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Biden had a chance and still has a chance is my take, without a recession there isnt a large amount to knock him off his perch even if he is considered way too old by some. I think to ignore that the standing president always has the advantage in the majority of cases is foolish, it takes alot for people not to reelect and thats why there is a term limit.
Perhaps there should be term limits for senators and other positions because often people stay there for years vs all challengers. Trump is popular within his own base but he will need a wider reach to actually get into office again, in some cases he will require Biden voters to opt for him. As yet I dont see that happening enough so I will remain unconvinced and the idea its all over its nonsense.
Hilary Clinton declared it all over, an obvious win after Trump appeared to lose a debate and was on tape being abusive to half the population and it wasnt a win for her at all they got it wrong. The election is a slippery thing to predict.
It's really hard to compare Clinton against Trump. Yeah, she was leading in about less than two weeks before the election, however, when news surfaces that the FBI is looking at Clinton's email again, and so this is one of the issues that might have swayed and voters suddenly shifting to Trump. Unless there will be such big revelation against Trump this October, I think it's very different for him to be beaten with all the hype like the assassination attempt on him and picturing him as the victim and the using crypto as one of this political agenda.
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It’s going to be Trump and it should be Trump. Biden isn’t fit to serve another term, he will probably not even know who his wife is by the end of another term.
I look forward to a Bitcoin friendly administration coming very soon.
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July 19, 2024, 03:20:35 PM |
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Whoever took a bet on Biden you're not going to like what the bookies think right now: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F19%2F4T5kq.png&t=665&c=dzyUXLJU48fZiA) For the Trump team nothing would change honestly, I mean if there is one nominee that is worse than Biden that's for sure Harris. But despite this, here is the change: now: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F19%2F4T7gj.png&t=665&c=_1xAJvGAaoIzug) I seriously don't know why they are giving Harris better chances
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July 19, 2024, 03:43:33 PM |
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Whoever took a bet on Biden you're not going to like what the bookies think right now: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F19%2F4T5kq.png&t=665&c=dzyUXLJU48fZiA) For the Trump team nothing would change honestly, I mean if there is one nominee that is worse than Biden that's for sure Harris. But despite this, here is the change: now: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F19%2F4T7gj.png&t=665&c=_1xAJvGAaoIzug) I seriously don't know why they are giving Harris better chances Harris has the best odds since bookmakers believe that she will be nominated as the Democratic candidate with a much higher probability than Biden, everything is simple and logical here. The only thing I don’t understand is that Harris is really the best the Democrats can offer? She's just retarded - she ends most of her answers to questions with laughter. Plus, many believe (or one might say it is widely known) that she began her career as a politician with prostitution.
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-cut- I seriously don't know why they are giving Harris better chances
Can someone living in US explain me if democrats have other serious candinates than Kamala Harris that people should know about? Because as an outsider looking in, it seems that next one (4th), Michelle Obama isn't even a serious candinate, as she is unwilling to run for presidency. Yet people lower in the charts that are sane and decent politicians. So why are people fixated on Michelle on this one? I agree that she would probably beat trump if she decided to run, but she doesn't even want to be president. Why aren't there more sane politicians higher on the list?
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I am not from the United States, so I could be completely wrong. But in my personal perception it would seem that it is not only the political right which is getting more radical in the country but also the political left is experimenting a slow radicalization, thus an important percentage of them want to see more minority representation in important positions of work, federal jobs withinnthe government included. Michelle Obama happens to be wife of the first brown president in the story of the nation, she being a black woman makes her a very good representation for minorities in the most important federal position in the country. By the way, I completely agree there is better politicians which could replace Biden, but politics in the USA has seriously devolved. The behavior of the odds is quite interesting, bettors actually believe Biden is getting replaced soon...
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I am not from the United States, so I could be completely wrong. But in my personal perception it would seem that it is not only the political right which is getting more radical in the country but also the political left is experimenting a slow radicalization, thus an important percentage of them want to see more minority representation in important positions of work, federal jobs withinnthe government included. Michelle Obama happens to be wife of the first brown president in the story of the nation, she being a black woman makes her a very good representation for minorities in the most important federal position in the country. By the way, I completely agree there is better politicians which could replace Biden, but politics in the USA has seriously devolved. The behavior of the odds is quite interesting, bettors actually believe Biden is getting replaced soon... It seems more and more likely bidne gets replaced. I think that's the only way the dems have a chance but at this point there is little spin up for the new person to gain steam. But Joe just seems past his cognitive ability to continue to run the country for the next 4 years. Be interesting to see how the odds go up and or down leading up to the November election.
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Im interested in the discussion but I wont bet on Harris and those odds look really bad to me when the evidence for a win with that particular candidate is nothing close to confident imo. I do think Harris takes over if Biden is either too ill or possibly dead, since Trump is taking shots and not young either it can apply to him also.
On that basis should I place a super long shot bet on Vance to win the presidency, since its in theory possible what odds do I get for such out of the box thinking. Harris is a no no because if nothing else Im not sure the nation is ready to elect Clinton, Harris or any women. Im not saying this is correct just what I observe as a bias, it would be revolutionary to do so. The odds arent including this obstacle of 'first ever' and I dont see she is wildly popular or even actually recognized, I could be wrong just my personal take.
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I am not from the United States, so I could be completely wrong. But in my personal perception it would seem that it is not only the political right which is getting more radical in the country but also the political left is experimenting a slow radicalization, thus an important percentage of them want to see more minority representation in important positions of work, federal jobs withinnthe government included. Michelle Obama happens to be wife of the first brown president in the story of the nation, she being a black woman makes her a very good representation for minorities in the most important federal position in the country. By the way, I completely agree there is better politicians which could replace Biden, but politics in the USA has seriously devolved.
The behavior of the odds is quite interesting, bettors actually believe Biden is getting replaced soon...
I believe that if Michelle Obama had any chances, the Democrat party would be already working on her candidature since a long time ago. Actually, I think they even tried this possibility on the backgrounds some time ago, as I saw some posts on the internet talking about her becoming senator, but it didn't go ahead. The minorities' agenda makes a lot of noise on the internet, but for real it doesn't have a considerable impact, as it's seem to be part of the most extremist sectors of the left wing most people tend to avoid. The current scenario indicates the Democrats can't find any way out. If they had a competitive name they wouldn't have launched Joe Biden this time. To do what they have been doing with this elder since the beginning already shows desperation from their side. Trump can only lose this election for health issues or for any other external reason which forbids him from taking place in the presidential chair.
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It’s going to be Trump and it should be Trump. Biden isn’t fit to serve another term, he will probably not even know who his wife is by the end of another term.
I look forward to a Bitcoin friendly administration coming very soon.
On the argument of fitness to be a president and lead the country, I very much agree that Trump should be the first choice if the choices are only Trump or Biden. On the argument of a bitcoin friendly administration, this is presently arguable. We will certainly only witness this through his actions and his people's actions. No.1 action I would like to see is Trump or someone from his cabinet to tell uncle Gary to stop the crackdowns on the whole of the cryptospace hehehehe.
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The behavior of the odds is quite interesting, bettors actually believe Biden is getting replaced soon...
Not replacing him is like shooting yourself in the foot. Harris has the best odds since bookmakers believe that she will be nominated as the Democratic candidate with a much higher probability than Biden, everything is simple and logical here. The only thing I don’t understand is that Harris is really the best the Democrats can offer? She's just retarded - she ends most of her answers to questions with laughter. Plus, many believe (or one might say it is widely known) that she began her career as a politician with prostitution.
I guess she is guaranteed a percentage of the feminist and racial vote as well as the more radicalised voters on the left in the Democratic party. But certainly any option seems better than an old fuddy-duddy who has trouble orienting himself, standing upright and with clear signs of dementia that can be seen by everyone (including enemies) every day. That's why the odds are as they stand.
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July 20, 2024, 06:12:53 AM |
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It’s going to be Trump and it should be Trump. Biden isn’t fit to serve another term, he will probably not even know who his wife is by the end of another term.
I look forward to a Bitcoin friendly administration coming very soon.
4 years ago, the President Election is like "Trump or not Trump", not "Trump or Biden". Biden is the person takes advantage of that time trend and demand in the society to beat Trump so luckily. Four years later, in 2024, Biden is facing with even a harsher demand from US citizens, Biden or not Biden in his party, not yet in competition with Trump. On the argument of fitness to be a president and lead the country, I very much agree that Trump should be the first choice if the choices are only Trump or Biden.
Age of nominee is important but Biden has more bigger issue than his age. He actually shown that many problems from ageing, so worry from US. citizens is not from pure speculation but is based on facts and Biden's performances. As a President of a big nation like the USA, if he can not remember many basic and most popular things, names of Ukraine President, his own Vice President, his wife, how will he be able to serve another Presidency with four more years.
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July 20, 2024, 06:45:03 AM |
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The behavior of the odds is quite interesting, bettors actually believe Biden is getting replaced soon...
Even Obama has expressed that Biden needs to be replaced and drop his bid for the position. Well, in stake if someone is going to take a look at the odds. Trump is the favorable one @1.44 whilst Biden gets to @10.00. The next frontrunner that's close to Trump is Kamala Harris @ 4.00. Well, it's obvious that everyone is starting to see where this election is going. But with the timeframe until the election happens, there's still a lot of time and many things can happen but even so, it's likely that the bid for Trump @1.44 is about to win.
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Harris has the best odds since bookmakers believe that she will be nominated as the Democratic candidate with a much higher probability than Biden, everything is simple and logical here. The only thing I don’t understand is that Harris is really the best the Democrats can offer? She's just retarded - she ends most of her answers to questions with laughter. Plus, many believe (or one might say it is widely known) that she began her career as a politician with prostitution.
I guess she is guaranteed a percentage of the feminist and racial vote as well as the more radicalised voters on the left in the Democratic party. But certainly any option seems better than an old fuddy-duddy who has trouble orienting himself, standing upright and with clear signs of dementia that can be seen by everyone (including enemies) every day. That's why the odds are as they stand. The fact that any other candidate is better than Biden is clear, I was only surprised by the fact that the best that the Democratic Party can nominate is Kamala Harris. By the way, I myself am not from the USA and don’t know the details, but I heard that replacing a candidate at such a late stage is not entirely legal, or at least has some difficulties? In fact, such a substitution is very wrong, because people should choose candidates and not party functionaries.
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July 20, 2024, 04:23:16 PM |
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The behavior of the odds is quite interesting, bettors actually believe Biden is getting replaced soon...
Even Obama has expressed that Biden needs to be replaced and drop his bid for the position. Well, in stake if someone is going to take a look at the odds. Trump is the favorable one @1.44 whilst Biden gets to @10.00. The next frontrunner that's close to Trump is Kamala Harris @ 4.00. Well, it's obvious that everyone is starting to see where this election is going. But with the timeframe until the election happens, there's still a lot of time and many things can happen but even so, it's likely that the bid for Trump @1.44 is about to win. Those are still allegations, by the way, the news about Obama and Nancy Pelosi talking behind closed doors to Biden about his chances and the risk of Donald Trump getting his way back into the white house. Though, I would not be surprised if Obama had a change of heart after the initial support he showed for Biden in the aftermatch of the first presidential debate. It is likely Obama is aware of the new levels of popularity Trump has had since the incident in the rally which almost cost him his life, because Biden is the former Vice president of his term, it is likely Obama tried to approach him slowly at first about dropping out. To me it is insane how the odds for Biden have devolved, from being one of the favorites to bettors assuming him getting replaced is almost inevitable...
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Also, why would you blame Hamas? Blame the reaction of the Biden administration. They are sending billions in Ukraine and Israel while the people in their country are going through financial hardships? This is very head shaking.
Good question. I was having a discussion on one of the platforms about this topic and thought it would be useful to share some thoughts here. Regarding the American position on the war in Gaza and the rate of change after the presidential elections, it is noticeable that there is not much hope that Trump will contribute to salvaging the situation a little if he wins the elections, because we have not witnessed a change in the American policy that is absolutely supportive of Israel since its declaration as a state. But Trump can use this war as a pressure card in the elections to mobilize more voters, especially those who oppose the war, as Biden cannot deny his policy of supporting Israel. Amid his electoral battle, Trump seemed contradictory in his statements. During an interview he gave to Fox News early last March, he expressed his support for the war launched by Israel on the Gaza Strip, only to return later, at the end of the same month, and say that Israel is losing international support and must end the war. But what is noteworthy is that Trump's few statements on this matter have sometimes been against the war, or rather against the Netanyahu government, while the White House was moving to persuade Israel to reach a solution to stop the war. In fact, Trump has revealed little about his views on the Gaza war, from the possibility of a ceasefire to what might happen when the fighting stops. In his statements, Trump always links Israel's right to defend itself with his talk about peace in the region, but his campaign team does not yet see any reason for him to greatly address the war in Gaza, despite the decline in support among Democrats for Biden due to his strongly supportive position. to Israel and its failure to achieve a ceasefire.
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July 20, 2024, 07:22:45 PM |
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Also, why would you blame Hamas? Blame the reaction of the Biden administration. They are sending billions in Ukraine and Israel while the people in their country are going through financial hardships? This is very head shaking.
Good question. I was having a discussion on one of the platforms about this topic and thought it would be useful to share some thoughts here. Regarding the American position on the war in Gaza and the rate of change after the presidential elections, it is noticeable that there is not much hope that Trump will contribute to salvaging the situation a little if he wins the elections, because we have not witnessed a change in the American policy that is absolutely supportive of Israel since its declaration as a state. But Trump can use this war as a pressure card in the elections to mobilize more voters, especially those who oppose the war, as Biden cannot deny his policy of supporting Israel. Amid his electoral battle, Trump seemed contradictory in his statements. During an interview he gave to Fox News early last March, he expressed his support for the war launched by Israel on the Gaza Strip, only to return later, at the end of the same month, and say that Israel is losing international support and must end the war. But what is noteworthy is that Trump's few statements on this matter have sometimes been against the war, or rather against the Netanyahu government, while the White House was moving to persuade Israel to reach a solution to stop the war. In fact, Trump has revealed little about his views on the Gaza war, from the possibility of a ceasefire to what might happen when the fighting stops. In his statements, Trump always links Israel's right to defend itself with his talk about peace in the region, but his campaign team does not yet see any reason for him to greatly address the war in Gaza, despite the decline in support among Democrats for Biden due to his strongly supportive position. to Israel and its failure to achieve a ceasefire. This is not the kind of thought to first come to mind with his choice of a vice president who cares about war even in Asia. If Vance is leaning toward suppressing China as a rising empire then NATO is with him especially when NATO is trying to expand members from Asia. This only makes the US not so united when its President is anti-war and his vice is pro-war. This is the kind of scenario in the 3rd world countries.
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In fact, Trump has revealed little about his views on the Gaza war, from the possibility of a ceasefire to what might happen when the fighting stops. Because he knows it's a hornet nest and doesn't want to touch it before the election but you're looking at the guy who moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in his previous terms, so what is there to be expected? Either way, the odds for Harris are again increasing, she's still lower than Biden but the gap is narrowing. Fun fact for some bookies: - Trump is 1.4 for the win - The winning party is 1.35 for the Republicans But I don't see anyone offering a bet for the Republican Nominee no matter the odds, which probably are in the 1:100
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It's really hard to compare Clinton against Trump. Yeah, she was leading in about less than two weeks before the election, however, when news surfaces that the FBI is looking at Clinton's email again, and so this is one of the issues that might have swayed and voters suddenly shifting to Trump.
Unless there will be such big revelation against Trump this October, I think it's very different for him to be beaten with all the hype like the assassination attempt on him and picturing him as the victim and the using crypto as one of this political agenda.
When you ask for my opinion, I will tell you that I prefer Trump over Clinton and will continue to build that support in good faith. When you look at both personalities, Clinton seems to be more tilted towards the American dream which is what has been the regular ambition of all the past contestants or at least a large pool of them. However, Trump seems to be resistant to that, while he has America in mind and wants to transform the Americans, he also have the idea of doing in an unconventional and balanced approach so that the international world can truly feel the impact of the USA without necessarily being oppressed or pushed. So, with all the assassination incident at the campaign and the way the people are raving up supports for Trump right now, he is the most talked bout candidate now and his chances are on the high side.
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July 20, 2024, 08:35:04 PM |
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Biden had a chance and still has a chance is my take, without a recession there isnt a large amount to knock him off his perch even if he is considered way too old by some. I think to ignore that the standing president always has the advantage in the majority of cases is foolish, it takes alot for people not to reelect and thats why there is a term limit.
Perhaps there should be term limits for senators and other positions because often people stay there for years vs all challengers. Trump is popular within his own base but he will need a wider reach to actually get into office again, in some cases he will require Biden voters to opt for him. As yet I dont see that happening enough so I will remain unconvinced and the idea its all over its nonsense.
Hilary Clinton declared it all over, an obvious win after Trump appeared to lose a debate and was on tape being abusive to half the population and it wasnt a win for her at all they got it wrong. The election is a slippery thing to predict.
It's really hard to compare Clinton against Trump. Yeah, she was leading in about less than two weeks before the election, however, when news surfaces that the FBI is looking at Clinton's email again, and so this is one of the issues that might have swayed and voters suddenly shifting to Trump. Where did you get this unpopular information of yours? I would appreciate it if you could furnish me with a notable publisher's link to verify it. And if you must know, Hillary Clinton won Trump in the popular vote but lost to him in the electoral college. This means that people are not swayed by anything as claimed, but the geographical choices. It's meant to happen as part of the ugly side of the US electoral law. Unless there will be such big revelation against Trump this October, I think it's very different for him to be beaten with all the hype like the assassination attempt on him and picturing him as the victim and the using crypto as one of this political agenda.
I agree with you on this, and as opposed to his presidency as I am, I think the tide is on his side and I don't think there can be any revolution against him, he is the one that can cause the trouble, so the path is clear. As for the assassination attempts, everyone knows that the perpetrator is a Republican, I believe he served himself in the attempt, no one sent him. This can't be part of what will make people decide unless they are not wise.
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