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October 20, 2023, 11:38:25 AM
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I am sorry to say this that this Pakistani side has zero idea how to stop the Australian batters.

If you drop the catch, it's not the bowlers fault at all. I'm sure bowlers lose their confidence when their mates can't catch. Taking catch of Warner at 10 would have completely changed the game.

i won't mind meme level fielding for some fun.

This I agree Tongue
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October 20, 2023, 11:42:35 AM
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Australia are 4-down now. David Warner finally got out, to the bowling of Haris Rauf. He made a super-human 163 from 124 balls, that included 9 sixes. Josh Inglis and Marcus Stoinis at the crease now, and they are known for power-hitting. Australia at 330/4 after 43 overs. 10 runs per over should get them past 400. Even this total would not be the highest in the tournament so far. South Africa made 428 against Sri Lanka a few days back. But it should be more than enough to get 2 points and a good NRR boost from this match.

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October 20, 2023, 11:45:48 AM
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I am sorry to say this that this Pakistani side has zero idea how to stop the Australian batters.

If you drop the catch, it's not the bowlers but the fielding is to be blamed. I'm sure bowlers lose their confidence when their mates can't catch. Taking catch of Warner at 10 would have completely changed the game.


Yeah after one drop catch the bowlers lost all thier confidence that Warner scored 163 runs. Blaming the fielding doesn't look good when Pakistan has some of best bowlers in thier side. Just look at the bowling figures of Rauf and Afridi, they were hammered by both Warner and Marsh all over the stadium. Things have gone from bad to worst for Pakistan and it will reflect when they come to bat.

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October 20, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
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Australia are 4-down now. David Warner finally got out, to the bowling of Haris Rauf. He made a super-human 163 from 124 balls, that included 9 sixes. Josh Inglis and Marcus Stoinis at the crease now, and they are known for power-hitting. Australia at 330/4 after 43 overs. 10 runs per over should get them past 400. Even this total would not be the highest in the tournament so far. South Africa made 428 against Sri Lanka a few days back. But it should be more than enough to get 2 points and a good NRR boost from this match.

At the end of 45 overs, Australia scored 163 runs off 338124 balls, losing 4 wickets. I think the target for today's match will be around 390-400. The performance of the Pakistani bowlers was poor from the beginning of the innings. I thought the bowling attack of this team was very strong. But in every match I have seen poor performances from Pakistani bowlers.

Warner is back in form. And he would return to the truck in such a magnificent way it was unimaginable. He collected 163 runs off 124 balls. Mitchell Marsh scored 121 off 108 balls. With the responsible batting of the two openers, Australia is able to provide a big target today. Pakistan's batting order is not weak. But their performance is erratic. But I think Pakistan have the ability to bat against big targets and win.

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Maybe.. but against weak teams like Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Do you really believe that they are capable of chasing down a near-400 total against quality bowlers such as Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins and Josh Hazlewood? And now Adam Zampa is also in great form. BTW, the absence of a quality spinner has really hurt Pakistan in this match. Usama Mir's figures read 9-0-82-1, while Mohammad Nawaz returned 7-0-43-0. The most expensive bowler is Haris Rauf BTW. His numbers are 6-0-72-2. But then he picked up two important wickets (that of David Warner and Josh Inglis).

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October 20, 2023, 12:06:32 PM
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Maybe.. but against weak teams like Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Do you really believe that they are capable of chasing down a near-400 total against quality bowlers such as Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins and Josh Hazlewood? And now Adam Zampa is also in great form. BTW, the absence of a quality spinner has really hurt Pakistan in this match. Usama Mir's figures read 9-0-82-1, while Mohammad Nawaz returned 7-0-43-0. The most expensive bowler is Haris Rauf BTW. His numbers are 6-0-72-2. But then he picked up two important wickets (that of David Warner and Josh Inglis).

I am not saying that Pakistan will win by batting around 400 targets today. But I would say they have this capability. I saw that they batted brilliantly against Sri Lanka. At the same time, I will say that against South Africa and India, the Australian bowlers did not do well. South Africa scored 311 runs. And India scored 201 runs in 41.2 overs. The performance of Australia's bowlers was average in both these matches. But it is very difficult to win against any team by batting at a target of around 400 runs. Still, I think the match will be competitive. Pakistan team may not be defeated by a huge margin.

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October 20, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
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I am sorry to say this that this Pakistani side has zero idea how to stop the Australian batters.

If you drop the catch, it's not the bowlers but the fielding is to be blamed. I'm sure bowlers lose their confidence when their mates can't catch. Taking catch of Warner at 10 would have completely changed the game.


Yeah after one drop catch the bowlers lost all thier confidence that Warner scored 163 runs. Blaming the fielding doesn't look good when Pakistan has some of best bowlers in thier side. Just look at the bowling figures of Rauf and Afridi, they were hammered by both Warner and Marsh all over the stadium. Things have gone from bad to worst for Pakistan and it will reflect when they come to bat.

Ah, Warner was dropped before making century as well. Rauf was smashed hard but not Afridi, his economy rate was under 5 before he closed his early overs quota and when he came back he took two important wickets (Marsh, Maxwell), he's the reason Aussies probably won't even cross 400 now.

I feel you don't realize how much difference wicket makes (in getting other wickets), 46 overs completed as of writing and openers are the only reason Aussie got the score they have.
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October 20, 2023, 12:09:42 PM
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Pakistan's bowling was literally destroyed by the two openers today and not to forget the sloppy fielding effort from Pakistan when they initially dropped Warner by Osama Mir even though the catch is simple.

After 40 overs they made a small comeback but I feel the damage is already done by Australia and chasing down big scores will always put the extra pressure since they have to keep an eye on the required run rate every ball.

As of now, 354/6 at the end of 47.2, Can Pakistan chase 380?

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October 20, 2023, 12:17:12 PM
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Pakistan's bowling was literally destroyed by the two openers today and not to forget the sloppy fielding effort from Pakistan when they initially dropped Warner by Osama Mir even though the catch is simple.

After 40 overs they made a small comeback but I feel the damage is already done by Australia and chasing down big scores will always put the extra pressure since they have to keep an eye on the required run rate every ball.

As of now, 354/6 at the end of 47.2, Can Pakistan chase 380?
Today's match was helped by Pakistan's poor captaincy and David Warner's missed catch of 163 runs. However, Pakistan will be defeated by David Warner's 163 and Mitchell Marsh's 121 runs in today's match.
Pakistan won't have any chance of winning if the target is 350 runs in today's match but Australia has already set a target of 360 runs and in the end if they can play 50 overs then Australia's run target will be like 380 runs which is impossible to beat Pakistan with Australia.

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October 20, 2023, 12:17:17 PM
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Australia at 360/7. At one point it looked as if they will make somewhere around 400. But now it will be surprising even if they can get to 370. Australian wickets fell like a pack of cards, with Haris Rauf making a strong comeback. His initial spell was 4-0-69-0. And his second spell went for 4-0-14-3 (and that too while bowling at depth overs). This is perhaps the most extreme comeback from a bowler that I have witnessed in world cup matches. Australia has reasons to be disappointed, but they need to win this match and get a good NRR boost out of it.

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October 20, 2023, 12:24:20 PM
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Pakistan won an excellent toss and 20% of the battle because according to every report, dew will surely come into play tonight which is a nightmare for a team bowling second.

Now their seamers need to do their job with the new ball so that they can make life easy for their spinners in the middle overs, also fielders can't afford to be sloppy in the field against the Aussie. Having said that i won't mind meme level fielding for some fun.  

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Vintage Pakistani fielding, drop a sitter.  

I am sorry to say this that this Pakistani side has zero idea how to stop the Australian batters. Today might again go in the history books of World Cup cricket as Australians are eyeing a target of 450. Warner is still batting and has already scored his century. They have 8 wickets in hand, most of their batters who are yet to come can accelerate the current run rate of 10. Plenty of overs still left for this first session to end.

Regardless of the dew factor the psychological gain by Australian side if they are able to give a mammoth of target will destroy Pakistani batting. We have seen how bad are Pakistani batters perform when they play in pressure.
This is a batting pitch and defending is not an easy task here in Chinnaswamy, happened so many times in the IPL.

Post Warner, it has been an atrocious batting display from Australia. They messed up with their finish and short at least 30-40 runs here and with dew coming in, it could be tricky for them. The only positive thing is their bowling lineup is better than Sri Lanka and they would hope for scoreboard pressure.  

i won't mind meme level fielding for some fun.

This I agree Tongue

Warner's score was 10 when he was dropped. That's a costly drop, let's see if it cost them a match or not.
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October 20, 2023, 12:25:42 PM
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In the end, Australia's innings ended on 367 runs. They should have collected more than 400. Because the two openers batted brilliantly. The team lost 9 wickets to collect these 367 runs.

After collecting 259 runs from the first wicket pair, the team could not collect 300 runs. The middle order batted very poorly. Apart from the two openers, no other player can bat well. Australia collected only 28 runs in the last 6 overs. I expected some better batting from Australia's middle order.

Pakistan's fielding was not good enough today. If the fielding was good, they could have stopped the Australian team within 350. Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled brilliantly today. If one more bowler like Afridi did well today, Australia would not have collected so much. He took 5 wickets for just 54 runs in 10 overs. However, let's see how Pakistan performs batting against such a big target.

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October 20, 2023, 12:35:14 PM
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Australia are 245/0 after 33 overs. Both the openers have scored their respective hundreds. That catch drop by Usama was the turning point of the match. Both the batters are well set, and now they will accelerate more and try to put runs at a higher run rate.
Australia is looking for a target of well over 400 at the moment until Pakistan bowlers produce some heroics. It looks like Pakistan has already lost the match.
The Pakistani bowlers made a very good comeback in the last 15 overs, but still, it's a massive total 367/9 on board for Australia. Now Pakistan will have to do something historical to win this match. Shaheen Afridi with a brilliant spell in Bengaluru 3rd ODI Fifer for Shaheen Afridi, amid the run feast. Shaheen kept in the match by picking up 5 wickets regularly. I think its have a different story if Usama had caught Warner early off his bowling. David Warner Dropped on 10, Dropped by Usama Mir, who is playing his first match in the world cup, ended up inning by scoring David Warner out 163(124)

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October 20, 2023, 12:44:57 PM
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In the end, Australia's innings ended on 367 runs. They should have collected more than 400. Because the two openers batted brilliantly. The team lost 9 wickets to collect these 367 runs.

After collecting 259 runs from the first wicket pair, the team could not collect 300 runs. The middle order batted very poorly. Apart from the two openers, no other player can bat well. Australia collected only 28 runs in the last 6 overs. I expected some better batting from Australia's middle order.

Pakistan's fielding was not good enough today. If the fielding was good, they could have stopped the Australian team within 350. Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled brilliantly today. If one more bowler like Afridi did well today, Australia would not have collected so much. He took 5 wickets for just 54 runs in 10 overs. However, let's see how Pakistan performs batting against such a big target.

After 33 overs, Australia's total was 245/0. In the last 17 overs they collected 122 runs and lost 9 wickets. They averaged a little over 7 runs per over. The batting of Australia's two openers looked like they would deliver a target of over 400. But after the two openers are out, no batsman can bat responsibly. The two openers put together 284 runs today and Pakistan gave 25 extra runs. The collection of the remaining 9 batsmen of Australia was only 58 runs. Had Maxwell or Smith been able to stay at the crease, the team could have collected around 400.

Haris Rouf scored the most runs among Pakistani bowlers today. Despite picking up three wickets, he conceded 83 runs in 8 overs. I miss Naseem Shah today. If Naseem Shah was in the squad along with Afridi, maybe Pakistan's bowling attack would have been stronger.

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October 20, 2023, 01:04:17 PM
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Australia set Pakistan a mammoth target of 368 runs but lost the first two matches of Australia's World Cup, but managed a resounding win against Sri Lanka. Keeping his consistency, Australia batted very well against Pakistan. Australia stopped at 259 runs in the opening pair. If only 24 runs could have been scored, Warner and Mitchell Marsh would have scored the highest opening in the World Cup. I think it will be very difficult for Pakistan to bat against the target of 368 runs. However, as cricket is a game of uncertainty, you never know what will happen. Pakistan should be batting well now we have seen another good game from them they had an excellent win against Sri Lanka. If he can play like that, today's match may be close to victory.
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It's true that Bangladesh improved their bowling, but not enough.

It's a shame for the Bangladesh Cricket Team. Especially the failure of Santo, Miraj, and Towhid Hridoy. Bangladesh Cricket Team depends on their performance. On the other hand, Musfiqur Rahim, and Mahamudullah Riyed played so much better from Middle-Order-Batsman. Proverb said, They again proved, "Old is Gold".

Yet, The board president of BCB was confused about where Mahmudullah would play. If you see his interviews, he said I do not see any position where Mahmudullah could play, who he replace? Towhid Hridoy and some other players were auto-choice for them. They talked about his fitness, his age, his strike rate. They should shame theirself. Mahmudullah shows what he can do.

Mahmudullah was the batter with the highest strike rate in that match. Another fun fact is Mahmudullah is top batter who scored most sixes in ODI World Cup for Bangladesh. The selectors should stop now.

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October 20, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
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I was checking the betting odds of today's match. The odds are in favour of Australia. Missed the Australian batting but looking at the target it seems the openers did a good job. Pakistan is again dependent on Babar Azam and Rizwan if they want to chase this target. I don't think any other batter in their team has the ability to single handedly chase 368 runs.

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October 20, 2023, 01:23:34 PM
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In the end, Australia's innings ended on 367 runs. They should have collected more than 400. Because the two openers batted brilliantly. The team lost 9 wickets to collect these 367 runs.

After collecting 259 runs from the first wicket pair, the team could not collect 300 runs. The middle order batted very poorly. Apart from the two openers, no other player can bat well. Australia collected only 28 runs in the last 6 overs. I expected some better batting from Australia's middle order.

Pakistan's fielding was not good enough today. If the fielding was good, they could have stopped the Australian team within 350. Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled brilliantly today. If one more bowler like Afridi did well today, Australia would not have collected so much. He took 5 wickets for just 54 runs in 10 overs. However, let's see how Pakistan performs batting against such a big target.
After 33 overs, Australia's total was 245/0. In the last 17 overs they collected 122 runs and lost 9 wickets. They averaged a little over 7 runs per over. The batting of Australia's two openers looked like they would deliver a target of over 400. But after the two openers are out, no batsman can bat responsibly. The two openers put together 284 runs today and Pakistan gave 25 extra runs. The collection of the remaining 9 batsmen of Australia was only 58 runs. Had Maxwell or Smith been able to stay at the crease, the team could have collected around 400.

Haris Rouf scored the most runs among Pakistani bowlers today. Despite picking up three wickets, he conceded 83 runs in 8 overs. I miss Naseem Shah today. If Naseem Shah was in the squad along with Afridi, maybe Pakistan's bowling attack would have been stronger.

I won't say there is absolutely no chance of Pakistan winning. This is a much more difficult task, but it is not impossible. The outfield is very fast. If Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease, they have a chance to win this match. Scoring runs will not be too difficult if Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease. But the performance of Pakistan's batsmen is very erratic. They cannot be trusted.

Pakistani openers Imam Ul Haque and Abdullah Shafique have started well. Pakistan collected 40 runs in 5 overs. The team has not lost any wicket yet. They are batting very smoothly. Abdullah scored 10 runs from 11 balls and Imam Ul Haque remained unbeaten with 25 runs from 19 balls. If the opening pair is prolonged, the match will become more competitive.

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October 20, 2023, 01:34:20 PM
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The way Australia batted today was really good, I thought Pakistan might bowl well today, but they didn't bowl that well. Pakistan didn't bowl very well at the start and gave Australia a lot of runs due to which Australia today scored 367 runs for the loss of 9 wickets. However, the duo of Australia's two batsmen was outstanding, especially Mitchell Marsh and Warner with an average of 284 runs. Both of them had a batting performance to watch and put up strong batting due to which they were making huge scores and scored brilliant centuries. Australia managed to collect so many runs for the pair of these two batsmen in today's match, but the target given by Australia may be under a lot of pressure to meet Pakistan. The way Australia scored runs at the beginning of the game. That's exactly how Pakistan will need to score runs to meet the target. Now if Pakistan can play sustainably and bat well then it will be possible to reach the target.

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October 20, 2023, 01:40:19 PM
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I won't say there is absolutely no chance of Pakistan winning. This is a much more difficult task, but it is not impossible. The outfield is very fast. If Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease, they have a chance to win this match. Scoring runs will not be too difficult if Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease. But the performance of Pakistan's batsmen is very erratic. They cannot be trusted.

Pakistani openers Imam Ul Haque and Abdullah Shafique have started well. Pakistan collected 40 runs in 5 overs. The team has not lost any wicket yet. They are batting very smoothly. Abdullah scored 10 runs from 11 balls and Imam Ul Haque remained unbeaten with 25 runs from 19 balls. If the opening pair is prolonged, the match will become more competitive.

Chasing down a score of 360+ is never easy, no matter what the pitch is like. But runs are coming from Pakistani batters, which is a good sign. However, they need to be cautious about not losing wickets quickly because if they lose 2/3, it puts them under pressure. Still, I believe Pakistan has a chance to chase this total, especially on this flat track with a small boundary. It's an opportunity for them to score and win the game. But, Australia is the favorite, and I think they might win comfortably.
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