⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽

[notblox1]

Well you can always join the pool and not this one. That will be regular result predictions.

I will think about joining both if my time allows it 
When I saw you guys wrote there will be some form of questionnaire I imagined hard quiz question, and everyone can google results and pretend to know everything about teams.
I don't know how you plan to make this fair competition, and is everyone going to have same questions or not.

Looking good Cro2 team, thanks so much for doing this!
For those asking about the customary World Cup Prediction pool with Superbru, it's now LIVE @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419161.0

Very nice to hear this, I was already starting to think who is going to release this competition
I am joining this one and I think I will send application tomorrow, good thing hilariousandco is using well known Superbru website.

[cryptofrka]

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not sure that I have understood all rules regarding this one, but will keep up before World Cup, there is still time, and join Superbru competition as well
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It's a bit new but is quite easy once we explain it to you all. Feel free to ask any questions, we thought we covered it all but it seems we didn't

I will think about joining both if my time allows it  
When I saw you guys wrote there will be some form of questionnaire I imagined hard quiz question, and everyone can google results and pretend to know everything about teams.
I don't know how you plan to make this fair competition, and is everyone going to have same questions or not.

Nope, not a quiz at all, and as we said, Googling won't help much. Everyone will get the same questions, they will be something like this:

• Will Benzema start the 1st game for France?
• England over/under 62% possession against Iran
• The team to score the most goals in the 1st round in group C will be:
• Messi to play the whole match against Saudi Arabia or not?

The questions will all be about the upcoming World Cup round and are meant to make you a bit more interested in the games themselves.

[KTChampions]

Thanks to the organizers for the opportunity, I enter both competitions (pool and this competition) although I prefer blind betting, so I'm not sure that I can answer questions well. Nevertheless, it is foolish to miss the opportunity to participate in the plus lottery 
How do I understand the drawing of groups and further instructions will be communicated later?

Good luck to all!

[Trofo]

Thanks to the organizers for the opportunity, I enter both competitions (pool and this competition) although I prefer blind betting, so I'm not sure that I can answer questions well. Nevertheless, it is foolish to miss the opportunity to participate in the plus lottery 
How do I understand the drawing of groups and further instructions will be communicated later?

Good luck to all!

First step is to get 32 participants, than we can draw the groups and post here so you know who you are competing against.

Other instructions aren't really complicated. We will post a link to form where you will answer 10 questions and add a screenshot for qualifying bet. Read trough the rules and ask away if anything isn't clear.

There is still posibility to fine tune the rules before the start so let us know if you have some ideas how to improve further. For instance you all can thank buwaytress for bringing to our notice the fact that original rules had 0.5 mBTC for qualifying bets, while it is 0.5 mBTC equivalent in any Sportsbet accepted currency now.

[Slissy]

you must update that cash out is not allowed and it will lead to disqualification.. do you agree? it is to avoid those who bet and send a picture and then use the cash out button..

[Trofo]

you must update that cash out is not allowed and it will lead to disqualification.. do you agree? it is to avoid those who bet and send a picture and then use the cash out button..

That one is a bit difficult for us to check, but good catch, we will add it to do rules and then if we suspect someone we can ask our partners in sportsbet to check the particular tickets/users via bet id.

Only way I know to regulate that would be to force people to add eSports to the ticket Don't know why but any time you include eSport on the ticket Sportsbet disables cash out option. No matter if your eSport match is already finished and won. Obviously not gonna do that since it is not in the spirit of the World Cup but it did cross my mind.

[cryptofrka]

Added to the rules, makes sense.

I'd also ask for some common logic in such cases. If we say that a ticket needs to be played, of course that it cannot be cashed out.
Whoever tries to be smart will probably end up without reward, or banned from the competition.

The entry here is really low, with a big prize pool. Do the bare minimum that is required and you'll be fine.

[KTChampions]

Thanks to the organizers for the opportunity, I enter both competitions (pool and this competition) although I prefer blind betting, so I'm not sure that I can answer questions well. Nevertheless, it is foolish to miss the opportunity to participate in the plus lottery 
How do I understand the drawing of groups and further instructions will be communicated later?

Good luck to all!

First step is to get 32 participants, than we can draw the groups and post here so you know who you are competing against.

Other instructions aren't really complicated. We will post a link to form where you will answer 10 questions and add a screenshot for qualifying bet. Read trough the rules and ask away if anything isn't clear.

There is still posibility to fine tune the rules before the start so let us know if you have some ideas how to improve further. For instance you all can thank buwaytress for bringing to our notice the fact that original rules had 0.5 mBTC for qualifying bets, while it is 0.5 mBTC equivalent in any Sportsbet accepted currency now.

I am ready to start even if the required number of participants is not collected, the main thing is that the prizes remain 
A bet with odds >1.5 means any bet (multibet) where at least one outcome includes an event from the World Cup?
I should note that many bets will be won, that is, in fact, this is a very generous competition, I don’t understand why not all slots are filled yet.

[Trofo]

I am ready to start even if the required number of participants is not collected, the main thing is that the prizes remain 
A bet with odds >1.5 means any bet (multibet) where at least one outcome includes an event from the World Cup?
I should note that many bets will be won, that is, in fact, this is a very generous competition, I don’t understand why not all slots are filled yet.

A bet with odds 1.5 or over is meant just for that qualifying game. Meaning you have to play a sigle or a multi bet which contains any market from that round of world cup games which has the odds of at least 1.5.

So you can't play Brazil to not lose against Serbia and raise the odds with other games. You will have to play both to score or something that has big enough odds and then you can leave it as single or add something more. Whatever you prefer.

Hope I explained it satisfactory.

[buwaytress]

I am ready to start even if the required number of participants is not collected, the main thing is that the prizes remain 
A bet with odds >1.5 means any bet (multibet) where at least one outcome includes an event from the World Cup?
I should note that many bets will be won, that is, in fact, this is a very generous competition, I don’t understand why not all slots are filled yet.

The full rules in case you want to read:

The ticket must include one game from the World Cup from that round with minimum odds of 1.5. Cashout is not permitted - we can check it with Sportsbet."

It's probably going to be MLs and betbuilders for me (those count right Trofo?).

And yes, I don't get why people aren't filling up these spots more quickly. We're all gamblers, and the forum suggests hundreds of people all gambling on football. Biggest football tournament on the planet. I'm going to be betting out of my ears anyway. Why not try for a nice Christmas bonus, right?

I'm going to be pinging others in other pools but only after talking about it in Clubtalk. Maybe it just needs time for news to travel.

[cryptofrka]

Considering it's only day 2, we're quite happy with the response so far.

We're positive that we'll have all spots filled before the tournament starts.
If I counted correctly, 21 spots are already filled based on all criteria, with 7 additional applications from members of a lower rank and neg trust.

If you have someone on your mind, better tell them to hurry

[KTChampions]

I am ready to start even if the required number of participants is not collected, the main thing is that the prizes remain  
A bet with odds >1.5 means any bet (multibet) where at least one outcome includes an event from the World Cup?
I should note that many bets will be won, that is, in fact, this is a very generous competition, I don’t understand why not all slots are filled yet.

A bet with odds 1.5 or over is meant just for that qualifying game. Meaning you have to play a sigle or a multi bet which contains any market from that round of world cup games which has the odds of at least 1.5.

So you can't play Brazil to not lose against Serbia and raise the odds with other games. You will have to play both to score or something that has big enough odds and then you can leave it as single or add something more. Whatever you prefer.

Hope I explained it satisfactory.

Yee, thank you, now i got it.
It's sad that i can't take multibet 1.2*1.3*1,4 consisting only from World Cup games but Ok.

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And yes, I don't get why people aren't filling up these spots more quickly. We're all gamblers, and the forum suggests hundreds of people all gambling on football. Biggest football tournament on the planet. I'm going to be betting out of my ears anyway. Why not try for a nice Christmas bonus, right?

I'm going to be pinging others in other pools but only after talking about it in Clubtalk. Maybe it just needs time for news to travel.

Maybe they haven't realized yet that the World Cup is about to start as they are used to seeing it in the summer 
As far as I remember, the number of participants in any pool is more than the places here, so I think all the places will be filled.

[slaman29]

Very good point about cash out!

So instead, maybe after the round also people have to provide screenshot of their settled bet in the spreadsheet (just add imgur link in a new column). That should make the job easier for Sportsbet?

Another way I guess also in the end, all winners can be checked to save time, and disqualified ones can pass to next person. Sort of like in sports unfair winner is investigated later anyway hehe.

Easy for me, bet on Spain until they are out or win, handicap if odds not 1.5x  

[cryptofrka]

The early version of the application list is here.
Green is certain, reserved spots kept until Wednesday.

We have introduced seed spots and filled them with users who mostly participate in the pools. It was a bit subjective so sorry if you didn't make it.
It's basically just for fun and doesn't offer any real advantages - just means they cannot be placed in the same groups at the beginning.

The seed list isn't final as well, we'll let you know when you can take the data in the spreadsheet as granted.

[dhyani_vivek@gmail.com]

Hi Trofo , i understand that only member rank will be able to join competition. so , any help how to improve your ranking fast since my rank is newbie 

[slaman29]

I am not Top Seed! But I appreciate that, it means there's no pressure on me to perform.

BTW I got the PM from hilarious about the pool as well as the bracket, so I will look at all these options and make my winning predictions before the games begin!

[swogerino]

I am not Top Seed! But I appreciate that, it means there's no pressure on me to perform.

BTW I got the PM from hilarious about the pool as well as the bracket, so I will look at all these options and make my winning predictions before the games begin!

I also got the message and the bracket and already put it all what I think will be in the FIFA extra mini prize.The boring thing about that thing is that once you predict the group stages and only a few games remain you have no choice of recovering and that is why Superbru excels,it gives you opportunities much further than FIFA predictor does and that is why the main event will be with Superbru to give us all an equal chance,even to those who do not start the event in the best possible way.

[Trofo]

Good news everybody, we have received sponsorship money from Sportsbet.io on our escrow wallet.
Escrow address: bc1qge3m389y0kezc6qxnzv8ehuvdv5etveu242vzsjwfjk9x58mtfnst0wxwc

We have a total of 177.53 mBTC for rewards which will be awarded as follows:

• 1st place 76 mBTC
• 2nd place 40 mBTC
• 3rd place 25.5 mBTC
• 4th place 10 mBTC$
• QF reached 4 mBTC
• R16 reached 1.2 mBTC

*all rewards will be paid out when competition finishes in one transaction
*we have left in reserve about 0.4 mBTC for transaction costs, if anything is left over it will be added to 1. place reward, if it isn't enough, remainder will be taken from 1. place reward. It is the biggest reward and few fractions of mBTC more or less shouldn't have much of an impact.

[casperBGD]

Hi Trofo , i understand that only member rank will be able to join competition. so , any help how to improve your ranking fast since my rank is newbie 

you simply can't, need some time for activity to grow in member rank, no matter how many merit's you have
it is the reason why this rule is here, to now allow people to make several accounts and join the competition

@Trofo, thanks for clarification regarding rules, will join during this week

[cryptofrka]

We have 35 applications so far, from which 25 are confirmed for participation.

We are keeping a place for @darxiaomi until end of day today as announced, and the other applications are from members that do not fulfill all the criteria but will be taken into consideration if the remaining 7 spots won't be taken by other members.

We plan to close applications by the end of this week and than work on the draws and questions for the 1st round.

The latest version of the spreadsheet can be found here.