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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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December 17, 2022, 02:17:33 PM
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Liverpool are the favorites to beat Real Madrid, according to bookmakers. I see that differently. Last year in the final, Real Madrid actually won without any problems and if you look at the players that both teams have, then maybe Real Madrid has a better selection at the moment? The match PSG - Bayern Munich is not 50-50. the bookmakers think Bayern Munich is a lot better and has a better chance of going through to the next round. It is remarkable.

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I don't see that because regardless of anything even though in terms of conditions last season Liverpool were very attacking but still during the last few matches, especially for their 2 Champions finals, Liverpool were always in a losing position so in this case I don't see them as favorites too with its current performance it's like chicks that have lost their mother because they are always confused when attacking which always fail because they are still constrained in terms of goal productivity.
Liverpool are in a fairly good position in the Champions League. Everyone in the team plays with a lot of responsibility, Mohamed Salah is the best hope of the Liverpool team at the moment. His great performances are driving Liverpool forward.

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December 17, 2022, 02:28:54 PM
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Yes, Fabrizio Romano has also confirmed this, indeed the media now always reports what Ronaldo will do, even though it is only training at Real Madrid's headquarters but everyone has assumed many things, including if later Real Madrid will sign him, but it seems that it will not This might happen because Real Madrid already has good players and Ronaldo is on the bench if he really returns to Real Madrid.

It is true that there is no end to talking about these two GOATs. Messi and Ronaldo have had such a big impact in the history of football and the two of them have managed to break new records every season, but now indeed Messi is superior to Ronaldo in terms of hunting for goals or individual titles. With an age that is 2 years older than Messi, Ronaldo seems unlikely to be able to keep up with Messi in regular competition or the Champions League.
Seems misunderstanding about Fabrizio Romano update Cristiano Ronaldo in Real Madrid training center, haven't rumor and agreement deal with Real Madrid want to sign Ronaldo just have attention with training only after he has new team. Real Madrid have complicated player composition right now and Cristiano Ronaldo not at the top level, I think Carlo Ancelotti not try for signing Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has bigger ambition and seems not happy if can't get regular position at new team later, I don't with Real Madrid want speculative to sign Ronaldo due his over age and haven't consistency performance.
Even if it's true, CR7 will return to Real Madrid. I still believe CR7 can still achieve, he just needs confidence and support from the team and coach, he will rise.
This can be seen in the first season he returned to MU, he was able to become the top scorer at the club with 24 goals. This did not happen in the second season and the Portuguese national team because there is an enemy in the blanket like Bruno Fernandes. This is just my opinion.
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December 17, 2022, 02:37:35 PM
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It won't make sense for a team like Real Madrid to bring in Ronaldo at this time, it will result to nothing. Ronaldo is a good player but the things he can easily do in some years back he finds it difficult to do them now. Ronaldo has made name and he still remains a football legend,  but right now I think he is not the best Real Madrid needs.
The club president will never be in approval of such
They have promising young players who are eager to represent the club
Ronaldo to Real Madrid will never happen again
Real Madrid story with Ronaldo has ended, there is no continuation between the two. Real Madrid already has a solid squad, it's impossible for them to want to bring in Ronaldo, especially at his old age. Now Real Madrid is making improvements in its squad to replace senior players such as Benzema, Modric and Toni Kroos. Real Madrid, who are struggling in the Champions League, need a younger player to replace the injured Benzema, Ronaldo is not in their plans.

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December 17, 2022, 03:02:39 PM
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In all the years that Real Madrid have won the title, they have not been the strong favorites to win the title in my opinion. And especially not last year, when PSG and Manchester City were the favourites. A check with the bookmakers shows that Manchester City is the absolute favorite for the title, but that also has to do with the draw. If PSG wins against Bayern Munich, the ratios will come back to about 1 line in terms of odds. Man City will have an easy game against RB Leipzig.

Are you sure about this? I have no data but it seems to me that in those years when Real Madrid won the Champions League three times in a row and Ronaldo was in the prime, Real was the clear favorite to win. City are the favorites this year (as they have been in previous years) but let's hope that, as always, there's a team of character to send them home. As for PSG, Bayern should beat them.

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December 17, 2022, 05:58:22 PM
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The club president will never be in approval of such
They have promising young players who are eager to represent the club
Ronaldo to Real Madrid will never happen again
It's better if you are reading the news again and real madrid just let ronaldo to did private training on its training center. WTF was wrong with you? Perez already confirmed ronaldo would not be going to the real madrid as perez already rejected ronaldo's proposal but giving a special permission for its former of player to train on its training center was good enough. Ronaldo has ever given some trophies to the real madrid and is that something wrong with you?
I advice you to read the news again before try to commenting about that.
There are a lot of people who "hoped" for such thing, and there were a lot of people who didn't want such thing, so as you might imagine in an online discussion not all facts are checked and just people say their own ideas, with their own opinions of the subject instead of talking about facts.

Ronaldo will find a club, that part is for sure but I do not know which club, if he wants to keep playing then there is no way he would stay away. Just the idea of Al-Nassr and 500 million euro is good enough proof that even if it is not a big club, it could be biggest pay day any player has ever seen. I still think he should accept it, way too much money to reject.
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December 17, 2022, 06:07:32 PM
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A player like Ronaldo still belongs in the CL with his level, right? It's not as good as it used to be, but it's still good enough for certain teams in the CL. I don't think Real Madrid will want him back either. If he starts playing football in Qatar, he can play in the Asian CL. Also a nice level, but you don't have to see full stadiums there. I don't think Ronaldo is going there yet? Could he also consider going to a club with a slightly lesser status such as Chelsea to still play CL?

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December 17, 2022, 06:29:58 PM
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Ronaldo will find a club, that part is for sure but I do not know which club, if he wants to keep playing then there is no way he would stay away. Just the idea of Al-Nassr and 500 million euro is good enough proof that even if it is not a big club, it could be biggest pay day any player has ever seen. I still think he should accept it, way too much money to reject.
The Al-Nassr deal is still on the table, I also still think he should accept it, but Ronaldo still wants a prestigious event CL, is not easy to persuade. In his old age, he rarely suffers serious injuries because of his discipline in maintaining his body. He can be a good role model certainly for the Al-Nassr squad, his experience will be very useful for this saudi team.

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December 17, 2022, 06:36:41 PM
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Seems misunderstanding about Fabrizio Romano update Cristiano Ronaldo in Real Madrid training center, haven't rumor and agreement deal with Real Madrid want to sign Ronaldo just have attention with training only after he has new team. Real Madrid have complicated player composition right now and Cristiano Ronaldo not at the top level, I think Carlo Ancelotti not try for signing Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has bigger ambition and seems not happy if can't get regular position at new team later, I don't with Real Madrid want speculative to sign Ronaldo due his over age and haven't consistency performance.
Right now, things looking not good for him in UEFA because most chances he will be not able to have any suitable offer from here and his next stay could be in MLS but still we have to wait for his engagements and other activities here in this region because every thing in possible with any club can go for temporary transfer as well with we still left good time into end of this season and many big teams are facing issues with injuries and other things specially Real Madrid is also having not good situation with Karim Benzema injury because with this they are facing trouble even they also have few top quality players those can change things for them but still he is the quality player and have few good seasons in his career which can bring good changes in any team but as we were having rumours about Chelsea but now suddenly he is training at the Real Madrid even just training but still interesting.

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December 17, 2022, 07:20:50 PM
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Does anyone actually realize how slim the chances were for Real Madrid to become champions last season? Everything is always easy to nuance in retrospect, but in the games against Manchester City and PSG they already seemed to have no chance of progressing to the next round. And they also won against Chelsea in London through a spectacle by Benzema. You rarely see such comebacks. Liverpool's path was considerably easier last season. And now they are playing against each other again. I think Liverpool will definitely win revenge on last year's final, but Liverpool are not in good form at the moment.

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December 17, 2022, 08:25:38 PM
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But for Ronaldo who is still ambitious to play, then maybe this will be something different later.

the reality is that cristiano ronaldo has not been performing well on the field in recent months, i would say that since the new manchester united coach came in he is no longer the same cristiano ronaldo, his performance has dropped a lot, his presence on the field is almost non-existent you can see how in the past, his way of playing is more similar to how an ordinary player plays, in the past cristiano ronaldo when he caught the ball he most of the time managed to lose the opponent and shot for the goal that went into the goal, today cristiano ronaldo when he takes the ball he makes a pass to his teammate who wastes opportunities, that is cristiano ronaldo is playing differently and this is making him equal to ordinary players

In that sense, which team will hire a player who doesn't score goals? all teams want to have a better striker, no team wants to have a striker who doesn't score goals, real madrid already has benzema, what cristiano ronaldo should do in my opinion would be to retire and take care of his family and business because he will hardly get any good team, he will have only two options:

1 - retire

2 - go to Qatar and Saudi Arabia to play and be forgotten

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December 17, 2022, 08:33:43 PM
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Liverpool's odd to reach the quarter finals is 1.60 while Real Madrid's is 2.20 now. But I think this is no more than a trap by bookmakers. Because there isn't anything clear about this matchup. Both of these teams have had a great run in the group stage. Liverpool surprised people by their performance here despite their poor effort in the English Premier League. However we shouldn't forget about another fact that Real Madrid are the last champions in the Champions League. They made it to the title even when they weren't like the biggest favourite or so.

They are still like a secret favourite team for this title now. Liverpool will need to play extra carefully if they really want to eliminate them. We all know what Real Madrid did to the biggest title contenders in the previous season. They are even stronger now with some additions to the team. Benzema is also back after having an injury.

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DAZN will continue to broadcast Champions League matches until 2027. SKY has no chance. There will be a special offer and maybe €5 cheaper per month. DAZN will show 186 of 203 possible matches. All matches on Wednesdays and almost all matches on Tuesdays will be shown. Amazon will also broadcast a few games, so exactly 17 games per season.   

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December 18, 2022, 11:13:34 AM
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Does anyone actually realize how slim the chances were for Real Madrid to become champions last season? Everything is always easy to nuance in retrospect, but in the games against Manchester City and PSG they already seemed to have no chance of progressing to the next round. And they also won against Chelsea in London through a spectacle by Benzema. You rarely see such comebacks. Liverpool's path was considerably easier last season. And now they are playing against each other again. I think Liverpool will definitely win revenge on last year's final, but Liverpool are not in good form at the moment.
Of course, there weren't too many who favored Real Madrid to win last season, but they can show that they deserve to be champions. And most of the matches, they beat their opponents by making amazing comebacks. Liverpool will definitely hold a grudge against Real Madrid, because Real Madrid has stopped their steps in the Champions League several times. The problem is now that Liverpool are experiencing a decline in performance which will make it more difficult for them in this match.

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December 18, 2022, 11:36:15 AM
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the reality is that cristiano ronaldo has not been performing well on the field in recent months, i would say that since the new manchester united coach came in he is no longer the same cristiano ronaldo, his performance has dropped a lot, his presence on the field is almost non-existent you can see how in the past, his way of playing is more similar to how an ordinary player plays, in the past cristiano ronaldo when he caught the ball he most of the time managed to lose the opponent and shot for the goal that went into the goal, today cristiano ronaldo when he takes the ball he makes a pass to his teammate who wastes opportunities, that is cristiano ronaldo is playing differently and this is making him equal to ordinary players

This is what makes Ronaldo such a great player, he's adjusting to fit his new age and lost of speed as he has gone pass his amazing days but can still contribute greatly to the game if given the chance. The issue was that his former manager didn't play with old players as he's a manager that love playing with players with speed and strength (younger players). Ronaldo needs a coach that understand how to play experience and old players with younger ones. Coaches like Sir Alex Ferguson and the next person close to him is Mourinho.

Ronaldo still have some fight left in him, managers should know that and give him a chance to show us those good football before we missed all that due to his retirement. The Young players aren't doing much to fill this goats shoes yet. They still need sometime to level up, any club that get Ronaldo's will benefit from his influence both on and off the pitch. It's a shame he's been treated this way.


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December 18, 2022, 11:47:01 AM
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Ronaldo still have some fight left in him, managers should know that and give him a chance to show us those good football before we missed all that due to his retirement. The Young players aren't doing much to fill this goats shoes yet. They still need sometime to level up, any club that get Ronaldo's will benefit from his influence both on and off the pitch. It's a shame he's been treated this way.
There are still many great coaches who want to work with Ronaldo in a team, but maybe not Ten Hag. Ancelotti, Stefano Pioli, Luciano Spalletti and several other coaches seem to be able to handle young and old players well. Ronaldo is still good enough to be expected to have great form, but he will no longer be as stable as expected.

On the other hand, Ronaldo must also realize that he is no longer young and he is almost at the end of his career so he needs to understand the coach's wishes. So I think it's good to hope Ronaldo is still able to play at a high level for a few more seasons, but if he wants to leave Europe then of course that is another story.
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December 18, 2022, 11:59:18 AM
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Does anyone actually realize how slim the chances were for Real Madrid to become champions last season? Everything is always easy to nuance in retrospect, but in the games against Manchester City and PSG they already seemed to have no chance of progressing to the next round. And they also won against Chelsea in London through a spectacle by Benzema. You rarely see such comebacks. Liverpool's path was considerably easier last season. And now they are playing against each other again. I think Liverpool will definitely win revenge on last year's final, but Liverpool are not in good form at the moment.

Even now, when the main favorite (City) got a clearly weak opponent in the 1/8 finals, their chances are estimated at less than 50%. It is logical that the chances of Real last season seemed slim. If you watch an event after it happened, it always seems that it was unlikely. But in fact, someone always has to win.
It is very good that Liverpool this season immediately gets a strong opponent, but it is a pity that this comes at the expense of Real Madrid, which last season had the most difficult tournament path of all teams.

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December 18, 2022, 12:29:45 PM
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the reality is that cristiano ronaldo has not been performing well on the field in recent months, i would say that since the new manchester united coach came in he is no longer the same cristiano ronaldo, his performance has dropped a lot, his presence on the field is almost non-existent you can see how in the past, his way of playing is more similar to how an ordinary player plays, in the past cristiano ronaldo when he caught the ball he most of the time managed to lose the opponent and shot for the goal that went into the goal, today cristiano ronaldo when he takes the ball he makes a pass to his teammate who wastes opportunities, that is cristiano ronaldo is playing differently and this is making him equal to ordinary players

This is what makes Ronaldo such a great player, he's adjusting to fit his new age and lost of speed as he has gone pass his amazing days but can still contribute greatly to the game if given the chance. The issue was that his former manager didn't play with old players as he's a manager that love playing with players with speed and strength (younger players). Ronaldo needs a coach that understand how to play experience and old players with younger ones. Coaches like Sir Alex Ferguson and the next person close to him is Mourinho.

Ronaldo still have some fight left in him, managers should know that and give him a chance to show us those good football before we missed all that due to his retirement. The Young players aren't doing much to fill this goats shoes yet. They still need sometime to level up, any club that get Ronaldo's will benefit from his influence both on and off the pitch. It's a shame he's been treated this way.


Teams have struggled to accept Ronaldo not just because of his age,but because of his bossy character,since he is a big player already,most coaches feel that if they should sign him,he won't stick to their commands(pattern)secondly,they are looking at his age,since he is above 35 years of age,he isn't supposed to be running too much on the pitch,but he is this type that uses all his strength to play football.he's unlike Messi who can play as an 8(attacking midfielder) giving assists only without scoring and running too much on the field.
One thing I like about Ronaldo is despite his age,and the disbelief that these coaches have over him,he still believes he can still do well and still feel like having another great season with a club.
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December 18, 2022, 03:14:28 PM
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Does anyone actually realize how slim the chances were for Real Madrid to become champions last season? Everything is always easy to nuance in retrospect, but in the games against Manchester City and PSG they already seemed to have no chance of progressing to the next round. And they also won against Chelsea in London through a spectacle by Benzema. You rarely see such comebacks. Liverpool's path was considerably easier last season. And now they are playing against each other again. I think Liverpool will definitely win revenge on last year's final, but Liverpool are not in good form at the moment.

Even now, when the main favorite (City) got a clearly weak opponent in the 1/8 finals, their chances are estimated at less than 50%. It is logical that the chances of Real last season seemed slim. If you watch an event after it happened, it always seems that it was unlikely. But in fact, someone always has to win.
It is very good that Liverpool this season immediately gets a strong opponent, but it is a pity that this comes at the expense of Real Madrid, which last season had the most difficult tournament path of all teams.
It's interesting to talk about Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League, especially last season. Paris Saint-Germain, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool were the opponents they beat in that time. Many say that they were very lucky last season, but the question is whether it was luck that they beat such a big team? I admit that last season there was nothing special about Real Madrid's game, but there is one thing that they are superior to the others, namely mentality.

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December 18, 2022, 04:09:18 PM
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It's interesting to talk about Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League, especially last season. Paris Saint-Germain, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool were the opponents they beat in that time. Many say that they were very lucky last season, but the question is whether it was luck that they beat such a big team? I admit that last season there was nothing special about Real Madrid's game, but there is one thing that they are superior to the others, namely mentality.
Real Madrid have excellet journey last season in Champion League from knock out round until final, all bigger team success beating from PSG, Chelsea, Manchestee City and Liverpool at final round. I don't think lucky with Teal Madrid in Champion League winner last season because success made come back at several crucial match actually in second leg match.

Seems have the same journey with Real Madrid in this Champion League this season, at 16 round against with Liverpool amd I sure Madrid mentality already this season.

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December 18, 2022, 04:19:20 PM
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A player like Ronaldo still belongs in the CL with his level, right? It's not as good as it used to be, but it's still good enough for certain teams in the CL. I don't think Real Madrid will want him back either. If he starts playing football in Qatar, he can play in the Asian CL. Also a nice level, but you don't have to see full stadiums there. I don't think Ronaldo is going there yet? Could he also consider going to a club with a slightly lesser status such as Chelsea to still play CL?
No chance for him as even chelsea already rejected a rumour about his transfer to the club. This time ronaldo is still looking for a new club to play with. He has not yet got any offer from the club. It seems like that al nassr may become his new place rather than going to the big club but he will be rarely playing for the club. He has the biggest fan base in the world but remember that he can't deny if he was become even older than before. His time has come and he must accept if these days the football team rarely interested with the old player like him.

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