⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers👉Group Stage

[KTChampions]

England are generally historical losers in football
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Completely agreed with this. I don't even remember when was the last time England managed to win a world cup, or even the Euro Cup. And I still remember what happened during Euro 2020. They asked some of their inexperienced players (Jadon Sancho, Bukayo Saka.etc) to take the penalty kicks and they lost as a result of that. And when their fans complained, the management shut them up by labeling all of them as racists. And look at their performance during Qatar 2022. They were one of the favorites to win the trophy, before getting kicked out of the competition by France. 

I remember that scandal and there were really a lot of racist comments (and if I remember correctly, after that, social media laws were tightened in England - this is really bad because it infringes on freedom of speech).
In general, this position of England (as well as many other teams) is due to the fact that there are very few titles and they simply cannot physically be enough for all good teams. FIFA "corrects" the situation by inventing new shitty competitions.

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[Sithara007]

I also don't know what exactly is the obstacle for England to win in the Euro and World Cup competitions, even though the composition of the English players is quite good

in group C, England is currently leading with 6 points while Italy is in 2nd place with 3 points, it is very likely that England will qualify from the qualifying round but they will have difficulty when they are in the quarter-finals or semifinals

It doesn't matter if many football fans call England the big European team but a loser

Having good players alone can't guarantee anything. If the coach and management doesn't know how to use these players, then all the talent will be left unused. What was the point in asking the inexperienced players to take penalty kicks during the Euro 2020 finals? There were enough experienced players who were available. When the fans questioned this, rather than giving them proper replies, the management just called all of them as racist and xenophobic. This sort of arrogance is the reason why England never win major trophies.

[shogun47]

England are generally historical losers in football
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Completely agreed with this. I don't even remember when was the last time England managed to win a world cup, or even the Euro Cup. And I still remember what happened during Euro 2020. They asked some of their inexperienced players (Jadon Sancho, Bukayo Saka.etc) to take the penalty kicks and they lost as a result of that. And when their fans complained, the management shut them up by labeling all of them as racists. And look at their performance during Qatar 2022. They were one of the favorites to win the trophy, before getting kicked out of the competition by France. 

I remember that scandal and there were really a lot of racist comments (and if I remember correctly, after that, social media laws were tightened in England - this is really bad because it infringes on freedom of speech).
In general, this position of England (as well as many other teams) is due to the fact that there are very few titles and they simply cannot physically be enough for all good teams. FIFA "corrects" the situation by inventing new shitty competitions.

But this is a good point: there are only so many titles to be distributed and many more teams who in theory would have the strength to win them. I mean imagine when two countries , or even three for this matter, have a golden era. Like the best Spain we have ever seen and the best France we have ever seen and some other national team. Of those three, only one has the chance to actually win a title all two years. It's tough because nobody will ever remember a 2nd place in those tournaments, at least not when you were one of the favorites. It is a different story when you become 3rd as an underdog.

But back to the example, when only one team can win, is it then fair to judge that the other two golden eras are loser teams? I don't think so. Losing against France is ok, which team in the world would beat France guaranteed? Sometimes there is no just winner. Take the finals when there were penalty shootouts. There is nothing more painful than a penalty shootout in a final because it is about being remembered as a loser or as a winner, but often times both teams actually deserved it. And then a 50/50 decision by the goalkeeper decides about it. Striker shoots left, goalie jumps right, goal.

The thrill for the audience is amazing of course, but for the players it is the worst if they leave the pitch as losers even though they fought their way through the whole tournament and ended up losing a penalty shootout perhaps even after a world class game in the final.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Surely it must ever be a hit for England to win a title? At the last European Championship they were very close, but Italy threw a spanner in the works. The last World Cup could have gone very differently if Italy had managed to qualify, but that does not count. England is always one of the favorites to win the title, but personally I think France is at a slightly higher level at the moment. We also see this in the performance of recent years, in which England reached the final of the European Championship once, and has not achieved anything at all in the past 20 years?

[Sithara007]

Surely it must ever be a hit for England to win a title? At the last European Championship they were very close, but Italy threw a spanner in the works. The last World Cup could have gone very differently if Italy had managed to qualify, but that does not count. England is always one of the favorites to win the title, but personally I think France is at a slightly higher level at the moment. We also see this in the performance of recent years, in which England reached the final of the European Championship once, and has not achieved anything at all in the past 20 years?

France definitely seems to be the best European side at this point. Their performance during Qatar 2022 was exceptional, before going down against a very strong Argentina in the final. And remember that they were without many of their key players, including Paul Pogba and Karim Benzema. The advantage with France is that they have got several younger players in their squad who can replace the senior players in case they get injured. I don't think that any of the other teams (including England) has this advantage right now.

[Strongkored]

Surely it must ever be a hit for England to win a title? At the last European Championship they were very close, but Italy threw a spanner in the works. The last World Cup could have gone very differently if Italy had managed to qualify, but that does not count. England is always one of the favorites to win the title, but personally I think France is at a slightly higher level at the moment. We also see this in the performance of recent years, in which England reached the final of the European Championship once, and has not achieved anything at all in the past 20 years?

England is often the favorite team but often fails to achieve high achievements, especially in the European Cup after decades ago its best performance was ranked 3rd, only after that it made it to the final only to lose again, so even in the European Cup this time there will still be doubts about them being able to reach final because other teams look more solid when playing in an international tournament which England often doesn't have, and France will be the most favorite and also host team Germany which doesn't look good at the World Cup.

[Sithara007]

England is often the favorite team but often fails to achieve high achievements, especially in the European Cup after decades ago its best performance was ranked 3rd, only after that it made it to the final only to lose again, so even in the European Cup this time there will still be doubts about them being able to reach final because other teams look more solid when playing in an international tournament which England often doesn't have, and France will be the most favorite and also host team Germany which doesn't look good at the World Cup.

Right now, there is a large gap between France and other UEFA teams. And I would say that in case all of their players are fit, then France will lift the trophy without any effort in 2024. England comes close, but they have issues with consistency. Italy and Spain do have some promising younger players, but they are not performing well at international level. I don't want to talk too much about the dying teams such as Germany, Danmark and Netherlands. They are going down the drain, and I don't think that they will stay relevant to international football in the long term.

[Juggy777]

England is often the favorite team but often fails to achieve high achievements, especially in the European Cup after decades ago its best performance was ranked 3rd, only after that it made it to the final only to lose again, so even in the European Cup this time there will still be doubts about them being able to reach final because other teams look more solid when playing in an international tournament which England often doesn't have, and France will be the most favorite and also host team Germany which doesn't look good at the World Cup.

Right now, there is a large gap between France and other UEFA teams. And I would say that in case all of their players are fit, then France will lift the trophy without any effort in 2024. England comes close, but they have issues with consistency. Italy and Spain do have some promising younger players, but they are not performing well at international level. I don't want to talk too much about the dying teams such as Germany, Danmark and Netherlands. They are going down the drain, and I don't think that they will stay relevant to international football in the long term.

@Sithara007 France definitely have one of the best squad, but I won’t say that they’ll lift the trophy without much effort because they’ll need their star player’s to be injury free and only then will they have any chance of winning this tournament.

Also if Kane moves to Manchester United then he and Rashford could develop a strong bond, and this could be used by Southgate to help England win this tournament thus you see it’s too soon to pick a winner as there’re multiple scenarios which can play out leading to the start of this tournament.

[tazmantasik]

England is often the favorite team but often fails to achieve high achievements, especially in the European Cup after decades ago its best performance was ranked 3rd, only after that it made it to the final only to lose again, so even in the European Cup this time there will still be doubts about them being able to reach final because other teams look more solid when playing in an international tournament which England often doesn't have, and France will be the most favorite and also host team Germany which doesn't look good at the World Cup.

Right now, there is a large gap between France and other UEFA teams. And I would say that in case all of their players are fit, then France will lift the trophy without any effort in 2024. England comes close, but they have issues with consistency. Italy and Spain do have some promising younger players, but they are not performing well at international level. I don't want to talk too much about the dying teams such as Germany, Danmark and Netherlands. They are going down the drain, and I don't think that they will stay relevant to international football in the long term.

French national team is the golden generation for now where the composition of their players is still very young and of course they have quite a lot of experience and playing minutes with the big teams in Europe. After Hugo Lloris left, who retired, the French national team was not too burdened because Mike Maignan have quit well perform with AC Milan would be able to fill the goalkeeper position. Left with center forward as the weakness from France because Karim Benzema have announced retired from national team and difficult finding with new center forward after Giroud not the first option with his team AC Milan.

[slackovic]

Right now, there is a large gap between France and other UEFA teams. And I would say that in case all of their players are fit, then France will lift the trophy without any effort in 2024. England comes close, but they have issues with consistency. Italy and Spain do have some promising younger players, but they are not performing well at international level. I don't want to talk too much about the dying teams such as Germany, Danmark and Netherlands. They are going down the drain, and I don't think that they will stay relevant to international football in the long term.

I don't agree that there is a large gap between France and other European teams. France currently maybe is the best team in Europe, but England and Spain are pretty close. Just look at how they got kicked out from the final four of the Nations League. They got one win in the last 5 games played and finished third after Croatia and Denmark. I know that Nations League is not that important competition, but it still is a competition and I'm sure that France fans would love to see them in the final four.

I just wanna say that France may be the best team in Europe, but they are not unbeatable. Especially in the knockout games where one red card or one penalty can change the outcome of the game.

[Sithara007]

I don't agree that there is a large gap between France and other European teams. France currently maybe is the best team in Europe, but England and Spain are pretty close. Just look at how they got kicked out from the final four of the Nations League. They got one win in the last 5 games played and finished third after Croatia and Denmark. I know that Nations League is not that important competition, but it still is a competition and I'm sure that France fans would love to see them in the final four.

I just wanna say that France may be the best team in Europe, but they are not unbeatable. Especially in the knockout games where one red card or one penalty can change the outcome of the game.

We are talking about something that happened almost a year ago. Yes... France didn't performed well during the 2022–23 UEFA Nations League. The management didn't gave much importance to this competition, and the players themselves looked not very interested. There were quite a few upsets. Started with France going down 1-2 against Danmark (after scoring the initial goal). Then Croatia got a lucky penalty, which helped them to hold France to a draw. Then again, in the next match another penalty enabled Croatia to defeat France.. I am not defending their performance in this tournament. Just saying that France of 2022 June is not the same as the France of 2023 April.

[slackovic]

We are talking about something that happened almost a year ago. Yes... France didn't performed well during the 2022–23 UEFA Nations League. The management didn't gave much importance to this competition, and the players themselves looked not very interested. There were quite a few upsets. Started with France going down 1-2 against Danmark (after scoring the initial goal). Then Croatia got a lucky penalty, which helped them to hold France to a draw. Then again, in the next match another penalty enabled Croatia to defeat France.. I am not defending their performance in this tournament. Just saying that France of 2022 June is not the same as the France of 2023 April.

Yeah, but you can't say that there is a large gap between France and all other European teams after France played two games in this year. I admit, winning 4-0 against Netherlands is great, but Netherlands is not the top European nation. We will see how good France will be when they play against England or Spain.

[sana54210]

We are talking about something that happened almost a year ago. Yes... France didn't performed well during the 2022–23 UEFA Nations League. The management didn't gave much importance to this competition, and the players themselves looked not very interested. There were quite a few upsets. Started with France going down 1-2 against Danmark (after scoring the initial goal). Then Croatia got a lucky penalty, which helped them to hold France to a draw. Then again, in the next match another penalty enabled Croatia to defeat France.. I am not defending their performance in this tournament. Just saying that France of 2022 June is not the same as the France of 2023 April.

I would guess that even the world cup qualifiers weren't really that much amazing for them neither. In the end France knows what is important and what is not, which game matters and which one doesn't and they play accordingly. I have to say they have won a world cup, and they were the finalists on the last one. They almost got that one too, penalties were the only difference maker.

So all in all I would say that it is not really that much of a big deal to not win something like nations league which is basically a friendly cup at this point, nobody really cares about it. France will be fine and they have a big chance to win it this time around, they do not have a proper Italy against them neither, they have no competition against them.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In my opinion, the victory of Croatia against Turkey was obvious, as Croatia "unplanned" lost points in the game with Wales and had to correct the situation. As for Turkey, this team has long suffered hard times and the situation is not improving, so their chances against a motivated Croatia, even in the home game, were minimal.

If the Turkish national team coach changes, things will change in the group. In the second match, Türkiye takes the field stronger. But if Kuntz stays, Türkiye's job will be difficult, even impossible. There are names that are spoken about change. For example, if Sergen Yalçin becomes the head of the national team, there will be a great change in the positive direction. It's clear that there will be no long-term success with Kuntz. Participating in Euro 2024 is a must for the country. This country can't afford to miss another big tournament.

Well, the Turkish team is one of the ones that expected much more, however, it was played with one of the strongest teams in the world and this is reflected in the squad of its players, not every team comes out like this after having played very well. well, it is also good that the Turkish team is measured like this because that makes it so that things in fútbol are quite difficult, and to win the place in the euro they have to show that they are the best, once the Euro starts Things will change , and that is for me like a Mini-World Cup.

Surely it must ever be a hit for England to win a title? At the last European Championship they were very close, but Italy threw a spanner in the works. The last World Cup could have gone very differently if Italy had managed to qualify, but that does not count. England is always one of the favorites to win the title, but personally I think France is at a slightly higher level at the moment. We also see this in the performance of recent years, in which England reached the final of the European Championship once, and has not achieved anything at all in the past 20 years?

England is often the favorite team but often fails to achieve high achievements, especially in the European Cup after decades ago its best performance was ranked 3rd, only after that it made it to the final only to lose again, so even in the European Cup this time there will still be doubts about them being able to reach final because other teams look more solid when playing in an international tournament which England often doesn't have, and France will be the most favorite and also host team Germany which doesn't look good at the World Cup.

I cannot deny that here a team like England has not come very far for a long time, and that is one of the most prominent teams, not only in Europe but in the whole world, as far as I am concerned, the best Of all the teams, it was when David Beckham was there and when Wayne Rooney was there,unfortunately they didn't win a World Cup at that time, but right now I haven't seen good players as outstanding as the ones I named, there are very good ones, but not with that quality, and That is something that should be worked on within the English team.

[Sithara007]

I cannot deny that here a team like England has not come very far for a long time, and that is one of the most prominent teams, not only in Europe but in the whole world, as far as I am concerned, the best Of all the teams, it was when David Beckham was there and when Wayne Rooney was there,unfortunately they didn't win a World Cup at that time, but right now I haven't seen good players as outstanding as the ones I named, there are very good ones, but not with that quality, and That is something that should be worked on within the English team.

I can agree with you. At this point, England doesn't have a player of the calibre of David Beckham, Wayne Rooney or Michael Owen. They do have some very good players such as Marcus Rashford and Raheem Sterling, but they are not as the same level as Beckham and Rooney. Absence of a single star player is one of the negatives, but it also has some advantages. I would say that England team has good co-ordination and bonding compared to many of the other UEFA teams. Also, I haven't noticed any of the players going on selfish mode, i.e not passing around the ball.

[DoverDoane]

We are talking about something that happened almost a year ago. Yes... France didn't performed well during the 2022–23 UEFA Nations League. The management didn't gave much importance to this competition, and the players themselves looked not very interested. There were quite a few upsets. Started with France going down 1-2 against Danmark (after scoring the initial goal). Then Croatia got a lucky penalty, which helped them to hold France to a draw. Then again, in the next match another penalty enabled Croatia to defeat France.. I am not defending their performance in this tournament. Just saying that France of 2022 June is not the same as the France of 2023 April.

Yeah, but you can't say that there is a large gap between France and all other European teams after France played two games in this year. I admit, winning 4-0 against Netherlands is great, but Netherlands is not the top European nation. We will see how good France will be when they play against England or Spain.

According to me, the win against the Netherlands was pretty great with a landslide score of 4-0, as we know the Netherlands is a strong team in Europe, in the early minutes of the match France had already controlled the ball and a good opening goal by Griezmann, making it even more difficult for the Netherlands to catch up, plus upamecano goal and Mbappe streak makes the game look hopeless for the Netherlands, but even if France plays England or Spain I think they will still get the win.

[cygan]

norwegian Age Hareide will be the new coach of the icelandic national team. he said his goal was to qualify for the 2024 european championship in germany. the 69-yo most recently coached swedish club malmö ff.
in his career, AH was already national coach in norway from 2003 to 2008 and in denmark from 2016 to 2020.

[Sithara007]

norwegian Age Hareide will be the new coach of the icelandic national team. he said his goal was to qualify for the 2024 european championship in germany. the 69-yo most recently coached swedish club malmö ff.
in his career, AH was already national coach in norway from 2003 to 2008 and in denmark from 2016 to 2020.

Iceland surprised everyone when they managed to qualify for the 2018 FIFA World Cup. Qualifying itself was a big achievement, and during the tournament they held Argentina to a 1-1 draw (thanks to a goal from Alfreð Finnbogason). And before that in 2016, they managed to reach the Quarter-finals of Euro 2016. But after 2018, their performance went down. They failed to qualify for the Euro 2020 and FIFA 2022. Hopefully they will be able to qualify for Euro this time. It's not that tough, given that they are being placed in a group alongside Portugal, Slovakia and Bosnia.

[Daniel91]

I don't agree that there is a large gap between France and other European teams. France currently maybe is the best team in Europe, but England and Spain are pretty close. Just look at how they got kicked out from the final four of the Nations League. They got one win in the last 5 games played and finished third after Croatia and Denmark. I know that Nations League is not that important competition, but it still is a competition and I'm sure that France fans would love to see them in the final four.

I just wanna say that France may be the best team in Europe, but they are not unbeatable. Especially in the knockout games where one red card or one penalty can change the outcome of the game.

We are talking about something that happened almost a year ago. Yes... France didn't performed well during the 2022–23 UEFA Nations League. The management didn't gave much importance to this competition, and the players themselves looked not very interested. There were quite a few upsets. Started with France going down 1-2 against Danmark (after scoring the initial goal). Then Croatia got a lucky penalty, which helped them to hold France to a draw. Then again, in the next match another penalty enabled Croatia to defeat France.. I am not defending their performance in this tournament. Just saying that France of 2022 June is not the same as the France of 2023 April.

You failed to mention that France lost to Denmark in the last round of the competition and almost got relegated from the elite class of the competition. Croatia saved France from relegation with their victory against Austria in the last round 
According to you, all those bad results of France are the result of bad luck and not the bad games of the French in that competition, which I would not agree with. In all 6 matches of this competition, France was bad, and there is no question of any bad luck.
French footballers were not motivated while playing for their national team? Really? I don't think so.

[bitgolden]

According to me, the win against the Netherlands was pretty great with a landslide score of 4-0, as we know the Netherlands is a strong team in Europe, in the early minutes of the match France had already controlled the ball and a good opening goal by Griezmann, making it even more difficult for the Netherlands to catch up, plus upamecano goal and Mbappe streak makes the game look hopeless for the Netherlands, but even if France plays England or Spain I think they will still get the win.

France is just something different, they are not playing at the same level as everyone else. I mean this team will be winning the cup unless something major happens and that's an important thing to remember. I personally hope that the best thing we could do at this moment is to make sure that it is going as smooth as it gets.

It is not going to be easy to do that but it should be something much better than last time they played it. They showed themselves in the world cup just recently as well, even though they lost, they beat everyone easily until the finals and finals was just a mere seconds away before they missed the last shot, and then penalties. I think Netherlands is nowhere near that level and was an expected upset.