UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

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Real Madrid must have found out how bad they were against Manchester City. They will really need to make a big improvement for next season. They need to stay strong in offense and defense both. Manchester City just tore their defense apart in the second leg. Now Benzema has left the team people are wondering who will be filling his space in the team.

Real Madrid should make their investment in the right way to become much more competitive in the Champions League again. They can actually make some adjustments in the defense line as well. Because I found the defenders quite desperate against Manchester City attackers.

Actually, Real Madrid played a very poor game last season against Manchester City in the champions league and laliga league, Manchester City were in good form last season, winning the EPL and the champions league, I don't think Madrid will go founder in the champions league because they don't have a good striker that can help the team weller Ancelotti should leave the club if he is not helping again before the transfer window closes. Ancelotti stated that he does not require any strikers at this time. Madrid would suffer first before scoring a goal in the league or the Champions League if it is not for Bellingham who is assisting Real Madrid.

Since Benzema left Real Madrid, I know the team will suffer for the rest of the season because Ancelotti did not sign a good striker to help the team, carvaja is injured, and Vini jr is injury too, In the champions league competition, even if Real Madrid qualify to the round of 16, I believe they will be eliminated because they will face a strong team in the round of 16, but anything can happen if Ancelotti changes is statist of playing.

[superman184]

PSG lost many players this summer and this team changed a lot that's why we can see in the French League, that PSG is not in a good situation. We know they spent lots of money this summer but still, this cannot be the reason to say PSG can pass the grouping stage because the other teams like AC Milan and Newcastle are just not in good form but they can get back in shape and all the all three teams very strong opponents for PSG.

It will always be quite exciting to watch the matches in Group F because the four teams there are the best teams even though PSG is not much better than last season if judged from their performance in their domestic league this season. However, in the Champions League, PSG can also return to being fit and strong like the other three teams, so the chance of PSG qualifying for the next round is still not lost. Likewise with the other three teams, although I am not sure about Dortmund's strength in Group F.

[makishart]

Regarding the game between Newcastle and AC Milan, both teams had bad performances and since AC Milan is not in good form I could predict see this performance from them but this Newcastlewe see in this season is far from what we saw in the last season and they not performing well at all.
Even Vidal said this game was not a good game and he said Newcastle was disgusting.

Newcastle has a solid performance against intermilan. If you are still taking what vidal said and that's bullshit man. Vidal was acmilan haters caused by he has been playing for acmilan's competitor (Intermilan & juventus).
You will never ever see him to praise acmilan. It's bullshit to see him said like that. His comment was even disgusting than the game between newcastle vs milan.

Newcastle was trying so hard to defend its club from any attack that was coming from its opponent. I see nothing wrong with it. Acmilan was attacking newcastle like crazy. Newcastle's goal keeper should become man of the match during that game as he made a bunch of great saves.
I think that howe knew what was his fault and he is trying to make sure his club will able to perform better once newcastle will face PSG very soon.
I can't even wait to see mbappe play in the st james park. Newcastle is not yet using all of its potential.

[Altryist]

It will always be quite exciting to watch the matches in Group F because the four teams there are the best teams even though PSG is not much better than last season if judged from their performance in their domestic league this season. However, in the Champions League, PSG can also return to being fit and strong like the other three teams, so the chance of PSG qualifying for the next round is still not lost. Likewise with the other three teams, although I am not sure about Dortmund's strength in Group F.

PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

[rahmad2nd]

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Regarding the game between Newcastle and AC Milan, both teams had bad performances and since AC Milan is not in good form I could predict see this performance from them but this Newcastlewe see in this season is far from what we saw in the last season and they not performing well at all.
Even Vidal said this game was not a good game and he said Newcastle was disgusting.



https://talksport.com/football/1575281/arturo-vidal-newcastle-disgusting-champions-league-ac-milan/

IMO, it's not just their appearance that's bad. but Pioli really hasn't changed their style of play much, the same as last season. Likewise with Eddie Howe, I often said it in previous posts. If he doesn't change his system, then they will have difficulty playing match after match in various competitions. and it has been proven, Newcastle players have difficulty scoring goals in both the Premier League and Champions League.

As for Newcastle last season, it was a coincidence that their players were quite productive in terms of scoring goals. but we can see this season, the system implemented by Eddie Howe is not working at all.
Just like Milan in the 2021-2022 season which won the Scudetto, but the system they implemented in the following seasons is outdated and no longer effective. But at least Milan still has a chance to qualify for the next round, but it won't be easy. Well, what about Newcastle, will they be able to overthrow PSG with the same style of play. In fact, I quite doubt it. Nevertheless, we just follow it because football is unique and sometimes every result can be beyond our predictions.

[Hirose UK]

PSG lost many players this summer and this team changed a lot that's why we can see in the French League, that PSG is not in a good situation. We know they spent lots of money this summer but still, this cannot be the reason to say PSG can pass the grouping stage because the other teams like AC Milan and Newcastle are just not in good form but they can get back in shape and all the all three teams very strong opponents for PSG.

It will always be quite exciting to watch the matches in Group F because the four teams there are the best teams even though PSG is not much better than last season if judged from their performance in their domestic league this season. However, in the Champions League, PSG can also return to being fit and strong like the other three teams, so the chance of PSG qualifying for the next round is still not lost. Likewise with the other three teams, although I am not sure about Dortmund's strength in Group F.

Group F will be a group that is quite difficult for us to determine which of the 4 teams will be the strongest but after the second match maybe we can see who will be better, when latter PSG plays Newcastle and PSG can win the match then they has a total of 6 points so that makes it possible to maintain its superiority over the other three teams.

Dortmund was indeed disappointing when they lost to PSG in the first match but next Dortmund will meet AC Milan and when Dortmund loses in this match Dortmund hopes of qualifying for the last 16 are over.
But so far in the future let see together whether what is being talked about a lot that PSG will be first in Group F it really happens.

[KTChampions]

PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify   But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

[Razmirraz]

PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify   But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

It's natural that PSG fans are very afraid if Mbappe gets injured. After Neymar and Messi left, Mbappe became the hope for the fans to maintain the sharpness of PSG's front line. Fortunately, Mbappe did not suffer a serious injury, he can still play in the next match, his condition is also very good.
PSG must perform optimally when they visit Newcastle, the players must maintain consistent performance because the opponent they face has just destroyed Sheffield United with a landslide score of 8-0. Newcastle could make PSG suffer if they don't play according to plan, Luis Enrique must be able to lead PSG to win their second match in the UCL to make their way to the next round easier.

[asriloni]

PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify  But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

I can't imagine if PSG will be coming to the james park with ramos instead of mbappe which has more experience compared with him. Ramos might seem perform so well against marseille but Newcastle is different and it's EPL team which is competing in the most competitive league in the world.
I don't even know what to say but PSG shall go to the james park with mbappe. That's a must. Mbappe probably become a key for PSG to quality for play off. Three points on james park is really important to give more lives to the PSG.
I read that some news published that if dembele may be leaving from the club as he is not feeling confidence to stay in the club even longer. Arsenal is putting him under their radar.

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PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify   But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

[Asiska02]

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify   But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

Why would the fans think that the injury of Mbappe will make them lose the match. They shouldn’t have all their hopes on one player to always make the change and win matches for them, this is more important for the other team players to have in mind. Mbappe can take in injury at anytime, at training or even playing match, so they should always be another alternative to him even though the alternative can’t perform as much as he does but he should be also to make a difference as he does.

I read that some news published that if dembele may be leaving from the club as he is not feeling confidence to stay in the club even longer. Arsenal is putting him under their radar.

This is sad news for PSG if he leaves, I feel he will have a good time playing there and will have enough playing time. But what makes him not to feel confidence playing there again? This could be a negative sign to other players that really have interest in that club. No much of the players in that team always depart well, they much leave the club with some issues or personal problems with the club before leaving. I hope Dembele’s case becomes different and will be able to make a lot of contributions to the team before finally leaving.

[QueenVera]

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

Mbappé has a very vital role to play in the PSG this season and would need to be in a very good form and i know the whole team would be hoping his injury is not vety serious so he would be available for the match against Newcastle, against Clermont Food PSG should be able to secure the 3points without Mbappe's present, they're fsr better than Clermont foot this season and should essily beat them.

 But the major focus would be against Newcastle in the Champions league because Eddie Howe's team might not be as tough as theirs but shouldn't be underestimated because they could be taken by suprise and make them drop points, PSG should be very careful so as not to drop points and hopefully Mbappé would be available to play either of the halves or full-time.

[topbitcoin]

PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify   But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

That's actually quite reasonable because when Mbappe is injured then indirectly they (the fans) must panic because they realize that PSG cannot do much when Mbappe is not in the squad
Fortunately, the worry did not happen because Mbappe was only slightly bruised and could still return to play in the end in the next few matches.
This could be a bit convenient for PSG because with Mbappe in the squad they (the fans) can at least be more confident because until now even though PSG is filled with several big players, in the end Mbappe is the one who contributes the most.

[fzkto]

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

Mbappé has a very vital role to play in the PSG this season and would need to be in a very good form and i know the whole team would be hoping his injury is not vety serious so he would be available for the match against Newcastle, against Clermont Food PSG should be able to secure the 3points without Mbappe's present, they're fsr better than Clermont foot this season and should essily beat them.

 But the major focus would be against Newcastle in the Champions league because Eddie Howe's team might not be as tough as theirs but shouldn't be underestimated because they could be taken by suprise and make them drop points, PSG should be very careful so as not to drop points and hopefully Mbappé would be available to play either of the halves or full-time.

PSG played well against Dortmund and picked up three points. But Newcastle also played well away to Milan and managed not to lose their first game in the Champions League. But PSG won their last game easily against Marseille. And all the goals were scored without Mbappe's involvement. I think they should have no problem against Newcastle.

[Doell]

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

Mbappé has a very vital role to play in the PSG this season and would need to be in a very good form and i know the whole team would be hoping his injury is not vety serious so he would be available for the match against Newcastle, against Clermont Food PSG should be able to secure the 3points without Mbappe's present, they're fsr better than Clermont foot this season and should essily beat them.

 But the major focus would be against Newcastle in the Champions league because Eddie Howe's team might not be as tough as theirs but shouldn't be underestimated because they could be taken by suprise and make them drop points, PSG should be very careful so as not to drop points and hopefully Mbappé would be available to play either of the halves or full-time.

Mbappe has been important key player in the PSG squad so far, if he doesn't have serious injury, then of course he will be available in the match against Newcastle on UCL. At the moment I haven't found any information regarding Mbappe injury, but according to the rumors in my local media Mbappe injury is not too serious. So there is a possibility he will can recover soon and return to strengthen PSG attack line, but if Mbappe not 100% fit then it is unlikely he will play full time. Newcastle at home will try to secure full points, but it seems like they will also find difficult to get win, because PSG defense is not too weak.

[Smack That Ace]

PSG is gradually gaining shape and at the moment they are the leaders of Group F, so their chances are very good. Their opponents are worthy and PSG may well lose points in away matches, even Newcastle, which went through a series of losses, seems to have found its game again and is ready to move on. I think that in Group F, PSG have the best chance of leaving the group in first place, and I have no idea who can join them, everyone still has equal chances.

I think that yesterday when Mbappe was replaced due to injury, many PSG fans were seriously afraid that PSG would not be able to qualify   But judging by the news, this is an ordinary bruise and Mbappe will play in the next match. At the moment, PSG has become the favorite, but the very next game against Newcastle, which has gained momentum, could turn everything around.

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

The start of the season in the Premier League for Newcastle United has not been the best. They have struggled to find consistency in their performance. Well actually about PSG we can say the same. But PSG is at least improving. I think we can say that about PSG by looking at the last match that they have played. Personally, I think it is going to be a very competitive match between these two teams. The match even ended up in a draw. Because currently, it is very hard to say that one team is way better compared to the other.

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Duke

[tusandii]

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

Mbappé has a very vital role to play in the PSG this season and would need to be in a very good form and i know the whole team would be hoping his injury is not vety serious so he would be available for the match against Newcastle, against Clermont Food PSG should be able to secure the 3points without Mbappe's present, they're fsr better than Clermont foot this season and should essily beat them.

 But the major focus would be against Newcastle in the Champions league because Eddie Howe's team might not be as tough as theirs but shouldn't be underestimated because they could be taken by suprise and make them drop points, PSG should be very careful so as not to drop points and hopefully Mbappé would be available to play either of the halves or full-time.

Don't worry about Mbappe suffering a serious injury because if I look at yesterday's match Mbappe will not suffer a serious injury and he will appear to defend PSG when they face Newcastle in the Champions League match later and it seems coach Enrique is also a little afraid if Mbappe suffers a serious injury because after all In fact, Enrique also depends on Mbappe. What I mean is that Enrique relies more on Mbappe to score to secure the win because without this player PSG seems very empty or doesn't have a strong performance in Mbappe's match.
We'll see if Enrique is able to give his best when Mbappe can't attend the match and I'm not sure whether Enrique will be able to bring PSG to secure any victory.

[legendbtc]

I will name the top 4 candidates for the Champions League title this season.
First is my favorite name: Bayern. They maintain an unbeaten record this season in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
I must always have to mention Man City because they are the defending champions. They have a good squad and are led by a talented and experienced coach.
Next is a Barca team that has been at a high level since Xavi took over as the team's head coach.
And the last name I want to mention is Real Madrid, even though they were recently defeated by Atletico in La Liga. They have a history with the most championship trophies. With this arena, they will pay more attention. It is also possible that they win the championship this season.

[Wiwo]

The match versus Newcastle will take place on October 5, before this meeting PSG is scheduled to visit Clermont headquarters first in Ligue 1. If Mbappe miss the match versus Clermont, I think PSG can still secure full points. Luckily for Luis Enrique he didn't lose Mbappe for a long time, his role in the PSG squad is difficult to replace. His role was really needed when they met Newcastle, Eddie Howe squad had just achieved a big victory over Sheffield United.

Enrique must be wary of Newcastle if he doesn't want to lose points, the match versus Clermont could be a moment to increase his self-confidence before meeting The Magpies. I'm pretty sure PSG can win this match, Enrique squad is still very much the favorite in Group F at the moment. Milan has the opportunity to qualify by filling the runnerup position, Dortmund and Newcastle have a smaller chance. However anything can still happen, this is the most difficult group to predict.

Mbappé has a very vital role to play in the PSG this season and would need to be in a very good form and i know the whole team would be hoping his injury is not vety serious so he would be available for the match against Newcastle, against Clermont Food PSG should be able to secure the 3points without Mbappe's present, they're fsr better than Clermont foot this season and should essily beat them.

 But the major focus would be against Newcastle in the Champions league because Eddie Howe's team might not be as tough as theirs but shouldn't be underestimated because they could be taken by suprise and make them drop points, PSG should be very careful so as not to drop points and hopefully Mbappé would be available to play either of the halves or full-time.

Don't worry about Mbappe suffering a serious injury because if I look at yesterday's match Mbappe will not suffer a serious injury and he will appear to defend PSG when they face Newcastle in the Champions League match later and it seems coach Enrique is also a little afraid if Mbappe suffers a serious injury because after all In fact, Enrique also depends on Mbappe. What I mean is that Enrique relies more on Mbappe to score to secure the win because without this player PSG seems very empty or doesn't have a strong performance in Mbappe's match.
We'll see if Enrique is able to give his best when Mbappe can't attend the match and I'm not sure whether Enrique will be able to bring PSG to secure any victory.

Why do the faith of PSG depends so much on a single player like Mbappe because most discussions that involve the club lately since the last match seems to point to the fact that the fan is scared of the possible position that PGS will end up in if mbappe become unavoidably unavailable in the coming matches.

This is the reason why clubs need to build a reliable team's that only the absence of a player will not affect the performance of the club in subsequent matches like what we are discussing right now.

[Helena Yu]

I will name the top 4 candidates for the Champions League title this season.
First is my favorite name: Bayern. They maintain an unbeaten record this season in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
I must always have to mention Man City because they are the defending champions. They have a good squad and are led by a talented and experienced coach.
Next is a Barca team that has been at a high level since Xavi took over as the team's head coach.
And the last name I want to mention is Real Madrid, even though they were recently defeated by Atletico in La Liga. They have a history with the most championship trophies. With this arena, they will pay more attention. It is also possible that they win the championship this season.

Man, it's too obvious.

Most of people have a same mind like you when you're using the present statistic to define the top 4 candidates.

I think it's not the right time to guess the top 4 candidates, we need to wait until the quarter final, this will be interesting when the 4 teams you mentioned above are meet each other, so there's will be a new candidate comes up.