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July 04, 2024, 07:46:20 AM
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Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

I learnt the electric cars is economically wise compared to the diesels and petrols yes but let's keep it straight, the electric cars would be much expensive to buy and that will keep lot of averages and below not being affordable to own a car due to the highly expenses of an electric car. It's a good ideal introducing this technology though but shouldn't call to the whip off of those affordable mobiles that feels affordable for an average person.
At times we don't even need to trust the government because they'd also want to inconvenience the poor and everything will be so expected to go according to their own standards such as the luxuries and the highily expensive inventions.

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July 04, 2024, 10:07:11 AM
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I believe we can significantly reduce diesel and petrol car usage by 2035, though complete elimination may be difficult. We have about 10 years to improve infrastructure for electric vehicles (EVs), enhance their range, and address concerns about reliability. Hybrid cars will likely become more prevalent during this time.

However, achieving this goal in my country by 2035 might be challenging. Our infrastructure is limited, and technology is not evenly distributed, making it difficult for people to adopt EVs.
We need to move as quickly as possible along the path of reducing the use of diesel and gasoline engines in cars, which terribly pollute the environment, and switch to more environmentally friendly ones, including electric cars. Whether we manage to do this before 2035 or not is no longer so important. We must even try to speed up this transition, because the climate in different regions of the planet has become more dangerous and is getting worse every year. And this will lead to the flooding of many territories, mass migration of people, intensification of various natural disasters, and so on.

I see that work in this direction is being carried out quite actively. From time to time you hear about improvements in battery efficiency; yesterday in the news they said that a charger had been invented in England that could charge an electric car in just five minutes. A rapid transition to electric vehicles is simply inevitable.

Society has been complaining about pollution for ages, but people seems to care little about it. Remember Greenpeace ? They have been fighting against pollution for half a decade. Still no significant result is seen.

I havent heard about such super quick chargers, that were invented recently, but even if they did, a question about safety comes first to my mind. Electric car battery isnt tiny AAA battery or powerbank size battery. Its huge. Charging it in 5 minutes, means transferring a huge amount of electricity in short time. It will be kind of a electric shocker or defibrillator strike, a lightning. Will it be safe? If something goes wrong, a person that is in the car during charging might get hurt.

 
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July 18, 2024, 06:18:49 AM
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The climate on our planet is getting hotter every year and this is a very acute reminder that people need to be more careful with nature and not pollute it with emissions from the combustion of carbohydrates. This summer has already brought abnormal heat to our planet. Thus, on July 7, the temperature in Death Valley in North America reached a record 53.9 degrees Celsius. And this situation is observed in many countries around the world.

Each of the past 13 months has broken records as the hottest on record, according to the European Union's climate service Copernicus. Among them is the hottest June.
On July 8, 2024, the service reported that the average temperature over the previous 12 months was also at least 1.5 degrees Celsius higher than the pre-industrial era of 1850–1900. The Paris climate agreement meant that global temperatures on Earth could be kept to within 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. But this target was intended for a 30-year period over which the average temperature was to be taken.

So far, only one full year has surpassed this value. But it is already clear that the world will pass the important 30-year milestone within the next 10 years. And while this summer may seem abnormally hot, it could be one of the coolest in the future. For groups that are especially vulnerable to heat, including young children, older adults and outdoor workers, things are even worse.

Although man is a stupid creature and never learns from his mistakes, one can only hope that the unbearable temperature conditions of a changing climate will force him to abandon gasoline and diesel engines.
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July 18, 2024, 06:48:57 AM
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I learnt the electric cars is economically wise compared to the diesels and petrols yes but let's keep it straight, the electric cars would be much expensive to buy and that will keep lot of averages and below not being affordable to own a car due to the highly expenses of an electric car. It's a good ideal introducing this technology though but shouldn't call to the whip off of those affordable mobiles that feels affordable for an average person.

Personally, the only electric cars I have seen in the wild are Teslas. And only Model Y's at that.

I'm still not sure where they go to get their batteries charged, as I don't know any charging stations around here - there's still gas stations everywhere you look.

Although one thing's for sure; that whole 2035 goal of no petrol/diesel car sales is only realistic for developed countries with a stable grid.

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July 18, 2024, 07:37:21 PM
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The climate on our planet is getting hotter every year and this is a very acute reminder that people need to be more careful with nature and not pollute it with emissions from the combustion of carbohydrates. This summer has already brought abnormal heat to our planet. Thus, on July 7, the temperature in Death Valley in North America reached a record 53.9 degrees Celsius. And this situation is observed in many countries around the world.

Let me be the bringer of the sad news that even if we stop breathing and drop dead together with all other animals. The temps will climb for another decade or so.  People need to prepare.

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July 18, 2024, 07:58:03 PM
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Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

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The landmark law will require carmakers to cut down CO2 emissions by 100 percent.
The 100 percent cut in CO2 emissions from new cars sold would make it impossible to sell petrol or diesel-powered cars in the 27-country bloc. The law that comes into effect in phases that will require a 55 percent cut in CO2 emissions for new cars starting 2030, which is a much higher target in comparison to the current 37.5 percent.

Source ---> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/electric-cars/no-petrol/diesel-car-sales-by-2035-european-parliament-approves-ban/articleshow/97939363.cms

Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

Eventually we will hit a day when oil starts to run out or becomes prohibitively expensive to use for fuel in cars. We have been using it for a long time now and will probably continue to use it for many more decades, however there will also be a peak for demand affected by many factors. It will actually be a good thing, because certain countries get to abuse their access to oil and keep some very nasty people in power. What the EU is trying to do is admirable, but I expect it to get pushed back. Ultimately, if we can clean up the process for creating renewable fuels and the battery technology so it's less harmful than fossil fuels, then people in cities and towns could start to breath much cleaner air which is better for us all.

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July 18, 2024, 08:08:45 PM
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Although one thing's for sure; that whole 2035 goal of no petrol/diesel car sales is only realistic for developed countries with a stable grid.

Not to mention how much it would cost to rebuild petrol/diesel stations into EV only. I think that current fuel stations are long term investments, and by the year 2035, not all of them would reach 0 in invested:earned ratio. I think the process of replacing fuel with electric charging station would cost a lot, and would trigger to electricity, facilities price to rocket. Which will affect into becoming expensive to charge EV. And at that moment, EV car owners would start complaining and wish old cars to get back.

 
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July 18, 2024, 08:59:26 PM
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Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

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The landmark law will require carmakers to cut down CO2 emissions by 100 percent.
The 100 percent cut in CO2 emissions from new cars sold would make it impossible to sell petrol or diesel-powered cars in the 27-country bloc. The law that comes into effect in phases that will require a 55 percent cut in CO2 emissions for new cars starting 2030, which is a much higher target in comparison to the current 37.5 percent.

Source ---> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/electric-cars/no-petrol/diesel-car-sales-by-2035-european-parliament-approves-ban/articleshow/97939363.cms

Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

Eventually we will hit a day when oil starts to run out or becomes prohibitively expensive to use for fuel in cars. We have been using it for a long time now and will probably continue to use it for many more decades, however there will also be a peak for demand affected by many factors. It will actually be a good thing, because certain countries get to abuse their access to oil and keep some very nasty people in power. What the EU is trying to do is admirable, but I expect it to get pushed back. Ultimately, if we can clean up the process for creating renewable fuels and the battery technology so it's less harmful than fossil fuels, then people in cities and towns could start to breath much cleaner air which is better for us all.
We should thinkg that petrol/diesel is really just that not only used by cars but also in machiniries as well on which we know that it wont really be everything if ever there would really be a full integration from those ICE
to pure EV on which it would really be that hard to believe on such stuff. This is why it wouldnt really be that just right that we would really be saying that ICE cars would really be that ceease to exist due to that EV
invention or simply having this kind of huge changes but rather i would really be seeing some hybrids near in the future but totally eradicating petrol or diesel would really be that impossible. This isnt really just that talking about being a huge industry but actually into its relevance considering that we are really that running up some machiniries that does still needing up these substances.

Reality or dream? It doesnt matter because people would really be that eventually making out adjustments on the time or moment that they will really be dealing up with something. Decisions would be made in regarding
to this would really be that still a long time debate and also those oil companies wouldnt really be letting for this industry to go into the floor. This is why we wont really be that able to make those
kind of conclusions on this matter.

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