2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[alani123]

The United Auto Workers union, one of the biggest unions in the united states, came out endorsing Kamala Harris with a very scathing video against trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkoaZUvvPI

It's interesting that while UAW had also endorsed Hillary in 2016, the democratic party has since taken a turn to be even more right wing. There's a lot of talk about class issues from the UAW but the Biden administration put through many policies that made the rich richer and the poor poorer. Surely things for America's poor may have been a little worse under Trump but this lesser of two evils logic isn't getting anyone anywhere in the long run.

UAW and other unions are good at saying who's actually worse for America's workers but who's going to say the Democrat's faults out loud also?

[Sithara007]

The United Auto Workers union, one of the biggest unions in the united states, came out endorsing Kamala Harris with a very scathing video against trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkoaZUvvPI

It's interesting that while UAW had also endorsed Hillary in 2016, the democratic party has since taken a turn to be even more right wing. There's a lot of talk about class issues from the UAW but the Biden administration put through many policies that made the rich richer and the poor poorer. Surely things for America's poor may have been a little worse under Trump but this lesser of two evils logic isn't getting anyone anywhere in the long run.

UAW and other unions are good at saying who's actually worse for America's workers but who's going to say the Democrat's faults out loud also?

Unions supporting Kamala doesn't really surprise me. And these people doesn't have much sway on swing states anyway, as their votes are concentrated in deep blue states such as Michigan, Illinios and California. They have close to 1 million active and retired members, and most of them are registered Democrat voters anyway. BTW, after the initial bump for Kamala, opinion polls are once again showing Donald Trump in the lead. The poll from FOX News put him one point ahead (50% vs 49%), while the Cook Political Report shows Trump ahead in Nevada and Florida.

[el kaka22]

Trump being able to reach out to this many people isn't really that complicated, he will of course be able to love that up and Twitter allows him to reach a lot of people. However, I feel like we are going to not see this change any points for anyone. You need to have a good ground up work, which means that we are going to have some trouble but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this to change this as much as possible, it's going to be probably nothing at all for the votes.

The real way of making some changes will be just realizing that you are going to end up being there, and that's the most important one and should be very important to realize that it's going to be something that personalized, this should be very important to come face to face with people to ask for votes, that's how you get people out. Also, media doesn't share twitter chats, but if you end up going live, they will share all of your speech and that's a lot more important as well.

[Hispo]

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I mean, it is obvious Trump does not have any problem to connect and attract people to his movement (MAGA), otherwise he would not be a successful politicians as he is. Though, I am starting to see a clear conflict of interest when comes to Trump and Twitter/X.
He knows he could easily reach millions of people easier if he moved back to Twitter/X and started to rant there about whatever he wants, but he also have interest on his own social media "truth social" not going down the drain completely and shut down. Because people seem to forget the only reason there is a minimum of traffick on Truth social is because the presence of Trump there, instead of Twitter.
Sooner of latter Trump will have to decided what matters the most for him: either to keep his own bootleg social media on float or reach thousands of additional people who are only on touch with Twitter/X. As the election is probably going to be a close one, I would expect Trump ditching TS and embracing Musk's "Twitter" as a bonus to increase his chances of winning.

[OgNasty]

I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.

[STT]

The way it was described to me was a Harris win so long as she does not wear out her new comer advantage, even though she has been VP for these past years to be a serious contender is new I guess.   Like anyone in politics she has her enemies and just generally anyone famous will have bad things written about them sooner or later, can she last as the 'new girl' till November.

However I think its more about Trump and his near death experience.  That is a definite advantage and swings votes towards him as literally a leader under fire who needs support, some especially on the right will respond to that and vote for him no doubt.    So can that advantage last till November or will any post assassin gains be zero by then.


   At least in the middle ground votes, some will decay to neutral or swap sides thats why they are the swing voters after all.
If theres an hour glass on either on either, its probably mostly Trump.  I do think his odds now as are peaked & favorable as they can be, he must win that debate to have a chance;  if they were to live fact check everything he says and on live TV then he is cooked

[el kaka22]

It was a good interview despite the cryptospace was not mentioned. They talked about decreasing government spending to reduce inflation, the environment, the southern border and other important concerns for America. However, the mainstream news media appears to be misinforming everyone by publishing headlines that Trump was talking stupidly and talking about conspiracy theories. This is not true because I listened to the interview. Everything appeared to be a normal interview very much similar to a podcast.

I listened to it as well, and he was talking about some "secret DNC shadowy figures that took over the election" type of nonsense, which is what the media is talking about. The idea is that Trump insists that kamala "stole" the nomination from Biden, with the backing of some "shadowy dnc figures", like Obama and Nancy pelosi, he honestly believes that Biden still wants to be a nominee, but it was taken from him by force. He did talk about that, and this is a conspiracy theory, because there isn't any proof to it so him saying this becomes a conspiracy if he doesn't provide any proof at all.

We can't make it change at all, we need to realize that we are going to end up with some issues if he is not careful with any of this, if he keeps talking about this wild claims, then voters will think that he is just an old man saying nonsense and he will lose votes. If he wants to win, he needs to focus on the border control, which democrats suck at right now.

[alani123]

The Trump campaign appears to be at a crossroards.

Trump seems to be walking back on some hardline stances he had and it shows. From his recent press conference he made it clear that his administration wasn't so much about abortion and they wouldn't pay a lot of attention to it policy wise, other than maybe letting states decide. Then he also went on to say that rape and health should be a valid cause for abortion.

Of course the media didn't play this bit but it's quite important. It shows that Trump and his campaign people are capable of picking up what topics are having people interested into them these days. So Trump isn't completely tone deaf and has started talking more about popular topics.

On his campaign trail now he has stopped using the slogan "Finish the Job" in relation to Israel's genocide against Palestinians and instead just says that October 7th should have never happened. Of course we all understand this is a contradiction from his policy suggestion to stop supplying arms and military aid abroad but it shows that the language has changed and Trump is now feeling the heat and working harder to win votes.

Hopefully they realize that the real pressing issues these days are the reduction of the working class' purchasing power as well as anti-war messages. With the Biden administration enacting head-on neoliberal policies all day that make the poor poorer and the rich richer, as well as continuing funding wars in Israel and Ukraine in full, Trump's campaign has an easy attack angle.

If Trump realizes that it's a contradiction to say the war in Ukraine must be solved diplomatically while supporting Israel in a genocide is a contradiction, he'll have much better chances at winning. Surely he would be attacked by many powers that be, but it would also play up as his underdog image more like in 2016.

[bbc.reporter]

The United Auto Workers union, one of the biggest unions in the united states, came out endorsing Kamala Harris with a very scathing video against trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkoaZUvvPI

It's interesting that while UAW had also endorsed Hillary in 2016, the democratic party has since taken a turn to be even more right wing. There's a lot of talk about class issues from the UAW but the Biden administration put through many policies that made the rich richer and the poor poorer. Surely things for America's poor may have been a little worse under Trump but this lesser of two evils logic isn't getting anyone anywhere in the long run.

UAW and other unions are good at saying who's actually worse for America's workers but who's going to say the Democrat's faults out loud also?

Unions supporting Kamala doesn't really surprise me. And these people doesn't have much sway on swing states anyway, as their votes are concentrated in deep blue states such as Michigan, Illinios and California. They have close to 1 million active and retired members, and most of them are registered Democrat voters anyway. BTW, after the initial bump for Kamala, opinion polls are once again showing Donald Trump in the lead. The poll from FOX News put him one point ahead (50% vs 49%), while the Cook Political Report shows Trump ahead in Nevada and Florida.

I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

[passwordnow]

If Trump realizes that it's a contradiction to say the war in Ukraine must be solved diplomatically while supporting Israel in a genocide is a contradiction, he'll have much better chances at winning. Surely he would be attacked by many powers that be, but it would also play up as his underdog image more like in 2016.

AFAIK, EU doesn't like his moves towards Israel but the world is watching now the war with Ukraine and Russia. While the Biden administration is on the funding in support to the war. Trump is saying that he would fix that and have the peace in the region. It's only a matter of time on what kind of actions he'd do and will balance the stance of these nations from these wars. We need to see it stopped soon. I thought that there's a lielow on that region when there were no longer news that I am hearing and reading but then, a few days ago there goes the news again about the war. Or else, there's just pretty much news blackout all over the region to make the world think that they're already in truce. Thanks to internet, news can be verified and speculations too.

[Sithara007]

I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.

[stompix]

I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala.

"Birds of a feather flock together"
I am amazed you don't realize what a big country yours is and how many people have different ideas about how everything would need to be run, and at the same time you don't realize that voting for one doesn't necessarily mean support but also a vote so that the other guy doesn't get elected, it happened in France recently for example.

Besides I find it highly ironic that now you doubt bookies, one month ago you were saying that bookies are way better indicators than media or polls:

It is incredibly telling that the media is trying to push this narrative that Harris is beating Trump in the polls while gambling markets are overwhelming telling a different story. Maybe we need to start gambling on all the news events so we can actually get some truth instead of the media pushing their agenda.

You know what this is, right? It's called denial!

Anyhow speaking about gambling since that's what this thread is about, why not take advantage of it:
1.8 Kamala Harris
2.0 Donald Trump
Easy money, right?

If Trump realizes that it's a contradiction to say the war in Ukraine must be solved diplomatically while supporting Israel in a genocide is a contradiction, he'll have much better chances at winning.

Yeah cause it's so simple, let's review a bit of Trump ME politics
- retreat from Afghanistan and Irak, good
- moving the embassy to Jerusalem, not so good
- sending 100 tomahawks on Syria because he got pissed, not that good
- ordering the killing of Iran highest general, not good at all
- Executive Order 13769 , banning of muslims to enter the US....do I have to even grade this?

[LUCKMCFLY]

The way it was described to me was a Harris win so long as she does not wear out her new comer advantage, even though she has been VP for these past years to be a serious contender is new I guess.   Like anyone in politics she has her enemies and just generally anyone famous will have bad things written about them sooner or later, can she last as the 'new girl' till November.

However I think its more about Trump and his near death experience.  That is a definite advantage and swings votes towards him as literally a leader under fire who needs support, some especially on the right will respond to that and vote for him no doubt.    So can that advantage last till November or will any post assassin gains be zero by then.


   At least in the middle ground votes, some will decay to neutral or swap sides thats why they are the swing voters after all.
If theres an hour glass on either on either, its probably mostly Trump.  I do think his odds now as are peaked & favorable as they can be, he must win that debate to have a chance;  if they were to live fact check everything he says and on live TV then he is cooked

It's just that Trump has been through more extreme things than Kamala, Kamala is just a replacement option for Biden, and Biden was doing badly, he was losing against Trump, I understand all the analysis that can be done within the leadership of the Democrats and the Republicans, but what is visible does not need glasses, there is reality, and as you say, Trump's experience having been so close to death is something that makes Americans believe that he is a committed guy and that he only cares about his nation, plus the majority are disappointed with Biden and his management, that does not help at all.

[kro55]

I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.

Not all Democrats hate bitcoin or cryptocurrency and the Crypto4Harris campaign was created by those members, and what's more interesting, appears to have no involvement from Harris. Harris is the candidate but the campaign didn't get her endorsement, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The most important person refuses to participate in campaign, so I wonder how voting for her will benefit us.

Also, through this, we realized that the democratic party was just taking advantage of us, they didn't really want to change their anti-bitcoin stance. If they really changed and cared about crypto they should have done it a long time ago like the Republican Party did and needed Harris's participation.

[wheelz1200]

The way it was described to me was a Harris win so long as she does not wear out her new comer advantage, even though she has been VP for these past years to be a serious contender is new I guess.   Like anyone in politics she has her enemies and just generally anyone famous will have bad things written about them sooner or later, can she last as the 'new girl' till November.

However I think its more about Trump and his near death experience.  That is a definite advantage and swings votes towards him as literally a leader under fire who needs support, some especially on the right will respond to that and vote for him no doubt.    So can that advantage last till November or will any post assassin gains be zero by then.


   At least in the middle ground votes, some will decay to neutral or swap sides thats why they are the swing voters after all.
If theres an hour glass on either on either, its probably mostly Trump.  I do think his odds now as are peaked & favorable as they can be, he must win that debate to have a chance;  if they were to live fact check everything he says and on live TV then he is cooked

It's just that Trump has been through more extreme things than Kamala, Kamala is just a replacement option for Biden, and Biden was doing badly, he was losing against Trump, I understand all the analysis that can be done within the leadership of the Democrats and the Republicans, but what is visible does not need glasses, there is reality, and as you say, Trump's experience having been so close to death is something that makes Americans believe that he is a committed guy and that he only cares about his nation, plus the majority are disappointed with Biden and his management, that does not help at all.

Unfortunately I think you are right when talking about trump being so close to death.  But talk about recency biased.  This was a man making a speech.  John McCain while serving his country was a POW for over 5 years, with a lot of that time in solitary confinement.  He didn't end up winning but somehow the American people think this is different.  I'm not saying right wrong or indifferent but those 2 events don't remotely come close together so why would trump get in just because of that?

[Sithara007]

Not all Democrats hate bitcoin or cryptocurrency and the Crypto4Harris campaign was created by those members, and what's more interesting, appears to have no involvement from Harris. Harris is the candidate but the campaign didn't get her endorsement, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The most important person refuses to participate in campaign, so I wonder how voting for her will benefit us.

Also, through this, we realized that the democratic party was just taking advantage of us, they didn't really want to change their anti-bitcoin stance. If they really changed and cared about crypto they should have done it a long time ago like the Republican Party did and needed Harris's participation.

It doesn't really matter if some low ranking Democrat actually supports cryptocurrency. Democrat establishment remains vehemently opposed to the very idea of cryptocurrency. It goes against their very idea of deep state control on citizens. Now what happens is that at least some of the cryptocurrency users get fooled by all these theatrics, and end up donating to the Dems. And they use these funds to go after the cryptocurrency users. Only people like Sam Bankman-Fried are going to benefit from any potential Kamala presidency.
 

[bbc.reporter]

I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.

Agreed! Kamala and her team only do this to collect more funding from the communities in the cryptospace, however, they also do this to gather more votes for them and also gather the votes from these people who would have voted for Donald Trump.

If a Democrat will win, we can be quite certain it will be uncle Gary, grandma Warren and white hair Yellen cracking down on the cryptospace and create a CBDC world in America.

[Catenaccio]

It doesn't really matter if some low ranking Democrat actually supports cryptocurrency. Democrat establishment remains vehemently opposed to the very idea of cryptocurrency. It goes against their very idea of deep state control on citizens. Now what happens is that at least some of the cryptocurrency users get fooled by all these theatrics, and end up donating to the Dems. And they use these funds to go after the cryptocurrency users. Only people like Sam Bankman-Fried are going to benefit from any potential Kamala presidency.

Four years with Joe Biden - Kamala Harris with unfriendly policies and regulations on cryptocurrency market are enough to understand their approach on this industry. It is unrealistic to think that the USA. under Kamala Harris administration (if she gets elected in November) will change immediately and completely after she becomes a President.

Kamala also tries to copy promised policies from Donald Trump and it shows she is not able to think and launch his own good policies to attract citizens and votes.

[Shinpako09]

I've been searching polls, and their ratings are quite close. Maybe this could be one of the closest Presidential Elections in the U.S. Anyway, both parties seem to have become positive about crypto. I doubt they will continue that stance after the election. They are obviously using it because they know it can significantly impact their campaign, considering the number of voters involved in crypto. Anyway, I'll put my bet on Trump this time, just gambling.

[Sithara007]

Four years with Joe Biden - Kamala Harris with unfriendly policies and regulations on cryptocurrency market are enough to understand their approach on this industry. It is unrealistic to think that the USA. under Kamala Harris administration (if she gets elected in November) will change immediately and completely after she becomes a President.

Kamala also tries to copy promised policies from Donald Trump and it shows she is not able to think and launch his own good policies to attract citizens and votes.

Kamala Harris is just trying different tactics to win votes from different demographics. Cryptocurrency users represents a numerically insignificant voting bloc, but they are important financially. And unlike the case with 2020 elections, this time Democrats are running pretty low on funds. On the other hand, the Republicans are in good financial health. Now Kamala is desperate for cash, and that is one of the reasons why she is softening her stance on crypto. But once she gets elected, she will show her real face once again.