Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[mak013]

I love to see casinos making their KYC prices as quick as exchange does because having to wait a week or two to see your documents verified is quite draining and at that, we have to make out the time to make sure that if we must register and play on centralized casinos who's KYC is mandatory then it better you start the process on time, in that way, you have enough time to spend waiting for your documents to get and verified.
So for sure, you will not have any problem with the casino and you can withdraw any amount since your account is already verified,  much more so you never have reasons to get into troubles that may warrant your accounts being locked, or any of such, so any casino that goes above that by not letting gamblers to verify their accounts, it may have alot to do with their reputations and most likely to be scam casinos.

Yes, i`m talking about it at least two years. The best way is to KYC at the start, and don`t get a surprise when you need to withdraw money fast.
In the cryptocurrency exchanges there are an opportunity to KYC by yourself, any time you want. It would be nice to see such opportunity in all casinos.

Some casinos still make the provision available to those who want to kyc without being asked or requested to, just like its done on crypto exchanges, example is Stake, a friend of mine, some one living next day from mine played on stake for some time, and later one, he himself was the one that decided to submit his verification documents to the casino for kyc verification, he was never asked.
So this confirms that some casinos do have that facility, players can kyc anytime they want, and doing so even makes the verification process easier than waiting until the casino themselves lock you out and ask that you verify your account.

It is what i`m talking about. Such casinos gives you a chance to withdraw your money any moment you need, without KYC, when the casino decides to do it.

Yes, i`m talking about it at least two years. The best way is to KYC at the start, and don`t get a surprise when you need to withdraw money fast.
In the cryptocurrency exchanges there are an opportunity to KYC by yourself, any time you want. It would be nice to see such opportunity in all casinos.

Before gambling, the first thing is to stick to the terms and conditions of that particular process, there are several ways to abide by these rules but anything beyond that, there are consequences and punishment. KYC are important for all users in the system, it's a basic fundamental process that ought to be passed with legitimate information provided. That's just a phase to clarify the basic requirements of the identity of the user, because there are so many fraudulent ongoing activities in the system and these casinos wouldn't give room for these frauds to pass without going unpunished.

It you read my post more attentively, you can see that i have nothing against the KYC. I even recommend everybody to KYC as fast as possible. But if we are talking about ToS - you often will see that the casino can KYC you any moment they want. It is ok, but it would be better to have an opportunity to KYC before the casino asks.

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[piebeyb]

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

Maybe that only applies to big gamblers so far, as a small gambler, I don't need to send any identification, just do level 1 verification, filling in the information data is more than enough, I can still withdraw money without having to be asked to send documentation for level 2, every KYC there is always a level. That's why gamblers who have a lot of money should read the rules first before making a large deposit.

Usually people like that never know how the online casino system works where there are rules and requirements that must be read regarding KYC so most of them make large deposits and bets until they end up confused when the casino asks the user to provide their identity and complete their KYC. My suggestion is that rich users should complete their KYC at the beginning

[Wiwo]

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

Maybe that only applies to big gamblers so far, as a small gambler, I don't need to send any identification, just do level 1 verification, filling in the information data is more than enough, I can still withdraw money without having to be asked to send documentation for level 2, every KYC there is always a level. That's why gamblers who have a lot of money should read the rules first before making a large deposit.

Usually people like that never know how the online casino system works where there are rules and requirements that must be read regarding KYC so most of them make large deposits and bets until they end up confused when the casino asks the user to provide their identity and complete their KYC. My suggestion is that rich users should complete their KYC at the beginning

Yes most of those that are asked for kyc is those big bag holders and that os part of the anti money laundering laws which some time are effective in making it hard for corrupt politicians and criminals to use gambling sites as a mix for their stolen funds,  mostly at a time we have to look in the direction of that,  so the casino is always on the lookout for any possible loopholes that is why their place minimum $5,000 one time deposits or withdrawal on none KYC gamblers but any amount above that $5,000+ it may require the account to go through verification,  so for sure a lot has to do with why casino act the way they do and what the reason for kyx demands is because in most cases,  the gamblers are the one that has failed to follow the terms and conditions of the casino.

Unless for scam casinos who may deliberately lock a person out and for some reason to scam the gambler such as in cases with 1xbits unless that,  if not KYC is a prerequisite for higher wagerers.

[mvdheuvel1983]

I have experienced this just once but since then I have not had that issue. And remembering it now and saying to myself that I was to be blamed for the issue. What casinos should do is to make try as much as possible to make the KYC requirement to be a prerequisite for funding the and playing. This way it will not seem like the casino is being shady. It removes confusions and make the gambler aware from the onset what is expected of him before he can make full use of the casino features.

[lionheart78]

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

Maybe that only applies to big gamblers so far, as a small gambler, I don't need to send any identification, just do level 1 verification, filling in the information data is more than enough, I can still withdraw money without having to be asked to send documentation for level 2, every KYC there is always a level. That's why gamblers who have a lot of money should read the rules first before making a large deposit.

True, until we meet the threshold. Who knows when luck will strike the small gamblers that they are able to win a larger amount and exceed the threshold of the amount for the non-KYC withdrawal.  But until then, if we are able to withdraw without performing KYC then stick with it, just adjust and decide carefully if times comes the casino requires us to do KYC regardless of the betting/withdrawal amount

Usually people like that never know how the online casino system works where there are rules and requirements that must be read regarding KYC so most of them make large deposits and bets until they end up confused when the casino asks the user to provide their identity and complete their KYC. My suggestion is that rich users should complete their KYC at the beginning

I think they do know it but they wanted to take the chance resulting in a problem since even if they know the possibility of KYC for larger transactions, they then push their luck and end up with a pending withdrawal scenario until they pass the KYC procedure.

[Saisher]

I have experienced this just once but since then I have not had that issue. And remembering it now and saying to myself that I was to be blamed for the issue. What casinos should do is to make try as much as possible to make the KYC requirement to be a prerequisite for funding the and playing. This way it will not seem like the casino is being shady. It removes confusions and make the gambler aware from the onset what is expected of him before he can make full use of the casino features.

There are casinos where you can verify your account or ask them if you can do KYC before depositing huge amounts of money, OP mentioned the name of the casino that is not very popular here in the gambling community, if the casino is reputable and you have no problem with your documents I doubt if there will be an issue if you win a huge amount of money but you have to do KYC the reason is if you're not a minor playing in their platform which is a violation of their terms if you can prove that you are not a minor you can withdraw your winnings with no issue at all.

[Hirose UK]

I have experienced this just once but since then I have not had that issue. And remembering it now and saying to myself that I was to be blamed for the issue. What casinos should do is to make try as much as possible to make the KYC requirement to be a prerequisite for funding the and playing. This way it will not seem like the casino is being shady. It removes confusions and make the gambler aware from the onset what is expected of him before he can make full use of the casino features.

There are already quite lot of gamblers who experience the same problems as you regarding KYC requirements, but now we all have to be able to understand and respect every policy in the requirements set by the casino, whether it KYC or something else.
Being wise gambler and obeying the rules has nothing to lose and in fact we can always avoid things that we don't want, especially when we have provided KYC requirements from the start then we can be calmer in the future.
Rather than giving the casino what it needs when asking for it at the time of withdrawal, it is clearly better to give it immediately from the start so that whatever happens we can handle it immediately.

But regarding KYC being associated with casinos that look shady is actually not correct assumption because there are also shady casinos that ask for KYC requirements from their customers.
Even shady casinos always ask for KYC if customer gets big win and this KYC request aims to prevent customers from being able to withdraw their winnings and complicates the whole process.

[Obari]

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

Maybe that only applies to big gamblers so far, as a small gambler, I don't need to send any identification, just do level 1 verification, filling in the information data is more than enough, I can still withdraw money without having to be asked to send documentation for level 2, every KYC there is always a level. That's why gamblers who have a lot of money should read the rules first before making a large deposit.

Most times, people do underestimate the power of terms and conditions and in most cases, people don’t bother to read the terms and conditions of a casino because most times that very section is always very long and gamblers just skip and assume all is well and just with the cases of signature campaigns where a manager and the campaign term has the right to adjust their terms at any time, same also applies to most of this casinos because they also make it clear in their terms of services that they have the right to adjust their terms and conditions at any time and I agree with @piebeyb that small gamblers shouldn’t at Sime times be bothered with T&C but the moment your stakes are getting above your limit, then it should be a time to revisit the T&C to avoid issues later on.

[Dunamisx]

Unless for scam casinos who may deliberately lock a person out and for some reason to scam the gambler such as in cases with 1xbits unless that,  if not KYC is a prerequisite for higher wagerers.

There's nothing to doubt about that, there are untrustworthy gambling casinos one must surely avoided when choosing which to use while gambling, there are many gamblers encounter with some casinos whereby they will have to lock and ban their account just in other to ensure that they were unable to make withdrawals of their funds, some will even place demands in asking the gambler to make deposit or pay a particular amount for violating the rules as sanction.

[Wiwo]

Unless for scam casinos who may deliberately lock a person out and for some reason to scam the gambler such as in cases with 1xbits unless that,  if not KYC is a prerequisite for higher wagerers.

There's nothing to doubt about that, there are untrustworthy gambling casinos one must surely avoid when choosing which to use while gambling, there are many gamblers who encounter with some casinos where they will have to lock and ban their account just in other to ensure that they were unable to make withdrawals of their funds, some will even place demands in asking the gambler to make deposit or pay a particular amount for violating the rules as a sanction.

Yes agree with the fact that we need to avoid casinos that deliberately scam their users, there are the bad actors in the market that have given a lot of other legit casinos a bad name and that is not acceptable for such a time like this,  when we have some other provable and legit casino,  so for sure any casino that ask it users to pay a certain amount as penalty is obviously a scam casino already and should be avoided by all means possible because putting up such an act is a pour signed of potential exit scam on the user.

Although I have not heard anything of such before and if that be it,  it means that 1xbit or any casino that asks its clients to pay to get their verification through should be reported and avoided by all means just as we have done with 1xbit here in the forum.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Rather than giving the casino what it needs when asking for it at the time of withdrawal, it is clearly better to give it immediately from the start so that whatever happens we can handle it immediately.

I totally agree with you on what you just said above, because apart from checking for which casino offers a KYC free usage or not, another good criteria gamblers needs to check out for is "reputation", while obeying all casino rules, because one clear fact that I know is that a legit casino can never deny you your withdrawal, inasmuch as you are not gambling from a restricted area, and you were able to provide all needed credentials, your withdrawal will definitely be honoured. But just that it could take time, which is why it's best to do what "Hirose UK" just said above, so as to be on the safer side.

Even shady casinos always ask for KYC if customer gets big win and this KYC request aims to prevent customers from being able to withdraw their winnings and complicates the whole process.

And a good example of it is 1xbit, 1xbet and e.t.c, that will never ask for KYC while depositing and losing your bets, but the very moment you win huge, you start having one problem or the other, so as to avoid paying you your rightful winning.

[jerry0]

Is there a reason people play on online casinos that use crypto vs say traditional payments?  Example like using skrill for example?


Also what casinos online don't you cashout even when you submit the KYC later?  Examples?



Now when you create an account on their online casinos that use crypto as deposit and payment method, they do ask you for your address correct or not?  Or only your name?  So what if you send them your passport and it's US but you are abroad and the utility bill you give them is where you are located and abroad?  Also you never use a vpn.  There is no issue there right?  The thing is if you entered your name and abroad address at signup, there should be no issue?  But are there casino online sites that don't even ask you to enter your address besides just your name though?  Then you might have a problem?

[Hamphser]

Is there a reason people play on online casinos that use crypto vs say traditional payments?  Example like using skrill for example?


Also what casinos online don't you cashout even when you submit the KYC later?  Examples?



Now when you create an account on their online casinos that use crypto as deposit and payment method, they do ask you for your address correct or not?  Or only your name?  So what if you send them your passport and it's US but you are abroad and the utility bill you give them is where you are located and abroad?  Also you never use a vpn.  There is no issue there right?  The thing is if you entered your name and abroad address at signup, there should be no issue?  But are there casino online sites that don't even ask you to enter your address besides just your name though?  Then you might have a problem?

When trying out to compare crypto casinos to those fiat online based ones then their differences is notable or something that obvious.

In crypto
1. Crypto deposits
2. No KYC (unless you do hit up a deposit threshold)
3. Anonymous


In fiat
1. Using up cards
2. No privacy
3. Subject to hold if there's a huge money involved

Im not saying that crypto platforms wont really be holding those huge funds but this is only on the time that you are dealing with shady casinos
but if you are dealing on something that had been trusted for years then i dont see any issues on which you would really be able to face
on in regards into this one. So it is really that clear as day on which or what place on where those gamblers would really be loving on
sticking into.

[iv4n]

Is there a reason people play on online casinos that use crypto vs say traditional payments?  Example like using skrill for example?

Well, crypto deposits/withdrawals are faster and without any questions. And if you are someone who lives in some third-world country you will have a lot of trouble with fiat gambling casinos, not every casino accepts the banks from your country, it's hard to deposit, it's even harder to withdraw, and there are questions where did you get money from and maybe you even need to pay some tax... with crypto we are anonymous, and there is a lot of freedom for us.

For all those reasons I gamble only with crypto... I never had Skirll/Paypal/or any other similar service. I am the only crypto gambler, and I think I will use only crypto for gambling as long as I gamble.

[Wiwo]

I totally agree with you on what you just said above, because apart from checking for which casino offers a KYC free usage or not, another good criteria gamblers needs to check out for is "reputation", while obeying all casino rules, because one clear fact that I know is that a legit casino can never deny you your withdrawal, inasmuch as you are not gambling from a restricted area, and you were able to provide all needed credentials, your withdrawal will definitely be honoured. But just that it could take time, which is why it's best to do what "Hirose UK" just said above, so as to be on the safer side.

Even shady casinos always ask for KYC if customer gets big win and this KYC request aims to prevent customers from being able to withdraw their winnings and complicates the whole process.

And a good example of it is 1xbit, 1xbet and e.t.c, that will never ask for KYC while depositing and losing your bets, but the very moment you win huge, you start having one problem or the other, so as to avoid paying you your rightful winning.

Unless I don't intend to spend a lot of time on a particular casino,  or I am not going to make a big deposits into the account,  only then will I not consider to have pass through my kyc verification before making my first deposits into the account,  many time what result into most of the difficulties face by gamblers with reputable casino is for the fact that they failed to comply with the casino from the start,  e.g,  is bad approach to register on a centralized casino using VPN,  because by doing so,  the gambler is already violating the regional rules and if the casino keeps cookies of the browsers,  it may become hard to get such account verified along the way.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I totally agree with you on what you just said above, because apart from checking for which casino offers a KYC free usage or not, another good criteria gamblers needs to check out for is "reputation", while obeying all casino rules, because one clear fact that I know is that a legit casino can never deny you your withdrawal, inasmuch as you are not gambling from a restricted area, and you were able to provide all needed credentials, your withdrawal will definitely be honoured. But just that it could take time, which is why it's best to do what "Hirose UK" just said above, so as to be on the safer side.

Even shady casinos always ask for KYC if customer gets big win and this KYC request aims to prevent customers from being able to withdraw their winnings and complicates the whole process.

And a good example of it is 1xbit, 1xbet and e.t.c, that will never ask for KYC while depositing and losing your bets, but the very moment you win huge, you start having one problem or the other, so as to avoid paying you your rightful winning.

Unless I don't intend to spend a lot of time on a particular casino,  or I am not going to make a big deposits into the account,  only then will I not consider to have pass through my kyc verification before making my first deposits into the account,  many time what result into most of the difficulties face by gamblers with reputable casino is for the fact that they failed to comply with the casino from the start,  e.g,  is bad approach to register on a centralized casino using VPN,  because by doing so,  the gambler is already violating the regional rules and if the casino keeps cookies of the browsers,  it may become hard to get such account verified along the way.

Yes, that is something that you can take as a preventive measure, the KYC thing is something that can be taken as something that should be done and accepted, because when things are like this, they have to be done in the right way, that is, we We have to be aware of what we are doing, when we do certain things, then we consider the following, when I see a casino that is reliable, I can see that I do the KYC, because it will be a casino that I will always frequent, and it would be quite annoying If I enter the caisno and then I cannot do anything else until they approve it, because I have seen that there are many caisno where the KYC is made demanding, the reason? I don't know, but it is something that should not be done, because in a casino, before making a deposit, they should comply with the KYC so that there are no problems of any kind, that is why we always have the conviction to be in a casino , we must decide very well and without any type of regrets.

The cases of VPNs are very likely to generate more things so that problems arise in casinos, all due to a problem of governments, of adjacency where in certain countries they are prohibited, and even the vision of more in a casino with VPNs It is always focused so that they are more anonymous, others use it so that they can enter and play because they belong to prohibited countries, which seems very extreme to me and looks very bad. Of course, I do not agree with those things about having an eprosna What to restrict playing in a place just because it is from one of those countries, I don't agree, wherever we are from we have the right to play and the other is that casinos should accept people from other countries using the VPN, because basically things will always be better in a casino when there are more people in a casino and if many people in the country are rejected they will stop winning for those people who eagerly want a chance.

[pawanjain]

As far as the KYC for withdrawal is mentioned in the T&C of the site nobody can do anything about it.
Most people ignore the T&C of all the sites and then complaint about what the site has already mentioned.
If the T&C doesn't mention KYC norms and yet ask for it then we can raise a scam accusation against them.

[Dunamisx]

As far as the KYC for withdrawal is mentioned in the T&C of the site nobody can do anything about it.
Most people ignore the T&C of all the sites and then complaint about what the site has already mentioned.
If the T&C doesn't mention KYC norms and yet ask for it then we can raise a scam accusation against them.

Ofcourse no one can do anything about it, including the gambling platform, ones it comes to the issues related to gambling casinos and their KYC requirements, things must be well in place by the gambler's response on every request, ignoring it is a sign that we are inviting a penalty or sanction for non compliance to their request, but when we already know that we cannot cope with having kyc challenges, we are better on with making decision in going for the casinos that does not require KYC althrough.

[mak013]

As far as the KYC for withdrawal is mentioned in the T&C of the site nobody can do anything about it.
Most people ignore the T&C of all the sites and then complaint about what the site has already mentioned.
If the T&C doesn't mention KYC norms and yet ask for it then we can raise a scam accusation against them.

I think that you can do nothing with them. Several weeks ago i won with the 14 odds, but the bookie just returned my money due to "technical mistakes of operator". After my appeal the bookie answered, that they "think that it was not a fair match". Anyway in ToS there are some moments, that allow casino to cheat. I think that if there is nothing about KYC in ToS, there are some moments that allow them to ask some private data from the gambler.

[Wiwo]

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

Maybe that only applies to big gamblers so far, as a small gambler, I don't need to send any identification, just do level 1 verification, filling in the information data is more than enough, I can still withdraw money without having to be asked to send documentation for level 2, every KYC there is always a level. That's why gamblers who have a lot of money should read the rules first before making a large deposit.

Most times, people do underestimate the power of terms and conditions and in most cases, people don’t bother to read the terms and conditions of a casino because most times that very section is always very long and gamblers just skip and assume all is well and just with the cases of signature campaigns where a manager and the campaign term has the right to adjust their terms at any time, same also applies to most of this casinos because they also make it clear in their terms of services that they have the right to adjust their terms and conditions at any time and I agree with @piebeyb that small gamblers shouldn’t at Sime times be bothered with T&C but the moment your stakes are getting above your limit, then it should be a time to revisit the T&C to avoid issues later on.

Underestimating the power of the terms and conditions of a casino is the beginning of frustration for the gambler after you have been asked to go through with some key demands on the casino such as KYC,  most times, casinos have many of the things that gamblers complain about when they encounter challenges all outlined and explained on their terms of service.

But the inability of some gamblers to take the time to read through and understand what the terms of service are with the casino and what are they do or don't while playing there,  failure to do so will amount to problems for the gamblers.