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Lukaku is definitely very underrated when it comes to international competitions. I think sometimes teams forget that he was a very good striker, even a few years ago, actually one of the best strikers a few years ago and now he is still capable of performing really well. Probably because of his past few seasons, are really underwhelming, people do not give him the importance that he needs. And at the same time, he also takes advantage of that properly. I think he alongside his team is going to perform well in this competition. But they will also have to understand that the competition is only going to get harder.
One word for Lukakau "amazing", success become top scorer in Euro qualifier after scoring 14 goals and have 4 goals more from Cristiano Ronaldo scored 10 goals. I think he will be candidate top scorer on Euro 2024 but need waiting for when drawing group begin to see how potential for Lukaku scoring as many possibility goals. Impressive performance from Lukaku not only with his national team Belgium but also he has quit well performance with AS Roma. I hope until the end this season he not get injury with his club and keep impressive performance until playing for Belgium on Euro 2024. I doubt with Belgium will get good result regarding last several edition failed to final stage, I hope in this Euro edition Belgium can lead until semifinal stage and chance the tradition with top European teams such as France, Italy, England or Germany on semifinal or final stage.
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Even the Greek national team won the Euro (or in the past you can remember Denmark), has Germany really become weaker than such tenacious but average teams? I doubt it. Belgium had a whole golden generation (which is about to end or has already ended, according to the KDB), but they did not win anything at all. A lot is decided by randomness and if tomorrow Germany wins gold they will begin to praise it to the skies even though it will be the same team as today.
Not an apple-to-apple comparison. Greece might have win the Euro Cup in the past. But they never managed to get to the top-5 list in FIFA rankings. The peak they reached was when they were ranked #8 in 2008. On the other hand, Germany was always regarded as one of the powerhouses in football along with England and France in Europe. Even as late as 2018, they were the no.1 ranked team as per FIFA. From that position, their rapid downfall has been nothing short of unbelievable. And currently they are not even in top-10 (current rank is #16 as per FIFA).
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November 30, 2023, 06:54:13 AM |
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Even the Greek national team won the Euro (or in the past you can remember Denmark), has Germany really become weaker than such tenacious but average teams? I doubt it. Belgium had a whole golden generation (which is about to end or has already ended, according to the KDB), but they did not win anything at all. A lot is decided by randomness and if tomorrow Germany wins gold they will begin to praise it to the skies even though it will be the same team as today.
Not an apple-to-apple comparison. Greece might have win the Euro Cup in the past. But they never managed to get to the top-5 list in FIFA rankings. The peak they reached was when they were ranked #8 in 2008. On the other hand, Germany was always regarded as one of the powerhouses in football along with England and France in Europe. Even as late as 2018, they were the no.1 ranked team as per FIFA. From that position, their rapid downfall has been nothing short of unbelievable. And currently they are not even in top-10 (current rank is #16 as per FIFA). Germany has seen its best players retiring too and the new generation needs a bit of time to be able to compete with the other nations. Same goes for Italy and Spain. The only difference is that Spain was able to recover its form fast while Italy and Germany need more time. The regeneration phase is longer in these nations. Belgium was classed first mainly because of the players they had but they weren't so impressive in picking a World Cup for example. For Greece, like any other country, they got a shot and were successful but it was just a shot. It is like Porto winning Champions League with Mourinho long time ago.
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November 30, 2023, 07:44:48 AM |
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Belgium really couldn't take advantage of a golden generation so far. They literally have only one achievement in their history which is an Olympic championship in 1920. This team have a much bigger potential normally. Especially in Euro rather than World Cup they can be more successful. It isn't impossible for them to win a title despite the existence of very challenging opponents. They just need a good system and management.
However we just can't see these needed elements for a long time. By the way the tension among the players must also have been a hindrance for them once. Because it was like every player had a fight with someone in the squad before.
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November 30, 2023, 08:49:34 AM |
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Germany has seen its best players retiring too and the new generation needs a bit of time to be able to compete with the other nations. Same goes for Italy and Spain. The only difference is that Spain was able to recover its form fast while Italy and Germany need more time. The regeneration phase is longer in these nations. Belgium was classed first mainly because of the players they had but they weren't so impressive in picking a World Cup for example. For Greece, like any other country, they got a shot and were successful but it was just a shot. It is like Porto winning Champions League with Mourinho long time ago.
Players come and go all the time. France recovered pretty well from the retirement of Thierry Henry, Nicolas Anelka and Franck Ribéry. The same can be said about England after the departure of Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Wayne Rooney. The problem with Germany is that they don't have younger players coming through the ranks. The quality of the national league (Bundesliga) is declining and that maybe one of the reasons. We can't also ignore the demographics. Germany is a rapidly ageing country.
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Germany has seen its best players retiring too and the new generation needs a bit of time to be able to compete with the other nations. Same goes for Italy and Spain. The only difference is that Spain was able to recover its form fast while Italy and Germany need more time. The regeneration phase is longer in these nations. Belgium was classed first mainly because of the players they had but they weren't so impressive in picking a World Cup for example. For Greece, like any other country, they got a shot and were successful but it was just a shot. It is like Porto winning Champions League with Mourinho long time ago.
Players come and go all the time. France recovered pretty well from the retirement of Thierry Henry, Nicolas Anelka and Franck Ribéry. The same can be said about England after the departure of Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Wayne Rooney. The problem with Germany is that they don't have younger players coming through the ranks. The quality of the national league (Bundesliga) is declining and that maybe one of the reasons. We can't also ignore the demographics. Germany is a rapidly ageing country. @Sithara007 France was blessed with many talented player’s and they had enough luck to help them achieve their goals but Italy surprisingly lost the plot. Lastly England was always favoured to do well because of premier league rules to keep local player’s in the squad and many even attracted outside leagues attention and further grew themselves which is helping England now e.g. Jude.
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Even the Greek national team won the Euro (or in the past you can remember Denmark), has Germany really become weaker than such tenacious but average teams? I doubt it. Belgium had a whole golden generation (which is about to end or has already ended, according to the KDB), but they did not win anything at all. A lot is decided by randomness and if tomorrow Germany wins gold they will begin to praise it to the skies even though it will be the same team as today.
Not an apple-to-apple comparison. Greece might have win the Euro Cup in the past. But they never managed to get to the top-5 list in FIFA rankings. The peak they reached was when they were ranked #8 in 2008. On the other hand, Germany was always regarded as one of the powerhouses in football along with England and France in Europe. Even as late as 2018, they were the no.1 ranked team as per FIFA. From that position, their rapid downfall has been nothing short of unbelievable. And currently they are not even in top-10 (current rank is #16 as per FIFA). Do you want to say that Germany has already fallen below the "that" Greece and so low that they cannot claim the title? My point of view is precisely that although Germany has fallen, but from the area where it now also sometimes champions comes out. In addition, we must expect a return to the average from Germany. Plus, taking into account the fact that the number of shitty tournaments has increased and led to the fact that the ratings have lost their at least some accuracy, I would not rely on them.
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Honestly France "recovery" isn't even recovery ,they have found a golden generation that may win everything, I am expecting them to win the euro cup as well, it will be in Germany so it is close to them as well, nearly home court, and I think it is going to be fair to say that we are talking about a situation where they won the world cup, and finalist once, and they may win the next world cup considering everyone's age as well.
France has built a squad that is both young and already getting titles and for at least 2 more world cups and 2 more euro cups, they are going to end up being good. Maybe things will not be all that easy and maybe there will be a situation where it is going to end up with something that might create some issues eventually.
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Do you want to say that Germany has already fallen below the "that" Greece and so low that they cannot claim the title? My point of view is precisely that although Germany has fallen, but from the area where it now also sometimes champions comes out. In addition, we must expect a return to the average from Germany. Plus, taking into account the fact that the number of shitty tournaments has increased and led to the fact that the ratings have lost their at least some accuracy, I would not rely on them.
Agreed on the accuracy of rankings. Sometimes I find it very odd and difficult to agree to. But then, there is no doubt that Germany has been on the decline for more than a decade. Very few European teams have maintained their quality and in my mind only England and France are there. Spain and Italy are in rebuilding phase, so I would rather not comment on them. Others such as Danmark, Netherlands, Germany, Greece, Belgium, Serbia, Switzerland and Sweden has been on the rapid decline for the last several years.
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Honestly France "recovery" isn't even recovery ,they have found a golden generation that may win everything, I am expecting them to win the euro cup as well, it will be in Germany so it is close to them as well, nearly home court, and I think it is going to be fair to say that we are talking about a situation where they won the world cup, and finalist once, and they may win the next world cup considering everyone's age as well.
France has built a squad that is both young and already getting titles and for at least 2 more world cups and 2 more euro cups, they are going to end up being good. Maybe things will not be all that easy and maybe there will be a situation where it is going to end up with something that might create some issues eventually.
The squad of France is really good. And they have the capability of winning a lot of things. If France can actually take care of the players and nurture them properly. And they also have to take care of the player's health. They also have to be careful that no player does something like Paul Pogba did. Because that is going to finish anyone's career. But anyway players don't do that regularly. I mean players don't get caught doing drugs or something regularly. But whatever happens, there is no excuse for taking drugs. And if you are playing as a professional player, you are already privileged. So there is no excuse for especially players.
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Do you want to say that Germany has already fallen below the "that" Greece and so low that they cannot claim the title? My point of view is precisely that although Germany has fallen, but from the area where it now also sometimes champions comes out. In addition, we must expect a return to the average from Germany. Plus, taking into account the fact that the number of shitty tournaments has increased and led to the fact that the ratings have lost their at least some accuracy, I would not rely on them.
Agreed on the accuracy of rankings. Sometimes I find it very odd and difficult to agree to. But then, there is no doubt that Germany has been on the decline for more than a decade. Very few European teams have maintained their quality and in my mind only England and France are there. Spain and Italy are in rebuilding phase, so I would rather not comment on them. Others such as Danmark, Netherlands, Germany, Greece, Belgium, Serbia, Switzerland and Sweden has been on the rapid decline for the last several years. I think that Belgium has a recession ahead, the current generation (which was considered golden) has not yet left and theoretically they still have a couple of tournaments to show themselves. The fact that Belgium does not win anything is a random question, as they play well. I think that Portugal unexpectedly went through the restructuring phase without a decline - they have a lot of young players and when the last guards leave (Ronaldo, Pepe) the team will not weaken.
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I think that Belgium has a recession ahead, the current generation (which was considered golden) has not yet left and theoretically they still have a couple of tournaments to show themselves. The fact that Belgium does not win anything is a random question, as they play well. I think that Portugal unexpectedly went through the restructuring phase without a decline - they have a lot of young players and when the last guards leave (Ronaldo, Pepe) the team will not weaken. Look at the Euro qualifiers. If you take out Romelu Lukaku, then Belgium would be a big zero. Out of a total of 22 goals scored by Belgium in Group F, 14 (or close to 2/3rd) were scored by Lukaku. In the second place they have Dodi Lukebakio and Leandro Trossard, who scored 2 goals each. Lukaku has 6-7 years of quality football left with him. But what will happen if he gets injured or goes out of form? Also, many members of the Belgian national squad are close to retirement. I am talking about Jan Vertonghen, Dries Mertens and Axel Witsel.
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They literally have only one achievement in their history which is an Olympic championship in 1920. What about being 3rd in Russia back in 2018, that doesn't count as success? Especially in Euro rather than World Cup they can be more successful. It isn't impossible for them to win a title despite the existence of very challenging opponents. management. Before EURO expanded to 24 teams, it was arguably even harder to reach later stages than in WC as in order to even get out of the group you have to beat some serious teams. For example, Belgium could end up in a group with Denmark, Croatia and Italy, where basically any team can move further while in WX you always have at least 1 team in a group that is total outsider.
By the way, today at 17:00 there will be EURO draw. For those who want to play with possible draws, you can try Interactive UEFA EURO 2024 Draw Simulator where you can make a draw based on variopus parameters. For Croatia, I woulnd't mind us getting in a group with Germany, Albania and Poland.
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I think that Turkey have a really nice draw. Portugal are going to be a very challenging team to beat that's for certain. However at least one team were going to be a tough one so here we are. Portugal had a great qualifier journey but their group was really easy on one hand.
We will see their real strength in Euro 2024. But with a Ronaldo who is playing very ambitiously they would definitely be one of title contenders.
Czech Republic are an average team now. They are a team that Turkey can beat in my opinion. The last team haven't been decided yet but hopefully there wouldn't be another very strong team like Portugal.
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Ouch - really a tough group for us. Italy is not that good - but I feel that we aren't as well. We have traditionally played well against them - but looking at our team, I don't recall us being this weak since the 2002-2004 period. We have 2 outstanding players in Kovačić and Gvardiol but it probably won't be enough to pass the group stage this time. Overall the team is old, lacks quality, width, depth and speed and plays football that died 20 years ago.
We can still squeeze through, of course. But I'm not confident at all.
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...//::: GB; It is without a doubt the most interesting group of all. I think that around these parts we really like Croatia since that era that Suker led and that began the base generation until these last years, it is incredible to think that that glorious era of Croatia is coming to an end.
The replacement generations are undoubtedly the basis of any sports management in football, and it is up to the administrators or bureaucrats to take care of it. It is ironic to think that the player who certainly started this whole revolution in Croatian football is the president of the Croatian football league, and!, is not reflecting that generation of replacement in its management.
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Spain,Italy,Croatia and the newcomers Albania who are only here for the second time in the same group,what the f*ck UEFA,Italy should have not been in the Pot 4 as all social media is boiling or was boiling with posts good luck with the ones who will get Italy as a Pot 4 team.This is a group of hell for Albania and if they get one single point in here that would be a huge success and achievement for them,they are playing against World Champions or at a minimum a finalist in the World Cup meanwhile they don't have this experience,would be fun to watch these games.
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December 02, 2023, 08:36:20 PM |
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Group E is a very nice one! Romania really has a chance to actually qualify further because neither Belgium or Slovakia have a strong team right now and this is a perfect moment for us to speculate this and actually try to win against them. Group B is the most stacked one and is really hard to put a favorite between Spain , Italy and Croatia as well but I can't wait for summer to see how this group will evolve and who will manage to qualify further ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 03, 2023, 12:18:33 AM |
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I'm wondering what Belgium will do in Euro 2024. In the qualifiers stage their group was too easy and they showed it by their high level performance as well. They completed this stage by only a loss of 2 points.
Lukaku shined in this stage by incredible amount of goals. He has nearly 2.00 goal average per match. This is very impressive because we don't see the same kind of performance from him at Roma. This huge productivity would be expected in Euro 2024 as well. If he keeps this level there as well Belgium can really be one of top contenders. De Bruyne's returnal can also play a crucial role.
I think that Germany must give many surprises, it is one of the best teams they have to demogtrwar their football, I personally think that they will give everything of themselves to do the best they can, I think that things can happen in favor of Germany, they have to play with tiodo, elops for me have always played very well, but they have great competition, Portugal for me is one of the best teams that are in the Euro, also the red devils of Belgium can make a difference, this is something that I like it, because I haven't seen that they have done a good job, but if they are going to demonstrate football that they failed to demonstrate in the World Cup in Qatar, then I would be very pleased, because they have a very good team, and as I said, Lukaku for me is a very good player, I have a lot to expect from these teams, I am curious about how Italiaalia is doing, which has cost them so much for the classifications, I don't understand it, they are a team that is very good, and they have everything to give, for me this is one of the best in the world, but they have not been able to prove it. Now things for me, when I think about Italy I don't forget the image of Buffon hoping that they do well for their classification that was very hard, but the rested face that they were well classified is something that gave many people peace of mind, I I think that things should always be done in a good way so that they can make a difference, I hope to see a very exciting Euro, my favorite team is without a doubt Portugal and Italy, I hope that both go very far, and that both teams deserve a joy For their countries, I think these things are going to happen well, in 2024 there are going to be great matches, very good football and good things that they don't have prepared, I think that France is still a great asset to winning the Euro, because they have high-quality players, and although I would like Caoch to be Zidana, I don't know how much Deschamps can do this time.
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