Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[junder]

I think the most of us heard news like "someone was catch selling private data" or "the employee of company sold clients data". So it means that someone need it and ready to pay for it.

If it is possible, i try don`t share my data, but today reality tells us that the all withdrawal operation requires phone number or email at least + bank card if you withdraw fiat or your cryptocurrency address. Without KYC you can use fake data - virtual card, phone number, name. They can sell it, but i think that you mustn`t care about it.

I myself have never experienced this, in terms of gambling I have never experienced my account being stolen or sold. But what I've seen happen to my friend is that his account was locked when he managed to get a big win. Does that constitute account theft? What do you think about the case that happened to my friend? Is it possible that this happened because he filled out some of the requirements carelessly like I did by only filling in the important parts, namely the account name and account number?

Apart from that, when you get a win and want to withdraw it, of course we need various aspects or things that must be fulfilled, but as long as I've been gambling, I feel like I've never experienced a fatal bad incident, maybe it's just that the withdrawal time isn't too fast, even though I sometimes felt annoyed but in the end my withdrawal was approved.

[wxa7115]

It must not have been safe to do so, but I actually did it some years ago, and then I was not really too informed about the risk that is related to giving out personal information so freely without minding the outcome. That's why I said that the reason some people make mistakes is due to a lack of proper information. It was after I joined the forum that I properly understood the dangers of KYC. 

I hope the platform that you used was a trusted one, as at least in that instance the chances your information could be sold or stolen gets reduced in a dramatic way.

Still, it is important to avoid sharing that information as much as possible, so if there are platforms that you can use that do not ask you to pass any KYC check and that are trusted as well, then it is way better to use those platforms, as a way to reduce the chances of our information getting leaked by some reason or another.

[delfastTions]

It must not have been safe to do so, but I actually did it some years ago, and then I was not really too informed about the risk that is related to giving out personal information so freely without minding the outcome. That's why I said that the reason some people make mistakes is due to a lack of proper information. It was after I joined the forum that I properly understood the dangers of KYC. 

I hope the platform that you used was a trusted one, as at least in that instance the chances your information could be sold or stolen gets reduced in a dramatic way.

Still, it is important to avoid sharing that information as much as possible, so if there are platforms that you can use that do not ask you to pass any KYC check and that are trusted as well, then it is way better to use those platforms, as a way to reduce the chances of our information getting leaked by some reason or another.

Unfortunately, more and more platforms are coming under pressure from regulatory authorities in different countries, and everywhere there is a fight against the anonymity of players in online casinos.  Almost all large and well-known world-class crypto casinos now require KYC identification in one form or another.  This, of course, contradicts the very nature of cryptocurrencies, but players, even if they play from such casinos, are forced to provide their data, although of course, even in these cases of large casinos this is completely unsafe.  Thus, I consider, in principle, a violation of fundamental human rights and privacy of personal life and personal information.  But unfortunately, legislators in different countries, in my opinion, completely ignore this issue and, on the contrary, do everything possible to control everyone by providing your Personal Data everywhere.  And specifically for crypto casinos, this is generally completely wrong.  But how to deal with this is still completely unclear.

[mak013]

I think the most of us heard news like "someone was catch selling private data" or "the employee of company sold clients data". So it means that someone need it and ready to pay for it.

If it is possible, i try don`t share my data, but today reality tells us that the all withdrawal operation requires phone number or email at least + bank card if you withdraw fiat or your cryptocurrency address. Without KYC you can use fake data - virtual card, phone number, name. They can sell it, but i think that you mustn`t care about it.

I myself have never experienced this, in terms of gambling I have never experienced my account being stolen or sold. But what I've seen happen to my friend is that his account was locked when he managed to get a big win. Does that constitute account theft? What do you think about the case that happened to my friend? Is it possible that this happened because he filled out some of the requirements carelessly like I did by only filling in the important parts, namely the account name and account number?

Apart from that, when you get a win and want to withdraw it, of course we need various aspects or things that must be fulfilled, but as long as I've been gambling, I feel like I've never experienced a fatal bad incident, maybe it's just that the withdrawal time isn't too fast, even though I sometimes felt annoyed but in the end my withdrawal was approved.

No. In such situation your account may be frozen until KYC. If you got ban it may be if casinos` security decide you cheated or if your data wasn`t true. May be something else, i can`t say right now.
Any way your friend has to write ticket to support to get some more information. Or, if it has ANN thread - write in such thread and wait an answer from the casino representative.

[Dunamisx]

Gambling casinos could come in different forms base on what they want and how effective they have seen the outcome to what they are putting out as plan, KYC is what makes them to identify the identity of the owner of an account, juet as we are all aware of how hackers can make attempt on taking over some users gambling account if there is no any verification process set in place in knowing the real owner.

[LUCKMCFLY]

But we must aware that casino can asks us to do KYC when we wants to withdraw and we must prepare for that. If you agree, you can continue the process but if you are not agree, you can not do anything except leave it and not regrets. You must be careful when you wants to playing gambling and needs to thinks how if the casino asks you to do KYC. If you can accept that, you can still playing gambling and not thinks much about KYC because that is something that can happens anytime in casino.

You are absolutely right about that, and it should be that way, and I always limit myself to having accounts in the most reliable casinos just Because of that problem , what I am saying is on a more conceptual level, as time has passed we have allowed our rights to be taken away, we no longer have the right to have privacy because everyone or whoever wants can have access to our Data ,  if the casino that requires KYC tomorrow is no longer there or Goes bankrupt, that KYC data is up in the air, they can easily make money by Selling it on the darkweb without knowing and when they realize it there are certain homicides, robberies and where from ? ahhh that kind of thing, so of course, KYC is our decision, but we must Advocate for more privacy every day.

[junder]

No. In such situation your account may be frozen until KYC. If you got ban it may be if casinos` security decide you cheated or if your data wasn`t true. May be something else, i can`t say right now.
Any way your friend has to write ticket to support to get some more information. Or, if it has ANN thread - write in such thread and wait an answer from the casino representative.

I think it might be more directed at data that is not true, because I think it is impossible for me to cheat. Moreover, I don't think I can cheat in a casino because it is not impossible, besides what kind of cheating can be done by me or other gamblers, I have never thinking about being able to cheat the casino. Or perhaps, with so many casinos nowadays, there are also casinos whose intention is to cheat, such as wanting to make a profit but not being able to pay out the winnings that the player has earned. We have to be careful and careful enough so that undesirable things don't happen, there will be bad luck because it is fate, but even so, there is no harm in us having to be careful and more thorough, such as by looking for a reputable casino.

Great advice guys, I appreciate it. Apart from that, even if the casino applies for KYC then it is better that we have to fulfill it because for a big win it will be a statement, apart from that I have heard when there are people who have an account but there is never a big transaction but when one time there is a big transaction it is This could be a question for the bank and could result in us being called to the bank office to ask about the origin of the large amounts of money that entered the account.

[EarnOnVictor]

I think the most of us heard news like "someone was catch selling private data" or "the employee of company sold clients data". So it means that someone need it and ready to pay for it.

If it is possible, i try don`t share my data, but today reality tells us that the all withdrawal operation requires phone number or email at least + bank card if you withdraw fiat or your cryptocurrency address. Without KYC you can use fake data - virtual card, phone number, name. They can sell it, but i think that you mustn`t care about it.

I myself have never experienced this, in terms of gambling I have never experienced my account being stolen or sold. But what I've seen happen to my friend is that his account was locked when he managed to get a big win. Does that constitute account theft? What do you think about the case that happened to my friend? Is it possible that this happened because he filled out some of the requirements carelessly like I did by only filling in the important parts, namely the account name and account number?

Apart from that, when you get a win and want to withdraw it, of course we need various aspects or things that must be fulfilled, but as long as I've been gambling, I feel like I've never experienced a fatal bad incident, maybe it's just that the withdrawal time isn't too fast, even though I sometimes felt annoyed but in the end my withdrawal was approved.

Judging by what you narrated, if at all there is a true reason why the account was blocked, it can't be for the data error but for the big withdrawal filed. It is not the first time some casinos have used deceit like this to steal customers' winning and will frustrate them from fulfilling the criteria they claim to be the issues, that's if they even answer them again.

About the data error, it shouldn't even be as difficult as this between a casino and the customer, errors are bound to happen, so even if the person made a mistake, it is the right of the casino to call his attention to it and the two parties should work together to resolve it, and not in a manner of cruelty like blocking the account, for what? However, my position on this is only possible in a sane environment and I am a witness to it. I made a mistake with my name spelling with one of my traditional brokers many years back, and when I sent my documents for KYC verification, they detected the mistake by themselves and did not tell me anything when they internally changed it all themselves. I only noticed late, that's how it should be. Even if they can't change it for you, they may call your attention to it, not blocking the account, that's harsh.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

I think the most of us heard news like "someone was catch selling private data" or "the employee of company sold clients data". So it means that someone need it and ready to pay for it.

If it is possible, i try don`t share my data, but today reality tells us that the all withdrawal operation requires phone number or email at least + bank card if you withdraw fiat or your cryptocurrency address. Without KYC you can use fake data - virtual card, phone number, name. They can sell it, but i think that you mustn`t care about it.

I myself have never experienced this, in terms of gambling I have never experienced my account being stolen or sold. But what I've seen happen to my friend is that his account was locked when he managed to get a big win. Does that constitute account theft? What do you think about the case that happened to my friend? Is it possible that this happened because he filled out some of the requirements carelessly like I did by only filling in the important parts, namely the account name and account number?

Apart from that, when you get a win and want to withdraw it, of course we need various aspects or things that must be fulfilled, but as long as I've been gambling, I feel like I've never experienced a fatal bad incident, maybe it's just that the withdrawal time isn't too fast, even though I sometimes felt annoyed but in the end my withdrawal was approved.

       -     I just noticed that in other casinos here in the crypto gambling business, there are actually some gambling platforms that, when they see that the winning gambler will withdraw a large amount from their platform, they don't just immediately allow it to be withdrawn; that's how they play on their platform.

Instead, they first ask for criteria like KYC, and sometimes there are others that, after the KYC is given, there are still other documents that seem to be having an impact, or it seems that they don't want the gamblers to be able to release a large amount.

[mak013]

No. In such situation your account may be frozen until KYC. If you got ban it may be if casinos` security decide you cheated or if your data wasn`t true. May be something else, i can`t say right now.
Any way your friend has to write ticket to support to get some more information. Or, if it has ANN thread - write in such thread and wait an answer from the casino representative.

I think it might be more directed at data that is not true, because I think it is impossible for me to cheat. Moreover, I don't think I can cheat in a casino because it is not impossible, besides what kind of cheating can be done by me or other gamblers, I have never thinking about being able to cheat the casino. Or perhaps, with so many casinos nowadays, there are also casinos whose intention is to cheat, such as wanting to make a profit but not being able to pay out the winnings that the player has earned. We have to be careful and careful enough so that undesirable things don't happen, there will be bad luck because it is fate, but even so, there is no harm in us having to be careful and more thorough, such as by looking for a reputable casino.

Great advice guys, I appreciate it. Apart from that, even if the casino applies for KYC then it is better that we have to fulfill it because for a big win it will be a statement, apart from that I have heard when there are people who have an account but there is never a big transaction but when one time there is a big transaction it is This could be a question for the bank and could result in us being called to the bank office to ask about the origin of the large amounts of money that entered the account.

Good, well-known casino, can`t ban your account without reason, but they can freeze it - stop bets, deposit, withdrawals. Mostly you have to KYC after it to be able to continue gambling. Even if you decide to leave the casino - you can`t withdraw your money without KYC. So choose yourself - to share some data, or to leave the prize.
It is typical situation today, so i recommend to make several small withdrawals before making serious bets.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

We aren't that perfect and it's normal that we would really be committing out mistakes specially if we don't know something but on the moment that you do get or know such information then it would really be adding up in overall experience that we do have until we do consider ourselves to be that an experienced and knowledgeable person on which this is really that typical.As speaking about KYC then this won't really be something that avoidable because even if we do speak about crypto based platforms but still as years passing by, they do become that centralized and having that license on which simply means that potential KYC might be asked.

Yes, any casino that is regulated will definitely ask for KYC from their customers in the future. As long as they have the rules of KYC requirements in their policy, they have the right to ask a particular customer to perform due to some reasons best known to them. The only casinos that may not request KYC are some of the new, non-regulated casinos, and some of them can be scams too. 

[Wakate]

It must not have been safe to do so, but I actually did it some years ago, and then I was not really too informed about the risk that is related to giving out personal information so freely without minding the outcome. That's why I said that the reason some people make mistakes is due to a lack of proper information. It was after I joined the forum that I properly understood the dangers of KYC. 

I hope the platform that you used was a trusted one, as at least in that instance the chances your information could be sold or stolen gets reduced in a dramatic way.

Still, it is important to avoid sharing that information as much as possible, so if there are platforms that you can use that do not ask you to pass any KYC check and that are trusted as well, then it is way better to use those platforms, as a way to reduce the chances of our information getting leaked by some reason or another.

There might still be some casinos that are only interested in having our information in their hands so that they can always use it to do whatever they want without any worries. Gambling is fun but when it looks like it's becoming too serious and unbearable, we can always quite even though while looking for another good platforms we can be using. There are so many bad casinos out there we need to avoid because they would always want to do everything to make sure that we are frustrated especially when we have funds in such platforms. It is always good for us to be wise and go for what we really want so we don't get cut out at the middle.

[Odusko]

But we must aware that casino can asks us to do KYC when we wants to withdraw and we must prepare for that. If you agree, you can continue the process but if you are not agree, you can not do anything except leave it and not regrets. You must be careful when you wants to playing gambling and needs to thinks how if the casino asks you to do KYC. If you can accept that, you can still playing gambling and not thinks much about KYC because that is something that can happens anytime in casino.

You are absolutely right about that, and it should be that way, and I always limit myself to having accounts in the most reliable casinos just Because of that problem , what I am saying is on a more conceptual level, as time has passed we have allowed our rights to be taken away, we no longer have the right to have privacy because everyone or whoever wants can have access to our Data ,  if the casino that requires KYC tomorrow is no longer there or Goes bankrupt, that KYC data is up in the air, they can easily make money by Selling it on the darkweb without knowing and when they realize it there are certain homicides, robberies and where from ? ahhh that kind of thing, so of course, KYC is our decision, but we must Advocate for more privacy every day.

The risk of KYC leakage is much more burdensome on the gambler most especially those that have not yet established their foot on a particular reputable casinos, because at some point the reason why I never sign up on some casino is because of the fact that I am affraid that my data is not protected and since I don't trust their capacity to provide me with data protection I won't border to sign up on them, but still on still I am more familiar with a few casino that have high KYC database that can not be penetrated either by hacker's or even the casino selling my data off when their become out of business for whatever reasons.
KYC have become more threat than it is a protection, speaking from a user perspectives as a gambler who have hard some few experience in the past with casinos that have failed in their responsibility to protect their players data most especially in time of campany crisis e.g hack, bankruptcy and sell off, this is what make me decide to only gamble on high reputable casinos that can not just fold up and sell out users privacy.
Much more also, as a gambler you need to read all the the KYC requirements and what to expect with KYC as time goes on like what are the KYC requirements at various stages and level of the account and it funding e.g when you make a deposit above a certain amount of you want to withdraw a large amount what KYC requirements that need to be meet up with, or just a ruetin KYC check that requires update on the account verification documents like when your IDs have expired.

[junder]

Judging by what you narrated, if at all there is a true reason why the account was blocked, it can't be for the data error but for the big withdrawal filed. It is not the first time some casinos have used deceit like this to steal customers' winning and will frustrate them from fulfilling the criteria they claim to be the issues, that's if they even answer them again.

About the data error, it shouldn't even be as difficult as this between a casino and the customer, errors are bound to happen, so even if the person made a mistake, it is the right of the casino to call his attention to it and the two parties should work together to resolve it, and not in a manner of cruelty like blocking the account, for what? However, my position on this is only possible in a sane environment and I am a witness to it. I made a mistake with my name spelling with one of my traditional brokers many years back, and when I sent my documents for KYC verification, they detected the mistake by themselves and did not tell me anything when they internally changed it all themselves. I only noticed late, that's how it should be. Even if they can't change it for you, they may call your attention to it, not blocking the account, that's harsh.

agreed, it would be good to resolve it by agreement between both parties, because in my opinion, by not paying other people's winnings that have been obtained, perhaps it could also reduce the reputation of their own casino with the person who has received the winnings but was not paid, he posted the casino because not paying them and giving negative comments, of course it will affect their casino's reputation to a small extent. By resolving the problems that occur that must be done, especially with the staff who work at the casino, I think they work to resolve the problems that occur with their customers.

I have experienced where I entered an account number that was mine, but when I withdrew the winnings the number was changed. I don't understand what happened but I registered at a casino which had almost the same name and I registered with a different account number, also when I made a deposit with the account number I had it was successful but when I withdrew the winnings my account number changed, I don't know maybe they are mutually exclusive. It's related between one casino and another or whatever but I don't mind it because it's just a small win too. So what I did was just change casinos and didn't bother.

[lienfaye]

We aren't that perfect and it's normal that we would really be committing out mistakes specially if we don't know something but on the moment that you do get or know such information then it would really be adding up in overall experience that we do have until we do consider ourselves to be that an experienced and knowledgeable person on which this is really that typical.As speaking about KYC then this won't really be something that avoidable because even if we do speak about crypto based platforms but still as years passing by, they do become that centralized and having that license on which simply means that potential KYC might be asked.

Yes, any casino that is regulated will definitely ask for KYC from their customers in the future. As long as they have the rules of KYC requirements in their policy, they have the right to ask a particular customer to perform due to some reasons best known to them. The only casinos that may not request KYC are some of the new, non-regulated casinos, and some of them can be scams too. 

Regulated casinos doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn as scam, as time goes by. Because even the casino is regulated and licensed, there are some cases that they turned as shady and eventually scam. Therefore it's still best to choose the casino to play in since you're going to risk your hard-earned money just to gamble. Anyway, nowadays, a casino asking for kyc is not isolated anymore. Thus, expect that you'll be asked of kyc if you're playing on a regulated casino.

[Lanatsa]

We aren't that perfect and it's normal that we would really be committing out mistakes specially if we don't know something but on the moment that you do get or know such information then it would really be adding up in overall experience that we do have until we do consider ourselves to be that an experienced and knowledgeable person on which this is really that typical.As speaking about KYC then this won't really be something that avoidable because even if we do speak about crypto based platforms but still as years passing by, they do become that centralized and having that license on which simply means that potential KYC might be asked.

Yes, any casino that is regulated will definitely ask for KYC from their customers in the future. As long as they have the rules of KYC requirements in their policy, they have the right to ask a particular customer to perform due to some reasons best known to them. The only casinos that may not request KYC are some of the new, non-regulated casinos, and some of them can be scams too. 

Regulated casinos doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn as scam, as time goes by. Because even the casino is regulated and licensed, there are some cases that they turned as shady and eventually scam. Therefore it's still best to choose the casino to play in since you're going to risk your hard-earned money just to gamble. Anyway, nowadays, a casino asking for kyc is not isolated anymore. Thus, expect that you'll be asked of kyc if you're playing on a regulated casino.

Not all regulated wouldnt be turned out to be a scam and it's important that you should really be wary about the probabilities and possibilities that you could really be able encounter those legit sites but doesn't mean out that they won't be turning out to be a scam. This is why it's important that you do stick with those reputable sites.Although it doesn't mean that they won't be turning be a scam but somehow you would be able to assure that you could be able to have that confidence that you are on the right place.

If you do just that hover yourself into this forum then you could really just that be able to find out tons of good sites on which you could really be able to make yourself play on without worrying about legitimacy despite on having that KYC  thing.
You wouldn't be hindering yourself just because you are really that seeing that it is really that trust able by the community.

[Hispo]

We aren't that perfect and it's normal that we would really be committing out mistakes specially if we don't know something but on the moment that you do get or know such information then it would really be adding up in overall experience that we do have until we do consider ourselves to be that an experienced and knowledgeable person on which this is really that typical.As speaking about KYC then this won't really be something that avoidable because even if we do speak about crypto based platforms but still as years passing by, they do become that centralized and having that license on which simply means that potential KYC might be asked.

Yes, any casino that is regulated will definitely ask for KYC from their customers in the future. As long as they have the rules of KYC requirements in their policy, they have the right to ask a particular customer to perform due to some reasons best known to them. The only casinos that may not request KYC are some of the new, non-regulated casinos, and some of them can be scams too. 

Regulated casinos doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn as scam, as time goes by. Because even the casino is regulated and licensed, there are some cases that they turned as shady and eventually scam. Therefore it's still best to choose the casino to play in since you're going to risk your hard-earned money just to gamble. Anyway, nowadays, a casino asking for kyc is not isolated anymore. Thus, expect that you'll be asked of kyc if you're playing on a regulated casino.

I also have the impression there is an important percentage of people within the gambling community which over-estimated the actual value the licenses have when comes to spotting differences between reliable and likely scam casinos. Licenses can be acquired by any casino which fills some basic requirements and also pays enough for the license itself, it does not guarantee anything shady will come and happen in the cute with that casino. In the case of casinos which are unlicensed or not regulated at the beginning of their operations, most of those who act in good faith and do not wish to scam any penny out their gamblers will be asked by authorities to get regulated after they have accumulated an important number of gamblers and a high enough volume, most of them will accept to get licensed, since they would not like to get their domain seized and lose all their hard work and community.

Whether we like it or not, the tendency is towards licensing, but we should not look at it as a warranty of reputation. A good reputation and time in the market is worth more than a license.

[michellee]

Regulated casinos doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn as scam, as time goes by. Because even the casino is regulated and licensed, there are some cases that they turned as shady and eventually scam. Therefore it's still best to choose the casino to play in since you're going to risk your hard-earned money just to gamble. Anyway, nowadays, a casino asking for kyc is not isolated anymore. Thus, expect that you'll be asked of kyc if you're playing on a regulated casino.

Exactly. We must be careful when selecting the casino and not just choose the casino from the review out there. We must search for many reviews before we decide so we know what casino we want. We don't know which casino that will turn into scam and which will be a legit one.

Some casino needs to do KYC before their user can process their withdrawal so we must be aware of that. We can asks about that matter with their support system so everything will be clear. We don't have to suspicious with the casino if we can collect many information about the casino.

If you want to gambling, you must search for reputable casino so you will not have any problem when you gambling. You can search the casino from this forum as we have many good casinos. That will also what we suggest to our friends when they want to know the online crypto casino.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Regulated casinos doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn as scam, as time goes by. Because even the casino is regulated and licensed, there are some cases that they turned as shady and eventually scam. Therefore it's still best to choose the casino to play in since you're going to risk your hard-earned money just to gamble. Anyway, nowadays, a casino asking for kyc is not isolated anymore. Thus, expect that you'll be asked of kyc if you're playing on a regulated casino.

Yea, that a casino is regulated doesn't give full assurance or guarantee, but there are some casinos that have been operating for so many years and have not recorded any bad activity related to scam during their year of their services. Those high reputable casinos are the kinds of casinos a gambler should trust while making a choice for the casino to gamble at. We have some old, reputable casinos on this forum, and they undoubtedly have good records, despite the fact that they also ask for KYC. 

[jossiel]

      -     I just noticed that in other casinos here in the crypto gambling business, there are actually some gambling platforms that, when they see that the winning gambler will withdraw a large amount from their platform, they don't just immediately allow it to be withdrawn; that's how they play on their platform.

That's right.

Because they have to follow it up for a KYC and they're very strict with that. Even the gambler have won it through their casino, they'd still doubt that player even they've got the records.

One reason that they might say about asking for its compliance is about money laundering. Yeah, you've won a large amount but because you want to withdraw it and take that money, they will doubt you that you'd used fund from money laundering.