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June 22, 2023, 02:56:14 PM
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If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

Mbappe? Maybe. But Håland? I am not sure. His drawback is that he plays for a team that almost never qualifies for major tournaments. So obviously the number of matches get reduced. In case of Mbappe, he plays for a very talented team and the position in the starting XI is not always guaranteed in the long term future. Ronaldo had everything going for him. He played for a comparatively strong team, and he was guaranteed of a position in the XI. And the bets part is that he may continue playing for Portugal for a couple of years more.

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June 22, 2023, 03:05:14 PM
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If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

Mbappe? Maybe. But Håland? I am not sure. His drawback is that he plays for a team that almost never qualifies for major tournaments. So obviously the number of matches get reduced. In case of Mbappe, he plays for a very talented team and the position in the starting XI is not always guaranteed in the long term future. Ronaldo had everything going for him. He played for a comparatively strong team, and he was guaranteed of a position in the XI. And the bets part is that he may continue playing for Portugal for a couple of years more.
Haaland already broke records with Manchester City and he is supposed to be a favorite player to break as many records as possible. I expect a bright future for him if he could avoid injuries.
For Mbappe, staying in PSG will not be very helpful without seeing Qataris investing more money to bring top players and consolidating the team even more.

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Whether it has to do with the strange understanding of the Turkish team, I don't know, but they haven't been performing well against worse teams. But they are not the only ones who have trouble against weaker teams. Usually when it was a good team against Liechtenstein, Cyprus and so on it could be said that this game will end with a lot of goals against those weaker teams. But they have become stronger in defending and I have often seen over the years that they keep a clean sheet for quite some time during games against stronger opponents. That makes the superior teams nervous and it works. Six or seven goals was normal, but that isn't normal today. The results look quite average even when it is David against Goliath.
Yes, Turkey has such a problem. We can't dominate the match against small country teams. This is one of our problems. While we make very simple mistakes, we can do really well offensively. I think success can come if we can be a better team defensively. The biggest problem for years has been in the defense and forward area.
I think that's true for a lot of teams, we have seen the world cup and that made it so sure that even big clubs like Spain and Germany failed to dominate against lower level teams. I think that is mainly because teams usually underrate the other teams and that makes it a lot harder for teams to end easier opponent games early.

Even the ones that ended up winning, ended up winning a lot harder and that's why it wasn't really that shocking for Turkey to have something like that too, it wasn't really a big deal for anyone as long as they keep winning and Turkey did end up winning both games in a row, that's good enough if you ask me. As long as teams get three points, how they get it doesn't really feel like it should matter, you won anyway.

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June 22, 2023, 06:35:09 PM
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If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

Mbappe? Maybe. But Håland? I am not sure. His drawback is that he plays for a team that almost never qualifies for major tournaments. So obviously the number of matches get reduced. In case of Mbappe, he plays for a very talented team and the position in the starting XI is not always guaranteed in the long term future. Ronaldo had everything going for him. He played for a comparatively strong team, and he was guaranteed of a position in the XI. And the bets part is that he may continue playing for Portugal for a couple of years more.

Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.

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June 22, 2023, 07:30:55 PM
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England are very dominant in their group now. They even defeated Italy away as well. I think we can already assume they will finish the group as the leader. This win over North Macedonia by 7-0 isn't surprising at all. There is a huge quality gap and England just showed it in action. Saka's hat-trick was really lovely to watch and Kane also played solid as always. The qualifiers stage is easy for them maybe but they need to keep this up in the main tournament as well. Because they have no titles achieved in a Euro tournament in their history.

In fact this team have such a capacity to win this tournament. They have a squad full of very skilled players. It is all about management as a result. Southgate has been managing them since 2016 but there is still no achievement. If he fails again I think they should start over with a new coach.
Let this game be not a sign of their power. England, on the paper, are always look good but in the tournaments they never get good results as they want, in recent times. Always a disappointment. I think England has the best squad in world football after France at the moment, this squad will last for many years. Other countries have gone through a great generational change and the strongest team is in England at the moment. But, as I said, actual result will be hard and I can't see they win anything. Stones is changed from the centre-back, Trent Alexander Arnold is changed from the right back and they are playing very solidly, I think they found the right position.

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It was the 200th game, not a goal. He scored 123 goals for the Portuguese national team, and even taking into account the fact that FIFA is raping the game calendar by inventing new moronic competitions + expanding the number of teams in the final part of tournaments, it’s hard for me to imagine that someone can surpass this result (maybe Mbappe?). I hope he will not stop and raise the bar as high as possible.

He's really strong, a great professional. I remember that in my beloved Juventus Pavel Nedved was like him too, he did extra training before and after, without anyone asking him.
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Whether it has to do with the strange understanding of the Turkish team, I don't know, but they haven't been performing well against worse teams. But they are not the only ones who have trouble against weaker teams. Usually when it was a good team against Liechtenstein, Cyprus and so on it could be said that this game will end with a lot of goals against those weaker teams. But they have become stronger in defending and I have often seen over the years that they keep a clean sheet for quite some time during games against stronger opponents. That makes the superior teams nervous and it works. Six or seven goals was normal, but that isn't normal today. The results look quite average even when it is David against Goliath.

This is one of the issues for Turkey indeed. Especially against Latvia they just can't get what they want in an easy way. They always have serious difficulties and they have had many draws against them as well. Turkey have the most ball possession as expected against such teams but from time to time they have serious issues with turning into goals. Turkey actually have really capable players in the front line. They haven't had a big diversity of solid strikers though but especially their midfielders are very impressive.

But it looks like there is still no solid cooperation among these players. It is Kuntz's job to make the players perform like they do normally with their teams in a season.

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If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

Mbappe? Maybe. But Håland? I am not sure. His drawback is that he plays for a team that almost never qualifies for major tournaments. So obviously the number of matches get reduced. In case of Mbappe, he plays for a very talented team and the position in the starting XI is not always guaranteed in the long term future. Ronaldo had everything going for him. He played for a comparatively strong team, and he was guaranteed of a position in the XI. And the bets part is that he may continue playing for Portugal for a couple of years more.

Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.

Haaland without a good midfield is dominating the field and if he was in a much better team he would have scored even more goals. I dont think he can do big things like to win a trophy but can get close to Ronaldo but i dont think he will be able to score more then Ronaldo

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Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.

I agree that the quality of play has gone down for the League of Nations, because the players and management doesn't take it seriously. I can't blame the players also. The calendar is getting too packed nowadays. FIFA has added more tournaments, the clubs want the players to play more matches to them and finally the UEFA also want a share of the pie. The players are getting squeezed without adequate rest. I doesn't really understand the purpose of having the UEFA Nations League, when there is the Euro Cup. If it was played in super-cup format, then it would have been still OK. But the round-robin format is being used now, which increases the number of matches.

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June 23, 2023, 07:21:54 AM
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Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.


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I envy Brazil hearing they'll get to sign Carlos Ancellotti before the next world Cup, despite that being special, I still do think there's a level of truth innit.

There is a truth in it according to the recent news about it. Ancelotti is really going to sign for Brazil but not right now. According to the deal Brazil will wait for Ancelotti's last year on his contract with Real Madrid to end. Therefore we can see Ancelotti starting to manage Brazil as of the summer of 2024. This must be already exciting for Brazilians.  Smiley

Because Ancelotti is a wonderful manager whose career is full of titles. He won the Champions League four times in total with Milan and Real Madrid. He is really just the kind of a manager who you would like to see at your team.

Brazil have been a failure in the World Cup for years so he can really be the one to resurrect them.

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June 23, 2023, 09:53:52 AM
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If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

Mbappe? Maybe. But Håland? I am not sure. His drawback is that he plays for a team that almost never qualifies for major tournaments. So obviously the number of matches get reduced. In case of Mbappe, he plays for a very talented team and the position in the starting XI is not always guaranteed in the long term future. Ronaldo had everything going for him. He played for a comparatively strong team, and he was guaranteed of a position in the XI. And the bets part is that he may continue playing for Portugal for a couple of years more.

Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.
Your viewpoint on Haaland surpassing Ronaldo has merit, but there's a broader game at play. The footballing arena has evolved, with a cramped calendar due to FIFA and UEFA upping their tournament game. More chances to shine, but it also dials up burnout and injury threats. As for UEFA' Nations League, I have reservations. Given the existing Euro Cup, doesnt this feel like unnecessary garnish on an already frosted cake? This burden of added fixtures may stymie Haaland's progression rather than boost it.

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June 23, 2023, 10:11:51 AM
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If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

Mbappe? Maybe. But Håland? I am not sure. His drawback is that he plays for a team that almost never qualifies for major tournaments. So obviously the number of matches get reduced. In case of Mbappe, he plays for a very talented team and the position in the starting XI is not always guaranteed in the long term future. Ronaldo had everything going for him. He played for a comparatively strong team, and he was guaranteed of a position in the XI. And the bets part is that he may continue playing for Portugal for a couple of years more.

Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.
Your viewpoint on Haaland surpassing Ronaldo has merit, but there's a broader game at play. The footballing arena has evolved, with a cramped calendar due to FIFA and UEFA upping their tournament game. More chances to shine, but it also dials up burnout and injury threats. As for UEFA' Nations League, I have reservations. Given the existing Euro Cup, doesnt this feel like unnecessary garnish on an already frosted cake? This burden of added fixtures may stymie Haaland's progression rather than boost it.

I think these added fixtures can make Haaland progress further more than stop him or make him go down in performance,that because in theory the games of UEFA Nations League are easier than the Euro qualifiers and some teams do not bother much with these games and use these as testing grounds for the important competitions like EURO and World Cup,as such Haaland will have more possibilities to progress his career with the national team in a better level.Of course he cannot keep all the pressure in his shoulders for a team like Norway but he can of course become (in fact he already is in my opinion) the best player in which Norway to rely to move further and achieve something good out of this national team.

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At an increasingly old age, many other players have started to have no faith in Ronaldo and there have been many cases where one of his own team, if in front of the opponent's goal, prefers to shoot directly rather than having to provide feedback to Ronaldo to have a chance to score.
For the Portuguese national team, I admit Ronaldo has been very meritorious and has provided many goals for Portugal.
If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

It's not that, he also has a very bulky temper and ego
you must always play for the team and not for yourself, if you pass the ball to a teammate you have more chances to score, the team comes before you
at least so I think
Yes, I know that Ronaldo has a very big temperament and ego. Not infrequently, he often experiences debates and several small disputes with his team-mates.
But actually Ronaldo is a very great player and he even always manages to take advantage of opportunities to score goals, it's just that there have been several incidents where his team-mates have started not to trust Ronaldo to be able to score goals.
But this is also a natural thing because every player wants to have the opportunity to score goals and become a player who can bring his team to victory.

Keep in that Ronaldo not trusted and often fights with his own colleagues even though he is one of the greatest players.

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June 23, 2023, 12:28:04 PM
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Haaland has 24 goals scored in 25 games for the national team. If he maintains such a fantastic scoring he could overtake Ronaldo with even fewer games. Moreover, taking into account the fact that there are more games of national teams and competition in garbage tournaments such as the League of Nations is low, he will have many opportunities.

Haaland without a good midfield is dominating the field and if he was in a much better team he would have scored even more goals. I dont think he can do big things like to win a trophy but can get close to Ronaldo but i dont think he will be able to score more then Ronaldo

Why not? The fact that Norway is weak is compensated by the fact that it has rivals of approximately the same level. For example, let's take the League of Nations - where Norway's rivals are the teams of Sweden, Slovakia and Serbia. These are not super tops and Haaland may well score goals to these teams. Now let's take the qualifying tournament for the European Championship - there Norway has Spain, Scotland, Georgia and Cyprus as rivals. The only unbearable rival is Spain, and for example Cyprus looks like a team where you can seriously improve your statistics.

Your viewpoint on Haaland surpassing Ronaldo has merit, but there's a broader game at play. The footballing arena has evolved, with a cramped calendar due to FIFA and UEFA upping their tournament game. More chances to shine, but it also dials up burnout and injury threats. As for UEFA' Nations League, I have reservations. Given the existing Euro Cup, doesnt this feel like unnecessary garnish on an already frosted cake? This burden of added fixtures may stymie Haaland's progression rather than boost it.

Yes, it's true, but given that Norway will almost certainly miss all the final stages of the World Cup, the European Championship and the League of Nations for Haaland, the calendar will not be as busy as, for example, players from Spain, Germany and other European tops.

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June 23, 2023, 02:11:51 PM
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It would also be better not to underestimate France guys, let's remember that they have always finished second behind a very strong Argentina in the world championships
something will be worth it, it seems that no one has thought of France

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At an increasingly old age, many other players have started to have no faith in Ronaldo and there have been many cases where one of his own team, if in front of the opponent's goal, prefers to shoot directly rather than having to provide feedback to Ronaldo to have a chance to score.
For the Portuguese national team, I admit Ronaldo has been very meritorious and has provided many goals for Portugal.
If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

It's not that, he also has a very bulky temper and ego
you must always play for the team and not for yourself, if you pass the ball to a teammate you have more chances to score, the team comes before you
at least so I think
Yes, I know that Ronaldo has a very big temperament and ego. Not infrequently, he often experiences debates and several small disputes with his team-mates.
But actually Ronaldo is a very great player and he even always manages to take advantage of opportunities to score goals, it's just that there have been several incidents where his team-mates have started not to trust Ronaldo to be able to score goals.
But this is also a natural thing because every player wants to have the opportunity to score goals and become a player who can bring his team to victory.

Keep in that Ronaldo not trusted and often fights with his own colleagues even though he is one of the greatest players.

He has again made one of these statements that make him no more popular among his team mates. He is doing it knowing that this doesn't increase the team's aspiration to act and feel like a united group of players. it was again about his ego and how many records he is holding and that he isn't hunting the records, but the records are hunting him. It's ok if thinks that but why should he rub all those words straight into his team mates' faces in public? It helps as long as he makes the goals and wins the games, but it doesn't help when they get into a crisis. They wouldn't be willing to help each other then. But he is who he is and that is never going to chance Smiley

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June 23, 2023, 03:58:21 PM
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At an increasingly old age, many other players have started to have no faith in Ronaldo and there have been many cases where one of his own team, if in front of the opponent's goal, prefers to shoot directly rather than having to provide feedback to Ronaldo to have a chance to score.
For the Portuguese national team, I admit Ronaldo has been very meritorious and has provided many goals for Portugal.
If it is said who will surpass Ronaldo's achievements in scoring goals, I have two player options, namely Mbappe and also Haaland.

It's not that, he also has a very bulky temper and ego
you must always play for the team and not for yourself, if you pass the ball to a teammate you have more chances to score, the team comes before you
at least so I think
Yes, I know that Ronaldo has a very big temperament and ego. Not infrequently, he often experiences debates and several small disputes with his team-mates.
But actually Ronaldo is a very great player and he even always manages to take advantage of opportunities to score goals, it's just that there have been several incidents where his team-mates have started not to trust Ronaldo to be able to score goals.
But this is also a natural thing because every player wants to have the opportunity to score goals and become a player who can bring his team to victory.

Keep in that Ronaldo not trusted and often fights with his own colleagues even though he is one of the greatest players.

He has again made one of these statements that make him no more popular among his team mates. He is doing it knowing that this doesn't increase the team's aspiration to act and feel like a united group of players. it was again about his ego and how many records he is holding and that he isn't hunting the records, but the records are hunting him. It's ok if thinks that but why should he rub all those words straight into his team mates' faces in public? It helps as long as he makes the goals and wins the games, but it doesn't help when they get into a crisis. They wouldn't be willing to help each other then. But he is who he is and that is never going to chance Smiley

@tiCer personally I feel that Ronaldo should not be recalled for an international match unless it’s his farewell match because there’s not much that he can offer to the team. Furthermore the Portugal coach should move on from the Ronaldo era and start building a team for the future and once again I’ll say that call Ronaldo but only to offer him a farewell nothing more.
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June 23, 2023, 04:27:35 PM
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It would also be better not to underestimate France guys, let's remember that they have always finished second behind a very strong Argentina in the world championships
something will be worth it, it seems that no one has thought of France

At this point, Argentina and Brazil are much stronger than any of the UEFA teams including France and England. If you remember, the final of the FIFA World Cup in 2022 was a one-sided match, with Argentina completely dominating for the first 80 minutes. France fought back during the last 10 minutes and during the extra time. This once again shows that in a direct one-to-one fight, France will be the underdogs. I don't know about 2026, because Messi won't be there in the Argentine squad. Even then I don't think that France will have the upper hand.

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June 23, 2023, 04:43:38 PM
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It would also be better not to underestimate France guys, let's remember that they have always finished second behind a very strong Argentina in the world championships
something will be worth it, it seems that no one has thought of France

At this point, Argentina and Brazil are much stronger than any of the UEFA teams including France and England. If you remember, the final of the FIFA World Cup in 2022 was a one-sided match, with Argentina completely dominating for the first 80 minutes. France fought back during the last 10 minutes and during the extra time. This once again shows that in a direct one-to-one fight, France will be the underdogs. I don't know about 2026, because Messi won't be there in the Argentine squad. Even then I don't think that France will have the upper hand.

Argentina wanted it more in the world cup final but if they played now a regular match for me France would win. They have a better team on paper and are good. They even had a shot at winning the world cup just got unlucky with penalties and that miss in extra time. I dont see Argentina in 2026 even close to the finals let alone winning the title again.

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