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Author Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL  (Read 46375 times)
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December 03, 2023, 10:22:51 AM
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Spain,Italy,Croatia and the newcomers Albania who are only here for the second time in the same group,what the f*ck UEFA,Italy should have not been in the Pot 4 as all social media is boiling or was boiling with posts good luck with the ones who will get Italy as a Pot 4 team.This is a group of hell for Albania and if they get one single point in here that would be a huge success and achievement for them,they are playing against World Champions or at a minimum a finalist in the World Cup meanwhile they don't have this experience,would be fun to watch these games.
These things were bound to happen, thanks to the new way UEFA drew groups. Icing on cake is that now we have 2 weak groups too (groups E and F). UEFA is really doing its best to ruind the most interesting championship as with 16 teams and with the old draw no groups were weak.



We can still squeeze through, of course. But I'm not confident at all.
I kinda like the group, even though its the hardest one as we usually play good against good teams. If we don't ge out of the group it won't be a disaster while if we do, at least we can't play against (afaik) some of the strongest teams till the semi-finals. 

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December 03, 2023, 06:04:42 PM
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I kinda like the group, even though its the hardest one as we usually play good against good teams. If we don't ge out of the group it won't be a disaster while if we do, at least we can't play against (afaik) some of the strongest teams till the semi-finals. 

I like it as well, it will be more fun. I just don't think we'll go through. Then again, I wasn't optimistic no matter which group we got.
If the schedule is already accurate, it might work in our favor that Italy - Spain is the 2nd game of the group - they won't be able to calculate.

It will be crucial for all teams to beat Albania - and I have a feeling they'll take points off someone. Just hope it won't be us.

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December 03, 2023, 08:45:50 PM
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I like it as well, it will be more fun. I just don't think we'll go through. Then again, I wasn't optimistic no matter which group we got.
If it was the old system then yes, chances for us reaching 2nd stage woulnd't be good. But, since 4 3rd placed teams go to 1/8 final as well, win vs Albania + 1 point vs (more likely) Italy could be enough and that sounds doable, if Perisic recovers in time and we don't have any more injuries. I wonder whether Dalic contacted Rakitic since he said in one interview that he is willing to come back if needed.


Then again, I wasn't optimistic no matter which group we got
Be honest, where you optimistic before 2018 and 2022 WC? I surely wasn't. Last time I was optimistic was for 2016 EURO when we played some good football (despite Cacic) and I thought that we have the quality to be champions and if we had a little bit more luck vs Portugal in 1/4, (imho) we would be.








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December 03, 2023, 09:15:22 PM
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Be honest, where you optimistic before 2018 and 2022 WC? I surely wasn't. Last time I was optimistic was for 2016 EURO when we played some good football (despite Cacic) and I thought that we have the quality to be champions and if we had a little bit more luck vs Portugal in 1/4, (imho) we would be.

Nope, of course not. But then we had a great midfield trio at least, and I still feel we grinded it out more than we actually deserved it.
We're pushing our luck for way too long - and there are many more games that I feel we've won that we should have lost than the other way around.

We're ready for some sobering up - and I think we get it in Germany.

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December 04, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
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Nope, of course not. But then we had a great midfield trio at least, and I still feel we grinded it out more than we actually deserved it.
We definitely overachieved in the last two World Cups but just because we grinded it doesn't mean that we didn't deserve it. In the same way I think that Greece winning 2004 Euro was well deserved and the more time passes, the more I appreciate their achievement.


We're pushing our luck for way too long - and there are many more games that I feel we've won that we should have lost than the other way around.
Once or twice is luck, but when you consistently win close games then it becomes something else. The opposite case is our national basketball team.


We're ready for some sobering up - and I think we get it in Germany.
Sobering up already happened in those qualification games vs Wales and Turkey (for anyone still thinking that we are powerhouse) so I don't think that anyone is expecting us to do much next year. Well, at least not those who are actually following us closely (and fans in Croatia ofc) while I noticed foreign football fans still are thinking that we are much stronger than we actually are.  

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Indeed, when we look at history there will be quite lot of matches where perhaps we will also know how these teams developed in the past.
But Poland is really the favorite and they managed to get win in their last match against Latvia, after all there is Lewandowski who can always give his best performance for Poland.

No, not Portugal but indeed about Poland because with Portugal he managed to become quite great coach and really worked for long time, namely 8 years.
Together with Poland, who led 6 matches and only got 3 wins, this meant that Poland could only occupy 4th place in Group E qualifying for Euro 2024.

The past will teach us how to play the game with more responsibility,because as we know the most of the time the particular team will keep their own game over a period of time.Poland is the same team which had a potential to keep their good game in the last match against the Latvia.Because this match was the winning match for the poland.Lewandowski was the toughest competition for the poland till now.Because of the forth position in the Group E allow the poland to qualify for the Euro 2024 league.As like the Portugal and Argentina game, the poland also the strongest team in the Euro 2024 league.This Euro 2024 had huge fans welcome game from this year.We should wait to see the performance of the Poland in the Euro 2024.
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December 05, 2023, 09:19:16 PM
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EURO 2024 groups is set. Now it looks thatGroup B can be called as death group - 2020 Champions Italy, Spain with their new generation and always good Croatia. It will be big surprise if Albania will manage to get a point there Cheesy. Group D also looking very interesting, especially if Poland will qualify from playoffs. Hosts Germany didn't got most difficult group, but when you see how they're playing recently, it willl be tough. Scotland, Hungary and Switzerland isn't easy walk in park.
I would also say that Group B is the best, but also Group D with France and Holland are nice. But it has to be the same, actually all the games should be top games when I look at the ticket prices at the moment. In Germany, a game in the first few days of the European Championship is tradet at 350-600$. The opening game for around 800$ per ticket. The party is already starting and many people in Germany want to see the game live.

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December 06, 2023, 01:56:30 AM
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Taking a quick look at the Euro 2024 groups, I have a few observations:
* Group A doesn't offer much to discuss, as host Germany has a relatively easy group with Scotland, Hungary, and Switzerland. Despite Germany's current weaker version, given the home advantage, it shouldn't be too challenging for them to dominate this group.
* Group B is the group of death with the presence of defending champions Italy, Spain, Croatia, and underdog Albania. It's undoubtedly the most mentally challenging and intriguing group of the tournament. Spain might be the highest-rated team in this group with their current star-studded lineup. However, Croatia always proves to be a formidable opponent in major tournaments, even though their squad has aged. Italy, after their Euro 2020 triumph, is not to be underestimated. Albania, theoretically the weakest in the group, has shown potential in the qualifiers, posing a significant threat and potential surprises for the giants in this group.
* Group C is also interesting, with the star-studded England facing Denmark, Serbia, and Slovenia. Naturally, England is the highest-rated team expected to advance. However, Denmark is a formidable opponent with a lineup featuring stars from major tournaments. The playing styles of Denmark, along with Serbia and Slovenia, are considered tough and uncomfortable. It won't be easy for England's squad to dominate this group.
* Group D is seen as the second group of death with the presence of France and the Netherlands. France is rated higher than the Netherlands, considering their recent head-to-head performances. The Netherlands also has a good chance to advance as the remaining teams are Austria and a team from playoff branch A, likely to be Poland.
* Group E doesn't offer much to discuss with Belgium, a team that has passed its peak, facing Slovakia, Romania, and a playoff team from branch B.
* Lastly, Group F focuses on Portugal with Ronaldo. It shouldn't be too challenging for Ronaldo, in top form, and his teammates to surpass Czechia, Turkey, and a playoff team from branch C.
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December 06, 2023, 10:16:40 AM
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^^^ LOL.. Germany has been placed in the easiest possible group. Scotland did well during the qualifiers, but they are not considered as one of the strongest teams in UEFA. The other two teams (Hungary and Switzerland) in Group A doesn't have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stage. On the other hand, Group B is extremely tough with three very strong teams - Spain, Croatia and Italy. Still we don't have the complete picture yet, as the qualifying playoffs are not yet complete. There is a chance that teams like Iceland and Ukraine may qualify.

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December 06, 2023, 03:51:10 PM
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Spain,Italy,Croatia and the newcomers Albania who are only here for the second time in the same group,what the f*ck UEFA,Italy should have not been in the Pot 4 as all social media is boiling or was boiling with posts good luck with the ones who will get Italy as a Pot 4 team.This is a group of hell for Albania and if they get one single point in here that would be a huge success and achievement for them,they are playing against World Champions or at a minimum a finalist in the World Cup meanwhile they don't have this experience,would be fun to watch these games.

I am not at all surprised by this outcome as far as the group looks, because you must know that the people from UEFA wanted to avoid Albania and Serbia, or Serbia and Croatia, being in the same group at all costs. Those would definitely be matches of the highest risk considering what happened in the Balkans 30+ years ago.

I personally like that Croatia will play Spain and Italy because it will be excellent duels and an opportunity for a rematch from the last European championship, when one of the most dramatic matches that I personally watched was played. I just hope that this time the Croatian players will not go to change their boots or to refresh themselves in the middle of the game, because the Spaniards certainly know how to punish that.

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December 06, 2023, 09:21:41 PM
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LOL.. Germany has been placed in the easiest possible group. Scotland did well during the qualifiers, but they are not considered as one of the strongest teams in UEFA. The other two teams (Hungary and Switzerland) in Group A doesn't have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stage. On the other hand, Group B is extremely tough with three very strong teams - Spain, Croatia and Italy. Still we don't have the complete picture yet, as the qualifying playoffs are not yet complete. There is a chance that teams like Iceland and Ukraine may qualify.
I agree, Germany is at great position to go up, but that doesn't mean they have a chance to win, considering how much trouble they had, I believe that we are going to end up seeing them not do all that crazy to be fair, it looks like we are going to see them go up the group stages but then lose somewhere after, not going to win.

England and France has fairly easy opponents as well, they will go up easily and unless they face each other along the way, I feel like they do look like they could be the eventual winners as well. A finals between England and France would be watched a lot, the yare the two teams that are super strong and poised to win this title for sure. If they face each other quicker, then things may change.

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December 06, 2023, 09:29:53 PM
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^^^ LOL.. Germany has been placed in the easiest possible group. Scotland did well during the qualifiers, but they are not considered as one of the strongest teams in UEFA. The other two teams (Hungary and Switzerland) in Group A doesn't have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stage. On the other hand, Group B is extremely tough with three very strong teams - Spain, Croatia and Italy. Still we don't have the complete picture yet, as the qualifying playoffs are not yet complete. There is a chance that teams like Iceland and Ukraine may qualify.

It would be strange if Germany, as the number 1 seeded team, ended up in a difficult group. Since the number of groups was increased by 50% (from 4 to 6), half of the groups are extremely easy and such an event as a death group almost never occurs. Moreover, if you consider that not only the first two places get to the 1/8 finals, but also four teams that took third place in the groups, it turns out that the entire group stage is a farce.

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December 07, 2023, 07:58:01 PM
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Being the host country was of course an advantage for Germany in group stage draw.  Smiley  However they might still not end the group as the leader while there is a Scotland threat. Scotland had a really impressive qualifier performance. They even won against Spain once I mean. I'm wondering if they will manage to keep the same mentality in Euro 2024 as well. If they do so they can make big difficulties for Germany even in their home stadium. It will depend on how strong Germany we will see in this tournament too.

Because the good old Germany hasn't been around for a while. But for the sake of being the host country we could see much better performances.
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December 07, 2023, 10:11:39 PM
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Being the host country was of course an advantage for Germany in group stage draw.  Smiley  However they might still not end the group as the leader while there is a Scotland threat. Scotland had a really impressive qualifier performance. They even won against Spain once I mean. I'm wondering if they will manage to keep the same mentality in Euro 2024 as well. If they do so they can make big difficulties for Germany even in their home stadium. It will depend on how strong Germany we will see in this tournament too.

Because the good old Germany hasn't been around for a while. But for the sake of being the host country we could see much better performances.

I remember their performance at the 2014 World Cup, when they were champions and they scored 7 goals against Brazil in the semi-final of that tournament. Now some of the players from that squad are still playing for the German national team, but they are old now. They are not as good as they used to be at bringing in a new generation. They will undoubtedly have an advantage in this tournament because they are the hosts. But they need a lot more to be champions or to do well in this tournament because they are far from their good old days.

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December 08, 2023, 01:33:10 AM
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^^^ LOL.. Germany has been placed in the easiest possible group. Scotland did well during the qualifiers, but they are not considered as one of the strongest teams in UEFA. The other two teams (Hungary and Switzerland) in Group A doesn't have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stage. On the other hand, Group B is extremely tough with three very strong teams - Spain, Croatia and Italy. Still we don't have the complete picture yet, as the qualifying playoffs are not yet complete. There is a chance that teams like Iceland and Ukraine may qualify.

It would be strange if Germany, as the number 1 seeded team, ended up in a difficult group. Since the number of groups was increased by 50% (from 4 to 6), half of the groups are extremely easy and such an event as a death group almost never occurs. Moreover, if you consider that not only the first two places get to the 1/8 finals, but also four teams that took third place in the groups, it turns out that the entire group stage is a farce.

Well, even though the number of teams have increased, they cannot just make the group stage in a way that the big teams get eliminated right? They have to make the competition more interesting as well. So it is obviously a good decision for the authority to make the competition as competitive as possible. And I am also pretty sure that people also want that. Even though a lot of people want to see smaller teams prove themselves in the big stages, they certainly do not want a team that is not very much known for its capability to face a very big team in the semifinals. Because that has a chance to be one-sided.

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I remember their performance at the 2014 World Cup, when they were champions and they scored 7 goals against Brazil in the semi-final of that tournament. Now some of the players from that squad are still playing for the German national team, but they are old now. They are not as good as they used to be at bringing in a new generation. They will undoubtedly have an advantage in this tournament because they are the hosts. But they need a lot more to be champions or to do well in this tournament because they are far from their good old days.
I've seen no improvement with this current Germany squad, despite having brilliant players, they don't stand a chance to compete for major competitions. Germany was once regarded as Champs due to the great players present, and the coach was also a wonderful addition to such brilliant performance of Germany. Germany squad was on fire in the past decades when they won the world cup, the squad was massively dominated by incredible football pattern, they are always one step ahead of their opponents and they go straight to grab three points with stellar performance portrayed.
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December 08, 2023, 02:24:12 AM
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It would be strange if Germany, as the number 1 seeded team, ended up in a difficult group. Since the number of groups was increased by 50% (from 4 to 6), half of the groups are extremely easy and such an event as a death group almost never occurs. Moreover, if you consider that not only the first two places get to the 1/8 finals, but also four teams that took third place in the groups, it turns out that the entire group stage is a farce.

They increased the number of teams from 16 to 24 from the 2016 tournament onwards. And this means that now there is a PQF round ahead of the Quarter-finals. Germany may qualify for the PQF stage, as it is not a very difficult task for them. But to proceed to the QF stage will be difficult. As of now, given their current form I am not expecting any miracles from Germany. I will be very surprised if they reach the semis. IMO, France and England have the maximum probability to win the Euro Cup this time.

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I'm waking up the thread after a long break.  Roll Eyes

Ronaldo is 39 years old now and still playing for his national team. It is like he is racing Pepe who is 41 years old and still playing there as well.   Grin  Ronaldo's ambitious nature is really impressive even at this old age. He is hungry for bringing another European championship to his country before his retirement. The last and only Euro title achieved by Portugal was in the 2015/2016 season.

But what is your opinion on Portugal's chance to become champions this year?   Huh  I feel like teams such as France, England and Spain can cause Portugal a big trouble on this road.
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I'm waking up the thread after a long break.  Roll Eyes

Ronaldo is 39 years old now and still playing for his national team. It is like he is racing Pepe who is 41 years old and still playing there as well.   Grin  Ronaldo's ambitious nature is really impressive even at this old age. He is hungry for bringing another European championship to his country before his retirement. The last and only Euro title achieved by Portugal was in the 2015/2016 season.

But what is your opinion on Portugal's chance to become champions this year?   Huh  I feel like teams such as France, England and Spain can cause Portugal a big trouble on this road.
I thought the Cup will be start in very soon, but actually it will start in the next three weeks lol.

Ronaldo will try anything to win the Euro Cup since he wasn't able to win World Cup, he might be lost his speed and dribble skills, but he's still able to score a goal.

I only think France, Belgium and Portugal can become a champion because England is always unlucky and Spain is no longer Spain that we were know.

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February 29, 2024, 11:57:22 AM
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I'm waking up the thread after a long break.  Roll Eyes

Ronaldo is 39 years old now and still playing for his national team. It is like he is racing Pepe who is 41 years old and still playing there as well.   Grin  Ronaldo's ambitious nature is really impressive even at this old age. He is hungry for bringing another European championship to his country before his retirement. The last and only Euro title achieved by Portugal was in the 2015/2016 season.

But what is your opinion on Portugal's chance to become champions this year?   Huh  I feel like teams such as France, England and Spain can cause Portugal a big trouble on this road.
I thought the Cup will be start in very soon, but actually it will start in the next three weeks lol.

Ronaldo will try anything to win the Euro Cup since he wasn't able to win World Cup, he might be lost his speed and dribble skills, but he's still able to score a goal.

I only think France, Belgium and Portugal can become a champion because England is always unlucky and Spain is no longer Spain that we were know.
Ronaldo is still mainstay for Portugal, even though at his current age he may have experienced decrease in speed in dribbling the ball, but he is still goal machine, the player with the best goal execution that Portugal has.
Some parties still believe that Portugal will be able to win the Euro 2024 title and Ronaldo will be the player who can win the top scorer title, all of which is still possible to happen in this year competition.
We are all about more than 3 months away from starting the competition for the winning matches from each group but this will feel very short, the competition will take place from 14 June to 14 July.

Ronaldo will remain the star in this competition, even Ronaldo presence could enable Portugal to become the strongest candidate for the title, just as they were the winners in Group J during qualifying.

Agree with you that Belgium, France and Portugal will be the 3 possible team in the race for the title but there is still the possibility of something unexpected happening, hopefully everything can go as we hope.

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