2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[Webetcoins]

I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.

What you are missing (which all of republicans missed in 2020 as well) that this election is not Trump vs Kamala, never was, never will be, it has always been Trump vs Not-Trump, and same was true for 2020 as well because nobody voted for Biden because they loved Biden, and neither will they for Kamala as well.

Trump is such a figure that people do really hate him, or love him meaning that people who vote for him love him, and people who vote for his opponent hate him without a doubt. So that means, it is not about Kamala at all, nobody has to like her, it could be Kamala, it could be you, it could be me, it could be a trash can, doesn't matter who it is, as long as it's not Trump.

This is how Democrats won 2020, someone who hasn't been dragged through the mud, which Hillary was and that's why they lost in 2016, so they realized maybe it's time to just bring in a new player, and that's what they did and everyone joined the bandwagon of hating Trump and voting for his opponent, it's that simple.

[OgNasty]

I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.

What you are missing (which all of republicans missed in 2020 as well) that this election is not Trump vs Kamala, never was, never will be, it has always been Trump vs Not-Trump, and same was true for 2020 as well because nobody voted for Biden because they loved Biden, and neither will they for Kamala as well.

Trump is such a figure that people do really hate him, or love him meaning that people who vote for him love him, and people who vote for his opponent hate him without a doubt. So that means, it is not about Kamala at all, nobody has to like her, it could be Kamala, it could be you, it could be me, it could be a trash can, doesn't matter who it is, as long as it's not Trump.

This is how Democrats won 2020, someone who hasn't been dragged through the mud, which Hillary was and that's why they lost in 2016, so they realized maybe it's time to just bring in a new player, and that's what they did and everyone joined the bandwagon of hating Trump and voting for his opponent, it's that simple.

I get that it is Trump against not Trump. I just have a hard time understanding why that is for so many seemingly normal people. Sure, if you are mentally ill and want to wear the opposite sex’s clothes while living off the government then Democrats might be the party for you. But why are so many seemingly non-retards still willing to vote against Trump when he literally gave us world peace and prosperity?

[o48o]

I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.

Do you think that your news feed / social media feed and circle of real life people you see is a good enough sample size? I find that weird. Are you hanging lot around with democrats that voted for biden? Or why do you believe that persons in your life would vote anything other than same as you? I don't personally hang around with anyone who supports trump or right wing, but i wouldn't draw any conclusions like that they wouldn't exist from that.

News feed algorithms are build in a way that they will amplify our confirmation bias. If your close circle of friends has any Harris voters in it, they might have even restricted you, because if you use your time to mock them or use inflammatory language, ask yourself: who needs that on their social media? People are learning that they have right to choose who follows them and whom they share their stories with and banning is getting quite common, just like you wouldn't like people who annoy you in same bar table either.

Imho not knowing peple who are voting for opposition is not in any way good way to predict the outcome,

[bitgolden]

I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.

Aside from the "possible" 30% tax on proof of work, which would be on their claim helping the off-set the energy they are consuming as a subsidy to energy companies, what else have they done?

In fact, they jailed so many crypto scammers in the last four years, more than any other president has ever done before. So, this "claim" that you have is only based on just a concept of a new law, that is not even passed yet, may pass if given democrats the chance but still hasn't even passed, and there has never been anything else they have done wrong to them. If you really insist and want to make sure that you have all the facts rights, just list us what they have done wrong to ruin crypto, I am waiting for the list, or it's just republican propaganda nothing more.

The exchange lawsuit was about Binance allowing Russians to move money in and out of USA, which was banned at the time, you want Binance to have rights to do stuff nobody else can do? No bank can do it, no company can do it, but binance should be able to do it? Why give them the right? Why should Binance be able to when nobody else can? They didn't even punish them right away, they warned them, Binance didn't care and still kept going. It's such a simple lie that it's so easily proven to be wrong.

[Hispo]

The exchange lawsuit was about Binance allowing Russians to move money in and out of USA, which was banned at the time, you want Binance to have rights to do stuff nobody else can do? No bank can do it, no company can do it, but binance should be able to do it? Why give them the right? Why should Binance be able to when nobody else can? They didn't even punish them right away, they warned them, Binance didn't care and still kept going. It's such a simple lie that it's so easily proven to be wrong.

I did not completely understand the lawsuit against Binance, to be honest. ws it because they allowed Russian assets to be move around the world through Binance or was it because it was proven some extremist groups in the middle east were able to move money thanks to Binance, going through the alledged security filters which were supposed to be in place?

Regardless the case, I agree Binance is not supposed not be given an special treatment when compared to other banking institutions which would be immediately fined if they violated the terms and rule set by the federal government of the USA.

I would bet those rules and restrictions would not change too much regardless the winner is Trump or Kamala Harris.

[pawel7777]

OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

[Hispo]

OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

With all the wacky and unprecedented things which have been going on in the United States, including the failed assassination attempt against him, it is possible he has reached a ceiling of people who can appeal to with his speech and his political rethoric,.you know. The only people left to convince for a vote are rather moderate and I decided whether to vote for republicans of democrats. Notice how Trump speech has started to become more and more extreme to the right, making it unappealing to the independent voters, only appealing for the Maga people he already had in his pocket.
On the other hand, Kamala a Harris is trying not only to appeal to the core democrat base of the USA, but also those independents who do not feel like giving a chance to.Trump, polls are an image of it so that is why Trump is getting his odds changed.

Still does not mean much, as odds can chance and polls can be wrong.

[pawel7777]

(...) Notice how Trump speech has started to become more and more extreme to the right, making it unappealing to the independent voters, only appealing for the Maga people he already had in his pocket.

I'm not American, so might not be properly looped in on the recent affairs, but what exactly did he say that could be considered an "extreme" right-wing (if this term means anything anymore at all)?
I've noticed he's getting a lot of criticism for not being enough right-wing, i.e. supporting mass legal immigration or being unconditionally pro-Israel rather than pro-USA.

On the other hand, Kamala a Harris is trying not only to appeal to the core democrat base of the USA, but also those independents who do not feel like giving a chance to.Trump, polls are an image of it so that is why Trump is getting his odds changed.

But does she have any support outside of people who not want Trump to win? i.e. have you met anyone who would legitimately think she's a presidential material?
She's coming across as very fake and off-putting.

[tech30338]

Small chance for Biden to return, also having seen his condition i don't think the people think he is fit for the job, also that failed trump assassination or we don't know, is a big blow and will really lean on trump side, everyone is fulling the strings to hold their post but the people will decided, on the bright side Elon siding with trump makes us think brighter about crypto and also trump showing in the bitcoin conference is a great deal.

[bbc.reporter]

OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

Similar to what I have mentioned before, Trump's loss of his momentum presently is not bad. It would be bad if this loss of momentum will be on October or the last weeks before the election. Trump can begin increasing is campaign activity again on the first week of October and create maximum activity on the 2 weeks before the election. Maintenance of momentum from today to election day is impossible and this might also cause something similar to an exhaustion of funds, their team's energy and the people's attention. Trump's ratings is also very much near Kamala, this is very good for their campaign and easy to recover hehe.

[Poker Player]

OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

I've heard a conspiracy theory on the subject, but since I don't quite believe it, I'll spare you. The normal thing is that there are people who hate Trump and vote for any Democratic candidate instead of him but that many millions are there?

Also, to me Kamala doesn't seem very articulate speaking.

I would still put my money on Trump but I expect any outcome, more so when the election is decided in a few swing states.

[bbc.reporter]

@Poker Player. She appears to be drunk on alcohol when she speaks hehehe. There are also different videos and articles criticizing her for using different accents in her speeches. If she is in the deep south, she uses deep southern accent. If she is in the midwest, she uses midwestern accent. I very much want to listen to her speech in New Jersey to witness her New Jersey accent hehehehe.

Also, this is good news for the supporters of the Donald Trump. He has the lead again after the opening hype on Kamala.

https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1724203015124

[BlackBoss_]

I would still put my money on Trump but I expect any outcome, more so when the election is decided in a few swing states.

Trump might win or lose this election but my belief and support goes to him, not Kamala Harris. I feel that Trump can win in most of swing states because with latest revealing truth on hidden things in last four years, about Biden, his administration and Kamala Harris as well as what happened recent months and latest days around DNC, people who live in swing states have more source of information to feel danger of Kamala Harris and her policy.

@Poker Player. She appears to be drunk on alcohol when she speaks hehehe. There are also different videos and articles criticizing her for using different accents in her speeches. If she is in the deep south, she uses deep southern accent. If she is in the midwest, she uses midwestern accent. I very much want to listen to her speech in New Jersey to witness her New Jersey accent hehehehe.

I did not know too much about her but latest weeks, since the torch pass from Biden to Harris, I watched more videos on Kamala Harris and my feeling is I can not trust her. Her speech is not convincing with me and I know both Harris and Trump don't say truth, my belief still goes to Trump, not Harris. The way she speeches is very hard to trust and what happened in the USA recent years with its border policy is very bad. What her party did recent years to censor information and centralized control citizens very arbitrarily. These things make me feel that Harris is not a better choice for a next President position in the USA.

Also, this is good news for the supporters of the Donald Trump. He has the lead again after the opening hype on Kamala.

https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1724203015124

There are enough time for Trump and Harris to make changes in their rallies and coming election but for now, it's good news for Donald Trump and his supporters.

[Julien_Olynpic]

I don't support anyone in this upcoming November election, but I am interested in the fate of cryptocurrencies, because now we can already see how the candidates treat cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin. Trump has recently become almost a Bitcoin maximalist like Maul Saylor, but he is afraid of offending altcoin supporters as well. We know that his sons are involved in the creation of memecoins, or at least there is such information. How Kamala Harris feels about cryptocurrencies is still unknown. She can't say anything intelligible about it. Although we know that her husband is a crypto enthusiast, this is very little to understand Kamala's worldview.

[avp2306]

OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

I've heard a conspiracy theory on the subject, but since I don't quite believe it, I'll spare you. The normal thing is that there are people who hate Trump and vote for any Democratic candidate instead of him but that many millions are there?

Also, to me Kamala doesn't seem very articulate speaking.

I would still put my money on Trump but I expect any outcome, more so when the election is decided in a few swing states.

Surprising to see that one, although there would be a changes and Kamala did something great to take a lead against Trump. But don't see any mind blowing actions done by Democrats.

I  try to search to know more about Harris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris_2024_presidential_campaign she have good portfolio brought in his candicy.

Maybe for now that catch the heart of some people. But I guess later on maybe they realize that they need a dominant President and I think Trump is really fit for that seat.

Same with u I also put my money on Trump because what I think he have a good chance to win. I ignore the poll result since its like there's something wrong with those result they show to the public.

[Sithara007]

Same with u I also put my money on Trump because what I think he have a good chance to win. I ignore the poll result since its like there's something wrong with those result they show to the public.

One of the reasons why I always go with Trump is that he is always underestimated by the bookmakers. This happened twice - first in 2016, and then again in 2020. I have checked odds for Trump in various online gambling sites, and the best I could get was around 1.60. Given the fact that he is leading in states such as Pennsylvania, I believe that the odds should be close to 1.3-1.4. On the other hand, Kamala's campaign is resembling that of Hillary Clinton in 2016 with each passing day. She is going to lose really bad.

[SquallLeonhart]

I've heard a conspiracy theory on the subject, but since I don't quite believe it, I'll spare you. The normal thing is that there are people who hate Trump and vote for any Democratic candidate instead of him but that many millions are there?

Also, to me Kamala doesn't seem very articulate speaking.

I would still put my money on Trump but I expect any outcome, more so when the election is decided in a few swing states.

That's literally the reason. I mean you can search all the heavy democrat places, like for example Reddit has a ton of democrats, just check the politics subreddit and you will see them and why they are voting.

Number one reason is because they hate Trump and they would vote for anyone, over 70+ million people would have voted for even Biden when he wasn't able to walk properly or talk properly, Biden wasn't like very down, he was still competing, and that's with a dude who can't even rule over a cheeseburger.

Now that they have someone who is at least a bit decent? A judge nevertheless? Against the criminal nominee on the other side that they hate? That alone is good enough and I think she is going to win not because they like her, but because they hate him. This was the case in 2020 too, nobody cared it was Biden, it could have been Pete, Kamala, Bernie, anyone really and they would have still voted for them and still win them the election, same here.

[Silberman]

I've heard a conspiracy theory on the subject, but since I don't quite believe it, I'll spare you. The normal thing is that there are people who hate Trump and vote for any Democratic candidate instead of him but that many millions are there?

Also, to me Kamala doesn't seem very articulate speaking.

I would still put my money on Trump but I expect any outcome, more so when the election is decided in a few swing states.

That's literally the reason. I mean you can search all the heavy democrat places, like for example Reddit has a ton of democrats, just check the politics subreddit and you will see them and why they are voting.

Number one reason is because they hate Trump and they would vote for anyone, over 70+ million people would have voted for even Biden when he wasn't able to walk properly or talk properly, Biden wasn't like very down, he was still competing, and that's with a dude who can't even rule over a cheeseburger.

Now that they have someone who is at least a bit decent? A judge nevertheless? Against the criminal nominee on the other side that they hate? That alone is good enough and I think she is going to win not because they like her, but because they hate him. This was the case in 2020 too, nobody cared it was Biden, it could have been Pete, Kamala, Bernie, anyone really and they would have still voted for them and still win them the election, same here.

I really think that both the democrats and republicans made a mistake when they picked Biden and Trump respectively for this election, now the democrats realized their mistake and picked Harris, but the republicans are stuck with Trump, and I say this because there are a lot of people out there that do not agree with the policies of Harris but they hate Trump, so they will vote for her anyway, however if the republicans had picked anyone other than Trump I think they would have a comfortable lead by now, since the economic policies being pushed forward by them make more sense than what the democrats are proposing.

[STT]

Republicans didnt choose Trump especially, unlike the Democrat party who told their voters who they will be nominating and voting for it was the other way round with the Republican party.   The cart is leading the donkey or is it the elephant I forget but either way they have become polar opposites now.

  I agree before it was just two old white men sabre rattling but thats been the race almost every time for hundreds of years, now we need to witness does USA once again want to break those chains and vote differently.  The bias has to favor Trump for now.

Kamala's campaign is resembling that of Hillary Clinton in 2016 with each passing day. She is going to lose really bad.

That is the contrast Im looking at but is the campaign itself able to self examine and alter course to avoid wrecking on the same rocks that caught Clintons attempt.   On the night 2016 of the election count they declared early Clinton had won, nobody had a clue; dont take the polls as gospel.
[She did win the popular count but not the college]

[LUCKMCFLY]

The way it was described to me was a Harris win so long as she does not wear out her new comer advantage, even though she has been VP for these past years to be a serious contender is new I guess.   Like anyone in politics she has her enemies and just generally anyone famous will have bad things written about them sooner or later, can she last as the 'new girl' till November.

However I think its more about Trump and his near death experience.  That is a definite advantage and swings votes towards him as literally a leader under fire who needs support, some especially on the right will respond to that and vote for him no doubt.    So can that advantage last till November or will any post assassin gains be zero by then.


   At least in the middle ground votes, some will decay to neutral or swap sides thats why they are the swing voters after all.
If theres an hour glass on either on either, its probably mostly Trump.  I do think his odds now as are peaked & favorable as they can be, he must win that debate to have a chance;  if they were to live fact check everything he says and on live TV then he is cooked

It's just that Trump has been through more extreme things than Kamala, Kamala is just a replacement option for Biden, and Biden was doing badly, he was losing against Trump, I understand all the analysis that can be done within the leadership of the Democrats and the Republicans, but what is visible does not need glasses, there is reality, and as you say, Trump's experience having been so close to death is something that makes Americans believe that he is a committed guy and that he only cares about his nation, plus the majority are disappointed with Biden and his management, that does not help at all.

Unfortunately I think you are right when talking about trump being so close to death.  But talk about recency biased.  This was a man making a speech.  John McCain while serving his country was a POW for over 5 years, with a lot of that time in solitary confinement.  He didn't end up winning but somehow the American people think this is different.  I'm not saying right wrong or indifferent but those 2 events don't remotely come close together so why would trump get in just because of that?

I think that McCain's thing is something that is very appropriate to bring up so that most people have to recognize it and well, they are people who have to be recognized, but I think that now what stays most in people's minds and psyches is the most recent, and the most recent is what is most in people's minds, it is the most viral and since social networks make any event fly, this influences a lot, and even more in politics because I consider that on a global level it has a unique significance.