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June 23, 2023, 05:48:03 PM
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I envy Brazil hearing they'll get to sign Carlos Ancellotti before the next world Cup, despite that being special, I still do think there's a level of truth innit.
There is a truth in it according to the recent news about it. Ancelotti is really going to sign for Brazil but not right now. According to the deal Brazil will wait for Ancelotti's last year on his contract with Real Madrid to end. Therefore we can see Ancelotti starting to manage Brazil as of the summer of 2024. This must be already exciting for Brazilians.  Smiley

Because Ancelotti is a wonderful manager whose career is full of titles. He won the Champions League four times in total with Milan and Real Madrid. He is really just the kind of a manager who you would like to see at your team.

Brazil have been a failure in the World Cup for years so he can really be the one to resurrect them.
I wonder who Real would get instead in that case, or if that would even happen. We know that his contract is ending but nobody can guarantee that he will be gone and not come back, we may see him totally be there and sign another contract again. That is why I honestly believe that nothing is inked yet so nothing is certain.

However, if that happens and he ends up getting a contract with Brazil, that leaves Madrid spot open and finding a manager there is a tough thing, it's one of the biggest teams, so finding a manager there requires you to find someone that is world class. Not a lot of them to go around, it will take some time and effort to do something like that and only handful of managers all around the world have the experience to do it.

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June 23, 2023, 06:16:54 PM
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Technically yeah Norway also play matches against opponents at the same level or even below their level. Those matches are great opportunities for Haaland to increase the number of goals he scored by a huge rate. But he really needs to be very consistent about it. Because if he is out-of-form in even such matches it would be really difficult for him to break Ronaldo's goal record.

But when it comes to Mbappe the situation is a little more different. He is playing for one of the strongest national teams in the world, France. They can literally beat everyone as long as they stay solid. Hence I think Mbappe has a higher probability of scoring more goals than Haaland during his national career as well.

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June 24, 2023, 06:48:15 AM
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Whether it has to do with the strange understanding of the Turkish team, I don't know, but they haven't been performing well against worse teams. But they are not the only ones who have trouble against weaker teams. Usually when it was a good team against Liechtenstein, Cyprus and so on it could be said that this game will end with a lot of goals against those weaker teams. But they have become stronger in defending and I have often seen over the years that they keep a clean sheet for quite some time during games against stronger opponents. That makes the superior teams nervous and it works. Six or seven goals was normal, but that isn't normal today. The results look quite average even when it is David against Goliath.

This is one of the issues for Turkey indeed. Especially against Latvia they just can't get what they want in an easy way. They always have serious difficulties and they have had many draws against them as well. Turkey have the most ball possession as expected against such teams but from time to time they have serious issues with turning into goals. Turkey actually have really capable players in the front line. They haven't had a big diversity of solid strikers though but especially their midfielders are very impressive.

But it looks like there is still no solid cooperation among these players. It is Kuntz's job to make the players perform like they do normally with their teams in a season.

I don't know what is wrong, but between 2000 and 2008 they had such a strong time and usually I would expect a country like Turkey to be among the teams that would be able to surprise and beat some of the favorites. It's a big country with great players, but as you said the cooperation seems to be the problem that must be solved. Considering for how long they have been failing qualify for the World Cup or getting through the first round at the European Championship, it raises the question why that is. Great individual players, but some of them don't play for Turkey, that is also part of the truth.

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June 24, 2023, 02:08:25 PM
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Whether it has to do with the strange understanding of the Turkish team, I don't know, but they haven't been performing well against worse teams. But they are not the only ones who have trouble against weaker teams. Usually when it was a good team against Liechtenstein, Cyprus and so on it could be said that this game will end with a lot of goals against those weaker teams. But they have become stronger in defending and I have often seen over the years that they keep a clean sheet for quite some time during games against stronger opponents. That makes the superior teams nervous and it works. Six or seven goals was normal, but that isn't normal today. The results look quite average even when it is David against Goliath.

This is one of the issues for Turkey indeed. Especially against Latvia they just can't get what they want in an easy way. They always have serious difficulties and they have had many draws against them as well. Turkey have the most ball possession as expected against such teams but from time to time they have serious issues with turning into goals. Turkey actually have really capable players in the front line. They haven't had a big diversity of solid strikers though but especially their midfielders are very impressive.

But it looks like there is still no solid cooperation among these players. It is Kuntz's job to make the players perform like they do normally with their teams in a season.

I don't know what is wrong, but between 2000 and 2008 they had such a strong time and usually I would expect a country like Turkey to be among the teams that would be able to surprise and beat some of the favorites. It's a big country with great players, but as you said the cooperation seems to be the problem that must be solved. Considering for how long they have been failing qualify for the World Cup or getting through the first round at the European Championship, it raises the question why that is. Great individual players, but some of them don't play for Turkey, that is also part of the truth.

I think the problem of Turkey is that foreign players play the main roles in their league.
Domestic players have not learned to lead teams and take responsibility in their clubs and do not have the opportunity to develop as players.
I remember the incredible Turkey at EURO 2008. It was a team that never gave up and fought until the end. Their match in the quarter-finals against Croatia at EURO 2008 is legendary, when they conceded a goal in the penultimate minute and was loosing, but they did not give up and in the last minute they equalized the score and then beat Croatia on penalties.
Today's Turkey no longer has such fanaticism, spirit and quality.

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June 24, 2023, 06:58:30 PM
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This is one of the issues for Turkey indeed. Especially against Latvia they just can't get what they want in an easy way. They always have serious difficulties and they have had many draws against them as well. Turkey have the most ball possession as expected against such teams but from time to time they have serious issues with turning into goals. Turkey actually have really capable players in the front line. They haven't had a big diversity of solid strikers though but especially their midfielders are very impressive.

But it looks like there is still no solid cooperation among these players. It is Kuntz's job to make the players perform like they do normally with their teams in a season.
I don't know what is wrong, but between 2000 and 2008 they had such a strong time and usually I would expect a country like Turkey to be among the teams that would be able to surprise and beat some of the favorites. It's a big country with great players, but as you said the cooperation seems to be the problem that must be solved. Considering for how long they have been failing qualify for the World Cup or getting through the first round at the European Championship, it raises the question why that is. Great individual players, but some of them don't play for Turkey, that is also part of the truth.
Well, they did managed to beat France, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, tied with Croatia. So you can see that they have been doing alright so far with all those big games but then they lost to Faroe Islands, keep that part in mind as well. All in all I am expecting them to get better because they found a good young core that is better than most in this case, and they may do very well, they just need time.

I still think considering they are in Europe and Europe has so many great teams, it's hard for them to crack into that top spot, because usually it's either you gotta be first in the groups, or you play at the playoffs, and every group has at least one great team, and playoffs usually have one or two great teams as well, which makes Turkey fail to qualify as well.

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June 24, 2023, 07:42:24 PM
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It would also be better not to underestimate France guys, let's remember that they have always finished second behind a very strong Argentina in the world championships
something will be worth it, it seems that no one has thought of France
That is right but there also quite a number of issues with France. Still, they might be even the top contender. It was still a good match for the last world runner-up, they constantly improved their attack, but Greece did not play badly, they defended their post well, but it was a well-deserved win for France. It is right to repeat the penalty position because the player who enters early has cleared the ball. The penalty is red card everywhere, whether he sees the man or not. Seeing the man and doing it is like an attempted murder. Mbappe hits hard on the penalty spot, but he's very clear where to hit. He can't shoot surprises like Messi and Ronaldo. What Messi is to Argentina, mbappe is to France. This match is not specific, but in general terms, although he is not the captain, he plays like the captain and carries the team on his back.

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June 24, 2023, 08:22:47 PM
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@tiCer personally I feel that Ronaldo should not be recalled for an international match unless it’s his farewell match because there’s not much that he can offer to the team. Furthermore the Portugal coach should move on from the Ronaldo era and start building a team for the future and once again I’ll say that call Ronaldo but only to offer him a farewell nothing more.

@Juggy777 whether you and I like it or not, but Ronaldo has one thing for him going and that is that he still scores goals. And he doesn't score only any trivial goals like the 4-0 in the 80th minute, but the winning goal or the only goal of the game in the last minutes. As long as he can do that, it will be hard to remove him from the national team and again, if he scores those goals there is also not really a reason to remove him. I agree that he doesn't contribute to the team as a whole besides those goals and that works for as long as there is a crisis and he doesn't score this one goal that the needed. I am sure that then the moment will come when the whole team is against him either in the form of being silent and letting him fight the public on his own or by really saying those words against him.

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It would also be better not to underestimate France guys, let's remember that they have always finished second behind a very strong Argentina in the world championships
something will be worth it, it seems that no one has thought of France
That is right but there also quite a number of issues with France. Still, they might be even the top contender. It was still a good match for the last world runner-up, they constantly improved their attack, but Greece did not play badly, they defended their post well, but it was a well-deserved win for France. It is right to repeat the penalty position because the player who enters early has cleared the ball. The penalty is red card everywhere, whether he sees the man or not. Seeing the man and doing it is like an attempted murder. Mbappe hits hard on the penalty spot, but he's very clear where to hit. He can't shoot surprises like Messi and Ronaldo. What Messi is to Argentina, mbappe is to France. This match is not specific, but in general terms, although he is not the captain, he plays like the captain and carries the team on his back.
It seems to me that Mbappe cannot be called the captain of the French team just because he is the best player in the team right now... Yes, he does play very well and brilliantly, but he is young, he has little experience and his personal qualities do not allow him to be a captain... Maybe in the future he will become experienced and earn the title of captain, but right now I can't call him that...

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June 25, 2023, 05:37:34 AM
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It seems to me that Mbappe cannot be called the captain of the French team just because he is the best player in the team right now... Yes, he does play very well and brilliantly, but he is young, he has little experience and his personal qualities do not allow him to be a captain... Maybe in the future he will become experienced and earn the title of captain, but right now I can't call him that...
Yeah Mbappe is still an emotional kid, he always looking to become a top goal scorer, that's make him prefer to shot even though the chance to score a goal is less than he pass to his teammates. Griezmann should become the captain in France national club since he has been play 9 years for France, the most versatile player and the most matured in France starting line up.
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Technically yeah Norway also play matches against opponents at the same level or even below their level. Those matches are great opportunities for Haaland to increase the number of goals he scored by a huge rate. But he really needs to be very consistent about it. Because if he is out-of-form in even such matches it would be really difficult for him to break Ronaldo's goal record.

But when it comes to Mbappe the situation is a little more different. He is playing for one of the strongest national teams in the world, France. They can literally beat everyone as long as they stay solid. Hence I think Mbappe has a higher probability of scoring more goals than Haaland during his national career as well.
France is a professional level football team while Norway is an irregular team. In Qatar World Cup 2022, we saw that Norway did not qualify for the main stage of the World Cup, but France played the final of the last World Cup, which means that if you look at this statistic, it can be understood that Erling Haaland will not get as much support from his team as Mbappe will get from his team. And if you don't get good support from the team then it is difficult to win the team and also it is difficult to prove yourself worthy. Since there is no other player like Erling Haaland in Norway, Haaland's understanding with other members of the team will not be good, due to which he will not be able to score goals for the team, Mbappe will have a good advantage in this case. Because the team has several experienced players who help Mbappe score goals. In that case, Mbappe should be ahead of Erling Haaland in terms of team aspect.

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Norway could get more points in this group at the end of 4 matches.They managed to beat Cyprus 3-1 but they have less chances to get out of the group than Georgia.Georgia has one match less and it is very strange that Scotland is the leader in the group.I was thinking that Spain will be the leader and Norway will be the second, but it will not be as I expected.Both Spain and Norway have a chance not to get out of the group.

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Norway could get more points in this group at the end of 4 matches.They managed to beat Cyprus 3-1 but they have less chances to get out of the group than Georgia.Georgia has one match less and it is very strange that Scotland is the leader in the group.I was thinking that Spain will be the leader and Norway will be the second, but it will not be as I expected.Both Spain and Norway have a chance not to get out of the group.
Talking about group A currently Scotland is the favourite to qualified and they got 12 points from 4 matches and they even only conceded 1 goal so far and their achievement is much better than Norway or Spain and for Norway i think it's hard for them to qualified because if we see from their last matches Norway has lose from Scotland and Spain although Haaland has been consistent to scores goals but it doesn't help the team to win the match and if i am not mistaken Norway has 4 matches remaining for qualification matches and maybe if they can able to win all of the matches there is a hope for them to qualified but i personally thinking this is very hard to do so and for group A i think the teams who possibly will qualified is Scotland and Spain but for Norway i think their high achievement in this group is only 3rd place

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June 25, 2023, 07:50:22 AM
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Norway could get more points in this group at the end of 4 matches.They managed to beat Cyprus 3-1 but they have less chances to get out of the group than Georgia.Georgia has one match less and it is very strange that Scotland is the leader in the group.I was thinking that Spain will be the leader and Norway will be the second, but it will not be as I expected.Both Spain and Norway have a chance not to get out of the group.
Talking about group A currently Scotland is the favourite to qualified and they got 12 points from 4 matches and they even only conceded 1 goal so far and their achievement is much better than Norway or Spain and for Norway i think it's hard for them to qualified because if we see from their last matches Norway has lose from Scotland and Spain although Haaland has been consistent to scores goals but it doesn't help the team to win the match and if i am not mistaken Norway has 4 matches remaining for qualification matches and maybe if they can able to win all of the matches there is a hope for them to qualified but i personally thinking this is very hard to do so and for group A i think the teams who possibly will qualified is Scotland and Spain but for Norway i think their high achievement in this group is only 3rd place
I think we can say that Scotland is guaranteed to get out of the group.I don't think that this team, which has 4 wins in 4 games and has played a very good game, will lose easily after this.They will definitely go to the matches with more morale and feeling stronger.We are talking about a team that has defeated both Norway and Spain because we are talking about a team that has defeated both Norway and Spain.I absolutely agree.After this time, Scotland will come out of the group as the leader and Spain will finish the group in 2nd place.The other possibilities are more distant ones and I see the possibility of it being low.

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@tiCer personally I feel that Ronaldo should not be recalled for an international match unless it’s his farewell match because there’s not much that he can offer to the team. Furthermore the Portugal coach should move on from the Ronaldo era and start building a team for the future and once again I’ll say that call Ronaldo but only to offer him a farewell nothing more.

@Juggy777 whether you and I like it or not, but Ronaldo has one thing for him going and that is that he still scores goals. And he doesn't score only any trivial goals like the 4-0 in the 80th minute, but the winning goal or the only goal of the game in the last minutes. As long as he can do that, it will be hard to remove him from the national team and again, if he scores those goals there is also not really a reason to remove him. I agree that he doesn't contribute to the team as a whole besides those goals and that works for as long as there is a crisis and he doesn't score this one goal that the needed. I am sure that then the moment will come when the whole team is against him either in the form of being silent and letting him fight the public on his own or by really saying those words against him.

It is already a known fact that when Ronaldo plays, his team always has fewer players in defense because playing in defense does not interest Ronaldo, but only his goals and new records.  Grin
It seems to me that Ronaldo refuses to accept the fact that he is no longer young and does not play at the highest level as he used to, although of course he is still a good striker.
This was especially evident at the world championship in Qatar and directly affected Portugal's poor result.
Ronaldo is not a team player but a great individualist who is not ready to accept any decision of the coach not to play for the national team, which is not good for the whole team.
Portugal was European champion once, but I think they should have done a lot more at the world championships considering the quality of the team.

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June 25, 2023, 02:29:20 PM
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Norway could get more points in this group at the end of 4 matches....

...for group A i think the teams who possibly will qualified is Scotland and Spain but for Norway i think their high achievement in this group is only 3rd place

For me there are no surprises in this group, the two classified will be Scotland and Spain.
Scotland took very well the chance to beat Spain, and the classification has probably already been guaranteed in this match.
As Spain has only played 2 matches, it is a question of time to be in 2nd place.
The only chance for Norway to qualify would be if Spain lost almost all of its games, which I think is very difficult, since the Nations League is over, and now Spain will focus only on the qualifiers, and of course, they are the champions
If Haaland had played against Georgia, Norway would probably win, and would have at least 6 points. That would already be a reason for more hope

For us, there should be good opportunities to bet on Scotland's team

The Norwegian team unfortunately can't keep up with Haaland's good quality and it seems that we won't see him play the Euro or the World Cup probably




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June 25, 2023, 02:49:53 PM
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For us, there should be good opportunities to bet on Scotland's team

The Norwegian team unfortunately can't keep up with Haaland's good quality and it seems that we won't see him play the Euro or the World Cup probably
Scotland will qualify most likely since they started very good. Spain definitely are one of the best teams in this group so their qualification is very high to occur although losing a game. I doubt Norway will qualify with all points they missed.

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June 25, 2023, 04:43:48 PM
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Norway could get more points in this group at the end of 4 matches.They managed to beat Cyprus 3-1 but they have less chances to get out of the group than Georgia.Georgia has one match less and it is very strange that Scotland is the leader in the group.I was thinking that Spain will be the leader and Norway will be the second, but it will not be as I expected.Both Spain and Norway have a chance not to get out of the group.
Talking about group A currently Scotland is the favourite to qualified and they got 12 points from 4 matches and they even only conceded 1 goal so far and their achievement is much better than Norway or Spain and for Norway i think it's hard for them to qualified because if we see from their last matches Norway has lose from Scotland and Spain although Haaland has been consistent to scores goals but it doesn't help the team to win the match and if i am not mistaken Norway has 4 matches remaining for qualification matches and maybe if they can able to win all of the matches there is a hope for them to qualified but i personally thinking this is very hard to do so and for group A i think the teams who possibly will qualified is Scotland and Spain but for Norway i think their high achievement in this group is only 3rd place
The Scottish warriors are on a winning rampage, with four conquests in a row, making it tough for them to lose grip. Their exceptional feats and the resulting morale surge grants them a decisive lead. Toppling Norway and Spain, Scotland has marked itself as a stern challenger.

However, football's winds change abruptly. While Norway's road to qualification seems rocky, four matches can bring a turn of tide. A quartet of wins might just create a ripple. It's ambitious, no doubt, but football has seen bigger overturns.

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June 25, 2023, 06:02:36 PM
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Norway could get more points in this group at the end of 4 matches.They managed to beat Cyprus 3-1 but they have less chances to get out of the group than Georgia.Georgia has one match less and it is very strange that Scotland is the leader in the group.I was thinking that Spain will be the leader and Norway will be the second, but it will not be as I expected.Both Spain and Norway have a chance not to get out of the group.

Spain have 2 games in hand relatively Norway, and after Norway lost to both Scotland and Spain, it seems to me that everything is already clear here. Scotland and Spain will go directly to the Euros, while Norway will try to make it through a murky tournament based on their success in the Nations League. At the moment, I can’t even tell if it can get there or not.

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June 25, 2023, 08:21:58 PM
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Well, they did managed to beat France, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, tied with Croatia. So you can see that they have been doing alright so far with all those big games but then they lost to Faroe Islands, keep that part in mind as well. All in all I am expecting them to get better because they found a good young core that is better than most in this case, and they may do very well, they just need time.

I still think considering they are in Europe and Europe has so many great teams, it's hard for them to crack into that top spot, because usually it's either you gotta be first in the groups, or you play at the playoffs, and every group has at least one great team, and playoffs usually have one or two great teams as well, which makes Turkey fail to qualify as well.

That's true, a top spot in Europe might be an aim that is too high for now. But what does mean for Turkish soccer? Were those years back then lucky coincidences like Greece winning the European tour in 2004? Often times I think that they have brilliant players with great technique and also lots of passion, even when sometimes the emotions are sightly too much sometimes. But losing against Faroe Islands is rough because even on a bad day they should never lose a game against them. They shouldn't even lose a friendly game against them ever. But some teams are struggling and Italy was also one of those teams when they didn't qualify for the World Cup and surprised everyone.

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June 26, 2023, 04:58:04 AM
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I think we can say that Scotland is guaranteed to get out of the group.I don't think that this team, which has 4 wins in 4 games and has played a very good game, will lose easily after this.They will definitely go to the matches with more morale and feeling stronger.We are talking about a team that has defeated both Norway and Spain because we are talking about a team that has defeated both Norway and Spain.I absolutely agree.After this time, Scotland will come out of the group as the leader and Spain will finish the group in 2nd place.The other possibilities are more distant ones and I see the possibility of it being low.
Most likely we will have Scotland as topper of this group and Spain will be on second spot even predictions are not easy because things can change either way with Spain will fight back and have good wins as well but as mentioned already with 4 out of 4 wins and having good form surely give Scotland chance for the stay at the top Norway is again having disappointing end because there is no chance for them to have their spot into top two with this current form.

Scotland is currently at their best and there with 100% result and now most likely they will keep this performance and spot without any problem with most chance just Spain will create some problems, but this is not threat for their spot.

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