Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[Porfirii]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

[EarnOnVictor]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

Betcoin and Nitrobetting allow US and rarely KYC.

I believe @ jerry0 is asking for the no-KYC casinos that allow US players, but I strongly advise him against this or do that at his own risk. Be sure that you know the integrity of the casinos you want to deal with before doing so, and for them not to allow KYC means that they are not regulated, they could have too much illegality they are perpetrating, which I do not think good people themselves would want to associate with.

Come to think of it, what are people running away from when it comes to KYC? It seems people are taking it farther than it is actually. These people do KYC elsewhere in other fields and with fiat dealings because it's compulsory, so why is it difficult when it comes to crypto-related dealings including gambling?

Lastly, "rarely" doesn't mean "certainty," I hope the guy also note that.

[blckhawk]

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On the other side of that coin, the casino would argue that the user had agreed to the terms of service upon signing up, and within that terms of services were the clauses that stated the information about KYC.

It would be interesting to see a case due to the conflict of your opinion and mine here. I think that with the financial and legal powers that casinos have, they would prevail. Or, they would be forced to give the balance back due to the unawareness, but only after putting the claimant under the pressure of a long battle.

I would agree with you but the casino needs to be covering their bases because if the users that would take them to court, they would probably argue that they were not reminded or that the casino probably added the KYC clause on the Terms and Condition agreement after they have registered which is not a likely thing for them to do. There is probably a case similar to this already in existence because this kind of case happening could happen in other scenarios although it is probably different in a way that this is gambling because this could be argued like a breach in contract.

[jerry0]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

Betcoin and Nitrobetting allow US and rarely KYC.

Is nitrobetting the same as nitrogensports?


Betcoin was always that name?


So with these sites you only deposit/withdraw and bet with btc?  And not usd or euro correct?  What about using other altcoins like ltc to deposit/withdraw or they don't allow that?

[jerry0]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

Well if I'm abroad what the KYC they would ask me for is my US passport right?  However, what about my address?  If I have a non us address utility bill, that is fine right since well I'm outside the US and not using a vpn?  I mean there is no point of me sending a US bank account as a utility bill right because I'm not in the US and also my IP address will show that?


So for gambling sites I play on when outside the US... I'm not talking about crypto betting sites, I have no issue playing there because I have a non US utility bill that I use because that is where I stay at when outside the US.  But with crypto sites, will there be an issue?  Would it be better sending them KYC first with my US passport and my non US utility bill and once it's good, then I can play and withdraw without any issues in the future?  Thus I want my account to be clear for withdraws before I even deposit.  Does that make sense?  Do sites allow you to do that?  I know many gambling sites... noncrypto would allow you to deposit into the site but once you request a withdraw, they ask for KYC.  Again I have no issue with KYC but any issue with being an American but abroad is my question.  There is no issue with that on non crypto gambling sites I play on.  And when I say non crypto gambling sites... I mean sites that don't allow betting amounts to be in crypto.  Some of these sites do allow crypto as deposit/withdraw... but everything is in usd if you know what I mean?


I have no intention of using a vpn while abroad.  If I was in the US, I have no intention of using it abroad.  The thing is I'm abroad outside a lot so the address I would use would be a non US address so would that be an issue with these crypto sites?

[Hamphser]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

Betcoin and Nitrobetting allow US and rarely KYC.

Is nitrobetting the same as nitrogensports?


Betcoin was always that name?


So with these sites you only deposit/withdraw and bet with btc?  And not usd or euro correct?  What about using other altcoins like ltc to deposit/withdraw or they don't allow that?

https://nitrobetting.eu
https://www.betcoin.ag
https://www.bk8usd.com/en-us/home

Try to visit these bookies. I would like to include sportsbet.io as well on the list.
When it comes to options of the coins that they are accepting then they do have tons of choice, so its up to you on what you would gonna choose.
I can attest these sites are legit and also that reputable.

When it comes on choosing sites whether a bookie or a casino then it would really be always best that you should really make up some research first before
you would really be planning to make some deposit.Always verify first and not only just making a single research.

[arwin100]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

I don't know if there's a person gets a problem with this kind of scenario but I think its fine since they are currently not on restricted country and playing on allowed premises. So I guess they just need to provide proof that can easily check out that they are not on US and in a country where they are allowed to play. For that maybe if there's proof to be shown a casino would provably allow the user to withdraw all the winnings if there's a withdrawal request also to continue to play at them if I'm not wrong with this. But to make it more clearer I guess its better to ask the casino representative regarding on this case since maybe they could allow those people who currently not on restricted regions to play on their casino.

[vv181]

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I'm pretty sure most casinos stated they require a KYC and any related verification requirements within their site. When the user signs up, they must accept the terms of service or terms and conditions. Any related information regarding KYC must be stated over there, so they did not necessarily need to state it clearly because it has already been stated on the terms. The problem is most users are ignorant or do not even bother to look over the documents that they agreed/accepted upon.

The first thing a gambler should do is to read through the terms and conditions of the casino and also be able to understand them at all times, be for you even make an account on such a casino,  and this is what most casino users don't understand,  some of them just go ahead with account creation even though they have not properly read and understand the terms and conditions of the service and how the level of their KYC have been.

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

It has been a general habit that most users don't do actually read TnC or ToS even though they agreed when signing up. We can't do much and I myself sometimes fall into that scenario.

Nevertheless, concerning gambling sites where identity verification sometimes is a questionable condition, it should be necessary for users to, at least, skim the terms. Users can easily use the feature find in the page to search the word like "KYC", "identity", "AML", and any related words. That alone should give a basic sense of whether KYC is a prerequisite in some particular site.

It's similar to jaywalking, it's the same law everywhere but not enforced in some places. KYC has the same rules everywhere, some casinos don't enforce. Play at the casinos that don't KYC.

That is good and straightforward advice that many gamblers sometimes don't practice. They can choose and decide on which places they play. especially if KYC is their concern.

[slapper]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

Well if I'm abroad what the KYC they would ask me for is my US passport right?  However, what about my address?  If I have a non us address utility bill, that is fine right since well I'm outside the US and not using a vpn?  I mean there is no point of me sending a US bank account as a utility bill right because I'm not in the US and also my IP address will show that?


So for gambling sites I play on when outside the US... I'm not talking about crypto betting sites, I have no issue playing there because I have a non US utility bill that I use because that is where I stay at when outside the US.  But with crypto sites, will there be an issue?  Would it be better sending them KYC first with my US passport and my non US utility bill and once it's good, then I can play and withdraw without any issues in the future?  Thus I want my account to be clear for withdraws before I even deposit.  Does that make sense?  Do sites allow you to do that?  I know many gambling sites... noncrypto would allow you to deposit into the site but once you request a withdraw, they ask for KYC.  Again I have no issue with KYC but any issue with being an American but abroad is my question.  There is no issue with that on non crypto gambling sites I play on.  And when I say non crypto gambling sites... I mean sites that don't allow betting amounts to be in crypto.  Some of these sites do allow crypto as deposit/withdraw... but everything is in usd if you know what I mean?


I have no intention of using a vpn while abroad.  If I was in the US, I have no intention of using it abroad.  The thing is I'm abroad outside a lot so the address I would use would be a non US address so would that be an issue with these crypto sites?

Using a US passport for KYC abroad is standard because it proves your identity. For verification of residence outside the US, a non-US utility bill is usually accepted. The interesting part is that KYC verifies your identity and location, not citizenship. Your non-US address matches KYC's mission and your present living status. Due to rules, their KYC requirements can be unusual. Proactively giving your US passport and non-US utility bill sounds wise. This preemptive strike may simplify transactions and withdrawals later. Remember that each site is different; some investigate Americans overseas harder, while others are more tolerant. Your KYC approach says, "I am an American, yes, but here's where I currently reside." Laying your cards on the table may prevent future issues

[jerry0]

So I mentioned I do play on gambling sites but these sites don't all primarily use crypto as deposit/withdraw method.  They use ewallets like skrill etc.


I am already KYC with them a while back with my US passport and with my non-US utility bill in the abroad country that I'm in and I have no issues playing or depositing or withdrawing.


I wanted to know if there are any crypto sites that I can sign up for while outside the US where this would not be an issue.  The reason being lot of these crypto sites seem to not accept US citizens correct?  So even though I'm a US citizen but I'm abroad and have a non US utility bill, would that be enough to play there?  The thing is I don't want to deposit crypto and play there and only when I withdraw, they say even though you are abroad and have a non-US utility bill that you stay at, well because you are a US citizen, we won't pay you out whether it's your winnings or even your original deposit balance.  So wanted to know are there any sites like that. 

[khaled0111]

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This wouldn't be a problem only for casinos that accept players from the US. If the casino, be it a fiat or crypto casino, restricts players from the US or has the US on its blacklist then, as far as I know, you are not supposed to play there. Your account will probably get banned.
I believe it may be fine if you have citizenship of the other country where you are located. In that case just verify your identity with the other passport.

[Oilacris]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

I don't know if there's a person gets a problem with this kind of scenario but I think its fine since they are currently not on restricted country and playing on allowed premises. So I guess they just need to provide proof that can easily check out that they are not on US and in a country where they are allowed to play. For that maybe if there's proof to be shown a casino would provably allow the user to withdraw all the winnings if there's a withdrawal request also to continue to play at them if I'm not wrong with this. But to make it more clearer I guess its better to ask the casino representative regarding on this case since maybe they could allow those people who currently not on restricted regions to play on their casino.

When a certain player would really be hitting up some huge nasty wins then for sure a casino would really be making those kind of checks from IP address,until to multiaccount or whatever possible
violations that they could throw on, on the time that they've seen nothing then they would releasing those funds but if those platforms are those shady or scam ones then pretty sure they would really be having a long line of possible reasons just for them to deny on paying up those winnings. Doesnt matter if this one is correlating with some KYC checks or not. You would really be
able to avoid of possible headaches if you are really just that joining or playing on sites which are having that reputation and popularity.

[danadc]

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

I don't know if there's a person gets a problem with this kind of scenario but I think its fine since they are currently not on restricted country and playing on allowed premises. So I guess they just need to provide proof that can easily check out that they are not on US and in a country where they are allowed to play. For that maybe if there's proof to be shown a casino would provably allow the user to withdraw all the winnings if there's a withdrawal request also to continue to play at them if I'm not wrong with this. But to make it more clearer I guess its better to ask the casino representative regarding on this case since maybe they could allow those people who currently not on restricted regions to play on their casino.

When a certain player would really be hitting up some huge nasty wins then for sure a casino would really be making those kind of checks from IP address,until to multiaccount or whatever possible
violations that they could throw on, on the time that they've seen nothing then they would releasing those funds but if those platforms are those shady or scam ones then pretty sure they would really be having a long line of possible reasons just for them to deny on paying up those winnings. Doesnt matter if this one is correlating with some KYC checks or not. You would really be
able to avoid of possible headaches if you are really just that joining or playing on sites which are having that reputation and popularity.

Casinos should not make this experience a nightmare because when we go to play in a casino what we are looking for is to win, if we achieve it, the normal thing, the logical thing is that we can withdraw money, it is what we are all looking for, nothing It happens when you lose money in a casino, I have not seen a case where a player who loses, the casino requires a KYC to keep track and they say that they have to comply with it, well they don't, but in the case that the player He wins, if they demand everything, I don't like that, it's not well Regarded , and that can be annoying, it's something that I don't like about a casino.

If a casino asks for KYC, it must do so if the player wins or loses. If the player does not win, they can and should still ask for KYC or give them Emails to send it as soon as Possible and complete it with KYC. This is what I see as the most correct thing, for those reasons. We have to be very careful when we choose a casino to play , because we can have a hard time if we need to withdraw more money.

[Odusko]

I love to see casinos making their KYC prices as quick as exchange does because having to wait a week or two to see your documents verified is quite draining and at that, we have to make out the time to make sure that if we must register and play on centralized casinos who's KYC is mandatory then it better you start the process on time, in that way, you have enough time to spend waiting for your documents to get and verified.
So for sure, you will not have any problem with the casino and you can withdraw any amount since your account is already verified,  much more so you never have reasons to get into troubles that may warrant your accounts being locked, or any of such, so any casino that goes above that by not letting gamblers to verify their accounts, it may have alot to do with their reputations and most likely to be scam casinos.

[fullhdpixel]

So I mentioned I do play on gambling sites but these sites don't all primarily use crypto as deposit/withdraw method.  They use ewallets like skrill etc.

I am already KYC with them a while back with my US passport and with my non-US utility bill in the abroad country that I'm in and I have no issues playing or depositing or withdrawing.

I wanted to know if there are any crypto sites that I can sign up for while outside the US where this would not be an issue.  The reason being lot of these crypto sites seem to not accept US citizens correct?  So even though I'm a US citizen but I'm abroad and have a non US utility bill, would that be enough to play there?  The thing is I don't want to deposit crypto and play there and only when I withdraw, they say even though you are abroad and have a non-US utility bill that you stay at, well because you are a US citizen, we won't pay you out whether it's your winnings or even your original deposit balance.  So wanted to know are there any sites like that. 

Isn't the reason for casinos or other platforms not accepting US citizens is because of the regulatory pressure and general regulations of the region? I mean, even if you are a US citizen but not living in the US, it shouldn't be a problem because if you are gambling from another country, the rules of that country would be applied to whatever the casino does because they aren't operating in the US but they are just serving a person who is from the USA but living somewhere else, so there will be no regulatory complications in that case.

So, you should contact the support team of any casino that you wish to gamble with and confirm this with them, and I believe they would allow you to make deposits and withdrawals without any problem if you can show them a proof of residence and if the country you are currently in is accepted by them.

[erep]

So, you should contact the support team of any casino that you wish to gamble with and confirm this with them, and I believe they would allow you to make deposits and withdrawals without any problem if you can show them a proof of residence and if the country you are currently in is accepted by them.

Any user who shows proof of identity living in the US will definitely not be accepted for KYC verification because they have restricted US users from not being able to do KYC, unless they can prove they live in another country and you can make a passport from another country if there is an option to upload proof of passport during KYC verification .

The right solution is to contact the team to confirm your problem, but they don't change the rules that have been set even though you want to have a personal dialogue to help complete KYC in a country that has been banned but they can't help with this problem unless you have other documents proof of residence outside the US.

[mak013]

I love to see casinos making their KYC prices as quick as exchange does because having to wait a week or two to see your documents verified is quite draining and at that, we have to make out the time to make sure that if we must register and play on centralized casinos who's KYC is mandatory then it better you start the process on time, in that way, you have enough time to spend waiting for your documents to get and verified.
So for sure, you will not have any problem with the casino and you can withdraw any amount since your account is already verified,  much more so you never have reasons to get into troubles that may warrant your accounts being locked, or any of such, so any casino that goes above that by not letting gamblers to verify their accounts, it may have alot to do with their reputations and most likely to be scam casinos.

Yes, i`m talking about it at least two years. The best way is to KYC at the start, and don`t get a surprise when you need to withdraw money fast.
In the cryptocurrency exchanges there are an opportunity to KYC by yourself, any time you want. It would be nice to see such opportunity in all casinos.

[Ojima-ojo]

I love to see casinos making their KYC prices as quick as exchange does because having to wait a week or two to see your documents verified is quite draining and at that, we have to make out the time to make sure that if we must register and play on centralized casinos who's KYC is mandatory then it better you start the process on time, in that way, you have enough time to spend waiting for your documents to get and verified.
So for sure, you will not have any problem with the casino and you can withdraw any amount since your account is already verified,  much more so you never have reasons to get into troubles that may warrant your accounts being locked, or any of such, so any casino that goes above that by not letting gamblers to verify their accounts, it may have alot to do with their reputations and most likely to be scam casinos.

Yes, i`m talking about it at least two years. The best way is to KYC at the start, and don`t get a surprise when you need to withdraw money fast.
In the cryptocurrency exchanges there are an opportunity to KYC by yourself, any time you want. It would be nice to see such opportunity in all casinos.

Some casinos still make the provision available to those who want to kyc without being asked or requested to, just like its done on crypto exchanges, example is Stake, a friend of mine, some one living next day from mine played on stake for some time, and later one, he himself was the one that decided to submit his verification documents to the casino for kyc verification, he was never asked.
So this confirms that some casinos do have that facility, players can kyc anytime they want, and doing so even makes the verification process easier than waiting until the casino themselves lock you out and ask that you verify your account.

[borovichok]

Yes, i`m talking about it at least two years. The best way is to KYC at the start, and don`t get a surprise when you need to withdraw money fast.
In the cryptocurrency exchanges there are an opportunity to KYC by yourself, any time you want. It would be nice to see such opportunity in all casinos.

Before gambling, the first thing is to stick to the terms and conditions of that particular process, there are several ways to abide by these rules but anything beyond that, there are consequences and punishment. KYC are important for all users in the system, it's a basic fundamental process that ought to be passed with legitimate information provided. That's just a phase to clarify the basic requirements of the identity of the user, because there are so many fraudulent ongoing activities in the system and these casinos wouldn't give room for these frauds to pass without going unpunished.

[danadc]

This topic has always given us a lot to talk about, we are players who are mostly active and we want to do things to continue having fun, for those reasons we want to have the best experience, and we recommend casinos or sites that are good and that make us give a better scheme than they are, but I could say that there are casinos that sometimes deceive, because they say you deposit and then you play and if you win they put the KYC restrictions , that bothers because there are casino sites that do not approve quickly , and that is the pain of many.

The players who can make reviews are the ones who are always looking for places to see and say which is the best, and one characteristic of that is this, for that reason I will always prefer the casinos that are old, because the old casinos They don't get complicated with anything, they are more practical in everything, when there are complications they look for a way to do things better.