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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
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February 08, 2023, 09:40:11 PM
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Nunez is being considered as Sadio Mane's replacement. But the gameplay of these two players is completely different. So if Klopp doesn't come up with a different match strategy then I don't expect a better performance from Nunez and Liverpool. Liverpool will definitely need to change their match tactics if they want to get better performances from players like Nunez and Gakpo. Also I agree with you. It is difficult to perform well in the first season of the Premier League. It is hoped that they will adapt themselves well to the Liverpool squad by next season. These two players are very talented. They will not disappoint the Liverpool management.
The gap that Jurgen Kloop has to think about is the front line where he must be able to revive Mohamed Salah performance and also be able to polish the qualities that Nunez and Gakpo have. Liverpool lose great concentration if the opposing team is able to score goals early. It seems that the players continue to be overshadowed by guilt over the decline in their performance so far. Jurgen kloop has a pretty tough job this season to bring Liverpool in a better direction in the premier league.

apart from that, Jurgen Kloop also had to think early about the match they would have in the Champions League in the round of 16 because the opponent they were facing was the defending champion team or the king of the Champions League.
Several players brought in by Liverpool have not yet shown their best game. This season they look very messy, and if you look at the game they are very disorganized. I don't understand what's going on, because if you look at the squad they actually have good players, and also Jurgen Klopp is a coach who usually has a good strategy, but I haven't seen that from them this season.
If care is not taken, we might see Klopp making an exit from the club. One thing we fail to note is that, signing of new players is suppose to boost a team more than the main reason of filling up blank positions to suit a certain managers style of play.
Liverpool wants to build, but I wonder if Klopp would leave, what the state of the team would become in the hands of a new manager.

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February 08, 2023, 10:17:00 PM
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Nunez is being considered as Sadio Mane's replacement. But the gameplay of these two players is completely different. So if Klopp doesn't come up with a different match strategy then I don't expect a better performance from Nunez and Liverpool. Liverpool will definitely need to change their match tactics if they want to get better performances from players like Nunez and Gakpo. Also I agree with you. It is difficult to perform well in the first season of the Premier League. It is hoped that they will adapt themselves well to the Liverpool squad by next season. These two players are very talented. They will not disappoint the Liverpool management.
The gap that Jurgen Kloop has to think about is the front line where he must be able to revive Mohamed Salah performance and also be able to polish the qualities that Nunez and Gakpo have. Liverpool lose great concentration if the opposing team is able to score goals early. It seems that the players continue to be overshadowed by guilt over the decline in their performance so far. Jurgen kloop has a pretty tough job this season to bring Liverpool in a better direction in the premier league.

apart from that, Jurgen Kloop also had to think early about the match they would have in the Champions League in the round of 16 because the opponent they were facing was the defending champion team or the king of the Champions League.
Several players brought in by Liverpool have not yet shown their best game. This season they look very messy, and if you look at the game they are very disorganized. I don't understand what's going on, because if you look at the squad they actually have good players, and also Jurgen Klopp is a coach who usually has a good strategy, but I haven't seen that from them this season.
If care is not taken, we might see Klopp making an exit from the club. One thing we fail to note is that, signing of new players is suppose to boost a team more than the main reason of filling up blank positions to suit a certain managers style of play.
Liverpool wants to build, but I wonder if Klopp would leave, what the state of the team would become in the hands of a new manager.
Liverpool needs to change their coach, Klopp needs to go, he has achieved so much for the club fine but the truth is that he can't fix up the club anymore. It is a pity for their fans because this season hasn't produced any fruit from the club,with this their poor performance any club that plays them presently will defeat time. The newly signed players hasn't fit in with their new club,let's hope they can make a difference in the club's performance.
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February 08, 2023, 10:20:11 PM
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Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.

Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.
When Nunez and Gakpo arrived at Liverpool I had no doubts that they will immediately make an impact in the team but until now the team is still struggling to win games or even get a draw. Their last game ended in a 3 nil humiliating defeat to Wolves, I think the pressure on Klopp is increasing and drawing close, if the poor results keep coming then I doubt seeing Klopp continue as Liverpool coach until the end of the season

Liverpool were not in good condition when they faced Real Madrid in the Champions League, even though Real Madrid's results were also unsatisfactory in La Liga a few previous matches, the Liverpool trio at this time had not developed at all and even had difficulty scoring goals in the Premier League. The quality of Liverpool's play this season is quite different when Mane was still at Liverpool, if you pay attention to last season the number of goals scored by Muhammad Salah is indeed extraordinary, but now Salah's sharpness in scoring goals has disappeared even from 10 matches he was only able to score 4 goals.

While Darwin Nunez and Gakpo are unreliable by Jurgen Klopp, because they don't have much experience playing in the Champions League and even in the Premier League they haven't adapted well in the main squad. I think Liverpool will struggle to face Real Madrid in the last 16, even though the first leg will be at Anfield.
Real Madrid are in better shape than Liverpool, I can barely recognise this current Liverpool team this season. Real Madrid are also not so good, their la liga performance hasn’t been that great but I believe they will step up in the Champions league competition, I will be expecting a win from Real Madrid in that fixture.
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February 08, 2023, 10:32:45 PM
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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.
I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

I suppose by now nobody really understands what is going on anymore. There should be a much more universally applicable rule. National associations have their rules, then there is UEFA and then there is also FIFA and some other international court involved and so on and so forth. What did they find now that they couldn't prove last time when they turned the judgment over? It is permanently this back and forth with all these threats and no action being taken.
I see your point. They may agree on some policies on punishments but these are still organizations independent of each other. It seems the case stemmed from the same allegation back in 2018. Both organization launched their own investigation. UEFA wrapped up and handed out the fine and ban in 2020. Premier league just took a longer time. Their findings is probably more conclusive and airtight.

Ok I am not fully into the case and know the finest details, but when this stems from 2018 I ask myself what the heck happened over all those years when you take into account that one judgment was already revoked? That doesn't make a lot of sense. Not only for the club, but also not for the fans. When I were a fan of Manchester City and I read that they have been acquitted on all accounts, how does it make sense then that the same case could lead to an exclusion 5 years or so later again?

I am for fairness to its fullest and we need some sanctions or otherwise the normal soccer club won't exist anymore at some point. At the same time it should be applied to all clubs equally. Or maybe the punishment should work such that the rich clubs violating the rules must pay a fine to the poorer clubs. That way we also get one step closer to equality.

An exclusion from the Champions League would be a punch in the face for all of those clubs as that is what the investors are after. Winning the Champions League!
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February 08, 2023, 10:35:37 PM
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I will say real Madrid is setting a good cow back winning. Playing against Al haly is a good opportunity for them to restore their winning ways and I'm happy they did that. The winning will boost the players and the coach and give them more confidence in the next match. Real Madrid will father more winning potential before the champion league fixture against Liverpool. I think betting on real Madrid to win against Liverpool in the UCL will be a good risk to take

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February 08, 2023, 10:36:37 PM
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If care is not taken, we might see Klopp making an exit from the club. One thing we fail to note is that, signing of new players is suppose to boost a team more than the main reason of filling up blank positions to suit a certain managers style of play.
Liverpool wants to build, but I wonder if Klopp would leave, what the state of the team would become in the hands of a new manager.
This could have happened to Liverpool if the conditions and situations that occurred within the Liverpool team did not change for the better because after the arrival of new players and players who could fill certain vacant positions. The team certainly hopes that they can experience better results in certain seasons so it is only natural to want to see better developments when there have been improvements on the players' side.

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February 08, 2023, 11:15:37 PM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
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February 09, 2023, 12:04:24 AM
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If care is not taken, we might see Klopp making an exit from the club. One thing we fail to note is that, signing of new players is suppose to boost a team more than the main reason of filling up blank positions to suit a certain managers style of play.
Liverpool wants to build, but I wonder if Klopp would leave, what the state of the team would become in the hands of a new manager.
I am still optimistic Liverpool wouldn't have a problem in the champions league because only this event will bring the name rise in Europe. Klopp maybe not prioritize the premier league as the main purpose be a champion because the competition is very tight, seems like mission impossible to be on 1st stand, and maybe the target is only in the top 4. And i really sure, he still on liverpool until finish the contract.

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February 09, 2023, 12:12:49 AM
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Dortmund vs Chelsea is a good match. Chelsea have been performing badly I know but Dortmund has not been at their best this season. They are 3rd in the Bundesliga but they are not playing the football that they are capable of. It could be a interesting match up because Chelsea are looking for some success and when I have seen them play they have looked dangerous. I think they have been unlucky for most of their losses this season.

I am still optimistic Liverpool wouldn't have a problem in the champions league because only this event will bring the name rise in Europe. Klopp maybe not prioritize the premier league as the main purpose be a champion because the competition is very tight, seems like mission impossible to be on 1st stand, and maybe the target is only in the top 4. And i really sure, he still on liverpool until finish the contract.

They have been losing against bottom of the league teams in the Premier League and you think they can beat Real Madrid? I think they have most of their players for their 1st team. Real Madrid might have injury problems but they still have better players. Do not forget that Real Madrid have beat Liverpool many times recently when Liverpool were on top of the world but now they are playing the worst football for 10+ years. I think Klopp is finished and when he gets knocked out of the Champions League I think he gets fired.
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February 09, 2023, 12:21:08 AM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
Liverpool is in trouble since the beginning of the season along with Chelsea and both of them passed to the round of 16 while ironically Barcelona that is leading La Liga got kicked from Champions League!
Liverpool will face Real Madrid which is better even though the mild performance that they are showing these days, nevertheless, odds are backing the home side, Liverpool, in this leg Roll Eyes
For Chelsea, they will face Dortmund in an away game and the odds aren't that different.

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February 09, 2023, 12:32:40 AM
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Liverpool is in trouble since the beginning of the season along with Chelsea and both of them passed to the round of 16 while ironically Barcelona that is leading La Liga got kicked from Champions League!
Liverpool will face Real Madrid which is better even though the mild performance that they are showing these days, nevertheless, odds are backing the home side, Liverpool, in this leg Roll Eyes
For Chelsea, they will face Dortmund in an away game and the odds aren't that different.
A lot of people will make a lot of money if those odds stay the same. I do not understand how Liverpool can be the favorites for this match. They cannot win against the lowest teams in the Premier League and Real Madrid are a lot better then them. If Real Madrid was in the worst form I would still bet on them to win a champions league match because they always do. They have surprised everyone many times because of their consistency in the champions league. I think it is because the Spanish league has been declining for many years and their fans and players work harder to win the champions league because they see that as the ultimate prize.

I think Dortmund will win because of Chelsea struggling for form but I think it is a closer game. We have a good counter attack and good defense. If Chelsea can bypass our midfield I think they will do well but I do not think they have the long ranger passes that could bypass our midfield. They need someone like Lampard in his glory days who could switch the play in the moment.
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February 09, 2023, 02:14:07 AM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
Maybe Jurgen Klopp's chances will end this season, but depending on if he manages to lift the Liverpool players I think he will be kept by the club management. The minor results that were obtained by Liverpool really made the public very upset and indeed all of that was the responsibility of Jurgen Klopp as a coach. Moreover, this month they will play the playoffs against Real Madrid, of course he has a tough job if he doesn't want to leave Anfield early.

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February 09, 2023, 03:03:56 AM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
Maybe Jurgen Klopp's chances will end this season, but depending on if he manages to lift the Liverpool players I think he will be kept by the club management. The minor results that were obtained by Liverpool really made the public very upset and indeed all of that was the responsibility of Jurgen Klopp as a coach. Moreover, this month they will play the playoffs against Real Madrid, of course he has a tough job if he doesn't want to leave Anfield early.
The chance is very small because the current probability of failing is of course bigger.
Liverpool's condition is still very worrying now so it is very difficult for Klopp to survive, especially if the club's demands are not fulfilled by having to be in the Champions League zone next season.
Their only 2 options are to improve performance in the domestic league or indeed make the Champions League a benchmark for champions. These 2 options are obviously very difficult for them to do and Klopp is likely to leave.

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This is another important season for PSG to reach the CL title. They have build a wonderful trio on the front with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe but still they haven't been able to win this title. It was related to Pochettino's vision as well I presume and we will see what Galtier will change in this team for achieving it. Galtier is actually a far more inexperienced manager and some of us still have doubts about him. I also have that to be honest but I'm still trying not to be prejudiced.

Its not that easy to win the champions league title. Its really hard even to get to the semi final let alone win the title. They got too many superstars that dont play defence at all and this might be a huge problem for PSG in the champions league this season.
this season, I put PSG in the list of the top 3 teams that have the potential to win the UCL. what's interesting about PSG this time is not the trio of neymar, messi and mbappe but the PSG coach (galtier), he really makes PSG look convincing, after officially getting renato sanches, galtier said he still wants to improve the back line to be more ready to face the fight in the UCL.
I'm not still convinced that PSG will win the champions  league this season especially now that Mbape and Neymar are not in good terms.Football and good performance is all about the teamwork  and unity among the players in the team,the moment the team is not United,there is every tendency that they will not do well in the champions league next season.
Winning the champions league is unpredictable,  it is hard to predict the team to win, the more you look the less you can see . The champions league winner always come as surprise. PSG is doing well and trying their best to see that they win but it is not still a guarantee that winning the champions league will definitely go to them.

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February 09, 2023, 03:09:52 AM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
Klopp's era in liverpool gonna be end very soon. There are so many rumors about some names that potentially replaced him.

Liverpool has been warned about the bad results of liverpool under him this season.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-sack-leiva-29156542

I hope that liverpool will be sacking him and get a new name as a coach for liverpool. Klopp is not competent anymore to handle liverpool at this moment. It's all FSG's decision. It's not so bad to give him another chance again as long as he can make the team perform better until the end of season.

I thik that the result from UCL will become main consideration by FSG to keep him or let him leave from the club.


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February 09, 2023, 03:10:21 AM
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Nunez is being considered as Sadio Mane's replacement. But the gameplay of these two players is completely different. So if Klopp doesn't come up with a different match strategy then I don't expect a better performance from Nunez and Liverpool. Liverpool will definitely need to change their match tactics if they want to get better performances from players like Nunez and Gakpo. Also I agree with you. It is difficult to perform well in the first season of the Premier League. It is hoped that they will adapt themselves well to the Liverpool squad by next season. These two players are very talented. They will not disappoint the Liverpool management.
Whatever Liverpool is seeing is well deserved, they were paying Mane around $100k per week, the agents asked for an extension of his contract to around $400k per week but were adamant to pay the same wages, and clearly, Mane is playing for himself and his people, we can all deny how he is helping people back home, and as soon as they got a better deal of $350k at Bayern, he left for greener pastures. They should have at least made him equivalent to Salah's worth because Mane is responsible for the majority of his goal assists.
Putting pay asides, Nunes and Gakpo are good players but the fans shouldn't expect a miracle from a few games, it will take time, I also look forward to what Gakpo will do when he starts his first minutes in the Champions League, if he manages to win against Real Madrid, then they would have some hope and future for Liverpool.

Sadio Mane and Liverpool management were at loggerheads over wages. And in the end, Liverpool management expressed their reluctance to keep Mane in the team without increasing his wages. And after Sadio Mane left the team, they bought Nunez at a huge cost. And Nunez's wages are higher than Mane's. But he is not able to perform as well as Sadio Mane. The chemistry between the midfield and forwards was good when Sadio Mane was with the squad. But now the bonding between the players is not much better. However, Liverpool's management mistakes have led to their poor form this season.

Nunez and Gakpo's wages far outstrip their performance. Wages are high but they are not playing well. But maybe next season we will see better performance from them.

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February 09, 2023, 03:30:40 AM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
Maybe Jurgen Klopp's chances will end this season, but depending on if he manages to lift the Liverpool players I think he will be kept by the club management. The minor results that were obtained by Liverpool really made the public very upset and indeed all of that was the responsibility of Jurgen Klopp as a coach. Moreover, this month they will play the playoffs against Real Madrid, of course he has a tough job if he doesn't want to leave Anfield early.
The chance is very small because the current probability of failing is of course bigger.
Liverpool's condition is still very worrying now so it is very difficult for Klopp to survive, especially if the club's demands are not fulfilled by having to be in the Champions League zone next season.
Their only 2 options are to improve performance in the domestic league or indeed make the Champions League a benchmark for champions. These 2 options are obviously very difficult for them to do and Klopp is likely to leave.
There are many reasons why Liverpool have been so bad this season, and one of the most striking and felt is the departure of Sadio Mane and he is a phenomenal player for Liverpool. And his replacement Darwin Nunez, he is not the same type of player and is very far behind in terms of quality with Sadio Mane.
and for the match against Real Mandrid later, I doubt very much if you look at the current performance, even though Real Madrid's performance has also decreased, in terms of overall play Real Mandrid is much better than Liverpool.
and reportedly a series of minor results in the last few matches threatened Jurgen Klopp's position as coach. And chants of 'Klopp Out' began to be spread by fans on social media. And this will make Jurgen Klopp unable to sleep well, especially since the Premier League is classified as haunted and merciless, it is not impossible that a tragic fate will befall Klopp.

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February 09, 2023, 03:53:03 AM
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Maybe Jurgen Klopp's chances will end this season, but depending on if he manages to lift the Liverpool players I think he will be kept by the club management. The minor results that were obtained by Liverpool really made the public very upset and indeed all of that was the responsibility of Jurgen Klopp as a coach. Moreover, this month they will play the playoffs against Real Madrid, of course he has a tough job if he doesn't want to leave Anfield early.
After all successful seasons with Klopp, maybe Liverpool will give him one more season to prove his ability. One season ago, they came very closely to a great successful season and this season is a nightmare. Maybe he will not be able to fix this season but a few months in the summer and a summer transfer can help him to reorganize things in Liverpool.

With respect to Klopp from Liverpool, I believe that if he does not say goodbye by himself, they will give him one more season.
Yes, I know this season is the toughest season for Klopp to coach Liverpool, but so far he has also won many titles such as the EPL and UCL, so even though he may be sacked by Liverpool later, The Kopites will still respect him. Apart from that, if he is given the opportunity for one more season to ride Liverpool, it seems that this could be an opportunity that Klopp should be able to take advantage of, at least Liverpool do not finish below the top 4 if they want to secure their position as Liverpool coach.

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February 09, 2023, 05:07:33 AM
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Maybe Jurgen Klopp's chances will end this season, but depending on if he manages to lift the Liverpool players I think he will be kept by the club management. The minor results that were obtained by Liverpool really made the public very upset and indeed all of that was the responsibility of Jurgen Klopp as a coach. Moreover, this month they will play the playoffs against Real Madrid, of course he has a tough job if he doesn't want to leave Anfield early.
After all successful seasons with Klopp, maybe Liverpool will give him one more season to prove his ability. One season ago, they came very closely to a great successful season and this season is a nightmare. Maybe he will not be able to fix this season but a few months in the summer and a summer transfer can help him to reorganize things in Liverpool.

With respect to Klopp from Liverpool, I believe that if he does not say goodbye by himself, they will give him one more season.
Yes, I know this season is the toughest season for Klopp to coach Liverpool, but so far he has also won many titles such as the EPL and UCL, so even though he may be sacked by Liverpool later, The Kopites will still respect him. Apart from that, if he is given the opportunity for one more season to ride Liverpool, it seems that this could be an opportunity that Klopp should be able to take advantage of, at least Liverpool do not finish below the top 4 if they want to secure their position as Liverpool coach.
Klopp has made name in Liverpool history and they have to respect his name. He's having a worse season and sacking him is an insult to Klopp. I think Liverpool management will think for the position way to rescue the team next season. With the look of things Liverpool might not qualify to champions league next season. But they will bounce back under Klopp. The only mistake they made was to sell Mane, his absent is affecting the performance of Liverpool and they haven't been able to get his replacement.
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February 09, 2023, 05:11:29 AM
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I still can't comprehend the cause of the poor performances with Liverpool. The last game they got humiliated by wolves, the expression on Klopp's face alone tells how much he is suprised at the team's performance and poor results. Everything seems not to be working anymore for Klopp, could this be that the end of his Liverpool reign is near? Very soon the club management will lose their faith in him and make a harsh decision.
Maybe Jurgen Klopp's chances will end this season, but depending on if he manages to lift the Liverpool players I think he will be kept by the club management. The minor results that were obtained by Liverpool really made the public very upset and indeed all of that was the responsibility of Jurgen Klopp as a coach. Moreover, this month they will play the playoffs against Real Madrid, of course he has a tough job if he doesn't want to leave Anfield early.
I have to say Liverpool decline performance is not compeletely Klopp mistakes because during train for Liverpool he was never facing this situations before which is beyond out of his expectations but indeed although the management say his position still safe but Klopp have to overcomes this problem because if he still cannot bringing Liverpool to gets the winning results for upcoming matches probably the management will considering to sacked him

Liverpool as a host for first leg but apparently it's hard for them to beat Real Madrid although Real Madrid also had an issue especially on their forward lines but from team conditions Real Madrid far to ready than Liverpool but for second leg predicted some of players such as Diogo Jota, Virgil van Dijk and Luis Diaz will be available to play so there is a hope for Liverpool if these players return to play according to the predictions

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