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March 05, 2025, 11:56:17 PM
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A little like today's Ukrainians that are left in Ukraine... The Bolsheviks were Russian revolutionaries who found help and financing from the West. When they took over Russia, they threw off the control of the West. In fact, that was what Stalin was constantly doing his whole life - throwing off controls the West tried to place on him - though he killed of a big bunch of his own people to do it.


I've heard it said that the lingua-franca of the early Bolshevik government was Yiddish and it changed over a couple of years as the higher-up government operators learned Russian.  I have no reason to doubt this, and it aligns with a lot of other stories and observations.

I've also heard it said that the Little Green Goblin only learned to speak Ukrainian later in life, and when they drop the charade and speak Russian when the cameras are not on them.  It would be interesting to know if LGG and the likes of Vicki Nudelman prefer English or Hebrew (or Yiddish for that matter) when talking among themselves.


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In fact, that was what Stalin was constantly doing his whole life - throwing off controls the West tried to place on him - though he killed of a big bunch of his own people to do it.

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Stalin worshipped Satan. https://andrewgough.co.uk/stalin-2/ ....The soviet system was a Satanic system..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(Greek_mythology) ...aka the seven sisters.........stalins skyscrapers etc etc etc ....hitler also worshipped satan ....hence he was the slayer of the jews....the final slayer will come for the last remnant of the christian,jew in a new world system. Don't praise satans acolytes.




I've heard it said that the lingua-franca of the early Bolshevik government was Yiddish and it changed over a couple of years as the higher-up government operators learned Russian.  I have no reason to doubt this, and it aligns with a lot of other stories and observations.

I've also heard it said that the Little Green Goblin only learned to speak Ukrainian later in life, and when they drop the charade and speak Russian when the cameras are not on them.  It would be interesting to know if LGG and the likes of Vicki Nudelman prefer English or Hebrew (or Yiddish for that matter) when talking among themselves.






It has NOTHING to do with the real jews apart from making it look like it has something to do with the real jews. Just because you identify as a jew does not make you an actual good jew anymore than calling yourself a catholic in name makes you a good catholic by nature. Jesus of Nazareth was a good jew,St paul was a good jew,St peter was a good jew...they are jews. They were also murdered through the plotting of the temple leaders and handed over by another jew called judas. Same for the Catholics...it has NOTHING to do with ordinary devout peoples. Look at the pious OPUS DEI and how the leader presented a book called "the way" to pious followers when there is NO OTHER WAY but the way of Jesus Christ of nazareth.

No how do you destroy the ancient church established by Christ himself? Well you infiltrate and weaken from withing and because you cannot destroy it then you make some changes.It is this very church that will be the highest prize for the antichrist while taking down the good jews and catholics with him through deceit and delusions in building a new "universal" church for all faiths and none.

Zelensky is useful only in the very fact he identifies as a jew because it takes the bad look off the actual nazi issue in ukraine such as Right Sector and the Azov Battalion, who revere the World War II Ukrainian fascist leader Stepan Bandera, took part in the coup as well as in the ongoing violence against Lugansk and Donetsk.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

Anyway Russia fell for the trap once the stage was set the same way Israel has fallen for the trap the devil has laid for them. And now the EU will borrow more to make tanks while their debt is increased right up to the economic crash before the final reset.

The whole "its the jews" only works when TPTB need it to be. Look down south for example to mexico and the carbon credit darling is now in office.........tell her those policies are stupid and you are told how can they be as shes a climate scientist ....its a catholic country so tell her you disagree with abortion and you will be labelled a misoginist against womens rights to kill in the womb but hey what if you are a catholic woman who disagrees? ...well obviously you cannot be labelled a misogynisy as easily but you can be called an anti semite. Win win

The joke is on the confused masses one set up against the other while they build a "universal church for all faiths" and their last world leader is put in place and all power granted to him through their networks and the digital cage is built around them. That is the modus operandi of all minions within each institution from global thinktanks,the masonic lodges to the mosques,churches,temples,synagogues etc.

One world religion/One world government/One world currency and the super intelligence to aggregate and correolate the data. The key players are in place at ALL times behind the facade of democracy or whatever form of plutocracy is going on and the autocratic measures will become more blatant now as the timeline to get this business done is running out but it will always have to be the masses who will literally cry out for these measures in the end after being thrown from one side to the other after the pot has been stirred up.

Remember if there were no criminals you would need no security and if there was no crisis you would need no solution. Even the most simple mind (not referring to you) should be able to grasp this if they put away the X-box for a few hours and think about how we all got to this point and state in time and what has been prepared and how it all came about.

The battleground is humankind and there are only two sides... good and evil and the battle is for those who haven't made up their minds yet. There are good russians and good ukrainians the same as there are good jews and good christians the same as there are bad russians and bad ukrainians the same as there are bad jews and bad christians. Forget about what is in name and look at what is in nature.
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March 06, 2025, 04:01:39 PM
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The Ukraine war is like a gigantic dinosaur, or like a big long snake. Chop off the head, and it takes a long time for some parts of the body to recognize that it is dead. So, it keeps on moving along like nothing happened.


Doug Casey on the Geopolitical Shockwaves of Russia's Victory in Ukraine



https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-geopolitical-shockwaves-of-russias-victory-in-ukraine/
International Man: After spending over $350 billion—half of which is reportedly unaccounted for - the US government is finally pulling the plug on supporting the Ukraine in its war with Russia.

What do you make of this?

Doug Casey: It was criminally insane for the US to involve itself in a border war between two countries on the other side of the world. Not many Americans know that "Ukraine," which was previously always known as "the Ukraine," means borderland. It was just a region, like Kurdistan, with undefined shifting borders until Lenin created it in 1921.

Why, you might ask, would the West take a chance on starting World War III over the most corrupt country in Europe?

Several reasons. For one, Ukraine has been a highly effective laundromat. Gigantic amounts of American tax dollars disappeared into a black hole to re-emerge in the pockets of NGOs, masquerading as aid. For another, connected scumbags like the Bidens got fat. Scores of billions were redistributed to weapons manufacturers, military contractors, and God knows who else. And, of course, a large coterie of Neocons in DC have made careers out of trying to destroy Russia at any cost.
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March 06, 2025, 04:16:37 PM
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The Ukraine war is like a gigantic dinosaur, or like a big long snake. Chop off the head, and it takes a long time for some parts of the body to recognize that it is dead. So, it keeps on moving along like nothing happened.


Doug Casey on the Geopolitical Shockwaves of Russia's Victory in Ukraine



https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-geopolitical-shockwaves-of-russias-victory-in-ukraine/
International Man: After spending over $350 billion—half of which is reportedly unaccounted for - the US government is finally pulling th[...]

Is not unnacounted for, it is completely made up by Trump. You can notice that it grew as he needed to make it look bigger to justify dropping Ukraine into Putin's hands.

Most of it was military aid, not money and is actually creating US jobs.
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The Ukraine war is like a gigantic dinosaur, or like a big long snake. Chop off the head, and it takes a long time for some parts of the body to recognize that it is dead. So, it keeps on moving along like nothing happened.


Doug Casey on the Geopolitical Shockwaves of Russia's Victory in Ukraine



https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-geopolitical-shockwaves-of-russias-victory-in-ukraine/
International Man: After spending over $350 billion—half of which is reportedly unaccounted for - the US government is finally pulling th[...]

Is not unnacounted for, it is completely made up by Trump. You can notice that it grew as he needed to make it look bigger to justify dropping Ukraine into Putin's hands.

Most of it was military aid, not money and is actually creating US jobs.

Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. Europe is a big flop regarding supporting Ukraine. The Big Bank owners are out of options. Most of the people are waking up across the West. They won't stand for their leaders doing this crap for much longer.

As for being made up by Trump, it was set in place by Biden, not Trump.


When you read Revelations in the Bible, a description of Western Banking system is there. It will crash. Personally, I believe the crash is in the process, now. MAGA is part of what God is using to do it.


The Death of Europe: High Taxes, Too Many Regulations… Economic Stagnation



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Many Americans say the United States should follow Europe's example: free healthcare, generous welfare benefits, protection for workers.

But what they don't tell you is that Europe is falling behind.
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March 06, 2025, 11:40:13 PM
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Is not unnacounted for, it is completely made up by Trump. You can notice that it grew as he needed to make it look bigger to justify dropping Ukraine into Putin's hands.

Most of it was military aid, not money and is actually creating US jobs.

Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]

What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
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Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]


What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.

Why should Trump plan a security agreement for Ukraine? Z doesn't want peace. He would simply be the Putin you talk about. How do we know? He started the war by moving troops to the border, and by fighting his own people in Donetsk and the Donbas for nothing.

With the kind of leader Z is, looks like Putin is going to have to shut Ukraine down just to get peace.

You know what this war is about, just like anyone who looks. It's about the Western bankers trying to steal Russia and Siberia from the Russians, something they have been trying to do for over 100 years.

What the US needs to do is make a solid statement by removing the sanctions against Russia. Europe is failing as it is. If the US did that, Europe would simply wither on the vine.

You jokers should really forget Ukraine and concentrate on making trade deals with Russia.

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If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.

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Is not unnacounted for, it is completely made up by Trump. You can notice that it grew as he needed to make it look bigger to justify dropping Ukraine into Putin's hands.

Most of it was military aid, not money and is actually creating US jobs.

Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]

What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.

I remember when The U.S.S.R. failed and the Trilateral Agreement promised to protect Ukraine against aggression if it gave up its nuclear weapons (we Americans promised). It's disappointing to see our leaders berating Ukraine's president on the reality t.v. [shit]show that is America's current political landscape for not being "thankful" to us.

What are most of our past conquests about? An entity with power wants something: resources, and then takes it.
This is kind of old school:

Putin wants Ukraine's sovereignty and his preferred method to get it is by force.

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Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]


What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.

Why should Trump plan a security agreement for Ukraine? Z doesn't want peace. He would simply be the Putin you talk about. How do we know? He started the war by moving troops to the border, and by fighting his own people in Donetsk and the Donbas for nothing.

With the kind of leader Z is, looks like Putin is going to have to shut Ukraine down just to get peace.

You know what this war is about, just like anyone who looks. It's about the Western bankers trying to steal Russia and Siberia from the Russians, something they have been trying to do for over 100 years.

What the US needs to do is make a solid statement by removing the sanctions against Russia. Europe is failing as it is. If the US did that, Europe would simply wither on the vine.

You jokers should really forget Ukraine and concentrate on making trade deals with Russia.

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Ukraine want a lasting peace. Peace can be reached at any moment, you just have to rennounce to having your own contry, let all the people be ruled from Moscow or wait for the next invasion.

This is perfectly rational, no joke. Ruzzia invaded Crimea and then started a permanent conflict in the Donbas - as they know that countries with conflicts cannot join NATO.

Zelensky wants the right peace, just as Ruzzia only speaks of peace always in terms that they know are not acceptable to Ukraine. Again, this is rational from the Kremlin, as their goal is to take all Ukraine and then pressure the democracies of the old Warsaw Pact until they rebuild their empire.

I am not making any of this up. It has happened: Ruzzia invaded and annexed Crimean, kept sending troops and funds to create a conflic in Dombas, it has happened again in the elections in Romania and a number of ciber=attacks in Europe, not to mention the financing of extreme right anti-EU groups.

The only thing that has changed is that the US, despite being a guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine with the Budapest memorandum. having promised to defend Ukraine and its sovereignty has decided that they will simply not do so. They also wish to weaken NATO as much as possible.

I think that the US has forgotten than last time that all the Soviet Republics were under Moscow's thumb, they spend 5 decades trying to topple it and having to spend billions (for real, not by Trump's "accounting") in keeping the US safe.

I hope you get paid in US, the Yuan is not doing that well. Nor the SP500, nor the NASDAQ... nor bitcoin.
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Why should Trump plan a security agreement for Ukraine? Z doesn't want peace. He would simply be the Putin you talk about. How do we know? He started the war by moving troops to the border, and by fighting his own people in Donetsk and the Donbas for nothing.

With the kind of leader Z is, looks like Putin is going to have to shut Ukraine down just to get peace.

You know what this war is about, just like anyone who looks. It's about the Western bankers trying to steal Russia and Siberia from the Russians, something they have been trying to do for over 100 years.

What the US needs to do is make a solid statement by removing the sanctions against Russia. Europe is failing as it is. If the US did that, Europe would simply wither on the vine.

You jokers should really forget Ukraine and concentrate on making trade deals with Russia.

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Ukraine want a lasting peace. Peace can be reached at any moment, you just have to rennounce to having your own contry, let all the people be ruled from Moscow or wait for the next invasion.

This is perfectly rational, no joke. Ruzzia invaded Crimea and then started a permanent conflict in the Donbas - as they know that countries with conflicts cannot join NATO.

Zelensky wants the right peace, just as Ruzzia only speaks of peace always in terms that they know are not acceptable to Ukraine. Again, this is rational from the Kremlin, as their goal is to take all Ukraine and then pressure the democracies of the old Warsaw Pact until they rebuild their empire.

I am not making any of this up. It has happened: Ruzzia invaded and annexed Crimean, kept sending troops and funds to create a conflic in Dombas, it has happened again in the elections in Romania and a number of ciber=attacks in Europe, not to mention the financing of extreme right anti-EU groups.

The only thing that has changed is that the US, despite being a guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine with the Budapest memorandum. having promised to defend Ukraine and its sovereignty has decided that they will simply not do so. They also wish to weaken NATO as much as possible.

I think that the US has forgotten than last time that all the Soviet Republics were under Moscow's thumb, they spend 5 decades trying to topple it and having to spend billions (for real, not by Trump's "accounting") in keeping the US safe.

I hope you get paid in US, the Yuan is not doing that well. Nor the SP500, nor the NASDAQ... nor bitcoin.

You are missing the big picture. If you want to see what is really going on, watch this half-hour video... a guy who has been head of the UN Security Council in the past.


Singapore's Top Diplomat Reveals TRUTH About Ukraine and Future of Europe


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I am sure there is a reason why he was there "in the past". I mean, being from Singapur and having no longer a job, you have a high chance the dude is being paid by China, like you probably.

Anyway, there are more important things going on than your stupid walltexts. Unfortunately, the decission of the US of not sharing intelligence is causing many deaths in the Ukrainian cities - civilian casualties mostly. The early warning about the launch of ballistic and non-ballistic missiles towards cities is gone and now Ruzzia is making sure the Ukrainian civil population is under permanent threat.

I wonder how Trump intends to justify this versus all his silly and phoney narrative about "young people getting killed". One more of the fallacies in Trump's narrative.

The "announce" Trump made on increasing sanction sound ridiculous compared to the immense damage created to Ukraine just by not even allowing them to defend properly. I think any country with relations with the US should consider these as a risk.

To note, US officials have been trying to stage a coup in Ukraine. Yes, that is right.

However there are also good news, the French Mirages are quite active intercepting cruise missiles and Toresk is being progressively recovered by Ukraine.

And on the concerning news... Poland has announced that they are considering getting a nuclear arsenal. This is what happens when Ruzzia threaten and invade taking advantage of a bigger arsenal - everyone else thinks it is about the right moment to get nukes.
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Russia ran with their tails between their legs from Syria when a few jihadists who were trained by ukrainian,turkish and others took over with a few pick ups and black shiny suits supplied by the saudis instead of standing their ground and burning the islamic extremists from the earth.How do you think they will manage to take over ukraine? The regime in ukraine led by the pretend jew are supported by much greater firepower. Putin has sacrificed more of his own citizens than any army could manage to kill. The russian people should not be praising putin for being such a useless strategist and costing the lives of so many of its sons. In fact his strategy has actually worked in favour of the so called enemies.
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Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]


What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.

Why should Trump plan a security agreement for Ukraine? Z doesn't want peace. He would simply be the Putin you talk about. How do we know? He started the war by moving troops to the border, and by fighting his own people in Donetsk and the Donbas for nothing.

With the kind of leader Z is, looks like Putin is going to have to shut Ukraine down just to get peace.

You know what this war is about, just like anyone who looks. It's about the Western bankers trying to steal Russia and Siberia from the Russians, something they have been trying to do for over 100 years.

What the US needs to do is make a solid statement by removing the sanctions against Russia. Europe is failing as it is. If the US did that, Europe would simply wither on the vine.

You jokers should really forget Ukraine and concentrate on making trade deals with Russia.

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Ukraine want a lasting peace. Peace can be reached at any moment, you just have to rennounce to having your own contry, let all the people be ruled from Moscow or wait for the next invasion.

This is perfectly rational, no joke. Ruzzia invaded Crimea and then started a permanent conflict in the Donbas - as they know that countries with conflicts cannot join NATO.

Zelensky wants the right peace, just as Ruzzia only speaks of peace always in terms that they know are not acceptable to Ukraine. Again, this is rational from the Kremlin, as their goal is to take all Ukraine and then pressure the democracies of the old Warsaw Pact until they rebuild their empire.

I am not making any of this up. It has happened: Ruzzia invaded and annexed Crimean, kept sending troops and funds to create a conflic in Dombas, it has happened again in the elections in Romania and a number of ciber=attacks in Europe, not to mention the financing of extreme right anti-EU groups.

The only thing that has changed is that the US, despite being a guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine with the Budapest memorandum. having promised to defend Ukraine and its sovereignty has decided that they will simply not do so. They also wish to weaken NATO as much as possible.

I think that the US has forgotten than last time that all the Soviet Republics were under Moscow's thumb, they spend 5 decades trying to topple it and having to spend billions (for real, not by Trump's "accounting") in keeping the US safe.

I hope you get paid in US, the Yuan is not doing that well. Nor the SP500, nor the NASDAQ... nor bitcoin.

Another silly attempt to rewrite history and confuse cause and effect. But everyone who can read, knows that Ukraine was under Russia's sphere of influence up to 2013, everyone lived fined and neither EU or US cared about it much. And it's the attempt to take Ukraine with cookies into NATO that is the root cause of this all. Now US figured that it's just not worth it to continue, and is now backing off. We all saw how well Ukraine performed with US aid, now think what will happen without it, we can already start to see it in Kursk. The only question left now is how many more people Z is willing to sacrifice, before admitting the inevitable, putting on a suit and starting to negotiate.



If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.

It's quite hilarious that one side is openly admitting to running a proxy war, and now stopping that armament, but it's the proxy itself that's trying to deny it

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For the third time now, Russians used tunnels to infiltrate highly defended areas and collapse said almost overnight.  Ukroids are in a panicked retreat from much of Kursk, and are very likely to drag the rest of their comrades with them as they stampede West leaving a trail of bloody urine.  Thankfully for the Russians, Ukrainians are slow learners.

Word is that the Ukroids committed massive war crimes against the hostage Russian civilians (shame on Russia for allowing this to happen BTW), and the Russians wish to capture alive as many Ukriods as possible.  Many of them seem to be former Ukrainian prisoners and psychopaths (even by Ukrainian standards) so Ukraine would probably be extra happy for them do die at the hands of Russia anyway though.

Russia has pretty good control of a lot of the Sumy regions leading away from Kursk, so even those who do make it out of Russia turf will probably be wiped out en mass anyway.


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If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.

It's quite hilarious that one side is openly admitting to running a proxy war, and now stopping that armament, but it's the proxy itself that's trying to deny it
After so many years of lies, facing harsh reality can hardly be called hilarious, but there is something funny about it.

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Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]


What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.

Why should Trump plan a security agreement for Ukraine? Z doesn't want peace. He would simply be the Putin you talk about. How do we know? He started the war by moving troops to the border, and by fighting his own people in Donetsk and the Donbas for nothing.

With the kind of leader Z is, looks like Putin is going to have to shut Ukraine down just to get peace.

You know what this war is about, just like anyone who looks. It's about the Western bankers trying to steal Russia and Siberia from the Russians, something they have been trying to do for over 100 years.

What the US needs to do is make a solid statement by removing the sanctions against Russia. Europe is failing as it is. If the US did that, Europe would simply wither on the vine.

You jokers should really forget Ukraine and concentrate on making trade deals with Russia.

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Ukraine want a lasting peace. Peace can be reached at any moment, you just have to rennounce to having your own contry, let all the people be ruled from Moscow or wait for the next invasion.

This is perfectly rational, no joke. Ruzzia invaded Crimea and then started a permanent conflict in the Donbas - as they know that countries with conflicts cannot join NATO.

Zelensky wants the right peace, just as Ruzzia only speaks of peace always in terms that they know are not acceptable to Ukraine. Again, this is rational from the Kremlin, as their goal is to take all Ukraine and then pressure the democracies of the old Warsaw Pact until they rebuild their empire.

I am not making any of this up. It has happened: Ruzzia invaded and annexed Crimean, kept sending troops and funds to create a conflic in Dombas, it has happened again in the elections in Romania and a number of ciber=attacks in Europe, not to mention the financing of extreme right anti-EU groups.

The only thing that has changed is that the US, despite being a guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine with the Budapest memorandum. having promised to defend Ukraine and its sovereignty has decided that they will simply not do so. They also wish to weaken NATO as much as possible.

I think that the US has forgotten than last time that all the Soviet Republics were under Moscow's thumb, they spend 5 decades trying to topple it and having to spend billions (for real, not by Trump's "accounting") in keeping the US safe.

I hope you get paid in US, the Yuan is not doing that well. Nor the SP500, nor the NASDAQ... nor bitcoin.

Another silly attempt to rewrite history and confuse cause and effect. But everyone who can read, knows that Ukraine was under Russia's sphere of influence up to 2013, everyone lived fined and neither EU or US cared about it much. And it's the attempt to take Ukraine with cookies into NATO that is the root cause of this all. Now US figured that it's just not worth it to continue, and is now backing off. We all saw how well Ukraine performed with US aid, now think what will happen without it, we can already start to see it in Kursk. The only question left now is how many more people Z is willing to sacrifice, before admitting the inevitable, putting on a suit and starting to negotiate.



If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.

It's quite hilarious that one side is openly admitting to running a proxy war, and now stopping that armament, but it's the proxy itself that's trying to deny it

Rubio needs a narrative, since he has to basically stab Ukraine in the back, so some justification for breaking the Budapest agreement comes very handy.

Well, not as silly as pretending that the world started in 2020 as you have many times done in your posts. Now, that is a silly attempt.

But in the end all shows: you are back to the imperialism, the spheres of influence and the vassal nations. Let me then speak in a language you will understand then:

USSR is gone. It could not deal witht he costs and pressures of a Cold War and imploded. That "Ruzzian sphere of influence" is gone - let me put it plainly: Ruzzia lost it because is not a sufficiently productive and effective Country as to have any short of "sphere". It could be one of the greatest economies on Earth and instead has the GDP of a mid-size EU country. That should give you something to think about.

Ukraine saw the opportunity to get rid of Ruzzia - and anyone can understand why just with some basic history facts and Ruzzia is crying the loosers song about their influece while trying to rebuild and empire. Your basic argument is "it is not fair that the US wipes his ass with our nation". But if you believe so much in spheres of influence, then that is just the loosers cry and nobody is giving sh*t about it.

If it helps you, this is nothing unique in history. The Macedonians, the Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire and even the British Empire eventually loose preminence. It is time to recognise that Ruzzia cannot hold any "sphere" again, unless Trump (your asset I assume) gives it away.

You want to play empires and pretend to have rights over Ukraine? You have failed - unless Trump gets a big enough "Thank$$$$" from Putin and leaves Ukraine for the crowds and still, Europe will keep it up for a long while.

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For the third time now, Russians used tunnels to infiltrate highly defended areas and collapse said almost overnight.  Ukroids are in a panicked retreat from much of Kursk, and are very likely to drag the rest of their comrades with them as they stampede West leaving a trail of bloody urine.  Thankfully for the Russians, Ukrainians are slow learners.

Word is that the Ukroids committed massive war crimes against the hostage Russian civilians (shame on Russia for allowing this to happen BTW), and the Russians wish to capture alive as many Ukriods as possible.  Many of them seem to be former Ukrainian prisoners and psychopaths (even by Ukrainian standards) so Ukraine would probably be extra happy for them do die at the hands of Russia anyway though.

Russia has pretty good control of a lot of the Sumy regions leading away from Kursk, so even those who do make it out of Russia turf will probably be wiped out en mass anyway.



The tunnel rats were all killed yesterday, the idea is nonsense.
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Again, nobody know the future. But Z did it to himself in the White House visit. [...]


What happened at the WH is largely irrelevant. There is an underlying problem that is Trump not planning for a security guarantee for Ukraine and trying to force Ukraine to sign a shitty deal.

Ukraine could have signed that type of deal at anytime during the last three years, but it is obvious (and I have posted recently a detailed analysis) that it does not solve the problem of Putin invading again in a couple of years if not earlier. That type of arrangement is firstly the death sentence for Ukraine and anyway unacceptable for the Ukrainian pairlament and leaders.

If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.

Why should Trump plan a security agreement for Ukraine? Z doesn't want peace. He would simply be the Putin you talk about. How do we know? He started the war by moving troops to the border, and by fighting his own people in Donetsk and the Donbas for nothing.

With the kind of leader Z is, looks like Putin is going to have to shut Ukraine down just to get peace.

You know what this war is about, just like anyone who looks. It's about the Western bankers trying to steal Russia and Siberia from the Russians, something they have been trying to do for over 100 years.

What the US needs to do is make a solid statement by removing the sanctions against Russia. Europe is failing as it is. If the US did that, Europe would simply wither on the vine.

You jokers should really forget Ukraine and concentrate on making trade deals with Russia.

Cool

Ukraine want a lasting peace. Peace can be reached at any moment, you just have to rennounce to having your own contry, let all the people be ruled from Moscow or wait for the next invasion.

This is perfectly rational, no joke. Ruzzia invaded Crimea and then started a permanent conflict in the Donbas - as they know that countries with conflicts cannot join NATO.

Zelensky wants the right peace, just as Ruzzia only speaks of peace always in terms that they know are not acceptable to Ukraine. Again, this is rational from the Kremlin, as their goal is to take all Ukraine and then pressure the democracies of the old Warsaw Pact until they rebuild their empire.

I am not making any of this up. It has happened: Ruzzia invaded and annexed Crimean, kept sending troops and funds to create a conflic in Dombas, it has happened again in the elections in Romania and a number of ciber=attacks in Europe, not to mention the financing of extreme right anti-EU groups.

The only thing that has changed is that the US, despite being a guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine with the Budapest memorandum. having promised to defend Ukraine and its sovereignty has decided that they will simply not do so. They also wish to weaken NATO as much as possible.

I think that the US has forgotten than last time that all the Soviet Republics were under Moscow's thumb, they spend 5 decades trying to topple it and having to spend billions (for real, not by Trump's "accounting") in keeping the US safe.

I hope you get paid in US, the Yuan is not doing that well. Nor the SP500, nor the NASDAQ... nor bitcoin.

Another silly attempt to rewrite history and confuse cause and effect. But everyone who can read, knows that Ukraine was under Russia's sphere of influence up to 2013, everyone lived fined and neither EU or US cared about it much. And it's the attempt to take Ukraine with cookies into NATO that is the root cause of this all. Now US figured that it's just not worth it to continue, and is now backing off. We all saw how well Ukraine performed with US aid, now think what will happen without it, we can already start to see it in Kursk. The only question left now is how many more people Z is willing to sacrifice, before admitting the inevitable, putting on a suit and starting to negotiate.



If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.

It's quite hilarious that one side is openly admitting to running a proxy war, and now stopping that armament, but it's the proxy itself that's trying to deny it

Rubio needs a narrative, since he has to basically stab Ukraine in the back, so some justification for breaking the Budapest agreement comes very handy.

Well, not as silly as pretending that the world started in 2020 as you have many times done in your posts. Now, that is a silly attempt.

But in the end all shows: you are back to the imperialism, the spheres of influence and the vassal nations. Let me then speak in a language you will understand then:

USSR is gone. It could not deal witht he costs and pressures of a Cold War and imploded. That "Ruzzian sphere of influence" is gone - let me put it plainly: Ruzzia lost it because is not a sufficiently productive and effective Country as to have any short of "sphere". It could be one of the greatest economies on Earth and instead has the GDP of a mid-size EU country. That should give you something to think about.

Ukraine saw the opportunity to get rid of Ruzzia - and anyone can understand why just with some basic history facts and Ruzzia is crying the loosers song about their influece while trying to rebuild and empire. Your basic argument is "it is not fair that the US wipes his ass with our nation". But if you believe so much in spheres of influence, then that is just the loosers cry and nobody is giving sh*t about it.

If it helps you, this is nothing unique in history. The Macedonians, the Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire and even the British Empire eventually loose preminence. It is time to recognise that Ruzzia cannot hold any "sphere" again, unless Trump (your asset I assume) gives it away.

You want to play empires and pretend to have rights over Ukraine? You have failed - unless Trump gets a big enough "Thank$$$$" from Putin and leaves Ukraine for the crowds and still, Europe will keep it up for a long while.


You must be confusing me with someone else. I'm the one who always talks about US using financial expansionism to expand it's sphere of influence with freedom cookies, which is just another way to exploit other nations where small initial investment typically leads to much bigger dividends. And how relatively stable the world has been up to 2014 before US freedom cookies arrived in Ukraine, and how third highest ranked US diplomat said Fuck the EU and orchestrated coup d'état at Maidan.

Ironically, Russian sphere of influence was on it's last leg in 2013, down to Ukraine, Kazakhstan and few other countries in central Asia. Had US not decided to pull Ukraine from Russia, Putin wouldn't be there now, Russian military would be where EU's military is now, and Russian wouldn't be so aligned with China. So if anything, this moronic move in Ukraine is the root cause of this all.

We are now seeing the results of the decision that the Ukrainian leadership made. At the end of this all people won't care whether Zelenskiy was incompetent, a puppet, or just a maniac. It's the end results that will matter regardless how much you want to white wash it.

The end result has already been decided at the very top, and announced publicly. But Ukrainians were so brainwashed with this idea of defeating Russia, that even it's leadership began to believe it. And now they just refuse to accept the reality.



Ukraine can keep on fighting without US intelligence or aid, after we give 50% of resources to US, EU's help will surely be enough, let's just keep throwing more souls at it, we're going to totally defeat Russia militarily any day now, what a wise leader Zeleskiy is  Roll Eyes

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^^^ Tulsi Gabbard has said that Russia has 6,000 nuclear ICBM's, but the US only has 5,000. Will Russia become the world's #1 nation now that the US is throwing their 'power' away?


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