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June 07, 2024, 11:08:51 PM |
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Then we had England who lost against Iceland ? For real ? Iceland doesn't have a solid team anymore so I really don't understand how they lost this one because the first 11 players were all stars and most likely will all play at Euro.
As much as I would like to say "it's just a friendly", I can't because this is how England behaves. Whenever there is so much optimism within them, they fumble. That is part of the reason I wouldn't pick them if I were to pick a team to win the Euro. I am not reading much into this loss though, but I believe it should be a wake-up call for England to realise that they're not invincible. Friendlies results should be taken carefully and it does not tell the truth all the time even though a defeat against Iceland is still hard to swallow by England followers. I find England performance dropping over the years, yet I believe they will play advanced stages in this competition. There is definitely mistakes done and hopefully Southgate will fix it. I think he swapped the position of these players intentionally to see what he could get?
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June 07, 2024, 11:44:17 PM |
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Friendlies results should be taken carefully and it does not tell the truth all the time even though a defeat against Iceland is still hard to swallow by England followers. I find England performance dropping over the years, yet I believe they will play advanced stages in this competition. There is definitely mistakes done and hopefully Southgate will fix it. I think he swapped the position of these players intentionally to see what he could get?
The England national team comprises of elite players but they're just overhyped because all these players plays for elite clubs. England coach, Gareth Southgate selection should be reconsider because telling me England record defeat against Iceland is absurd. For goodness sake, England have all the squad accessible and available to win mediocre countries but they've failed woefully and this should be a lesson to them, they're not ready for the Euros because the coach still have to work on his lineup especially his starting XI.
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June 08, 2024, 04:05:58 AM |
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Friendlies results should be taken carefully and it does not tell the truth all the time even though a defeat against Iceland is still hard to swallow by England followers. I find England performance dropping over the years, yet I believe they will play advanced stages in this competition. There is definitely mistakes done and hopefully Southgate will fix it. I think he swapped the position of these players intentionally to see what he could get?
Friendly matches before a big tournament are last chances for national team coaches to assess many things from tactics to players and make proper adjustments before the tournament kick-off. Friendly matches before big tournaments are more important than friend matches at different times. Bad results from friendly matches shortly before a World Cup or Euro are not good signals and with a latest bad result, England team will probably have big problems in Euro 2024. We even can guess their issues from players chosen by Southgate days ago. The England national team comprises of elite players but they're just overhyped because all these players plays for elite clubs. England coach, Gareth Southgate selection should be reconsider because telling me England record defeat against Iceland is absurd. For goodness sake, England have all the squad accessible and available to win mediocre countries but they've failed woefully and this should be a lesson to them, they're not ready for the Euros because the coach still have to work on his lineup especially his starting XI.
England national team have good and quality players but to say they are all elite players, I really don't agree with you on this. They only have some elite players in chosen players for Euro 2024 but many other players are only at good quality, star players and some are even average or a little above average quality. Why Southgate picked those players is big secret and only he knew why he made those surprising decisions that can affect the team performances in this Euro.
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June 08, 2024, 04:43:26 AM |
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England national team have good and quality players but to say they are all elite players, I really don't agree with you on this. They only have some elite players in chosen players for Euro 2024 but many other players are only at good quality, star players and some are even average or a little above average quality. Why Southgate picked those players is big secret and only he knew why he made those surprising decisions that can affect the team performances in this Euro.
Do you think, whom are those "average or a little above average quality" players? just because they're not joining in top teams or popular, it doesn't mean they're low quality players. Rashford, Maddison, Sterling, Sancho, Chilwell, James, Ben White, and Grealish are big players, but their performance aren't excellent in this season and there are better players that playing in the same position like them. Example, attacking midfielder, although Maddison played well for Tottenham, but Bellingham and Gallagher way better than him.
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June 08, 2024, 06:09:23 AM |
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England national team have good and quality players but to say they are all elite players, I really don't agree with you on this. They only have some elite players in chosen players for Euro 2024 but many other players are only at good quality, star players and some are even average or a little above average quality. Why Southgate picked those players is big secret and only he knew why he made those surprising decisions that can affect the team performances in this Euro.
Southgate has announced the 26 players he will bring to Germany to compete in the euro later, the decision taken by Southgate in determining the squad is of course correct and I think in this case we don't know any better than Southgate, indeed at the moment there are some important players that Southgate has thrown out of the England national team and the most controversial is the expulsion of Jack Grealish from the England national team this season, Jack Grealish is a player who helped Manchester City win the Premier League this season but if we pay attention if this season Jack Grealish does have statistics that are not better than other players, so it Is natural that Jack Grealish does not get a place in the current England national team squad even though he often makes a lot of difference when coming off the bench so far. Southgate has been a coach who has often caused controversy in player selection, but I think he has a strong reason for the selection and the proof is that he was able to take England to the final of Euro 2020 even though previously he was also filled with controversy, currently the England squad is filled with new players and only part of the England national team has considerable experience playing in international matches, So I think the combination of the England squad this season will certainly bring a balance of experience and new energy into the team and of course can have a positive effect later.
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June 08, 2024, 06:21:39 AM |
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the england coach announced the squad: England squad for Euro 2024 has been confirmed by Gareth Southgate!
Jack Grealish Harry Maguire James Maddison Jarrad Branthwaite James Trafford Curtis Jones Jarrell Quansah source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C74Y2CNIE6x/England has many high quality players, but they have had problems when choosing coaches, in my opinion I don't see England being able to win this Euro, they will be able to pass the group stage because they were lucky to be in a group that has weak teams , but when they move on to another stage and encounter strong teams, they will lose and be eliminated. I don't understand why the coach chose not to take Jack Grealish, but we'll see if the coach really made a good choice in choosing this squad or if he made a bad choice in choosing this squad. If England's performance in this Euro is a failure, the coach will receive a lot of criticism In my opinion the coach made a bad decision, he only succeeded in assembling inexperienced players who has never been tested in a major tournament. Look at the players like Cole Palmer, Watkins, Kobie Mainoo and others who made the squad list. See at some point experience is what is needed to go through at the big stage. England won't have any chance when they meet teams like France and Germany Portugal included and Netherlands. Southgate be acting like he is a master of the game but he has nothing in his head, I hope England get rid of him after this tournament. Of England had a good coach they would have won a trophy since Southgate took over. You can't tell that Super Jack doesn't meet the criteria to be selected, he is a top player and he play good football and the fans love him so what's the problem with Southgate now. yesterday there were friendly games and I decided to add some friendly games to my multibet bet, as they were games it was easy to predict the result, so I didn't see a problem with adding a lot of games, especially because the odds were very low, but man, when I woke up today and I went to see my bet, I was really shocked by this: ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) They lost against Iceland, I know it was a friendly game and that in most friendly games the coaches choose not to put the best players on the field, but in these friendlies most coaches are playing with their best players and England also put their best players on the field, but England still failed to score a goal and lost the game. which shocked me because even the low odds value in favor of England made me think that England would hardly lose in this game. As I already said in my last post: I highly doubt that England will be able to beat this euro. see that in the last 5 games in which England played against Iceland, this is the first time that they failed to score 1 goal source: https://livescores.biz/h2h/england-vs-I don't think this defeat is a good sign and mainly due to the fact that they weren't able to score at least 1 goal. I lost my bet, normally I don't bet on games with very low odds, but yesterday I thought: "as there's no longer premier league, La Liga, a bundesliga and there's still a bit to go before the euro, so I'm going to bet on these friendly games and the game from my country's national team", the total odds were @2.40 and I was convinced that it would be an easy victory, and today I wake up to see the result of the England game and I am faced with this defeat. very disappointing
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Thank you very much for trying to see things differently. When I come online and see what people write about England and Southgate it makes me wonder what day think of England and what the reality is. We have seen England in so many finals under the management of Southgate, but it is quite unfortunate that no one counts that as success if you do not win the trophy. This about to start euro 2024, people have started predicting that England and Southgate will exit at the round of 16. But surprisingly to them all, they will still see England in the finals or semi-finals of the euro 2024 and yet they will not count that as a success. Let us be hopeful that one day Southgate will disappoint them and win one major trophy for England and all this disrespect for the English team will stop.
Gareth Southgate is not just that coach, and if you don't see it that way, I don't know how to convince you. He is not a good coach, and if England gets to win the European Competition, it's because the players want to win it, Gareth Southgate is a tactically poor coach, he should just focus on punditry for goodness sake. He reminds me of Ole Gunner Solskjaer who gives the players free will to play as I don't see him demanding more from them lads. Even a coach who has won back to back trophies is not appreciated ( Erik Ten Hag.... A bit off topic. )and you want fans to appreciate that? Secondly, I hate the fact that he is being linked with a move to replace Erik Ten Hag as the next manager of Manchester United. I breaks my heart because all I see is relegation calls. Manchester United will definitely suffer if they fail to back Erik Ten Hag. Going back to Gareth Southgate is like going back to David Moyes again. Lol. Shows how wacked and sentimental Jim Radcliffe and side can be. FACTS: NO ENGLISH MANAGER HAS WON THE PREMIER LEAGUE COMPETITION TILL DATE. Not even Southgate would be able to win it for Manchester United.
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So I would say that by the level of players now England is the Euro favorite and Southgate's team includes Kane, Bellingham, Palmer, Watkins, some of the best strikers in the world.
England has good players in every line. naturally, they will be favorites at this year's Euros. especially in the group phase, I'm sure it won't be too difficult for England to win the group. I think after the group phase is finished, a strong competitor from England might host Germany. But let's see first how the performance of several countries that will be favorites will pass through the group phase. For this year's Euros, I support Germany and England. England have a very strong midfield and offense, probably the best in this tournament, but there are more questions with the defense. England have Trippier, Walker and Stones, but they play more with support in attack, but with central defenders I think it will be more difficult. It is also unclear who will be the main goalkeeper at this Euro, because Pickford has not had the best season at the club. Nevertheless, England can compensate all the problems in defense with an excellent offense and Slovenia, Denmark or Serbia do not seem to be difficult opponents. Germany, even though it's a home Euro for them, I would not consider them favorites, unlike England or France.
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I don't know why people are so fascinated with teams that come from so-called "big" countries and always think that they have to make big results regardless of the fact that there are other teams that are much better than them? The English are always arrogant and convinced that they are the best, but then they are beaten by a small Iceland in their home stadium - that kind of defeat must hurt a lot. Some still remember how the Croats taught them a lesson in 2007 and defeated them at Wembley - bad then, bad even today - Modric played then, he still plays today England 2-3 Croatia [21-11-2007]
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I don't know why people are so fascinated with teams that come from so-called "big" countries and always think that they have to make big results regardless of the fact that there are other teams that are much better than them? The English are always arrogant and convinced that they are the best, but then they are beaten by a small Iceland in their home stadium - that kind of defeat must hurt a lot. Some still remember how the Croats taught them a lesson in 2007 and defeated them at Wembley - bad then, bad even today - Modric played then, he still plays today England 2-3 Croatia [21-11-2007]That defeat of the England national team is remembered not only in England) That defeat of the England national team led to the best performance of the Russian national team at the Euros in history, so the match is really memorable. As far as I remember then this match broke the career of coach Steve McClaren and the goalkeeper of the England national team, unfortunately I do not remember his last name, but it seems that he did not play for the national team anymore. As for England's defeat yesterday, this is the third game without a win at Wembley, before that there were defeats to Brazil and a draw with Belgium. Most of all questions to Southgate, which having in the lineup Kane, Bellingham, Foden and Palmer could not build a game in attack and for the whole match England had seemingly only 1 shot at goal and in this playing against not the strongest team of Iceland.
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I don't have a problem with Maguire if his name is on the out list according to this source because Walker can play as a CB even though we often see him as an RB at his club.
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It looks like Maguire is suffering a muscle injury so that must be why Southgate removed him from the list. Otherwise I think he would have added him. But truthfully it is better not to have him. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Because he has turned out to be a flop since he joined Manchester United. He isn't among reliable English defenders also. When it comes to Walker, CB is a position in which he can play. But when we look at his whole career we see him playing there quite rarerly. It is better to have him as RB to cut fast wingers effectively. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F08%2FcFGRz.png&t=665&c=BBCnCpbwimlAZw)
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June 08, 2024, 11:46:25 AM |
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A lot of surprises on this friendly games so far right ? Romanian not being able to score 1 goals in 2 games against Bulgaria and today against Lichtenstein ( the odds were 1.04 for Romania to win and I must admit on my national tv it was a big scandal for not being able to score once ). Then we had England who lost against Iceland ? For real ? Iceland doesn't have a solid team anymore so I really don't understand how they lost this one because the first 11 players were all stars and most likely will all play at Euro.
Yes, Romania was unable to score a goal in two friendly matches. However, in my opinion, this is normal because of course the two countries that Romania played against were not weak teams. Although if you look at the head to head record of the two countries, Romania is superior. The reason is that in Romania's last two meetings with Leichtenstein, the result was that Romania was able to win both matches. Then in Romania's last meeting with Bulgaria, the result ended in a draw. Well, maybe this time Romania experienced a decline in performance to the point that they were unable to score a single goal in these 2 matches. Then for England's match against Iceland, to be honest the result of this match was what surprised me the most. Because I personally don't think that England, which has many star players, will lose to Iceland. However, behind this defeat, maybe the England national team coach just wanted to see and try out the strategy in this match. Because of course this week is the last time to prepare players and strategies to be more mature in facing the Euro competition. And today in a friendly match, Portugal will face Croatia. This match will definitely be very exciting to watch, because of course in this match we will see the extent of the strength that Ronaldo and his teammates have. I personally predict Portugal will win this match.
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I don't know why people are so fascinated with teams that come from so-called "big" countries and always think that they have to make big results regardless of the fact that there are other teams that are much better than them? The English are always arrogant and convinced that they are the best, but then they are beaten by a small Iceland in their home stadium - that kind of defeat must hurt a lot. Some still remember how the Croats taught them a lesson in 2007 and defeated them at Wembley - bad then, bad even today - Modric played then, he still plays today England 2-3 Croatia [21-11-2007]I think it is reasonable for people who fascinated with team that come from big countries, because we know that in this called "big" countries have their own great and famous players, and have more experiences. So it is the reason why people so fascinated, almost every people will give any support for idol player. For example, if i choose Cristiano Ronaldo as my idol player, i will give all my support for him, not only for his club but also for his national team as he is still playing for his team. I don't really care if his team get a lost, i will keep my support for him and always want to see his struggle.
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June 08, 2024, 12:04:19 PM |
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A lot of surprises on this friendly games so far right ? Romanian not being able to score 1 goals in 2 games against Bulgaria and today against Lichtenstein ( the odds were 1.04 for Romania to win and I must admit on my national tv it was a big scandal for not being able to score once ). Then we had England who lost against Iceland ? For real ? Iceland doesn't have a solid team anymore so I really don't understand how they lost this one because the first 11 players were all stars and most likely will all play at Euro.
Yes, Romania was unable to score a goal in two friendly matches. However, in my opinion, this is normal because of course the two countries that Romania played against were not weak teams. Although if you look at the head to head record of the two countries, Romania is superior. The reason is that in Romania's last two meetings with Leichtenstein, the result was that Romania was able to win both matches. Then in Romania's last meeting with Bulgaria, the result ended in a draw. Well, maybe this time Romania experienced a decline in performance to the point that they were unable to score a single goal in these 2 matches. Then for England's match against Iceland, to be honest the result of this match was what surprised me the most. Because I personally don't think that England, which has many star players, will lose to Iceland. However, behind this defeat, maybe the England national team coach just wanted to see and try out the strategy in this match. Because of course this week is the last time to prepare players and strategies to be more mature in facing the Euro competition. And today in a friendly match, Portugal will face Croatia. This match will definitely be very exciting to watch, because of course in this match we will see the extent of the strength that Ronaldo and his teammates have. I personally predict Portugal will win this match. Unexpected scores always occur in friendly matches. Football players do not want to get injured and do not show their full performance. Teams avoid entering the competition. This is a very normal situation. Preparatory matches often do not show us the result of a real competition. I was expecting a goal in Romania's match, but neither team managed to score a goal. It was a match that was below expectations, but this match does not show the true performance of both teams. These decreases in the performance of teams during the preparation periods are very normal. England generally manages to surprise its viewers in its matches. Nobody expected such a score. It surprises football fans that a squad full of stars cannot score a goal. I attribute the main reason for this situation to be that this match is a preparation match. I think the Portugal Croatia match will end in a draw. Neither team will push themselves too hard.
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June 08, 2024, 12:23:43 PM |
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I agree with people who think Southgate shouldn't be England coach anymore if he fails in winning Euro 2024 as well. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) So many years have been left behind but England have 0 title achieved. They have always had such an impressive squad in the meantime. But they just can't make it anyway. Unlike people who think Southgate is actually good, I think the opposite as a result. If you still can't win any title with such a team in nearly 10 years then you still have a long way to go to be called as a good coach. Many people think Southgate shouldn’t be England coach but I think they are right about that, yesterday's match of England against Iceland was very boring to imagine how England's players are playing like they are not the players that play in their team, imagine, Cole Palmer, Foden, Declan rice and all these young players in the squad can not play very well but when it comes to their team they will play very well, even Foden that is the premier league player of the season can’t play very well for his country, I think the fault is from the coach because, from the players he removed from the squad, I think he needs some of them, these young players can not take England to any level. From the first time I saw the list of the players that are being removed I knew that something must happened to England squad, those players who I saw yesterday that played for England against Iceland can not win Euro for England, in fact they can’t even reach semi-final with the performance I saw yesterday, I think England needs a wing player that can help them, using Foden and Cole Palmer as a wing will not help the team at all, the team needs another wing player like Grealish to add to saka so that the team can play very well in Euro.
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I don't know why people are so fascinated with teams that come from so-called "big" countries and always think that they have to make big results regardless of the fact that there are other teams that are much better than them? The English are always arrogant and convinced that they are the best, but then they are beaten by a small Iceland in their home stadium - that kind of defeat must hurt a lot. Some still remember how the Croats taught them a lesson in 2007 and defeated them at Wembley - bad then, bad even today - Modric played then, he still plays today England 2-3 Croatia [21-11-2007]I think it is reasonable for people who fascinated with team that come from big countries, because we know that in this called "big" countries have their own great and famous players, and have more experiences. So it is the reason why people so fascinated, almost every people will give any support for idol player. For example, if i choose Cristiano Ronaldo as my idol player, i will give all my support for him, not only for his club but also for his national team as he is still playing for his team. I don't really care if his team get a lost, i will keep my support for him and always want to see his struggle. Well that's football for you it's not only that england are being pumpose of themselves because they have player or something else, I believe it's just normal for a player or fans to support their team even if the team isn't up to standard or class because in football anything can happen and before a team or the fans show pride alot then it means that they actually have a edge in seeing that they can win the game .
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Friendlies results should be taken carefully and it does not tell the truth all the time even though a defeat against Iceland is still hard to swallow by England followers. I find England performance dropping over the years, yet I believe they will play advanced stages in this competition. There is definitely mistakes done and hopefully Southgate will fix it.
I agree that the friendly games should be not taken that much seriously. Watched also the review of the game between England against Iceland and there was for sure some chances to get a draw or even a win for England. We also should not forget that the other teams form other countries getting better , have seen that from Greece vs Germany. When the EM will be start there will be come some extra motivation to all teams.
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Friendlies results should be taken carefully and it does not tell the truth all the time even though a defeat against Iceland is still hard to swallow by England followers. I find England performance dropping over the years, yet I believe they will play advanced stages in this competition. There is definitely mistakes done and hopefully Southgate will fix it. I think he swapped the position of these players intentionally to see what he could get?
The England national team comprises of elite players but they're just overhyped because all these players plays for elite clubs. England coach, Gareth Southgate selection should be reconsider because telling me England record defeat against Iceland is absurd. For goodness sake, England have all the squad accessible and available to win mediocre countries but they've failed woefully and this should be a lesson to them, they're not ready for the Euros because the coach still have to work on his lineup especially his starting XI. England is overrated in football. Their tactics are all wrong, and they can't keep a clean sheet, which will be costly against top teams. They have players who can win games in a moment, but they'll need two or three of those moments against decent teams, which will be tough. Southgate already shocked everyone with their 1-0 loss to Iceland just one week before Euro 2024. How far can Southgate's side go at the Euros? We'll see. Friendlies are nothing like a real tournament match! Anyway, good luck ahead of EURO 2024.
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Friendlies results should be taken carefully and it does not tell the truth all the time even though a defeat against Iceland is still hard to swallow by England followers. I find England performance dropping over the years, yet I believe they will play advanced stages in this competition. There is definitely mistakes done and hopefully Southgate will fix it. I think he swapped the position of these players intentionally to see what he could get?
Friendly matches do not affect the UEFA rankings, but this does not mean that England lost the match because it does not mean anything to them. The Iceland team should not be underestimated, they are a good team that can play well in attack, so I am not surprised that they scored a goal, but I was surprised that the England attack played so poorly, considering that they conceded at the beginning of the match, they did the whole game only one shot on target for Iceland in the first half.
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I don't believe England deserve to be called as the biggest favourite by the bookmakers. Just because they reached the finale in Euro 2020 we can't say they are the closest team to the title again. Before anything else this isn't a thing they do regularly. Besides they have an unsuccessful history. They won a World Cup like 60 years ago and that's all. Even they have had great players nowadays they just can't make it. This doesn't mean they won't ever be champions of course. But with Southgate? No I don't think so. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) There has been a big need of a manager change for quite a while.
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