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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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December 23, 2022, 08:59:40 AM
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I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.

I think Mbappe has no desire to leave PSG. I don't think Mbappe is at PSG just for the money. Real Madrid were also ready to pay Mbappe huge wages. However, Mbappe rejected Madrid's offer. I think Mbappe doesn't want to leave France. At the same time PSG management has given Mbappe a lot of benefits. And Mbappe has been given the freedom to interfere in the club's internal affairs. Perhaps these are the reasons why Mbappe is repeatedly extending his contract with PSG.
I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.

Mbappe and the PSG owner with France president has secret goals of winning the Champions League and Ballon d'Or goes to psg in the person of Mbappe. The award has been in France but they don't win it. That is why PSG was ready to spend anything to keep Mbappe since he is also from France. That is the game plan and we shouldn't be surprised if it's playing out.

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December 23, 2022, 09:37:27 AM
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I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.

I think Mbappe has no desire to leave PSG. I don't think Mbappe is at PSG just for the money. Real Madrid were also ready to pay Mbappe huge wages. However, Mbappe rejected Madrid's offer. I think Mbappe doesn't want to leave France. At the same time PSG management has given Mbappe a lot of benefits. And Mbappe has been given the freedom to interfere in the club's internal affairs. Perhaps these are the reasons why Mbappe is repeatedly extending his contract with PSG.
I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.

Unfortunately, in a team made up of almost all prima donnas, conflicts are inevitable (Mbappe and Messi)
If the club doesn't treat him well, there are many ready to take him with their eyes closed, so PSG must carefully evaluate what to do
honestly it has too many "star" players and in my opinion it's money badly spent
stars usually want to excel and internal competition doesn't help to make a united dressing room

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December 23, 2022, 09:41:05 AM
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It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.
I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.
I agree to say Mbappe is a selfish player, but he is lucky enough because his selfishness goes hand in hand with his very good performances in the team as well as in the national team. If not then there will be a lot of negative narrative to him now. But there was still time for him to suppress his selfish attitude going forward, because it would be detrimental to himself if he didn't get rid of the selfish attitude he had displayed so far. I'm sure if he is more mature then he will be more able to bring out all the abilities he has.
Well, I don't agree with you on this one, a lot of times we have witnessed Mbappe standing out for the team is difficult games where no other player was able to bear the responsibility of the team but Mbappe stood up for his side just the way he did in the world cup final against Argentina. Maybe we should also tag him as selfish for scoring the three goals in the game.
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December 23, 2022, 09:42:33 AM
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I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.
I think Mbappe has no desire to leave PSG. I don't think Mbappe is at PSG just for the money. Real Madrid were also ready to pay Mbappe huge wages. However, Mbappe rejected Madrid's offer. I think Mbappe doesn't want to leave France. At the same time PSG management has given Mbappe a lot of benefits. And Mbappe has been given the freedom to interfere in the club's internal affairs. Perhaps these are the reasons why Mbappe is repeatedly extending his contract with PSG.
I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
Mbappe and the PSG owner with France president has secret goals of winning the Champions League and Ballon d'Or goes to psg in the person of Mbappe. The award has been in France but they don't win it. That is why PSG was ready to spend anything to keep Mbappe since he is also from France. That is the game plan and we shouldn't be surprised if it's playing out.

Winning the Ballon d'Or won't be easy for Mbappe. Haaland is performing better than Mbappe this season. He is consistently playing well and scoring goals. Mbappe is likely to win the Ballon d'Or if PSG can win the Champions League title. If PSG can't win the Champions League this season, they won't for the next few seasons.
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December 23, 2022, 10:46:00 AM
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I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
When there is an internal conflict like that and it is accompanied by the opening of the transfer market at the beginning of this year, then other teams will definitely target talented young players and one of them is Mbappe. So it might be a bit of a loss for PSG, as other teams are looking at a better chance of getting Mbappe this season.
But for now I myself have not seen how the conflict you mean is.

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December 23, 2022, 11:05:16 AM
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I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
When there is an internal conflict like that and it is accompanied by the opening of the transfer market at the beginning of this year, then other teams will definitely target talented young players and one of them is Mbappe. So it might be a bit of a loss for PSG, as other teams are looking at a better chance of getting Mbappe this season.
But for now I myself have not seen how the conflict you mean is.

Maybe he means the relationship between Mbappe and Messi that got worse after the World Cup final. All people watched Argentina players making fun of Mbappe after the match. Moreover, when they celebrated in Argentina, there was a player beside Messi holding a toy refers to Mbappe. I think the wrost thing that can happen to any club is a strained relationship between two stars, hence PSG have to find a solution if they want to win the title.

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December 23, 2022, 11:18:59 AM
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I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.
I think Mbappe has no desire to leave PSG. I don't think Mbappe is at PSG just for the money. Real Madrid were also ready to pay Mbappe huge wages. However, Mbappe rejected Madrid's offer. I think Mbappe doesn't want to leave France. At the same time PSG management has given Mbappe a lot of benefits. And Mbappe has been given the freedom to interfere in the club's internal affairs. Perhaps these are the reasons why Mbappe is repeatedly extending his contract with PSG.
I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
Mbappe and the PSG owner with France president has secret goals of winning the Champions League and Ballon d'Or goes to psg in the person of Mbappe. The award has been in France but they don't win it. That is why PSG was ready to spend anything to keep Mbappe since he is also from France. That is the game plan and we shouldn't be surprised if it's playing out.

Winning the Ballon d'Or won't be easy for Mbappe. Haaland is performing better than Mbappe this season. He is consistently playing well and scoring goals. Mbappe is likely to win the Ballon d'Or if PSG can win the Champions League title. If PSG can't win the Champions League this season, they won't for the next few seasons.
If Mbappé wins the Champions League, he will be the most qualified for the Ballon d'Or title, having won the Golden boat at the just concluded World Cup. Although, if PSG wins the CL, Messi will still be his strongest Contender for the title. Moving to Madrid will be the best for Mbappé, there he will have higher chances of winning the Champions League and winning the Ballon d'Or title unopposed.
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December 23, 2022, 01:40:45 PM
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I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
You are too exaggerated in dealing with the conditions of the world cup I think because in this case as a professional player I think when their internal conditions changed after this world cup I think they are too childish for a big player.
It would be funny if internal problems got bigger when the conditions at the club were definitely very different from the conditions at the national team and they definitely knew that.
They are paid very expensively by PSG but still put forward their ego due to internal problems. I think it will be very funny and they must be aware that they will not do that.

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December 23, 2022, 01:57:38 PM
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I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
When there is an internal conflict like that and it is accompanied by the opening of the transfer market at the beginning of this year, then other teams will definitely target talented young players and one of them is Mbappe. So it might be a bit of a loss for PSG, as other teams are looking at a better chance of getting Mbappe this season.
But for now I myself have not seen how the conflict you mean is.
Maybe what is meant is the conflict between Mbappe and Messi during the WC 2022 final last week. We know Mbappe is the pride of PSG and France, then he had to lose to Lionel messi who is also a PSG and Argentina player. Maybe many French people have hated Messi since the final, which France should have been able to bring home the world cup trophy. Well, whatever happens, hopefully there will be no problems that affect these two players to continue their partnership for PSG.

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December 23, 2022, 02:01:22 PM
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PSG already have good experience against Bayern... I think PSG are very strong right now, but Bayern have been doing well this season too... It is a difficult game to predict, but I think that Bayern will not be able to beat PSG this time... Especially, as you rightly said, Mbappe and Messi should show good team play after the personal confrontation at the World Cup...
For some reason, even though Paris Saint Germain has a capable squad, especially in attack. But I have the same thought that Bayern Munich will be the winner in their encounter. Apart from the special players at Paris Saint Germain, I feel that Bayern Munich has its own advantages that PSG don't have. I mean in teamwork, Bayern Munich looks more solid than the Ligue 1 giants.

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December 23, 2022, 02:05:24 PM
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For some reason, even though Paris Saint Germain has a capable squad, especially in attack. But I have the same thought that Bayern Munich will be the winner in their encounter. Apart from the special players at Paris Saint Germain, I feel that Bayern Munich has its own advantages that PSG don't have. I mean in teamwork, Bayern Munich looks more solid than the Ligue 1 giants.

For me the outcome of this match between Bayern and PSG is completely open, a real 50/50 game. I think that the team that is able to score the first goal will have a huge advantage obviously. Just looking at the squad one could get the impression that PSG is the favorite because they obviously have Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their team and two of those were the dominating players in this years world cup. It is also true though that those 3 attackers do almost nothing to support the defense of their team and that is a disadvantage that is not to be underestimated and Bayern also has a great team with great individual players.
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Maybe he means the relationship between Mbappe and Messi that got worse after the World Cup final. All people watched Argentina players making fun of Mbappe after the match. Moreover, when they celebrated in Argentina, there was a player beside Messi holding a toy refers to Mbappe. I think the wrost thing that can happen to any club is a strained relationship between two stars, hence PSG have to find a solution if they want to win the title.
Never easily believe in what you see in the media, you need lots of references so that the information is correct. I think Messi and Mbappe's relationship will still be fine, the media just takes advantage of little things and links them both to get more visibility. Really I really see it as something of an embarrassment, but of course they can speculate on anything.

Just wait for the league to start again, but I don't think Messi wants to compete with other players or even his team-mates anymore. He has been the best, and I don't think he would be so selfish about another individual achievement. It's up to people what to say about them, we'll see.

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December 23, 2022, 02:17:21 PM
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For some reason, even though Paris Saint Germain has a capable squad, especially in attack. But I have the same thought that Bayern Munich will be the winner in their encounter. Apart from the special players at Paris Saint Germain, I feel that Bayern Munich has its own advantages that PSG don't have. I mean in teamwork, Bayern Munich looks more solid than the Ligue 1 giants.

For me the outcome of this match between Bayern and PSG is completely open, a real 50/50 game. I think that the team that is able to score the first goal will have a huge advantage obviously. Just looking at the squad one could get the impression that PSG is the favorite because they obviously have Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their team and two of those were the dominating players in this years world cup. It is also true though that those 3 attackers do almost nothing to support the defense of their team and that is a disadvantage that is not to be underestimated and Bayern also has a great team with great individual players.
the Munich vs PSG match in the round of 16 seems to be a meeting too soon between the two. both are in good condition. but maybe PSG will be more favored.
Another interesting match is Liverpool vs Madrid. strong teams meeting earlier this will certainly make the competition in the last 16 of UCL more interesting.

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December 23, 2022, 02:19:05 PM
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I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.
When there is an internal conflict like that and it is accompanied by the opening of the transfer market at the beginning of this year, then other teams will definitely target talented young players and one of them is Mbappe. So it might be a bit of a loss for PSG, as other teams are looking at a better chance of getting Mbappe this season.
But for now I myself have not seen how the conflict you mean is.
Kylian Mbappe's relationship with the PSG club is expected to be good so far. I think Kylian Mbappe will never leave PSG now. However, Real Madrid have agreed to pay a high price for Kylian Mbappe. If Kylian Mbappe leaves PSG then I think PSG will suffer a bit due to the lack of Mbappe. But the great combination of Lionel Messi and Neymar we will see if Kylian Mbappe leaves PSG.

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December 23, 2022, 02:26:27 PM
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Maybe he means the relationship between Mbappe and Messi that got worse after the World Cup final. All people watched Argentina players making fun of Mbappe after the match. Moreover, when they celebrated in Argentina, there was a player beside Messi holding a toy refers to Mbappe. I think the wrost thing that can happen to any club is a strained relationship between two stars, hence PSG have to find a solution if they want to win the title.
Never easily believe in what you see in the media, you need lots of references so that the information is correct. I think Messi and Mbappe's relationship will still be fine, the media just takes advantage of little things and links them both to get more visibility. Really I really see it as something of an embarrassment, but of course they can speculate on anything.

Just wait for the league to start again, but I don't think Messi wants to compete with other players or even his team-mates anymore. He has been the best, and I don't think he would be so selfish about another individual achievement. It's up to people what to say about them, we'll see.
The media always brings up small things so I don't really believe if there is no more correct information about this news, it's true that my assumption is that Mbappe and Messi will be fine, they are teammates and of course they after the World Cup competition have the same goal in The Champions League is a matter of individual championships, it's over, they are friends again.

Before the end of the year PSG will be playing in their league we will see how they get back together in the team and this is just speculation of a few people about Mbappe and Messi.
They will be fine once the league starts I trust that and neither of them will be selfish.

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December 23, 2022, 02:33:41 PM
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Winning the Ballon d'Or won't be easy for Mbappe. Haaland is performing better than Mbappe this season. He is consistently playing well and scoring goals. Mbappe is likely to win the Ballon d'Or if PSG can win the Champions League title. If PSG can't win the Champions League this season, they won't for the next few seasons.
Both were playing in the different league and how can you sure if mbappe was performing worst compared with haaland? Mbape itself has become runner up in the world cup while haaland did nothing. It doesn't make sense to call that if mbappe has been performing worst compared with haaland.
I think that you can't determine which player that will be getting ballon d'or caused by the season is still very long to end. Haaland is still less than a season playing with city. I think that it's too early to call him as potential player to get ballon d'or. UCL is not yet continue. You shall wait until the end of season to know which player that will be worthy to get ballon d'or. PSG itself is far stronger compared with city.

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December 23, 2022, 02:35:29 PM
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For some reason, even though Paris Saint Germain has a capable squad, especially in attack. But I have the same thought that Bayern Munich will be the winner in their encounter. Apart from the special players at Paris Saint Germain, I feel that Bayern Munich has its own advantages that PSG don't have. I mean in teamwork, Bayern Munich looks more solid than the Ligue 1 giants.

For me the outcome of this match between Bayern and PSG is completely open, a real 50/50 game. I think that the team that is able to score the first goal will have a huge advantage obviously. Just looking at the squad one could get the impression that PSG is the favorite because they obviously have Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their team and two of those were the dominating players in this years world cup. It is also true though that those 3 attackers do almost nothing to support the defense of their team and that is a disadvantage that is not to be underestimated and Bayern also has a great team with great individual players.
the Munich vs PSG match in the round of 16 seems to be a meeting too soon between the two. both are in good condition. but maybe PSG will be more favored.
Another interesting match is Liverpool vs Madrid. strong teams meeting earlier this will certainly make the competition in the last 16 of UCL more interesting.
The match between Bayern Munich and PSG will be a great fight. But PSG will be expected to win, as most of the team's players have performed well in the World Cup. Among them are Kylian Mbappe, Lionel Messi and Neymar. We expect to see a great attack with the great combination of these three attacking players.

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December 23, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
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the Munich vs PSG match in the round of 16 seems to be a meeting too soon between the two. both are in good condition. but maybe PSG will be more favored.
Another interesting match is Liverpool vs Madrid. strong teams meeting earlier this will certainly make the competition in the last 16 of UCL more interesting.
The match between Bayern Munich and PSG will be a great fight. But PSG will be expected to win, as most of the team's players have performed well in the World Cup. Among them are Kylian Mbappe, Lionel Messi and Neymar. We expect to see a great attack with the great combination of these three attacking players.
Yes, they (Paris Saint Germain) had very good capital before this match actually took place. Yes it comes from their players who were very good at playing for their country in the World Cup. But the problem is these are different teams during the World Cup, I think there will be competition between the players who performed brilliantly which causes their cooperation to be very optimal. But I hope my worries are wrong and that they do their best with teamwork.

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December 23, 2022, 04:11:06 PM
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It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.
I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

Maybe you don't know much about football if you don't understand it? It's one thing to play against top clubs and quite another thing to play against clubs from Ligue 1 in conditions where you are guaranteed to get the championship. Even if you are personally motivated as much as possible, then the whole team is not at all eager to die on the field, for example, with a score of 2-0 in favor of PSG - why would they? If you don't understand this question well, look at the results (and performance) in friendly games. The fact is that at least half of the games in Ligue 1 for PSG are friendlies.

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December 23, 2022, 04:51:14 PM
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If Mbappé wins the Champions League, he will be the most qualified for the Ballon d'Or title, having won the Golden boat at the just concluded World Cup. Although, if PSG wins the CL, Messi will still be his strongest Contender for the title. Moving to Madrid will be the best for Mbappé, there he will have higher chances of winning the Champions League and winning the Ballon d'Or title unopposed.

Are you that sure, i don't think so. because after all, Haaland's performance is much better than Mbappe. after all, in the Qatar world cup the player who performed the best and always appeared stable was, Antonie Griezmann, you can review it from France's statistics during the Qatar world cup.

Mbappe earned a hat-trick in the final, two of his goals from the penalty spot. even then, thanks to the contribution of Marcus Thuram. and if PSG win the Champions League this season, the closest contender for the Balon D'Or will be Messi. Messi's performance this season has always been impressive, both in the Domestic League and the Champions League. however, if it turns out that the one who won the Champions League is Manchester City. I'm sure Haaland will be the winner of the Ballon D'Or later. after all, the PSG vs Bayern Munich game hasn't started yet. we don't even know which team will win the game. what is certain, both PSG and Bayern Munich both have the chance to qualify for the next phase.

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