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July 17, 2024, 01:38:30 PM
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It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting.

The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above)

Well, there are people who are affiliated with the Democratic Party, or who work for it, or who ideologically would never vote Republican. But the contrast between a guy who has trouble orienting himself, or standing up, or articulating a speech at all, and a guy who has just had an assassination attempt on his life and is shouting ‘fight! fight! fight! fight!’ with his fist in the air is striking.

Odds are clearing showing the aftermath of what happened, and how Trump is almost guaranteed the presidency.

This was to be expected.

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July 17, 2024, 01:48:32 PM
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When I see the word guaranteed I start to look for the potential profit in the assumed victory not occurring.   Im not denying support and the recent events did most likely help gain votes for Trump from such a harsh negative opposition even if it was one singular fool with a gun and a ladder.

The complication is the electoral college & how depth of support in some areas is not as valuable as the breadth and diversity of support across all states.   Its not just the amount of votes but the distribution required for a win, its what surprised everyone in 2016 he got such a large protest type vote to the standing Democratic party nominated candidate and policies etc.

Im going to continue looking at this election as it winds upto November as being a equal 50/50 type outcome and thats still a large improvement for Trump.  i understand why the Republican party really didnt want to stand in the way of that story even if there were alternatives nobody wants to run and fail in an obvious way that precludes a future contest

Desantis is young enough to run in future elections and Trump is very likely on his last attempt and cant again if he wins.   Nothing is guaranteed, I dont see the economy as in the bag secure beyond doubt or multiple other negatives.   Biden people assume is on a decline hence they may hesitate to vote and that could be enough to seal the deal, I'm unsure as I believe Biden just suffers from poor speech ability as he always did but its now threadbare in old age.

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July 17, 2024, 03:45:16 PM
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Forbes/HarrisX and Economist/YouGov have released nation-wide opinion polls for POTUS election, but these were probably taken before the assassination attempt. In the poll from Forbes/HarrisX, Trump is leading both Biden and Harris by 4 points each. In the other poll, Trump is leading Biden by 2 points and Harris by 5 points. This once again validates my prediction that Harris is a much worse candidate when compared to Biden. She is too far-left to attract moderate or independent votes in any significant amounts.

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July 17, 2024, 04:07:25 PM
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It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting.

The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above)

Well, there are people who are affiliated with the Democratic Party, or who work for it, or who ideologically would never vote Republican. But the contrast between a guy who has trouble orienting himself, or standing up, or articulating a speech at all, and a guy who has just had an assassination attempt on his life and is shouting ‘fight! fight! fight! fight!’ with his fist in the air is striking.

Odds are clearing showing the aftermath of what happened, and how Trump is almost guaranteed the presidency.

This was to be expected.

People depend on the position of the Dem in the government, their jobs and their future hang in balance when Biden's presidency is also unsure. Of course, they will keep on promoting Biden after all the manifestations of his dead brain. It's very serious for those whose lives depend on who is in the position.

People who are just betting on election results can obviously just post some memes about it. Trump may become a president again. It can be a sure win but the real struggle is uniting the US.

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July 17, 2024, 04:18:14 PM
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It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting.

The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above)

Well, there are people who are affiliated with the Democratic Party, or who work for it, or who ideologically would never vote Republican. But the contrast between a guy who has trouble orienting himself, or standing up, or articulating a speech at all, and a guy who has just had an assassination attempt on his life and is shouting ‘fight! fight! fight! fight!’ with his fist in the air is striking.

Odds are clearing showing the aftermath of what happened, and how Trump is almost guaranteed the presidency.

This was to be expected.

There will be people who are associated with the Democrat party, and in reality they do not "vote blue, not matter who", they are in a sense, actually centrists which only lean towards the political left a little bit. Those are the ones who are more likely to vote for Trump, even if they are registered democrats, registration does not mean anything about the actual political ideas of the person. Believe it or not, I recall Tucker Carlson used to be a registered Democrat, even with the mostly right wing ideas he harbors and tries to transmit to the rest of his country.

With the odds leaning in favor of Trump after this incident, the race is likely to be over, unless Joe and his campaign team can come up with something impressive and do it fast enough for it to be the October surprise.

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July 17, 2024, 04:23:45 PM
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now that I have read this thread I have also decided to bet on the next American elections, I was browsing the bookmakers and I must say that all the expectations of victory are projected on Trump after the attack I would say that it is very normal that he has captured the consensus of many more than expected, then with that iconic photo taken by chance the game is practically done

I'm having interest in this election and I will love to bet some couple of money on it after the assassination attempt. Do you know any platform I can bet other than stake? I can't verify on the platform, I hve tried but it's getting rejected.

What happened this week might be an insider work or voluntary call of people but all I can say that Biden will find it difficult to win this election. Trump is a smart one and was looking for a perfect opportunity and here they wanted him dead and fail and to be frank with you, wanting someone dead because of power is nonsense, I don't like him before but he has my support.

The fact that Biden speak like someone who doesn't have something upstairs has killed him in this coming election.

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July 17, 2024, 04:52:17 PM
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Forbes/HarrisX and Economist/YouGov have released nation-wide opinion polls for POTUS election, but these were probably taken before the assassination attempt. In the poll from Forbes/HarrisX, Trump is leading both Biden and Harris by 4 points each. In the other poll, Trump is leading Biden by 2 points and Harris by 5 points. This once again validates my prediction that Harris is a much worse candidate when compared to Biden. She is too far-left to attract moderate or independent votes in any significant amounts.
I guess one of the reasons why the assassination attempt was orchestrated is that from all indications Trump stands a better chance of winning and it has gone above mere speculation and is becoming more evident and assassinating him might appear to be the best way to take him out of the equation but it has done the greater good to trump and a lot of people have started supporting trump even those that won't vote in the election because they are obviously not from the state are all being positive that Trump will emerge the winner.

We can't be too certain if the whole assassination attempt and all the bullish talk Trump has hard about crypto isn't just centered on getting votes and support from an individual of that sect and considering his personality and knowing that he is an orator those who know the game of politics to well better than Biden and the other smaller aspirant, he's certainly going to keep playing mind game with people and certainly, it's going too well in his favor.

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July 17, 2024, 05:31:05 PM
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Forbes/HarrisX and Economist/YouGov have released nation-wide opinion polls for POTUS election, but these were probably taken before the assassination attempt. In the poll from Forbes/HarrisX, Trump is leading both Biden and Harris by 4 points each. In the other poll, Trump is leading Biden by 2 points and Harris by 5 points. This once again validates my prediction that Harris is a much worse candidate when compared to Biden. She is too far-left to attract moderate or independent votes in any significant amounts.
I guess one of the reasons why the assassination attempt was orchestrated is that from all indications Trump stands a better chance of winning and it has gone above mere speculation and is becoming more evident and assassinating him might appear to be the best way to take him out of the equation but it has done the greater good to trump and a lot of people have started supporting trump even those that won't vote in the election because they are obviously not from the state are all being positive that Trump will emerge the winner.

We can't be too certain if the whole assassination attempt and all the bullish talk Trump has hard about crypto isn't just centered on getting votes and support from an individual of that sect and considering his personality and knowing that he is an orator those who know the game of politics to well better than Biden and the other smaller aspirant, he's certainly going to keep playing mind game with people and certainly, it's going too well in his favor.

For the first part, I agree. Quite a few things happened in the last few days. Trump destroyed Biden during the first presidential debate, and also some of the lawsuits against him were taken down. This probably triggered some of the sections in the far-left political spectrum, and a few of the extremists came to the conclusion that the only way to prevent Trump from winning the elections is to take him out. For the second part, I am also not 100% sure whether Trump will keep the promises on crypto. Even then, without any doubt he is more pro-crypto when compared to the current president.

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Looks like a easy +35%. And even waiting until November seems justified. By the way, Trump is already officially nominated as the Republican candidate, what about Biden? When will the Democrats finish their selection process and will we know exactly who will compete for the presidency? It seems to me that on the day when Biden is (if) finally announced as a candidate, the quotes for Trump’s victory will rise to 1.20.

I could have waited more but i thought that 1.35 odd is quite decent as you wait it can come down to 1.20 too, so its better to place the bet now and get good odds. I think as Trump will gain more popularity in the coming days, the odds for him will continue to decline.

I think that Trump is already at the peak of popularity in terms of opinion polls, etc. won't rise higher. US society is radicalized and most Democrats will vote for their candidate (even if it is the half-sane Biden lol). He has already received most of the votes of neutral voters; it is unlikely that he can receive even more if all the previous reasons for someone were insufficient.
Now, in order to be guaranteed to win, he needs not to make some critical mistake, to survive until the elections (hahaha) and another factor is for the Democrats to nominate Biden.

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July 17, 2024, 09:18:17 PM
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now that I have read this thread I have also decided to bet on the next American elections, I was browsing the bookmakers and I must say that all the expectations of victory are projected on Trump after the attack I would say that it is very normal that he has captured the consensus of many more than expected, then with that iconic photo taken by chance the game is practically done

I'm having interest in this election and I will love to bet some couple of money on it after the assassination attempt. Do you know any platform I can bet other than stake? I can't verify on the platform, I hve tried but it's getting rejected.

What happened this week might be an insider work or voluntary call of people but all I can say that Biden will find it difficult to win this election. Trump is a smart one and was looking for a perfect opportunity and here they wanted him dead and fail and to be frank with you, wanting someone dead because of power is nonsense, I don't like him before but he has my support.

The fact that Biden speak like someone who doesn't have something upstairs has killed him in this coming election.
I think Trump is so fortunate to have escaped the assassination which we still don't know who might be culprit of this attack. We just have to understand that they have finally given Trump the opportunity to win this election and it is not going to be an easy one. The assassination attempt had made Trump to gain more supporters and he's fan base is increasing. Biden is too old to take the American people to the ext level which we all want too see. He has been in government for too long amd now that he is old, I think he need to take a rest and focus on his health issues to be ameliorated.

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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Trump will win the 2024 US presidential election.  In my humble opinion both are completely unfit for office, both due their age as well as both clearly have a cognitive decline (especially Joe Biden).  

If the democrats want to have any chance of winning, they need to get Biden out of the race ASAP.  He shouldn't have been there to begin with.  Just blow my mind really.

I very much agree on your argument on the both of them! However, we should take care of ourselves and our investments in the cryptospace. Who will bring a pump on the cryptospace, will it be Trump or Biden? It appears that presently it is Trump.

On Biden being removed as the Democrats' candidate, if you put yourself in Biden's situation on being an old man with dementia, would you want to run for president or spend time with your grandchildren?

Or let's put it this way, the lesser of two evil as far as crypto goes? It will be Trump for sure. And then he get a VP that is pro crypto, so what can you ask for me from Trump, he played very well in this election and his chances almost leap up with he got Vance as his running mate,

That's why my question is the other thread is that what the US voters will value more?

their political beliefs or them being a pro-crypto voters?

We cannot create a determination who is the lesser evil, however, we can be quite certain that the government is one of the biggest causes why many people in a country are poor. I only like Trump because there is the Trump pump. If there was a Biden pump where he will declare support for bitcoin and the cryptospace then we should support Joe Biden. If the Donald Trump and Joe Biden together support bitcoin and the cryptospace then we should not support any of them hehehehe. We will thank them, however.

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Since a lot of people have already posted the odds from Stake.com, I don't want to repeat. If you want to check the odds from Real Clear Polling, here are they:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Trump has more than 60% chance of winning the election according to all the major pollsters. And surprisingly, Harris is at the second position, and not Biden. It surprises me that Biden hasn't yet pulled out of the race. Others such as Obama, Newsom, Whitmer and Clinton are all with max 3% probability each.

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July 18, 2024, 03:22:42 PM
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Since a lot of people have already posted the odds from Stake.com, I don't want to repeat. If you want to check the odds from Real Clear Polling, here are they:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Trump has more than 60% chance of winning the election according to all the major pollsters. And surprisingly, Harris is at the second position, and not Biden. It surprises me that Biden hasn't yet pulled out of the race. Others such as Obama, Newsom, Whitmer and Clinton are all with max 3% probability each.
Trump has a greater chance than others and the effect of yesterday's events did make trump much stronger than his voice to achieve such a dominance of polling votes.

And yes I am also quite surprised that Harris is in second place, even though those who intersect today are Biden and also Trump but Haris is like a wild horse that catches up slowly, he grows the electability of his voice, is it possible that the upcoming competition is Haris and Trump and Biden returns to the corner to watch?

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July 18, 2024, 06:36:52 PM
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Since a lot of people have already posted the odds from Stake.com, I don't want to repeat. If you want to check the odds from Real Clear Polling, here are they:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Trump has more than 60% chance of winning the election according to all the major pollsters. And surprisingly, Harris is at the second position, and not Biden. It surprises me that Biden hasn't yet pulled out of the race. Others such as Obama, Newsom, Whitmer and Clinton are all with max 3% probability each.
The assassination attempt on Trump a few days ago directly increased Trump electability in the eyes of Americans today, despite the controversy that occurred at the shooting, but what is certain is that now Americans are starting to sympathize with Trump and consider one of his political opponents to play dirty with assassination try , the decline in the polls that occurred on Biden I think is not related to what happened to Trump but his policies so far are often not in accordance with the vision and his mission during the previous campaign, so it is indeed the reason for the decline in the electability and trust of Americans in him at this time, besides that Biden who is currently affected by Corona no longer seems to have the support of his own party, so I think we are just waiting for the official statement  for his resignation, I personally lean to see Trump as a strong candidate to become the next president of the United States, and maybe he won't get much resistance from other presidential candidates if Biden decides to withdraw from his candidacy for president of the United States later.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/

Obama who had Biden as vice president has come out saying that Biden's chances of winning have diminished. This is kind of a non-paper since he hasn't officially stated this in any of his public channels. However there are more and more people in the democratic party who are said to been doubting Biden's bid for the presidency now. Bernie Sanders joined this crowd recently too saying Biden can't put 3 sentences together sometimes. Even George Clooney who had helped facilitate one of the Democratic Party's biggest fundraisers a month ago.

Now Biden also has covid and there news are kinda hush hush about his condition while they were very vocal about Trump's when he had it. Surely he'll make it out alive from just covid. Even some of the traditionally democratic friendly media have started criticizing Biden a lot. The cards are crumbling but now Democrats have reached so far with this president they can't back down so easily without any blow to their run for the presidency.

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July 18, 2024, 08:13:46 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/

Obama who had Biden as vice president has come out saying that Biden's chances of winning have diminished. This is kind of a non-paper since he hasn't officially stated this in any of his public channels. However there are more and more people in the democratic party who are said to been doubting Biden's bid for the presidency now. Bernie Sanders joined this crowd recently too saying Biden can't put 3 sentences together sometimes. Even George Clooney who had helped facilitate one of the Democratic Party's biggest fundraisers a month ago.

Now Biden also has covid and there news are kinda hush hush about his condition while they were very vocal about Trump's when he had it. Surely he'll make it out alive from just covid. Even some of the traditionally democratic friendly media have started criticizing Biden a lot. The cards are crumbling but now Democrats have reached so far with this president they can't back down so easily without any blow to their run for the presidency.
Democrats are in a difficult position, the calls for Biden to step down have increased but even if he did, this will bring them a set of issues as well, since it is not as if Biden got old all of a sudden, what we are seeing out of him has been a problem for a long time, so why did they gave their support to Biden? And even more importantly, if he is unfit to lead the US on the future, why is he fit to lead the US now? I really think democrats underestimated the chances Trump had of winning the election again and that is why they were happy to support Biden, but now after the events that have transpired, I doubt there is any candidate they could nominate that could beat Trump.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/

Obama who had Biden as vice president has come out saying that Biden's chances of winning have diminished. This is kind of a non-paper since he hasn't officially stated this in any of his public channels. However there are more and more people in the democratic party who are said to been doubting Biden's bid for the presidency now. Bernie Sanders joined this crowd recently too saying Biden can't put 3 sentences together sometimes. Even George Clooney who had helped facilitate one of the Democratic Party's biggest fundraisers a month ago.

Now Biden also has covid and there news are kinda hush hush about his condition while they were very vocal about Trump's when he had it. Surely he'll make it out alive from just covid. Even some of the traditionally democratic friendly media have started criticizing Biden a lot. The cards are crumbling but now Democrats have reached so far with this president they can't back down so easily without any blow to their run for the presidency.

I think most every Democrat knows that by the day bidems chance at relection is diminishing.  The event that took place in Pennsylvania I think was the tipping point.  If people were on the edge of both sides I think now they are on the republican side.  Right wrong or indifferent I can't see trump not being the next president.  They are going to use this as a way to get to peoples emotions and ride that wave until november.

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July 18, 2024, 11:31:00 PM
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Indeed Biden's political capital is running out. The Democrats could have accepted that Biden had a decent run as president. Certainly not the best but far from being bad either. He made some people very happy and completed certain promises. And put good efforts towards others.

Now, to think that instead of holding any primaries with regular candidate participation the Democratic party completely backed Biden and skipped the Democratic process, it was predetermined from higher up that Biden would run again. People don't seem to buy it anymore though. Trump is also an old man but he seems like a speedy Gonzales next to Biden now, whose health indicates he should be resting and enjoying his later days instead of running for president. A year ago they tried to play points against his age as vile propaganda. Now it's more serious than ever and can't seem to be dismissed anymore.

Dems certainly made a bad choice and now they will pay for it.

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July 18, 2024, 11:48:26 PM
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Indeed Biden's political capital is running out. The Democrats could have accepted that Biden had a decent run as president. Certainly not the best but far from being bad either. He made some people very happy and completed certain promises. And put good efforts towards others.

Now, to think that instead of holding any primaries with regular candidate participation the Democratic party completely backed Biden and skipped the Democratic process, it was predetermined from higher up that Biden would run again. People don't seem to buy it anymore though. Trump is also an old man but he seems like a speedy Gonzales next to Biden now, whose health indicates he should be resting and enjoying his later days instead of running for president. A year ago they tried to play points against his age as vile propaganda. Now it's more serious than ever and can't seem to be dismissed anymore.

Dems certainly made a bad choice and now they will pay for it.

If you also notice the supports of those big names in business industry are now in support with Trump so with this we can conclude that Biden's fame is slowly fading. And with Trump gaining a lot of support we could clearly see that victory will come on his side.

Biden is not strong candidate anymore and to many people urging him to step down, But the man have high ego then decide to continue. Now losing a lot of support will make them a total loser so I guess it will be safe for bettor to bet on more higher chance to win since its like Trumps gaining winning is now unstoppable. People are so done with Biden's words and action since its like none of it is good for them that's why he became irrelevant in this election.

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July 18, 2024, 11:49:03 PM
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Biden had a chance and still has a chance is my take, without a recession there isnt a large amount to knock him off his perch even if he is considered way too old by some.   I think to ignore that the standing president always has the advantage in the majority of cases is foolish, it takes alot for people not to reelect and thats why there is a term limit. 

Perhaps there should be term limits for senators and other positions because often people stay there for years vs all challengers.  Trump is popular within his own base but he will need a wider reach to actually get into office again, in some cases he will require Biden voters to opt for him.  As yet I dont see that happening enough so I will remain unconvinced and the idea its all over its nonsense.

  Hilary Clinton declared it all over, an obvious win after Trump appeared to lose a debate and was on tape being abusive to half the population and it wasnt a win for her at all they got it wrong.   The election is a slippery thing to predict.

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