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November 26, 2023, 08:48:29 AM |
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Yes, it would be funny to see, for example, Germany winning the group stage against Luxembourg with a score of 20-0 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And I agree that thanks to one meeting, everyone has a chance. Path B will obviously be won by Ukraine, while Path A will see Wales and Poland meet in the final. If it was a Waled vs Poland match then I think it would be a win for Poland. To be honest, I don't understand this Losers Tournament because it's a little difficult for me to understand. But what I know is that this Losers Tournament is about bringing together the best 3 ranked teams and then selecting the 3 teams that will qualify? Correct me if I'm wrong because.
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November 26, 2023, 09:05:13 AM |
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Does anyone know why there is a very interesting situation in some qualifiers groups? I mean for example Georgia have made it to the playoffs despite being behind Norway. The same thing happened for the last-placed team in Group F which are Estonia also. The rules UEFA have determined are just really awkward truthfully. Other than that we can give Ireland's having another opportunity through Nations League as another example too. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Placement into the Losers Tournament is based on the ranking of teams in the Nations League tournament. Yes, this is absurd, but in this way UEFA is trying to add value to this tournament, which everyone has already given up on. I think this has happened because of the FIFA ranking. I think it is like if the team is not above a certain number of ranks, or probably it is because the team is actually behind, in terms of FIFA ranking, is the reason why, even though being above on the table, they have not been able to qualify. Something like that has happened if I am not wrong. That's why a lot of teams are actually getting second chances, even though they should not be qualifying. That's what I think, but of course, correct me if I am wrong. regards duke
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November 26, 2023, 03:02:34 PM |
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Yes, it would be funny to see, for example, Germany winning the group stage against Luxembourg with a score of 20-0 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And I agree that thanks to one meeting, everyone has a chance. Path B will obviously be won by Ukraine, while Path A will see Wales and Poland meet in the final. If it was a Waled vs Poland match then I think it would be a win for Poland. To be honest, I don't understand this Losers Tournament because it's a little difficult for me to understand. But what I know is that this Losers Tournament is about bringing together the best 3 ranked teams and then selecting the 3 teams that will qualify? Correct me if I'm wrong because. I'm not at all confident that Poland will win (although they might be favorites on paper), Santos has lost his luck. As for the details about the tournament of losers, it’s better to look at the wiki, when I figured it out I got a headache. Placement into the Losers Tournament is based on the ranking of teams in the Nations League tournament. Yes, this is absurd, but in this way UEFA is trying to add value to this tournament, which everyone has already given up on.
I think this has happened because of the FIFA ranking. I think it is like if the team is not above a certain number of ranks, or probably it is because the team is actually behind, in terms of FIFA ranking, is the reason why, even though being above on the table, they have not been able to qualify. Something like that has happened if I am not wrong. That's why a lot of teams are actually getting second chances, even though they should not be qualifying. That's what I think, but of course, correct me if I am wrong. regards duke No, FIFA rankings are not taken into account here at all. The only thing that matters is how successful a team is in the Nations League, and given the fact that in the Nations League most of the teams have already received a direct ticket, the algorithm becomes very confusing.
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November 26, 2023, 03:20:54 PM |
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By the way, why is Israel allowed to perform? I thought FIFA was against any country that invaded the other. At least that's what happened with Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine and Russia was literally not allowed to take part in the World Cup. But Israel is literally doing a genocide on Palestine. But no actions are being taken against them.
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They always tag Russia the demons and war criminals but Russia are not doing what Isreal is doing right now, the so call city of God is killing and nuking young children who knows nothing. Maybe this might be their own way of crushing your enemies down to their generation but this is just not good. Isreal are loyalists and allies with Nato and United States of America, who I believe form part of FIFA and also has got hands in them fundings. I don't expect any response from em, they nothing but puppets. How is NATO and them allies not a threat to World Peace? And then to the United Nations, hoe many wars have they waged? Who funds em? Too many politics. I'm at war with my mental and personal development. Have got no time to be involved with World Politics. Good Jeez!
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November 26, 2023, 06:04:47 PM |
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It is time for Italy to finish this job today. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I'm not Italian but I really want to see Italy in Euro 2024. It is nice to have all big national teams in the biggest tournaments. Italy couldn't reach the last World Cup dramatically as you know. I wouldn't like to see a similar scenario happening again for Euro 2024 this time. They did what they had to do against North Macedonia. It was more like they were having revenge on them on one hand. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) After seeing that amazing performance I'm more expectant from Italy against Ukraine. Even one point is enough, yeah. But Italy would play for winning this game as good as possible. I believe that they will do this too. I'm not Italian either, but I would like to see Italy in the Euro, and yes, I still remember that Italy has not managed to qualify, but they are very nice, they are my favorite team in the World Cup, of course, they are a very great team, very good and they can make the difference, Ukraine is a country that is lacking in everything, even a classification, but between these two I prefer Italy to qualify, I see the Utalia game and everyone is very towards the middle of the game, I like it because they have created a very good strategy, the Italians are honestly the best in defense formations, I still think they need someone who has more strength in their attack, because they are very good in terms of physical level and what they can do in each one of our games, but the forward line I think has to be much more radical and more precise, it is for that reason that, having a good taste for football, we know that the Italians play very well, and show very attractive football. Although I am very surprised that a country like Ukraine has such good football, they have made very frontal attacks, and they have actually Changed their way of playing, I think they are more focused on their attack and always try to go forward, they always make The weaknesses recede, and what I like about the Ukrainian games is that they always try to play football that is very focused on the attack, and any mistake they make in defense can undoubtedly produce a good goal, I think that The Iltainians, in their way of playing, know that they are the best in the world, I love their dexterity, this is what I have always seen that characterizes Italian football. It is very difficult and hard to play against the Italians, so We can be accustomed to the fact that an Italins does not perform very well in the 3/4 of the field in defense, they are very good, personally, the style of football that I most admire is the Italian, they have very elegant Football , and in football The one I enjoy the most because they do many different Things is Brazil. Lockyer starts as Wales face Euro 2024 play-off after drawing with Turkey![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F26%2FNuJSo.png&t=665&c=0gldnGtHaz9BVw) Luton defender Tom Lockyer started for Wales as they drew 1-1 at home with Turkey in their final Euro 2024 qualifier at the Cardiff City Stadium on Tuesday night.
Robert Page’s side went into the game knowing that only a victory over the Group D winners and Croatia dropping points at home to Armenia would be enough to secure automatic qualification for the tournament in Germany next year. Source: https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/sport/football/luton-town/lockyer-starts-as-wales-face-euro-2024-play-off-after-drawing-with-turkey-4418384
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November 26, 2023, 06:35:05 PM |
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Yes, it would be funny to see, for example, Germany winning the group stage against Luxembourg with a score of 20-0 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And I agree that thanks to one meeting, everyone has a chance. Path B will obviously be won by Ukraine, while Path A will see Wales and Poland meet in the final. If it was a Waled vs Poland match then I think it would be a win for Poland. To be honest, I don't understand this Losers Tournament because it's a little difficult for me to understand. But what I know is that this Losers Tournament is about bringing together the best 3 ranked teams and then selecting the 3 teams that will qualify? Correct me if I'm wrong because. To pick the favourite teams that'll win the three paths of the UEFA Euro 2024 play-offs I think is quiet simple except that of path A which I think will be a strong battle between Poland and Wales. The two countries are the highest ranked teams in the path A and are very strong sides who will definitely want to make it to the finals next summer. In the path A, I'll be going with Poland to progress to the finals even when I know it'll be a difficult task. In the path B, I think Ukraine I think should be able to progress from the group even when Bosnia-Herzegovina will also do their best to make it to the finals. Lastly, in the path C, Greece should be able to make it to the finals considering the strength of the teams they're gonna face in the playoffs.
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November 26, 2023, 06:47:10 PM |
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I think this has happened because of the FIFA ranking. I think it is like if the team is not above a certain number of ranks, or probably it is because the team is actually behind, in terms of FIFA ranking, is the reason why, even though being above on the table, they have not been able to qualify. Something like that has happened if I am not wrong. That's why a lot of teams are actually getting second chances, even though they should not be qualifying. That's what I think, but of course, correct me if I am wrong.
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UEFA have smart ideas with their regulation for space left trough playoff round qualify to Euro 2024 with UEFA Nation League result achievement, have some tier or level with national teams who get good result on UEFA Nation League will get place trough playoff round to participant on Euro 2024 although they are on the bottom finish on qualifier round. UEFA try to make national team excited for participating on UEFA Nation League, its benefit when have national teams who the tier level from this competition will get special result for participating on Euro 2024. I dislike with this ideas regarding many weakness national teams such as Estonia and Georgia have special thing trough UEFA Nation League achievement although their position not better in qualifying round.
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Germany are really lucky about being the hosting country for Euro 2024 honestly. Otherwise I would doubt their qualification for Euro 2024 quite much. They would have probably had big problems on qualifying for it directly and move on with the playoff round instead. Even in the playoffs their situation would be open for a surprise.
Because I liken their current condition to Italy in the latest World Cup qualifiers. You know how bad Italy's journey there finished.
The same thing might have happened to Germany also here. Because Germany are still far away from their good old days.
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November 27, 2023, 12:06:18 PM |
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Germany are really lucky about being the hosting country for Euro 2024 honestly. Otherwise I would doubt their qualification for Euro 2024 quite much. They would have probably had big problems on qualifying for it directly and move on with the playoff round instead. Even in the playoffs their situation would be open for a surprise.
Because I liken their current condition to Italy in the latest World Cup qualifiers. You know how bad Italy's journey there finished.
The same thing might have happened to Germany also here. Because Germany are still far away from their good old days.
Are you joking? Almost all groups of the qualifying tournament were easy for the favorites, and Germany, with a draw, would have been in the first pot 100%, so there was simply no chance of getting into a difficult group. Even if Germany ended up in a group like B or C, it would be a question of “first or second place,” but not a question of whether Germany could qualify.
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November 27, 2023, 01:57:09 PM |
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If it was a Waled vs Poland match then I think it would be a win for Poland. To be honest, I don't understand this Losers Tournament because it's a little difficult for me to understand. But what I know is that this Losers Tournament is about bringing together the best 3 ranked teams and then selecting the 3 teams that will qualify? Correct me if I'm wrong because.
I'm not at all confident that Poland will win (although they might be favorites on paper), Santos has lost his luck. As for the details about the tournament of losers, it’s better to look at the wiki, when I figured it out I got a headache. Isn't it clear that looking at the history of their previous meetings, Poland has always managed to beat Wales. But no one knows what the future will be like. Talking about Poland and your words about Santos losing luck made me suddenly remember how Fernando Santos failed with Poland and he was the only person to blame. ~snip~
No, FIFA rankings are not taken into account here at all. The only thing that matters is how successful a team is in the Nations League, and given the fact that in the Nations League most of the teams have already received a direct ticket, the algorithm becomes very confusing. That true because the Euro is not like the World Cup which is influenced by FIFA rankings and indeed for the Euro one of thing that can determine whether get tickets to be able to take part in this competition is based on the results in the Nations League. I don't know how this can happen, but looking at the results of the Nations League it will be much better because the FIFA rankings also cannot ensure that the teams that qualify are those who are truly worthy of each competition.
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I'm not at all confident that Poland will win (although they might be favorites on paper), Santos has lost his luck. As for the details about the tournament of losers, it’s better to look at the wiki, when I figured it out I got a headache.
Isn't it clear that looking at the history of their previous meetings, Poland has always managed to beat Wales. But no one knows what the future will be like. Talking about Poland and your words about Santos losing luck made me suddenly remember how Fernando Santos failed with Poland and he was the only person to blame. ~ If history played on the field, we would know the results of many games/tournaments in advance and would never have seen the rise of such teams as Greece, etc. I'm really not sure about Poland although they are the favourites. As for Santos’s failures, perhaps you didn’t mean Poland, but Portugal? Well, basically, who else could be blamed for ruining relationships within the team (without achieving results)?
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November 27, 2023, 07:24:06 PM |
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Germany are really lucky about being the hosting country for Euro 2024 honestly. Otherwise I would doubt their qualification for Euro 2024 quite much. They would have probably had big problems on qualifying for it directly and move on with the playoff round instead. Even in the playoffs their situation would be open for a surprise.
Because I liken their current condition to Italy in the latest World Cup qualifiers. You know how bad Italy's journey there finished.
The same thing might have happened to Germany also here. Because Germany are still far away from their good old days.
Are you joking? Almost all groups of the qualifying tournament were easy for the favorites, and Germany, with a draw, would have been in the first pot 100%, so there was simply no chance of getting into a difficult group. Even if Germany ended up in a group like B or C, it would be a question of “first or second place,” but not a question of whether Germany could qualify. No, I'm not joking at all. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You must have seen Germany struggling for a long time. They were below the expectations in the last World Cup first of all. They have played so many friendlies after that and the overall look is just horrible honestly. Maybe you might say that friendlies doesn't show the real strength of teams. However their World Cup performance wasn't good either like I said. As for the easiness of Euro 2024 qualifiers groups it is mostly really easy for the favourites like you said. However if Germany were in one of the tougher groups I would doubt their direct qualification a lot. For example if Germany were in Group C instead of Italy then I think they could have finished in 3rd place. Because I think that Italy are performing better than Germany now.
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If history played on the field, we would know the results of many games/tournaments in advance and would never have seen the rise of such teams as Greece, etc. I'm really not sure about Poland although they are the favourites. As for Santos’s failures, perhaps you didn’t mean Poland, but Portugal? Well, basically, who else could be blamed for ruining relationships within the team (without achieving results)?
The team's mentioned above are favorites but I'm sticking with Portugal because I'm acquainted with the team's pattern of game, their style is exceptionally different from the rest. Portugal remain the only team that happens to be my favorite when it comes to game pattern during international major tournaments. They have all the high quality players anyone could think of and sometimes I wonder how they don't go far when it comes to major tournaments. Imagine a team that has Cristiano Ronaldo in the frontline and Bruno Fernandes in the midfield, we expects the firing squad to win any game without having to experience any difficulties.
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The team's mentioned above are favorites but I'm sticking with Portugal because I'm acquainted with the team's pattern of game, their style is exceptionally different from the rest. Portugal remain the only team that happens to be my favorite when it comes to game pattern during international major tournaments. They have all the high quality players anyone could think of and sometimes I wonder how they don't go far when it comes to major tournaments. Imagine a team that has Cristiano Ronaldo in the frontline and Bruno Fernandes in the midfield, we expects the firing squad to win any game without having to experience any difficulties.
Portugal is still dependent to a great degree on Cristiano Ronaldo. If he is not playing, they struggle to win against even second tier teams. And we saw this during the 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar. Portugal do have some promising young players. But they are inconsistent and crack under pressure. My guess is that they will not be ready by the time of the 2024 Euro Cup, although 2026 FIFA World Cup looks like a fair target. And now Ronaldo's fitness comes in to question. He looks 100% fit now, but let's not forget the fact that he is 38 years old. Given all this, I would not consider Portugal as one of the favorites.
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Are you joking? Almost all groups of the qualifying tournament were easy for the favorites, and Germany, with a draw, would have been in the first pot 100%, so there was simply no chance of getting into a difficult group. Even if Germany ended up in a group like B or C, it would be a question of “first or second place,” but not a question of whether Germany could qualify.
No, I'm not joking at all. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You must have seen Germany struggling for a long time. They were below the expectations in the last World Cup first of all. They have played so many friendlies after that and the overall look is just horrible honestly. Maybe you might say that friendlies doesn't show the real strength of teams. However their World Cup performance wasn't good either like I said. As for the easiness of Euro 2024 qualifiers groups it is mostly really easy for the favourites like you said. However if Germany were in one of the tougher groups I would doubt their direct qualification a lot. For example if Germany were in Group C instead of Italy then I think they could have finished in 3rd place. Because I think that Italy are performing better than Germany now. Germany's results at the last major tournaments look terrible, primarily because the bar for expectations from them is very high. Yes, they are not the same as they were before, but they are definitely in the top group. By the way, any team from the top group can fail - for example, France, being world champions, could not beat Switzerland in the 1/8 at Euro 2020 and dropped out of the tournament. As for strength, here are the official games in the League of Nations: Germany has only one defeat in the group with Italy and England (from Hungary haha). Considering that England are now among the favorites in every tournament, this is significant.
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No, I'm not joking at all. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You must have seen Germany struggling for a long time. They were below the expectations in the last World Cup first of all. They have played so many friendlies after that and the overall look is just horrible honestly. Maybe you might say that friendlies doesn't show the real strength of teams. However their World Cup performance wasn't good either like I said. As for the easiness of Euro 2024 qualifiers groups it is mostly really easy for the favourites like you said. However if Germany were in one of the tougher groups I would doubt their direct qualification a lot. For example if Germany were in Group C instead of Italy then I think they could have finished in 3rd place. Because I think that Italy are performing better than Germany now. Germany's results at the last major tournaments look terrible, primarily because the bar for expectations from them is very high. Yes, they are not the same as they were before, but they are definitely in the top group. By the way, any team from the top group can fail - for example, France, being world champions, could not beat Switzerland in the 1/8 at Euro 2020 and dropped out of the tournament. As for strength, here are the official games in the League of Nations: Germany has only one defeat in the group with Italy and England (from Hungary haha). Considering that England are now among the favorites in every tournament, this is significant. The Germany that we used to love, the current Germany is not the same anymore. Yes, there are a few players who are really good in the squad. But that is not going to be enough for any team to win a major trophy. And obviously, the current Germany team has some problems. To put it simply, the team is just not working. And the performance of the Germany team has definitely not been up to the mark. That's even if we do not count the friendly matches.
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I'm wondering what Belgium will do in Euro 2024. In the qualifiers stage their group was too easy and they showed it by their high level performance as well. They completed this stage by only a loss of 2 points.
Lukaku shined in this stage by incredible amount of goals. He has nearly 2.00 goal average per match. This is very impressive because we don't see the same kind of performance from him at Roma. This huge productivity would be expected in Euro 2024 as well. If he keeps this level there as well Belgium can really be one of top contenders. De Bruyne's returnal can also play a crucial role.
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I'm wondering what Belgium will do in Euro 2024. In the qualifiers stage their group was too easy and they showed it by their high level performance as well. They completed this stage by only a loss of 2 points.
Lukaku shined in this stage by incredible amount of goals. He has nearly 2.00 goal average per match. This is very impressive because we don't see the same kind of performance from him at Roma. This huge productivity would be expected in Euro 2024 as well. If he keeps this level there as well Belgium can really be one of top contenders. De Bruyne's returnal can also play a crucial role.
Lukaku is definitely very underrated when it comes to international competitions. I think sometimes teams forget that he was a very good striker, even a few years ago, actually one of the best strikers a few years ago and now he is still capable of performing really well. Probably because of his past few seasons, are really underwhelming, people do not give him the importance that he needs. And at the same time, he also takes advantage of that properly. I think he alongside his team is going to perform well in this competition. But they will also have to understand that the competition is only going to get harder.
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November 29, 2023, 10:01:41 PM |
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Germany's results at the last major tournaments look terrible, primarily because the bar for expectations from them is very high. Yes, they are not the same as they were before, but they are definitely in the top group. By the way, any team from the top group can fail - for example, France, being world champions, could not beat Switzerland in the 1/8 at Euro 2020 and dropped out of the tournament.
As for strength, here are the official games in the League of Nations: Germany has only one defeat in the group with Italy and England (from Hungary haha). Considering that England are now among the favorites in every tournament, this is significant.
The Germany that we used to love, the current Germany is not the same anymore. Yes, there are a few players who are really good in the squad. But that is not going to be enough for any team to win a major trophy. And obviously, the current Germany team has some problems. To put it simply, the team is just not working. And the performance of the Germany team has definitely not been up to the mark. That's even if we do not count the friendly matches. Even the Greek national team won the Euro (or in the past you can remember Denmark), has Germany really become weaker than such tenacious but average teams? I doubt it. Belgium had a whole golden generation (which is about to end or has already ended, according to the KDB), but they did not win anything at all. A lot is decided by randomness and if tomorrow Germany wins gold they will begin to praise it to the skies even though it will be the same team as today.
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Hirose UK
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I'm not at all confident that Poland will win (although they might be favorites on paper), Santos has lost his luck. As for the details about the tournament of losers, it’s better to look at the wiki, when I figured it out I got a headache.
Isn't it clear that looking at the history of their previous meetings, Poland has always managed to beat Wales. But no one knows what the future will be like. Talking about Poland and your words about Santos losing luck made me suddenly remember how Fernando Santos failed with Poland and he was the only person to blame. ~ If history played on the field, we would know the results of many games/tournaments in advance and would never have seen the rise of such teams as Greece, etc. I'm really not sure about Poland although they are the favourites. As for Santos’s failures, perhaps you didn’t mean Poland, but Portugal? Well, basically, who else could be blamed for ruining relationships within the team (without achieving results)? Indeed, when we look at history there will be quite lot of matches where perhaps we will also know how these teams developed in the past. But Poland is really the favorite and they managed to get win in their last match against Latvia, after all there is Lewandowski who can always give his best performance for Poland. No, not Portugal but indeed about Poland because with Portugal he managed to become quite great coach and really worked for long time, namely 8 years. Together with Poland, who led 6 matches and only got 3 wins, this meant that Poland could only occupy 4th place in Group E qualifying for Euro 2024.
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