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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 07, 2023, 01:47:47 PM
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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.
I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

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February 07, 2023, 02:01:48 PM
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I think even though Milan are playing quite badly in the domestic league, when they are in the UCL competition it will definitely be very different from what has been seen so far. And I think Spurs have to be wary of Milan in the first leg, because of course Milan have lost hope of competing with Napoli in the domestic league but they still have a chance in the UCL, so they will play it out in that.
I agree, even with Tottenham beating Man City and Ac Milan's bad form, I'm definitely betting on Ac milan in this one, it's very true that things are different from. a league to a trophy like the champions league, and I can definitely see Ac milan going through Tottenham in their battle, I know a lot of people will look at their forms and go with Tottenham so I'm going against their prediction here.

yeah you could be right. but if we look at Milan's last match against Inter Milan then I think we can see clearly how bad AC Milan was in that match. they don't get many chances. even Milan didn't even have a shot that was directed directly at Inter Milan's goal in that match. but I still see the possibility that Ac Milan will play well when they face Tottenham in the top 16 later. But I'm not sure which team will win the game yet.
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February 07, 2023, 02:47:05 PM
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I think even though Milan are playing quite badly in the domestic league, when they are in the UCL competition it will definitely be very different from what has been seen so far. And I think Spurs have to be wary of Milan in the first leg, because of course Milan have lost hope of competing with Napoli in the domestic league but they still have a chance in the UCL, so they will play it out in that.
I agree, even with Tottenham beating Man City and Ac Milan's bad form, I'm definitely betting on Ac milan in this one, it's very true that things are different from. a league to a trophy like the champions league, and I can definitely see Ac milan going through Tottenham in their battle, I know a lot of people will look at their forms and go with Tottenham so I'm going against their prediction here.

yeah you could be right. but if we look at Milan's last match against Inter Milan then I think we can see clearly how bad AC Milan was in that match. they don't get many chances. even Milan didn't even have a shot that was directed directly at Inter Milan's goal in that match. but I still see the possibility that Ac Milan will play well when they face Tottenham in the top 16 later. But I'm not sure which team will win the game yet.
if you look at the performance of these two teams in their respective leagues, it seems that there is a significant difference, AC MIlan which continues to decline in performance and that is inversely proportional to Tottenham, which is getting better every week, therefore I think the duel between these two teams is in the round of 16 of the Champions League. Of course, Tottenham are highly favored and their chances of being able to win the match and advance to the next round are quite large.

all of this is not without reason after seeing AC MIlan's performance in Serie A which appeared very bad after a long holiday making this team even worse off and with the last few weeks they have been in a slump of course it makes many people doubt they can get up as soon as possible especially on the Champion League stage.
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February 07, 2023, 03:28:14 PM
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Benfica's performance in the group-stage matches was excellent. There is no way to call this team weak. A very strong and stable team. Benfica is also dominating the Primeira Liga this season. Performing very well in every match and topping the table. So even though this is Club Brugge's home match, I consider this Benfica team as favorite.
There is no doubt that Benfica is the favorite against Brugge and Brugger is the team that can be considered the weakest of all and Benfica is predicted to win this first leg and for sure in the second leg there will be no obstacles for them if they can win in the first game later, and Benfica will be a team with a very large percentage of certainty of playing in the quarterfinals considering the opponents in the round of 16

You are right. The Club Brugge team can be considered weak. Because Brugge's performance in Belgium's pro league is not good. Club Brugge is probably fourth in the points table. They were lucky enough to qualify for the second round of the Champions League. I don't think they will win against Benfica. Yet in the Champions League, we often see weaker teams winning. So Benfica's players must be confident and perform very carefully.


AC Milan vs Tottenham match is difficult to predict. Both teams are of similar quality. And performance is erratic. Both have a number of star players in their squads. But my favorite in this match is Tottenham. In the last match, this team defeated the mighty Manchester City. They have the ability to win against Milan.
And you are right, sometimes they can lose to weak teams but Tottenham's victory over City increased the motivation of this team to also be able to beat Milan, moreover, Milan seemed to be facing obstacles so that they continued to lose in the league, recording 3 defeats in a row, however the first leg could have been a draw and the second leg would have decided it

The win against City was very convincing for Tottenham. As a result, Tottenham's players have become more confident. And they will now be confident during their performance against any big team. As a result, the performance of the players will improve more. However, I will bet on Tottenham in this match. I believe Tottenham players will not let me down.

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February 07, 2023, 03:35:43 PM
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@KipaCrypto I have said it multiple time’s and I’ll say it again that Klopp should go, his decision not to retain Mane was a foolish one and so far it’s clear to see that the team is not responding to his tactics hence the board should act now. Lastly I believe that Liverpool’s board could target Tuchel or Poch as these two are currently available, and I’m sure either one of them can revive Liverpool and help them dominate the champions league and premier league again.
Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.

Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.
Klopp should go? Really? That quickly? I mean this was the guy who took the team from being around Spurs level, to having a title, having one UCL, and having multiple second position finishes, and don't get me even started on FA cup.

So, I believe that this dude deserved one year of not playing as well as they should, I agree that this year they have sucked, and next year won't be that great neither because they will be placed badly this year, but that doesn't change the fact that he could maybe go for a title next year, or at least be top four next year. If he is still bad next year I would understand, but not even giving him a full year? Kick him out even before the season ends? That would be too harsh.

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February 07, 2023, 03:51:17 PM
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Im feeling worry about city. There are some problems that have been facing by the club.
Yes, you're right and all those problems will surely make them to loose so many things in this season if their coach fail  to resolve it on time. I guess,some players are already making up their mind to leave the Manchester city before the team will start experiencing what Liverpool team is experiencing right now which is not giving Liverpool fans joy. It will be difficult for Manchester city to win this title because, their points is already reducing which is a sign of poor performance.

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February 07, 2023, 04:17:26 PM
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Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.

Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.

Klopp cannot be said to be incompetent. He just has the bad luck of having some injured players at the moment.
I think they lack in their  midfield as they don’t dominate with the ball as good as they used to. They’ve still got great attackers but without a good midfield, how effective can a striker be?

My personal grudge with Klopp is that he had to let Mane go. I think they need some new players and that also would take some some time to get the new players get accustomed to the club.
I think the coming champions league match with Madrid is going to be a tough one for Liverpool. My personal thoughts on the match would be a Madrid win.
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February 07, 2023, 04:19:33 PM
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Im feeling worry about city. There are some problems that have been facing by the club.
Yes, you're right and all those problems will surely make them to loose so many things in this season if their coach fail  to resolve it on time. I guess,some players are already making up their mind to leave the Manchester city before the team will start experiencing what Liverpool team is experiencing right now which is not giving Liverpool fans joy. It will be difficult for Manchester city to win this title because, their points is already reducing which is a sign of poor performance.

Manchester City management spends a lot of money to strengthen their squad. Although the team is strong enough, winning the Premier League and Champions League titles is completely uncertain for Manchester City. They are failing to maintain consistent good performance. And Manchester City can't close the points gap with Arsenal.

Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.

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February 07, 2023, 04:45:20 PM
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Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.
I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

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February 07, 2023, 04:49:33 PM
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Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.
Life is always changing and players come and go including Mane. Liverpool likely are missing Mane now but they must come through it and aim at future with other players.
Everyone says “Moh Salah isn't good without Mane” or “Liverpool without Mane is just…” even though in my opinion the vital figure is Firmino. Without him Salah-Mane is also not necessarily successful.

It was a little evident at the start of this season, even though without Mane, Salah, whose games were inconsistent, and Nunez who was still new, Liverpool could still "occasionally" play well, because there was Firmino. 10 goal contributions (7 goals + 3 assists) from 13 matches is already good when the team's condition is in a slump.
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February 07, 2023, 04:57:58 PM
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Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.
I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.


There is an issue or tradition about a curse for Liverpool, about a coach who has been in charge for a few seasons and then makes the team's good performance disappear. This case happened or was experienced by Klopp at this time who was right about the issues and or traditions regarding the curse in question, whether it was true or not but I think I quite admit it too.

Because losing one player is basically not a big problem, because as a big team, Liverpool certainly has other players who can keep the team performing well. So yes, Liverpool's chances in the Champions League this time are really very worrying and I'm not sure Liverpool can keep up with Real Madrid.

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February 07, 2023, 04:58:49 PM
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it is also because the current squad which is expected to have chemistry like the trio that Liverpool once had will be formed again with new players. and that turned out to be difficult after Mane left Liverpool. it turns out that the impact of Mane's departure was very large. maybe Klopp thinks having Salah is enough. but the truth is he should regret it.
Liverpool is struggling in the Premier League, and facing Madrid in the Champions League is of course a tough game. Liverpool has lacked this season. and it looks sharp compared to last season.
Liverpool were not in good condition when they faced Real Madrid in the Champions League, even though Real Madrid's results were also unsatisfactory in La Liga a few previous matches, the Liverpool trio at this time had not developed at all and even had difficulty scoring goals in the Premier League. The quality of Liverpool's play this season is quite different when Mane was still at Liverpool, if you pay attention to last season the number of goals scored by Muhammad Salah is indeed extraordinary, but now Salah's sharpness in scoring goals has disappeared even from 10 matches he was only able to score 4 goals.

While Darwin Nunez and Gakpo are unreliable by Jurgen Klopp, because they don't have much experience playing in the Champions League and even in the Premier League they haven't adapted well in the main squad. I think Liverpool will struggle to face Real Madrid in the last 16, even though the first leg will be at Anfield.

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I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

Mane is not the only player who left the team, but this is not an indicator, for example, Lewandowski also left Bayern, but this was not such a tangible loss for them. One player cannot have such an impact on the team. With Liverpool it is not clear what is happening, it seems that they fell asleep and cannot wake up. Klopp has done a lot for the team, but now we see that he cannot fix the crisis that has been going on for a long time. It's not just the renewal of players that matters to teams, sometimes a new coach brings new energy, as it did with Everton.

A difficult situation, because they understand that a manager like Klopp is not easy to find, but now it is not clear whether he can fix the situation in the team. And it’s not clear what is needed for this, perhaps it is necessary to update the squad with young players.

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February 07, 2023, 06:06:47 PM
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I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.
This time liverpool is not performing as well as usual. The bad performance in EPL will be greatly affecting the performance of liverpool in UCL. I can take the result from two matches against brighton and wolves gave a significant impact to the liverpool.

Nunez and gakpo have become failed transfers by liverpool. Im glad to see that aurelien tchouameni was waiting for madrid rather than decided move to the liverpool.

Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.

Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.
Until the likes of injured Virgil van Dijk whose replacement Gomez at the Liverpool defense hasn't live up to expectations returns to the team and strength their defense else the team will continue to concede goals likewise the return of the injured trio Diogo Jota, Firmino and Luis Diaz will strengthen their attack because the newly signed Gakpo and Nunez had not been very consistent in scoring in goals, in fact Gakpo has been the shadow of former self after signing him from PSV Eindhoven, some of those players return date is fixed at mid February however will they be fit to play UCL matches? time will tell.

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February 07, 2023, 07:21:19 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

Indeed, there has been much speculation about Liverpool's performance dropping since being abandoned by Sadio Mane who went to Bayern Munich in the 2022/2023 summer transfer market. But that shouldn't be a concrete reason for Liverpool about their performance this season.

Maybe they are just too fixated on the same pattern of play and don't want to try new things because as we know every team in every different season there will definitely be a team that starts to show good performance and it looks like Liverpool is too weak to be able to develop so far and if Kloop fails especially to bring Liverpool to the next round of the UCL, surely his fate will be on the brink of being sacked by Liverpool.

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February 07, 2023, 07:46:03 PM
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Personally I support Klopp to stay in Liverpool at least one more season. If he can not improve the club performance in the next season, he should leave.
I can consider it a very wise decision because without success I don't think a trainer is worth keeping for a longer period of time. Klopp has worked for Liverpool since 2015, he spent several seasons helping Liverpool win several titles including the Premier League title. Klopp has succeeded in making Liverpool consistent and competing for the title with Manchester City and other teams, but this season Liverpool's performance has been very different, raising big questions.

I don't really know where he went wrong, after all he has got some new players but his performance is not to be expected. There are 18 match left in the season to improve his team's form and if it does fail to make the top 4 then I think it's good to expect him out of Liverpool at the end of the season.

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February 07, 2023, 07:53:03 PM
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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.
I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.
Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.

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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.
I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

I suppose by now nobody really understands what is going on anymore. There should be a much more universally applicable rule. National associations have their rules, then there is UEFA and then there is also FIFA and some other international court involved and so on and so forth. What did they find now that they couldn't prove last time when they turned the judgment over? It is permanently this back and forth with all these threats and no action being taken. I was shocked when I saw how rigorously Juventus Turin was treated by the Serie A committee. They have really taken hard action. Within a blink of an eye they took away any chance for the championship and also made it close to impossible for Juventus Turin to qualify for the international competitions.

There is so much prestige in the Champions League and so many strong actors and a strong lobby that I highly doubt that Manchester City will be disqualified. Think about it, all those other clubs that are frequently crossing the lines financially won't be interested in Manchester City being turned into a precedent. If that happens once, they all have to fear the same or similar judgment. I think that there is a strong lobby trying to bend the facts in favor of Manchester City.

Even though I do of course like strong soccer teams like Manchester City, I also think that sport should remain at least to a certain degree about passion and quality and not about money and financial shenanigans only.

If Manchester City gets banned I think this year is the last chance for Guardiola to win it! Wink

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February 07, 2023, 09:46:24 PM
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I blame Klopp for not being able to know how important Mane is to his team. Even when he is the coach. He should know the individual ability of the players in his team.
Liverpool problems just started as Mane departed the club and I can also say that it wasn't a coincidence. Assuming Mane is still in Liverpool, the club wouldn't have been suffering what they are suffering now
it is also because the current squad which is expected to have chemistry like the trio that Liverpool once had will be formed again with new players. and that turned out to be difficult after Mane left Liverpool. it turns out that the impact of Mane's departure was very large. maybe Klopp thinks having Salah is enough. but the truth is he should regret it.
Liverpool is struggling in the Premier League, and facing Madrid in the Champions League is of course a tough game. Liverpool has lacked this season. and it looks sharp compared to last season.
There is no doubt about this Sadio Mané departure is having the biggest negative impact on them, and they are paying for this all because in last season they were doing amazing job and have enough depth in their team which is currently at lowest level and their new signings are also not working as they were expected specially Nunez which was bought as Sadio Mané replacement no near his quality and performance with big waste of money as well because if they keep Sadio Mané and increase his salary surely this will be better and with this having better results in both leagues were also possible.

But now as they have done this mistake and paying for this all I have feeling Klopp still deserve chance for giving his best with this team because he has long time here, and he understands better chemistry of the conditions and players he can handle this all but if they have done mistake like Chelsea then surely this can go like them as well of big mess up and nothing positive.

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February 07, 2023, 09:54:53 PM
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Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.
In last five games day by day they are going down from bad to worse with their defense is surely completely not working, and they are conceding great number of goals which is the biggest concern for the Pioli 14 goals in five games is surely the worst situation for the AC Milan against Tottenham which is doing better at English Premier League and their attack is also much better than AC Milan which will create problems for them as well but here which strategy will work for the Milan to handle against Tottenham it's a biggest question right now and have no replies from management or players they are mentally down and their performance is also on lowest level look like they are going to be had changes if they want better results otherwise this is going to be worst end for them after having title in last season.

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