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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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December 25, 2022, 02:45:09 PM
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Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.

This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.

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December 25, 2022, 02:54:04 PM
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Yes, many times Real Madrid is not really the favorite in this competition. in fact, last season it was the same. however, they were able to overcome pessimism even though we can say that Real Madrid was very lucky in the last season. in fact, Don Carlo was able to bring his troops to win this competition trophy. and at this time, Madrid again not favored. especially since many of us doubted Benzema's existence because he was prone to injury. however, they remain one of the strong challengers in winning the Champions League trophy this season. maybe, Don Carlo will recruit several players in January to strengthen and sharpen his squad.
I still remember with Real Madrid journey last season from 16 round until final stage never have favored to be the winner, from against with PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until Liverpool at final stage never have sportsbook favored for Madrid become the winner. Exactly there are all predicting was wrong and Real Madrid success become the Champion League winner after having mentality winning.

Not any changed with Real Madrid squad in this season except losing Casemiro moved to Manchester United, I think Real Madrid still make us surprised although not favorite team become the winner always have potential lead until final stage and make several come back on second leg match. Left one month later with 16 round begin and Real Madrid vs Liverpool become excited match for watching, could be revans for Liverpool after beating in last final match.

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December 25, 2022, 02:56:06 PM
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I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
I think that any player has their own achievements and you can't compare whether a was better than b caused by they have different story in the football. The only worthy competitor for mess was ronaldo but both were having their own way but the only problem is their fans were always battling between one to the each other to declare if their favourite player was better than other. You call him as a selfish football but others may have different perspective about him.
So, you were comparing him with your favourite player caused by you hate him?lol

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December 25, 2022, 03:38:21 PM
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Mbappe's dream to play in the same team as Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.

This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was at the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
One thing is having the talent, another thing is modeling the talent. When one can model his or her talent, he or she becomes a successful example to be copied, with or without modification; that's the true nature of Lionel Messi, and this is the reason Mbappe will never match him. Messi has a total assist of 349 which is more than half of the goals he scores, showing that while he scores, he is happy to see others do the same, same applies to Christiano Ronaldo, but it's a different case for mbappe. Take for instance this season, Messi has provided 5 assists to Mbappé and 3 assists to Neymar, Neymar has provided 3 assists to Mbappé and 2 assists to Messi, but Mbappé has provided 0 assists to Neymar and 0 assists to Messi, telling you that he competes with this guys🤣 lol. Mbappe is a great talent, he only needs to model it.

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December 25, 2022, 03:46:12 PM
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I think PSG is more likely to win the game against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich is no doubt a strong team that has great capable players capable of scoring goals.
But we should take a look at the form which PSG currently is on at the moment. They’ve got bright players who has probably gotten more experienced with the just concluded World Cup. PSG has a lot of stars on its squad. Stars that also has years of experience on their belt.

This will be a great game because Bayern has always been a great team even if lately it is not at the top while PSG is undoubtedly the strongest team at least looking at the team but has not yet won the champions, so I expect that after this world championship its players will come back loaded and with a desire to win, so we will witness a good game.
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Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.
This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.

There is no doubt that Mbappe is a great player. But Mbappe can't be compared with Messi yet. Mappe played very well, and was able to score a lot of goals. He won a World Cup at just 23 years old and was runner-up once. But Messi probably won 4 Ballon d'Or at the age of 23. But Mbappe is yet to win the Ballon d'Or. So I would say Mbappe needs more time to match Messi.

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December 25, 2022, 03:58:17 PM
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This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
Kylian Mbappe is very difficult to match what Messi has achieved, I admit that Kylian Mbappe is one of the most potential young players after the era of Messi and Ronaldo. Maybe Mbappe will be the best player after Messi don't play anymore, but Mbappe has to win the Champions League from now on.
The PSG squad is on the way to the Champions, the player material that PSG has can make it difficult for other clubs to win. Bayern Munich is a challenge for PSG, Mbappe is still a mainstay on PSG front line along with Neymar and Messi. The front line trio owned by PSG must appear like when they defended their country in the World Cup to bring PSG closer to the UCL trophy.

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December 25, 2022, 04:09:56 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.

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December 25, 2022, 04:36:12 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.
Mbappe has shown extraordinary skills during world cup.
and thers is no doubt about his skills however he will play in PSG and that is his identity
Messi and Ronaldo are amazing but they are growing  old too so young players are coming forth.

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December 25, 2022, 04:40:01 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.
Even though he went to the Premier League, it doesn't mean that Mbappe can be compared to Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Indeed he has very good abilities, but the question is can he continue to be in good consistency and last -+15 years as you say? That is a question that will be answered until Mbappe is playing at the same level after 15 years. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it would be very difficult to do.

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December 25, 2022, 04:42:29 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.

I agree with you that Ligue 1 is not as good as La Liga or EPL, but still PSG is an excellent club, which shows good results not only in domestic league but also in Champions League... I think that for Mbappe it is also a good start to his career and probably no one doubts that he will play for other titled clubs... Of course every player's dream is Real Madrid but for example Messi achieved a lot without playing for Real...

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December 25, 2022, 04:44:05 PM
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I think it would be really unfair to say that Mbappe will never match Messi's achievements so far. Because Mbappe is still a very young superstar now. He has long years ahead of him to achieve many titles. I don't mean the Ligue 1 titles of course. Because they are already too easy for PSG to win as they are the strongest team in the league by far. I mean the Champions League titles and Ballon d'Or prize. These are the most important achievements for a player to be a legend I think.

Messi has 4 Champions League titles and 7 Ballon d'Ors achieved so far. Mbappe has still none of them of course. But he can still achieve these if he makes his team choice right. If PSG don't win the Champions League title this season and Mbappe doesn't get a Ballon d'Or again then he would seriously think of leaving. His next team would be Real Madrid where he can be much more successful.

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December 25, 2022, 04:49:37 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.

I agree with you that Ligue 1 is not as good as La Liga or EPL, but still PSG is an excellent club, which shows good results not only in domestic league but also in Champions League... I think that for Mbappe it is also a good start to his career and probably no one doubts that he will play for other titled clubs... Of course every player's dream is Real Madrid but for example Messi achieved a lot without playing for Real...
Mbappe playing in ligue 1 being seeing as an advantage to his career. We should also see Messi playing along side Iniesta, Xavi and Neymar as an advantage to his career when he was in Barcelona because everyone I mentioned above and more were all playing for Messi.
PSG are always the Champions of French league but they also perform fine in European competitions also.

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December 25, 2022, 04:56:03 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.

I agree with you that Ligue 1 is not as good as La Liga or EPL, but still PSG is an excellent club, which shows good results not only in domestic league but also in Champions League... I think that for Mbappe it is also a good start to his career and probably no one doubts that he will play for other titled clubs... Of course every player's dream is Real Madrid but for example Messi achieved a lot without playing for Real...
Mbappe playing in ligue 1 being seeing as an advantage to his career. We should also see Messi playing along side Iniesta, Xavi and Neymar as an advantage to his career when he was in Barcelona because everyone I mentioned above and more were all playing for Messi.
PSG are always the Champions of French league but they also perform fine in European competitions also.
Mbappe had a great start to his career at PSG. He has achieved most of his career while playing for PSG. On the other hand, Lionel Messi has been able to achieve the highest achievements of his life playing in Barcelona. But I have not noticed any major achievements of Neymar so far. Messi-Neymar, Mbappe will now play together in Ligue 1. Hope they can perform well.

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December 25, 2022, 04:57:47 PM
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PSG are always the Champions of French league but they also perform fine in European competitions also.
Do they? They have been eliminated by Real Madrid is round of 16 I guess in the last season & that's too with 2-0 leading till the 61th minute (I can't remember exact timing LOL). Real Madrid knocked them out within 20 minutes LOL.
Eliminated by Man City in Semi final in 2020/21.
Played final in 2019/20 I guess but have lost.
I guess these aren't so good performance with having top 3 best players of the world.

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December 25, 2022, 06:08:03 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.

I agree with you that Ligue 1 is not as good as La Liga or EPL, but still PSG is an excellent club, which shows good results not only in domestic league but also in Champions League... I think that for Mbappe it is also a good start to his career and probably no one doubts that he will play for other titled clubs... Of course every player's dream is Real Madrid but for example Messi achieved a lot without playing for Real...
Mbappe playing in ligue 1 being seeing as an advantage to his career. We should also see Messi playing along side Iniesta, Xavi and Neymar as an advantage to his career when he was in Barcelona because everyone I mentioned above and more were all playing for Messi.
PSG are always the Champions of French league but they also perform fine in European competitions also.
I think in Mbappe's case it's about competing with Messi... It was clearly visible in the World Cup final... Yes, Messi is a great player, but his career is coming to an end and Mbappe has everything ahead of him... I think he will be as successful as Messi in the future... Iniesta, Xavi and Neymar played with Messi at Barcelona, but only Messi became a superstar... Now it's Mbappe's turn to become such a player...

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December 25, 2022, 06:39:03 PM
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I think it would be really unfair to say that Mbappe will never match Messi's achievements so far. Because Mbappe is still a very young superstar now. He has long years ahead of him to achieve many titles. I don't mean the Ligue 1 titles of course. Because they are already too easy for PSG to win as they are the strongest team in the league by far. I mean the Champions League titles and Ballon d'Or prize. These are the most important achievements for a player to be a legend I think.

Messi has 4 Champions League titles and 7 Ballon d'Ors achieved so far. Mbappe has still none of them of course. But he can still achieve these if he makes his team choice right. If PSG don't win the Champions League title this season and Mbappe doesn't get a Ballon d'Or again then he would seriously think of leaving. His next team would be Real Madrid where he can be much more successful.
I don't think anyone is saying that Kylian Mbappe will never match the achievements of Messi. But to achieve the success achieved by Messi will be very difficult for him to do. He is very capable of matching Messi's achievements or even exceeding what Messi has achieved to this day, he is still very young, but he must get out of his comfort zone as soon as possible to further hone the abilities he has, he must also increase his flying hours and go to more competitive league. La Liga or the Premier League would be a good place for him to add the flying hours he needs.

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December 25, 2022, 08:47:29 PM
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I think it would be really unfair to say that Mbappe will never match Messi's achievements so far. Because Mbappe is still a very young superstar now. He has long years ahead of him to achieve many titles. I don't mean the Ligue 1 titles of course. Because they are already too easy for PSG to win as they are the strongest team in the league by far. I mean the Champions League titles and Ballon d'Or prize. These are the most important achievements for a player to be a legend I think.

Messi has 4 Champions League titles and 7 Ballon d'Ors achieved so far. Mbappe has still none of them of course. But he can still achieve these if he makes his team choice right. If PSG don't win the Champions League title this season and Mbappe doesn't get a Ballon d'Or again then he would seriously think of leaving. His next team would be Real Madrid where he can be much more successful.
I don't think anyone is saying that Kylian Mbappe will never match the achievements of Messi. But to achieve the success achieved by Messi will be very difficult for him to do. He is very capable of matching Messi's achievements or even exceeding what Messi has achieved to this day, he is still very young, but he must get out of his comfort zone as soon as possible to further hone the abilities he has, he must also increase his flying hours and go to more competitive league. La Liga or the Premier League would be a good place for him to add the flying hours he needs.
I agreed about this all because every player is capable of doing anything which is possible in humans approach records are making and breaking for years and no one can stop this all Kylian Mbappé can achieve better than Messi records, but he needs to do things with better way and having change of attitude as well because recently we have too many complaints against him about things which can stop him from coming a legendary player.
As we all know he is very young and have enough things which Messi done near the end of his career mean his start is amazing and still nearly we have one decade with this wonder kid, so surely things are possible and also can achieve the target of GOAT which is dream of every player and now Messi also achieve after having this world cup.

Mbappé needs to fly to other leagues and having better playing time and improve his skills, all are surely going to bring many trophies and achievements for him in his bright future.
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December 25, 2022, 08:53:02 PM
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Leipzig are not a tough opponent for Manchester City. A relatively weak team is Leipzig. But there is no way to ignore this team. Smaller teams often win against bigger teams in the Champions League. Last season we saw Villarreal's great performances. And so if Manchester City want to qualify for the next round then they must play well. If they don't play well or make any tactical mistakes, they won't be able to win against Leipzig.
yes, that's the chance for the Manchester City club to qualify for the next round if they beat Leipzig, in contrast to other teams that face great teams and of course it takes more energy to come out victorious, for example PSG vs Bayern Munich and Real Madrid vs Liverpool are also very difficult matches and it's also worth watching, I'm sure Manchester City will play well against Leipzig later and qualify for the next round  Wink
Now it's fairly easy match for the Manchester City because RB Leipzig is going to sell their star player which is going to have big impact on their performance for the future because he was clearly top rank player with quality and skills were also having big impact on these team's recent success, but things are changing quickly, and RB Leipzig is now having not enough quality to compete with top team of English Premier League for the qualification of quarterfinal spot.

RB Leipzig as play against Real Madrid which is currently defending champions this was surprising for the UEFA fans because no one was expecting result like this but Champions League is competition of shocks and unpredictable results things happen like these usually.

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December 25, 2022, 08:54:29 PM
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This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was at the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.

What do you mean by if Mbappe had been promoted as Messi he would have won 3-4 Balon d'or? What kind of bs is that? When has Mbappe ever deserved the Balon d'or in his career and has not received it? Has he ever won the champions league? Has he ever won the European golden shoe? What about the uefa best player? Even the world cup France won in 2018, he was not the best player of his team (he won the best young player of the tournament).

Are you trying to use Mbappe to downplay Messi? Have you check what Messi did at 24? How many goals and assist he had at that age?
And this thing you guys do by only considering the highest goal scorers as candidates for balon d'or is funny. There's an award for been the highest goal scorer. Because you're the highest goal scorer doesn't make you the best player in the world. Football is way more than just that.

There has been no point in Mbappe's career yet that he was denied a balon d'or or where he was in a pole position to win the Balon d'or. He'll definitely win it in future at this rate but don't make it look like he has done more than Messi at age 24.

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