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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 07, 2023, 09:56:05 PM
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Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.
I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.


There is an issue or tradition about a curse for Liverpool, about a coach who has been in charge for a few seasons and then makes the team's good performance disappear. This case happened or was experienced by Klopp at this time who was right about the issues and or traditions regarding the curse in question, whether it was true or not but I think I quite admit it too.

Because losing one player is basically not a big problem, because as a big team, Liverpool certainly has other players who can keep the team performing well. So yes, Liverpool's chances in the Champions League this time are really very worrying and I'm not sure Liverpool can keep up with Real Madrid.
Nobody expected this drastic depreciation from Liverpool team this season,they did very well last season and now they are messing the all thing up. I don't think that Liverpool will be able to play Real Madrid confidently in that match because Liverpool is so weak that smaller clubs do win them in their local league. Real Madrid might not be consistent recently, but I know that Ancelotti will work properly on his boys,since they are still a strong club.
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February 07, 2023, 09:57:52 PM
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Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.
In last five games day by day they are going down from bad to worse with their defense is surely completely not working, and they are conceding great number of goals which is the biggest concern for the Pioli 14 goals in five games is surely the worst situation for the AC Milan against Tottenham which is doing better at English Premier League and their attack is also much better than AC Milan which will create problems for them as well but here which strategy will work for the Milan to handle against Tottenham it's a biggest question right now and have no replies from management or players they are mentally down and their performance is also on lowest level look like they are going to be had changes if they want better results otherwise this is going to be worst end for them after having title in last season.
Milan's condition is quite difficult with their current weak defense.
Tottenham is clearly one of the favorites in their current condition and I think they are the ones who will qualify for the next phase in this round.
Milan will host the first leg, but with their current condition, even though they are playing at home, I am personally quite skeptical of them, especially if they still can't improve their performance in midfield and defense.

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February 07, 2023, 09:58:31 PM
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Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.
I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.
If someone wants to figure out problems at Liverpool then surely he needs to check all things related to this club as there is no doubt Mane having good impact on Liverpool performance in last few years, and he was key player for them with few injuries are also having big impact as Firmino and van Dijk both are also not available which is also having negative impact on their performance.

Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.

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February 07, 2023, 10:13:07 PM
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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.
I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.
Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.
The news about the Manchester city being looked into for financial breaches since 2029/2020 till date is something else. Not mere sanctions but an expulsion from the major leagues they play in now would be the justice meted.
After 9years I thought the issue of the financial breach was cleared, only for it to hunt them now. The issue is serious as the other big teams are in support for law and sanctions becoming effective.

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February 07, 2023, 10:31:27 PM
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There is so much prestige in the Champions League and so many strong actors and a strong lobby that I highly doubt that Manchester City will be disqualified. Think about it, all those other clubs that are frequently crossing the lines financially won't be interested in Manchester City being turned into a precedent. If that happens once, they all have to fear the same or similar judgment. I think that there is a strong lobby trying to bend the facts in favor of Manchester City.
I agree with you, at most it can be argued that Manchester City is being too aggressive while disregarding the rules, but it should be obvious that most clubs are doing more or less the same or they will be unable to compete with them at all, so it is not on the best interest of the biggest clubs around the world that such a big deal is made about those accusations as they know they could be next if this were to happen.



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February 07, 2023, 10:51:27 PM
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Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse  Grin
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.
I also think that Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League over Liverpool. Real Madrid has good chance to win the match and qualify for the quarter-finals even though they are both in bit of bad form recently. Liverpool have been appear substandard all season even if they did well in the Champions League group stages, but at least I can hope nothing changes from Liverpool regarding their form and they should be out of the Champions League in this round of 16.

Apart from Real Madrid being the champions last season, they are the most experienced team in this competition so the mentality can still be expected. Real Madrid's performance has always been good in the Champions League even though they could have lost and failed this season.

By the way, now, despite the fact that the bookmakers give equal chances to both Real and Liverpool, I'm sure they evaluate Real as a clear favorite. I noticed that bookmakers very rarely change their quotes much even if the team falls into a period of bad luck or loses its best scorer, etc. In a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, initially Liverpool was a big favorite, but now the quotes are equal. This suggests that the bookmakers realized that they were wrong, but they cannot "turn around" their opinion, but the changes that have taken place are the maximum for their business.

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February 08, 2023, 02:15:31 AM
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By the way, now, despite the fact that the bookmakers give equal chances to both Real and Liverpool, I'm sure they evaluate Real as a clear favorite. I noticed that bookmakers very rarely change their quotes much even if the team falls into a period of bad luck or loses its best scorer, etc. In a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, initially Liverpool was a big favorite, but now the quotes are equal.
Liverpool have very poor performance in Premier League that is worse than what I can think of. They not only have draw, lose points but also have terrible loses. They still have good players but maybe this season is not a good one for all of them and in general Liverpool can not have good combinations of those players. Therefore, they are more sensitive to lose points to any opponent, not only to big and strong opponents.

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This suggests that the bookmakers realized that they were wrong, but they cannot "turn around" their opinion, but the changes that have taken place are the maximum for their business.
In football and in matches between big clubs, we can not say anything definitely will happen and bookmakers are so scam with bet data they have so that they can easily flip all to take money from most of gamblers.

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February 08, 2023, 02:33:03 AM
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Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.
It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html

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February 08, 2023, 07:49:50 AM
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Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.
It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html
It is indeed very regrettable what the management of the Manchester City club has done to all parties involved, moreover Pep Guardiola is the first person who will criticize leaving Manchester City if they are proven guilty of this scandal. We know Pep Guardiola is a strict and disciplined person on the pitch and he doesn't hesitate to speak out what he thinks is not right and it looks like this problem will make him leave Manchester City soon.

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February 08, 2023, 07:51:17 AM
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If someone wants to figure out problems at Liverpool then surely he needs to check all things related to this club as there is no doubt Mane having good impact on Liverpool performance in last few years, and he was key player for them with few injuries are also having big impact as Firmino and van Dijk both are also not available which is also having negative impact on their performance.

Klopp has been frustrated by how many teams have pushed him to the breaking point and turned him into a laughing stock after selling Mane, who was a part of their greatest achievement, and despite the new players they have brought in, there hasn't been any improvement in their play. However, I anticipate that they will ask Firmino and Van Dijk to return for Champions League games, unless they want Salah and Gakpo to suffer their losses at the hands of Real Madrid.

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Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.

If Liverpool doesn't hire a new manager, Klopp will obviously make a wholesale switch on players like Firmino and those who are always injured. He has three years more left at the club on his contract, which is more than enough time to improve the club.



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February 08, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
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Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.
It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html
I don't see any great reason for Manchester City to put her coach in a dark. if you lie to the manager of your company about the operational difficulties of faults of your company the manager will not give his best or will not be on the same page with the company. If Manchester City is giving punishment only in EPL Guardiola may decide to stay because he will try his best to push the team to top four but  if it is extended to Champions League Guardiola may decide to leave Manchester City

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February 08, 2023, 09:49:27 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.

Mane is not the only player who left the team, but this is not an indicator, for example, Lewandowski also left Bayern, but this was not such a tangible loss for them. One player cannot have such an impact on the team. With Liverpool it is not clear what is happening, it seems that they fell asleep and cannot wake up. Klopp has done a lot for the team, but now we see that he cannot fix the crisis that has been going on for a long time. It's not just the renewal of players that matters to teams, sometimes a new coach brings new energy, as it did with Everton.

A difficult situation, because they understand that a manager like Klopp is not easy to find, but now it is not clear whether he can fix the situation in the team. And it’s not clear what is needed for this, perhaps it is necessary to update the squad with young players.
Liverpool's form this season has been so bad I can’t believe this is the same team that went head to head with Manchester City until the last game of the season for the league title. Mane was a great asset to the team and I think his departure was premature, but they have had enough time to adjust and replace Mane. Liverpool are yet to find a solution to their problems and looking for who and what to blame, the club wasn’t built around Mane so his absence is not the reason for the poor form, also I want to say sacking Klopp would be a mistake because finding a good coach these days is difficult.
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February 08, 2023, 12:17:18 PM
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Liverpool's situation is very sad now. The Liverpool team is now in tenth place in the points table. There are plenty of star players in the Liverpool squad. But still their overall performance is very poor. And I don't expect a good performance from them this season either. Next season, Liverpool management may make several changes within their team to strengthen the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to fire the coach.
I'm still trying to figure out why Liverpool have been having this poor performance this season , could this mean that Mane was only player that was carrying Liverpool along?,  because since after his departure the entire Liverpool team has been struggling to win matches both in Premier league and other compitions. However, they should still give Klop more time until next season to see if he will be able to get Liverpool back on track once again.
If someone wants to figure out problems at Liverpool then surely he needs to check all things related to this club as there is no doubt Mane having good impact on Liverpool performance in last few years, and he was key player for them with few injuries are also having big impact as Firmino and van Dijk both are also not available which is also having negative impact on their performance.

Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.
As the squad has been underperforming as of late, it is natural that Liverpool supporters are feeling dissatisfied and disillusioned. Without a question, losing many important players has been a major setback, and it's obvious that the squad will need to try something new if they want to break out of their present rut.

It is possible that Klopp's vast playing experience and familiarity with the team's strengths may prove to be instrumental in reviving the team's winning ways. Liverpool still has a shot at winning the Premier League if they give him time and backing; he has a solid track record.

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February 08, 2023, 12:39:34 PM
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Right now, Klopp is doing his best for changing fortune, but things are not working in his favour but good thing happening Liverpool management is giving him good time which is positive as he still capable of changing things in team's favour even this season is going to be nightmare for them, but hopefully they will have positive change at the end.
Of course what would you expect, Liverpool isn't really a club that hardly flinches before firing a manager, and Jurgen Klopp has also engineered quite a lot of success for the club in recent years, he was the manager who broke their decades long wait for a premier league title, thus it is only reasonable that the club give him more time in this difficult situation.

Having said that, i can't see any good fortunes coming for Liverpool this season, i think they can't wait for the summer to come pretty quickly so they could sign some new players, the club looks desperately in need of fresh legs. With the way Liverpool are playing i don't think they stand any chance against Real Madrid in the CL RO16, i would put my money on Real Madrid having a field day against them and advancing to the QF.



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February 08, 2023, 12:49:39 PM
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Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.
It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html
I don't see any great reason for Manchester City to put her coach in a dark. if you lie to the manager of your company about the operational difficulties of faults of your company the manager will not give his best or will not be on the same page with the company. If Manchester City is giving punishment only in EPL Guardiola may decide to stay because he will try his best to push the team to top four but  if it is extended to Champions League Guardiola may decide to leave Manchester City
In fact, if you look at the reports in the previous few seasons, Pep's failure in the Champions League had actually made him want to leave because he considered himself incapable of bringing the Champions League trophy to the Etihad but at that time the higher-ups could still hold on until now.
I think with the current conditions it will obviously be different because regardless of anything of course he doesn't want to get into big trouble I feel and this is likely not only Pep but there will be several players especially those who will be out of contract forcing to leave.

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February 08, 2023, 01:09:00 PM
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around 7 more days round of 16 in the Champions League will begin. And I think almost any game will be very difficult to predict. but of all that I think the match that is the most difficult to predict and will likely be the fiercest will be the match between PSG vs Bayern. although in the last 5 meetings we can see Bayern winning more matches, namely Bayern managed to get 4 wins from the last 5 meetings. while PSG only won 1 time in the last 5 meetings. even though Bayern have won more wins, that doesn't mean Bayern will be superior in this match. because the two teams have almost the same strength. but because PSG is the host, PSG's chances of winning are bigger.

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February 08, 2023, 01:25:49 PM
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Have possibility and rumor about Manchester City will get points deduction in Primer League but his participants in Champion League will disqualify or not.
I've been searching for a statement from them since Man City allegedly violated some UEFA rules too. This case is probably related to the reason why UEFA handed down a two-year ban on European competition to City but that was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport back in 2020. That means they've been cleared and won't be disqualified from Champions League.

I suppose by now nobody really understands what is going on anymore. There should be a much more universally applicable rule. National associations have their rules, then there is UEFA and then there is also FIFA and some other international court involved and so on and so forth. What did they find now that they couldn't prove last time when they turned the judgment over? It is permanently this back and forth with all these threats and no action being taken.
I see your point. They may agree on some policies on punishments but these are still organizations independent of each other. It seems the case stemmed from the same allegation back in 2018. Both organization launched their own investigation. UEFA wrapped up and handed out the fine and ban in 2020. Premier league just took a longer time. Their findings is probably more conclusive and airtight.
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February 08, 2023, 01:29:00 PM
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Manchester City was already acquitted in this regard.  If the current issue is independent of this, there is a possibility that they will be banned from European cups again.  If they are banned from European cups for 2 years, Pep can leave the team.  I think he has very strong opinions about it.
It doesn't even need to wait for UEFA to ban city to make pep leaves from city. If premier league will be giving a serious sanction and that will be enough for pep to leave from manchester city. I think that manchester city has been making pep guardiola feel disappointed with the management of club. The management of the club has been lying to him. The performance of city in UCL will be greatly affected by this scandal. You can read this to know more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11718131/Pep-Guardiola-odds-leave-Man-City-start-season-financial-charges.html
I don't see any great reason for Manchester City to put her coach in a dark. if you lie to the manager of your company about the operational difficulties of faults of your company the manager will not give his best or will not be on the same page with the company. If Manchester City is giving punishment only in EPL Guardiola may decide to stay because he will try his best to push the team to top four but  if it is extended to Champions League Guardiola may decide to leave Manchester City
pep has been even making a statement about that a few years ago.

I think that you shall read these statements by him carefully.

City's were handed a two-year ban from the Champions League for breaking FFP regulations in February 2020, only for the Court of Arbitration for Sport to clear them of all charges five months later, yet Guardiola had warned Etihad bosses that he would quit if they ever 'lied' to him about the extent of their financial dealings.

He revealed last year: 'If I defend the people and the club it’s because I work with them. When I asked about suspicions or if our people have done something, then I say to them, "tell me".

'I said to them "if you lie to me, the day after I’m not here, I will be out and you will not be my friend any more." But I look at them and believe them 100 per cent from day one. So I defend the club because of that.

The same problem is repeating again but with bigger capacity. City will be facing a bigger sanction rather than two years ban that can be avoided by the club a few years ago.

The team may be degraded to the low division in english competition. Some titles may be stripped off as well.

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February 08, 2023, 02:20:12 PM
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around 7 more days round of 16 in the Champions League will begin. And I think almost any game will be very difficult to predict. but of all that I think the match that is the most difficult to predict and will likely be the fiercest will be the match between PSG vs Bayern. although in the last 5 meetings we can see Bayern winning more matches, namely Bayern managed to get 4 wins from the last 5 meetings. while PSG only won 1 time in the last 5 meetings. even though Bayern have won more wins, that doesn't mean Bayern will be superior in this match. because the two teams have almost the same strength. but because PSG is the host, PSG's chances of winning are bigger.

The Champions League has always been a very uncertain competition where it is impossible to predict the winner in advance. This is why this competition is so popular.
For example, last season Bayern was the absolute favorite against Villarreal, but we all know how that match ended.
PSG has not played convincingly in the French championship lately and they even lost some games, which was a big surprise.
It is rumored that the relations between some players are not the best either, especially between the team's main stars Mbappe, Neymar and Messi.
Bayern also has problems recently, both with the results in the German league where it is no longer as dominant as before, but also with the team's goalkeeper Neuer who is unhappy because his personal coach was fired from the club.
I would say that this match will be completely uncertain with equal chances for both clubs.

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February 08, 2023, 02:34:27 PM
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Milan's condition is quite difficult with their current weak defense.
Tottenham is clearly one of the favorites in their current condition and I think they are the ones who will qualify for the next phase in this round.
Milan will host the first leg, but with their current condition, even though they are playing at home, I am personally quite skeptical of them, especially if they still can't improve their performance in midfield and defense.
Milan does look unconvincing at this time. even in the last 7 matches Milan has actually suffered more defeats which is quite surprising even from teams that are considered weak. Stefano Pioli as Milan coach is currently receiving a lot of criticism. But I personally see that there are other problems in the Milan camp that we don't know about. because after all Milan had improved their performance. even long enough to be ranked 2 in Serie A. but lately Milan has been disappointing in every game. I think the midfield and front line also need a lot of improvement at the moment.



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