ukraine used FTX to convert all their crypto donations to fiat.  That's literally all there is to the story.  I don't think SBF even donated money directly to Ukraine.  But if he wanted to, he wouldn't have made it a secret (unlike the dark money donations he claims he made to Republicans).

Wrong SBF gave money to both parties but mainly the Democrats:

SBF was No. 2 donor to Democrats
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-team-among-top-political-donors-before-bankruptcy-11669031663161.html

"Mr. Bankman-Fried was the No. 2 overall top donor to Democrats in the election cycle, only behind George Soros, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Mr. Salame was the No. 11 overall donor to Republicans."


As for the Ukraine....

Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX Collapse Touches Ukraine, the World Economic Forum, Silicon Valley and Both Sides of D.C.
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/11/sam-bankman-frieds-ftx-collapse-touches-ukraine-the-world-economic-forum-silicon-valley-and-both-sides-of-d-c/

"Sam Bankman-Fried is a name you’re going to hear a lot about over the next year – and rightly so. The implosion of his cryptocurrency empire is like if Enron and Bernie Madoff had a baby, and that baby became the 2nd largest Democratic Party donor on his 2nd birthday while partnering with the World Economic Forum and the Bank of Ukraine."

"According to reporting from Coin Desk, the Ukrainian government partnered with FTX to help convert cryptocurrency “donations” into arms and war supplies. According to some estimates, between FTX and the National Bank of Ukraine facilitated the flow of up to $100 million worth of bitcoin and cryptocurrency for the war effort."

Ukraine Partners With FTX, Everstake to Launch New Crypto Donation Website
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/

"A press release on the Aid to Ukraine efforts reads:

The official website for Aid For Ukraine, an initiative that raises funds from the crypto community for the benefit of Ukraine’s military and humanitarian needs, has officially launched. The initiative is powered by the Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine, FTX, and Everstake. This is the first instance of a cryptocurrency exchange providing a conduit for crypto donations to a public financial institution."

Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX Founder: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/sam-bankman-fried-ukraine-politics-biden/

Sure Putin was the problem created by the WEF's direction to do so. Meanwhile Zelensky gets funding from the US, EU, and other western nations to 'fight' them. But the real "solution" against a further awakening western populous is to starve them of food and energy resources by instigating this war. This is to keep us in line as I said...

No that's just a bs claim without any basis on reality. I might regret this question but who exactly is "Keepin us in line" since you are using quotes?

No to you its the World Economic Forum and Bilderberg group along with many others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting

Putin speaks at Davo 2021 World Economic Forum before the war
https://www.weforum.org/events/the-davos-agenda-2021/sessions/special-address-by-vladimir-putin-president-of-the-russian-federation

Yes, let's listen more to lying, misogynic, homophobic, murderous dictators when they didn't want to hear reason in the first place.

Ok I might actually agree with you here (yet disagree with you). Klaus Schwab and Vladimir Putin could be viewed as dictators but we have to listen to them in order to see the bigger picture that is their plans for the world. If you don't have a discourse with people we disagree with then how can we learn new things? If we just listened to those we agree then we would do the same things over and over again.

I will own nothing and be happy WEF Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=3d27f3c41735

Oh the horrors. This literal fiction must be an evil communist plot i am guessing?

KLAUS SCHWAB Question CANCELLED in CANADIAN Parliament ("penetrating the cabinets of the world")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORFoecIkNEQ

Not biased speculation at all?

Why we need to give insects the role they deserve in our food systems
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/why-we-need-to-give-insects-the-role-they-deserve-in-our-food-systems/

And why did you link this then? Yes, insects are excellent source of protein.

5 reasons we need to start nurturing – and eating – weeds
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/weeds-good-food-control-climate-change/

Yes, vegetarian food is good.

The US must rethink how it uses and reuses wastewater
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/04/wastewater-us-circular-rethink/

Yeah, this has good points

Yes this a communist plot but the new system will be far worse than communism. You would not have a choice and it will be hard to resist if at all. No this isn't speculation but reality and you aren't seeing the bigger picture. The cabinets are penetrated by these organizations and that is why all of this is unfolding. War, food and energy shortages, pandemics, etc because they want to create the "problem" the public then "reacts" to it and then they come in with the "Solution". So their solutions are no more animal protein or choice of food. You'll eat bugs, weeds and recycled wastewater.

They want us to "own nothing and be happy" what does that say about the agenda about the WEF? They want feudalism where we are the serfs, and there are only a few nobles and kings.

Who is they? I thought "THEY" wanted us to consume and make profits for them which would be the opposite of owning nothing. This doesn't make any sense but few conspiracies do. Are you talking about Trump followers? Because they seem to want this serfs and nobles thing.

I think both Zel and Putin are in on this together because why is Europe pushing its "Green" agenda about disrupting....
-cut-
That's why this war happened.

This text needs so much folio that i would need a folio factory to decypher it.

Here's a link that explains what you are most likely experiencing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

Did I mention Trump at all in my replies to you here? He must live rent-free in your head. He has nothing to do with the Ukraine and is presently a politically, irrelevant person at this time. I don't want any of this at all that is why I'm trying to tell you people about this. I don't want this war, nor the implications of what is happening in the background. Otherwise I would chose not to post at all but most of the ignorance of people on here make me question why I bother.

Here is a link of what I think you are experiencing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)#:~:text=An%20echo%20chamber%20is%20%22an,reflect%20and%20reinforce%20their%20own.%22

[TwitchySeal]

Wrong SBF gave money to both parties but mainly the Democrats:

SBF was No. 2 donor to Democrats
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-team-among-top-political-donors-before-bankruptcy-11669031663161.html

"Mr. Bankman-Fried was the No. 2 overall top donor to Democrats in the election cycle, only behind George Soros, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Mr. Salame was the No. 11 overall donor to Republicans."

Sam Bankman-Fried says he donated just as many millions to Republicans as Democrats, but didn’t publicize it because reporters would ‘freak the f–k out’
“All my Republican donations were dark. The reason was not for regulatory reasons, it’s because reporters freak the fuck out if you donate to Republicans. They’re all super liberal, and I didn’t want to have that fight.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans

Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX Collapse Touches Ukraine, the World Economic Forum, Silicon Valley and Both Sides of D.C.
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/11/sam-bankman-frieds-ftx-collapse-touches-ukraine-the-world-economic-forum-silicon-valley-and-both-sides-of-d-c/

"Sam Bankman-Fried is a name you’re going to hear a lot about over the next year – and rightly so. The implosion of his cryptocurrency empire is like if Enron and Bernie Madoff had a baby, and that baby became the 2nd largest Democratic Party donor on his 2nd birthday while partnering with the World Economic Forum and the Bank of Ukraine."

"According to reporting from Coin Desk, the Ukrainian government partnered with FTX to help convert cryptocurrency “donations” into arms and war supplies. According to some estimates, between FTX and the National Bank of Ukraine facilitated the flow of up to $100 million worth of bitcoin and cryptocurrency for the war effort."

Ukraine Partners With FTX, Everstake to Launch New Crypto Donation Website
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/

"A press release on the Aid to Ukraine efforts reads:

The official website for Aid For Ukraine, an initiative that raises funds from the crypto community for the benefit of Ukraine’s military and humanitarian needs, has officially launched. The initiative is powered by the Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine, FTX, and Everstake. This is the first instance of a cryptocurrency exchange providing a conduit for crypto donations to a public financial institution."

Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX Founder: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/sam-bankman-fried-ukraine-politics-biden/

Other than the $25 FTX credit for Ukrainian FTX users, all they did was help converting crypto to fiat.  There was no laundering because Ukraine never sent anything back.  Everything that was donated to the addresses shared by government officials were converted to fiat and deposited directly into Ukraines National Bank.  Also, FTX was only involved for about a month in March/April and was only involved in exchanging a couple million of the couple hundred million.  It's just a stupid conspiracy theory from idiots who love to make connections that don't exist but help confirm their bias.

The mainewire article you posted isn't false.  It explains the conspiracy theory can only be true if Ukraine was somehow investing in FTX.  We now know that wasn't happening.  The theory no longer makes sense.  

From the article:

However, it’s unclear whether FTX’s relationship with Ukraine involved any Ukrainian investment into FTX. On the surface, it looks like SBF was virtue signaling his anti-Russian credentials by converting cryptocurrency for Ukraine – lending a crypto hand to the war effort. But with so many cryptocurrency shenanigans going on, it’s hard to know for sure what the flow of money really looked like. If Ukrainian relief money was flowing onto FTX’s books, that would raise serious questions for the U.S. government, considering U.S. taxpayers have shelled out more than $60 billion in aid for Ukraine’s war effort.

Why The Theory That Sam Bankman-Fried Laundered Ukraine Aid Makes No Sense
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/11/15/why-the-theory-that-sam-bankman-fried-laundered-ukraine-aid-makes-no-sense

Posts spin baseless theory about FTX, Ukraine and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ftx-ukraine-democrats-laundering-996663874380

[cmg777]

SBF donated to both parties and has nothing to do with the Ukraine (nothing to see here...)

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug. Why haven't they arrested SBF for the fraud he committed? Is he too big to jail like the banksters of 2008 we tried to get away from in crypto? Is it because he donated to both parties and by arresting him he can snitch on all of them? Your thoughts?

[o48o]

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug. Why haven't they arrested SBF for the fraud he committed? Is he too big to jail like the banksters of 2008 we tried to get away from in crypto? Is it because he donated to both parties and by arresting him he can snitch on all of them? Your thoughts?

Well i am stepping in. One reason could be that they need to go trough mountain of evidence to even decide if they can extradite / contain him, and should they yet even do that. And, who is going to arrest him? He lives in bahamas and most likely haven't broke any laws in there, and bahamas likes to protect their criminals, if they would give up people easily, many criminals wouldn't choose it as place to live.

Also it was FTX international that failed, didn't accept US customers so i am not even sure if they broke any US law. But this is a huge case and so many people and firms were affected that it can take months or even years to build a case against him. People just think that because ftx went down fast we could arrest him fast as well.

[BADecker]

So this war happened

because Putin wanted to control Ukraine.

That's why this war happened.


Easiest decision Time has made in recent memory...

https://i.gyazo.com/ca8f74187090b6a27e79d4e83bba272a.png

The war was made by the US trying to destroy Russia through Ukraine. Russia's part was simply to stop the US from taking over Ukraine.

Here is why it's so hard to get to the truth: US legal propaganda - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/687/video/LEGAL_PROPAGANDA.MP4.

[TwitchySeal]

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug.

Do you want to grow up to be like BADecker?  Because that's what's going to happen if you don't learn how to let a stupid conspiracy theory go.

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug. Why haven't they arrested SBF for the fraud he committed? Is he too big to jail like the banksters of 2008 we tried to get away from in crypto? Is it because he donated to both parties and by arresting him he can snitch on all of them? Your thoughts?

Well i am stepping in. One reason could be that they need to go trough mountain of evidence to even decide if they can extradite / contain him, and should they yet even do that. And, who is going to arrest him? He lives in bahamas and most likely haven't broke any laws in there, and bahamas likes to protect their criminals, if they would give up people easily, many criminals wouldn't choose it as place to live.

Also it was FTX international that failed, didn't accept US customers so i am not even sure if they broke any US law. But this is a huge case and so many people and firms were affected that it can take months or even years to build a case against him. People just think that because ftx went down fast we could arrest him fast as well.

Pretty much this.

And even if they had everything in order to issue an arrest warrant today, why would they mess up SBFs busy schedule of incriminating himself every other day to a new major media outlet?  

[BADecker]

Just to show that it is the US that is making wars, watch what will happen, now. The US and Nato will try to break up the Russia-China alliance any way they can. But first the alliance will get stronger... almost to BRICS strangth.

Note that the Russia-China gas agreement was signed in 2014... same year the US did their major coup takeover of Ukraine.


Russia's mega gas pipeline to China nearly complete - Xinhua

A crucial section of the East Route natural gas pipeline between Russia and China has been completed, Xinhua News agency reported on Wednesday, citing construction company PipeChina.

The section will allow gas to be transported from Russia to China's eastern economic powerhouse Shanghai, according to the report.

The 5,111 km cross-border pipeline reportedly enters China via the border city of Heihe in northeastern Heilongjiang Province, and runs through nine provincial regions, supplying natural gas to areas along the route, including Beijing, Shanghai, and Tianjin.

...

[LTU_btc]

News from alternative reality - Russia destroyed 4 HIMARS systems (again):
https://tass.com/politics/1547125
Probably they already destroyed few times more HIMARS than Ukraine actually have.

Sure Putin was the problem created by the WEF's direction to do so. Meanwhile Zelensky gets funding from the US, EU, and other western nations to 'fight' them. But the real "solution" against a further awakening western populous is to starve them of food and energy resources by instigating this war. This is to keep us in line as I said...

So many conspiracy theories in one post. But I think that you forgot to add something about Covid and vaccines that it were made to reduce world population.

Translation: "I believe everything the mainstream media says"

You know that Time magazine had Hitler and Stalin (twice) as person of the year as well... Its not because Putin wants control of the Ukraine our dear elite that run things behind the scenes want control of this world.

So? Quote from 75th edition of Time - ''Person of the Year is an annual issue of the United States news magazine and website Time featuring a person, a group, an idea, or an object that "for better or for worse ... has done the most to influence the events of the year"
Where it's said that it have to be person who have done something positive? Shortly, it's person who was most influential that year. Probably half of these people were selected from negative perspective.

[cmg777]

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug.

Do you want to grow up to be like BADecker?  Because that's what's going to happen if you don't learn how to let a stupid conspiracy theory go.

I already surpass him in this. Actually, you agree with BADecker and don't realize. Why? Because you pick the sides that are handed to you. East: Russia, China, Middle East, etc vs. West: US, EU, CA, NZ, AU, etc. When in actually there is one-side and it is winning over the masses. You think the elite fight amongst one another to a degree yes but they've become more complacent in the current crony capitalist system we have (not true anarchic capitalism). The question is will the masses wake up and realize they are being played by both sides which as I have said before created the problem: Food and Energy along with other artificial resource shortages per green policy and war which will bring about a reaction: from the masses: riots, chaos, shutdowns of local infrastructure and their solution: kneel to the elite and take their deal of CBDCs and full control of your mind and efforts which benefit them.

Ok aside from US political party donations and potential aid to the Ukraine which the media seem to want pushed under the rug. Why haven't they arrested SBF for the fraud he committed? Is he too big to jail like the banksters of 2008 we tried to get away from in crypto? Is it because he donated to both parties and by arresting him he can snitch on all of them? Your thoughts?

Well i am stepping in. One reason could be that they need to go trough mountain of evidence to even decide if they can extradite / contain him, and should they yet even do that. And, who is going to arrest him? He lives in bahamas and most likely haven't broke any laws in there, and bahamas likes to protect their criminals, if they would give up people easily, many criminals wouldn't choose it as place to live.

Also it was FTX international that failed, didn't accept US customers so i am not even sure if they broke any US law. But this is a huge case and so many people and firms were affected that it can take months or even years to build a case against him. People just think that because ftx went down fast we could arrest him fast as well.

Pretty much this.

And even if they had everything in order to issue an arrest warrant today, why would they mess up SBFs busy schedule of incriminating himself every other day to a new major media outlet?  

I have to agree with you on this one. I'm thinking he might walk with the connections he has which will piss people off. I mean look at others that screwed over their customer base and walked off. If they would have arrested him by now then I could see something would happen in a legal sense but he seems to still be a free man and even if they try to arrest him I bet he'll hide out like the others have.

[suchmoon]

you pick the sides that are handed to you

How come all those anti-establishment independent thinkers who can see through this massive conspiracy don't actually switch to the "side" they're shilling for? Like move to Russia because of its freedoms and traditional values. Instead they choose to suffer in the rotten capitalist West that's forcibly "handed" to them, and love Putin remotely. Ain't that weird?

[TwitchySeal]

I already surpass him in this.

Oh really?  Despite being unable to articulate an original idea and having the reading comprehension of a middle schooler he's averaged more than 11 posts a day for the past 9 years. Created almost 2,000 threads most frequently about articles from Mike Adams network of literal fake news sites that only exist to sell scam alternative medical supplements to the most gullible people on the internet.  (naturalnews is the biggest).  

[BADecker]

you pick the sides that are handed to you

How come all those anti-establishment independent thinkers who can see through this massive conspiracy don't actually switch to the "side" they're shilling for? Like move to Russia because of its freedoms and traditional values. Instead they choose to suffer in the rotten capitalist West that's forcibly "handed" to them, and love Putin remotely. Ain't that weird?

Why is it that reporting the news you fail to see makes you think that somebody has taken sides one way or another?

Look at what China has just done... "China buying up the world’s GOLD supply in preparation for new world reserve currency designed to END the DOLLAR - https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-08-china-buying-up-the-worlds-gold-supply-in-preparation-for-new-world-reserve-currency.html#."

Look at what China and Russia are doing... "As Europe freezes due to lack of energy, Russia nears completion of gas mega-pipeline to China - https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-08-europe-freezes-russia-completes-gas-pipeline-china.html#."

Would you rather stick your head in a hole in the sand and not think about the dangers of these things? BRICS is setting itself up to take over the world as the USD fails. But just because somebody reports it to you, you suggest that he is on the side of the enemies.

It's a warning... a warning to look at where things might be going and easily could be going.

Russia and China are totally bad in their governments. But so is the US government, even if American citizens are reasonably good. And probably Russian people are good, as well.

Take the warning and use it to look at the parts of the story that you seem to want to ignore.

[paxmao]

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LOTS OF STUFF VAGELY RELATED TO THE TOPIC MUDDYING THE CONVERSATION
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Please open your own thread and discuss there world hunger, how wrong is the mainstream media, how smart are you for not believing it and your views on entomology and human nutrition.

Regarding Person of the Year, it is not the Nobel Peace price, an Times just chooses someone who has been very influential during the year. Stalin was influential and until the Holodomor and the real production of the USSR was properly understood, he seemed to be working miracles. Putin also seemed to have taken a decision to take the RF to a higher integration with the larger economies...

Aw... normal guys have their 40s crisis and solve it by buying an expensive car... why did he wait to have his personal crisis at 70 and invaded a country instead? Who the f*** knows.

[tvbcof]

you pick the sides that are handed to you

How come all those anti-establishment independent thinkers who can see through this massive conspiracy don't actually switch to the "side" they're shilling for? Like move to Russia because of its freedoms and traditional values. Instead they choose to suffer in the rotten capitalist West that's forcibly "handed" to them, and love Putin remotely. Ain't that weird?

I've been studying the subject a lot lately.  It's not particularly easy to just 'switch sides' physically.  Even the handful of nations who will sell citizenship (e.g., Turkey) do want upwards of half a million $$$.  And most of those countries exist at the pleasure of corrupt funders (e.g., the U.N., and friends) so I would consider them fairly unstable and ready, at the wave of the wand, to have the Chinese military come in to force vaccinate for something as benign as the fucking measles (which we kids use to welcome just to get a week off school.)  (See https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/the-killing-fields-of-samoa)

For my part I am looking closely at countries which are likely to end up under the wing of Russia since their people may be able to heat/cool their houses going forward.  It's highly possible that Russia/Putin is running a scam along with his other WEF cohorts.  In that case, the Russians and the rest of the people under their wing will be in the 'unipolar' technocratic dictatorship and owning nothing, eating bugs, and being happy just like the peeps in the 'collective West' will be.

[suchmoon]

I've been studying the subject a lot lately.  It's not particularly easy to just 'switch sides' physically. Even the handful of nations who will sell citizenship (e.g., Turkey) do want upwards of half a million $$$.

You're studying something irrelevant. You don't need citizenship to pursue freedom in the dictatorship country of your choice. Russia will happily hand out permanent resident permits to pretty much anyone, all you need is a job.

[montaga]

,,.....a job.

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The central figure of the Book of Job, one of the prophets of the Gentiles.

[tvbcof]

I've been studying the subject a lot lately.  It's not particularly easy to just 'switch sides' physically. Even the handful of nations who will sell citizenship (e.g., Turkey) do want upwards of half a million $$$.

You're studying something irrelevant. You don't need citizenship to pursue freedom in the dictatorship country of your choice. Russia will happily hand out permanent resident permits to pretty much anyone, all you need is a job.

The last thing I need or have any interest in is a job.  Been there, done that.  I also don't need a place to actually live since I have a number of properties that I like.

What I really need is a passport else I wouldn't be looking at all.  Turkey will give you citizenship if you start a company and hire 50 people or more, but providing that sounds dangerously close to 'a job' from my perspective.  I'm leery that any of these countries will still exist in their present form for all that much longer, and will the replacement honor the deal?  The nice thing about a Turkish citizenship is you don't have to learn Turkish or spend much time in the place.

Honestly, the 'special military operation' has elevated my perception of the Russian nation by quite a bit.  I'd not re-calibrated from my youth when it was the Soviet Union and such a re-calibration was overdue.  Putin seems to have bent over backwards to resolve the necessary issues in the most humane way possible out of deference to the salvageable elements of Ukrainian population, and the actual Russian citizenry have shown a surprising degree of tolerance for his methods in the face of sacrifices and some really ugly actions by the NaZiocons.  These don't seem to be the people I (thought I) knew after going through the grist mill of Soviet Communism and Chicago-school gang rape complements of Yeltsin.

All said, based on the best information I can ascertain, Russia is kind of near the top of governments who I could feel OK about marginally supporting (and maybe more).  I'd have to study more in order to swear to it I'd need to do some more due diligence.  I know of some objectionable issues in domestic policy, and being the most ethical large government is a bit like being the thinnest kid at fat camp.  Ethical considerations aside, I think that Russia, given her resources, is well poised to provide her citizens a relatively decent quality of life if they don't fall into the technocratic 'great reset' trap.  The Russian leadership seem to be among the few who even have the potential to spot the disadvantages of doing so.

But Russia doesn't sell citizenship as best I can tell.  Currently also their passports kinda suck, but I don't think that will last forever, and don't see much reason to go to places which are childish enough to not accept them.  Said 'enemies' probably won't have energy anyway and if they stick to their inane politics they won't last long.

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I've been studying the subject a lot lately.  It's not particularly easy to just 'switch sides' physically. Even the handful of nations who will sell citizenship (e.g., Turkey) do want upwards of half a million $$$.

You're studying something irrelevant. You don't need citizenship to pursue freedom in the dictatorship country of your choice. Russia will happily hand out permanent resident permits to pretty much anyone, all you need is a job.

And probably some Russian? I mean, sound like an obstacle to many.

BTW not a "handful" of countries sell citizenships... US, Australia, Canada, UK, Spain, Italy... all have golden visa. I am not going to research, but with around a million USD you can probably be welcome anywhere. And the funny news is that the money does not always have to be yours: think Entrepreneurs visa, just for raising half a mill or so.

Anyway, the point is true and we are still waiting for news of BA Decker's application for RF citizenship and be.open's frontline pictures.