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[memehunter]

Anyway lost both my slips last night, and both thanks to my team (Barca) lol who although didn't lose, but didn't win. Was fun tho

I got your PM and it is indeed tough to win all three legs of a parlay bet. But there is a way to maximize your winning chances in these contests. First of all, you should wait for the completion of your bets before posting them in the parlay contest thread, not because you cannot edit but because even if they loose you can submit them as valid entry in 'Predict the Minute of 1st Goal ' contest. You posted unresolved bets which made them ineligible for the other contest. You basically lost two free entries.
BTW, both contests are live for this week too and anyone thinking of participating should not wait for the last moment as you will have less time to pick a well thought out parlay which can make a big difference.

1.)  Betpanda Mutlibet/Parlay Challenge | $100 Prize pool | 4 Places Paid | 17/03
2.) Betpanda Predict the Minute of 1st Goal | $100 Prize pool | 4 Winners | 18/03

You can submit three entries in each of the contests.

[Woodie]

I think it's a bit inconvenient to scroll down every time just to change the odds format, especially when playing on mobile. It's even more frustrating because the setting doesn't save automatically. I also noticed there's no option to set a default odds format in the settings, only a few default currency options are available. Personally, reading any odds format other than Decimal European is confusing for me since I'm not familiar with it, and American odds especially takes more time to understand.

I use to experience this but for some reason seems to have fixed itself and doesn't revert back... Maybe try using the desktop version to make these changes and all should be good 

Probably a reason why I also believe that the desktop experience is far much better than the mobile experience, you get less of these hurdles..

[mitchr4]

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I use to experience this but for some reason seems to have fixed itself and doesn't revert back... Maybe try using the desktop version to make these changes and all should be good 

Probably a reason why I also believe that the desktop experience is far much better than the mobile experience, you get less of these hurdles..

Actually, this issue also happens on the desktop version, it's just not as inconvenient as on mobile. I frequently use PC as well and the odds format sometimes changes and doesn't save automatically after logging out and back in. I think the problem is with the sportsbook provider itself, because other platforms that use the same provider as Betpanda have the same issue with the odds format changing unexpectedly.

[Shishir99]

Exactly. I have used probably a hundred online casino. It is the first time I see a casino keeping the client seed as is, and changing the server seed.

Their system don't do continuous manipulation. Those gets caught. This one is similar n some ways to 999dice which was also an anonymous casino, server calculates the result real time before serving up the server seed in autobet, and under certain conditions like higher bet amount compared to net deposits, they skip that server seed and generate another. Yes, I cannot prove it, but this is how it is designed.

As I said, it is possible for the server to generate thousands of seeds before, and if it changes every bet, it can give you the same result again and again if it is designed like that. Some people think that a crash game cannot land at 1.0x more than 3 times in a row; the chance is very low. But with the mentioned design, it is possible for the crash game to crash a hundred times in a row at 1.0x multiplier. The dangerous side is that you can still verify the bet with the server seed, client seed, and nonce.

To be very clear, I am not saying that Betpanda is manipulating the results. I am just saying what is possible with the current design. So, It would be better for Betpanda to change this system to make it more fair and transparent for everyone.

[slaman29]

Anyway lost both my slips last night, and both thanks to my team (Barca) lol who although didn't lose, but didn't win. Was fun tho

I got your PM and it is indeed tough to win all three legs of a parlay bet. But there is a way to maximize your winning chances in these contests. First of all, you should wait for the completion of your bets before posting them in the parlay contest thread, not because you cannot edit but because even if they loose you can submit them as valid entry in 'Predict the Minute of 1st Goal ' contest. You posted unresolved bets which made them ineligible for the other contest. You basically lost two free entries.
BTW, both contests are live for this week too and anyone thinking of participating should not wait for the last moment as you will have less time to pick a well thought out parlay which can make a big difference.
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You can submit three entries in each of the contests.

Thanks very much for that explanation, bro. I wasn't thinking much when I sent those, I'm definitely going to give them a better try this time. Can't say I'm very good at this multibetting, I keep putting in teams that are close to my heart rather than teams I know will win lol

Awesome contests btw, gonna keep checking when I remember.

La Liga don't let me down

[BitMaxz]

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I use to experience this but for some reason seems to have fixed itself and doesn't revert back... Maybe try using the desktop version to make these changes and all should be good  

Probably a reason why I also believe that the desktop experience is far much better than the mobile experience, you get less of these hurdles..

It actually won't fix his issue switching from mobile to desktop won't fix anything since it's a website not an app where the issue is related to the app itself.

The odds format if you having some issue or if you see some bugs email or use the support to contact them related to that issue.
Or if you have some request email them they might grant your request.

[stadus]

As I said, it is possible for the server to generate thousands of seeds before, and if it changes every bet, it can give you the same result again and again if it is designed like that. Some people think that a crash game cannot land at 1.0x more than 3 times in a row; the chance is very low. But with the mentioned design, it is possible for the crash game to crash a hundred times in a row at 1.0x multiplier. The dangerous side is that you can still verify the bet with the server seed, client seed, and nonce.

To be very clear, I am not saying that Betpanda is manipulating the results. I am just saying what is possible with the current design. So, It would be better for Betpanda to change this system to make it more fair and transparent for everyone.

I think the best person to answer this is the rep of Betpanda as this is very technical, and they know how the system works since they are the ones who created it. I’m not really into this kind of games but one thing I would say is that Betpanda is a huge casino, so logically they would not do something that would destroy their reputation.

So let’s hope they respond here to shed light on this for those who have doubts.

[Betwrong]

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~ If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me

No man, I don't need no evidence. I play on Betpanda and find it amazing. It's you who's accusing Betpanda in some kind of manipulation, and it's you who should provide a clear evidence of that if you want to be believed. Imagine someone saying "He's a thief!" and to those who disagree and require evidence he goes: "If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me". Man, that's ... That's unimaginable.

[Shishir99]

I think the best person to answer this is the rep of Betpanda as this is very technical, and they know how the system works since they are the ones who created it. I’m not really into this kind of games but one thing I would say is that Betpanda is a huge casino, so logically they would not do something that would destroy their reputation.

So let’s hope they respond here to shed light on this for those who have doubts.

Yeah, I know they are a huge casino, and they have invested a lot in marketing, and I cannot think of how much they have spent on their product. I also want to believe that Betpanda does not have any interest to manipulating the bet results of the players. However, the way it works right now, is possible to manipulate the bet result. At least how that guy presented it here. I played on Betpanda many times and am still in profit there. I never felt that my bets were manipulated. However, I also did not check how it works there. I did not felt I should check how it works.

[doggywin]

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~ If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me

No man, I don't need no evidence. I play on Betpanda and find it amazing. It's you who's accusing Betpanda in some kind of manipulation, and it's you who should provide a clear evidence of that if you want to be believed. Imagine someone saying "He's a thief!" and to those who disagree and require evidence he goes: "If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me". Man, that's ... That's unimaginable.

Even if I provide some evidence I recorded, you won't understand a thing, and it is in your monetary interest to blabber for the casino that pays you every week.

If you have more than 2 brain cells, you will have done DYOR on what provably fair is. Betpanda original games is not provably fair.

If you want absolute evidence go fetch Betpanda's server

"No man, I don't need no evidence."

Betpanda is not going to give an explanation. Only the idiots in this forum think Betpanda is trustable. Do you think it is a coincidence Betpanda does not have a player chat?

[pusaka]

As I said, it is possible for the server to generate thousands of seeds before, and if it changes every bet, it can give you the same result again and again if it is designed like that. Some people think that a crash game cannot land at 1.0x more than 3 times in a row; the chance is very low. But with the mentioned design, it is possible for the crash game to crash a hundred times in a row at 1.0x multiplier. The dangerous side is that you can still verify the bet with the server seed, client seed, and nonce.

To be very clear, I am not saying that Betpanda is manipulating the results. I am just saying what is possible with the current design. So, It would be better for Betpanda to change this system to make it more fair and transparent for everyone.

I think the best person to answer this is the rep of Betpanda as this is very technical, and they know how the system works since they are the ones who created it. I’m not really into this kind of games but one thing I would say is that Betpanda is a huge casino, so logically they would not do something that would destroy their reputation.

So let’s hope they respond here to shed light on this for those who have doubts.

This is bound to spark wild speculation, and of course, Betpanda’s presence to address these questions will at least prevent the speculation from getting out of hand.

I myself don’t really understand the system or the technical aspects, because I just play and try to enjoy the game. I personally have no issues when playing because, in my opinion, it all depends on my luck.

However, I also really appreciate this topic, as it helps me understand the game system better.

[Shishir99]

If you have more than 2 brain cells, you will have done DYOR on what provably fair is. Betpanda original games is not provably fair.

If you want absolute evidence go fetch Betpanda's server

"No man, I don't need no evidence."

Betpanda is not going to give an explanation. Only the idiots in this forum think Betpanda is trustable. Do you think it is a coincidence Betpanda does not have a player chat?

Well, he is sharing his point of view man, while you and I shared our point of view. While you conducted some technical investigations, he didn't. He is a player who played there and didn't feel that the game could be manipulated. However, I myself am a Betpanda player, and I am in their signature campaign as well. I understand the point you raised, and I believe you have a reason to talk about it. As I said, there is no evidence that they are manipulating the result, but the way it works now makes it possible to do so. So, let's not accuse them of manipulating the result while we cannot actually prove it. I would ask Betpanda to make it standard instead.

[Slow death]

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~ If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me

No man, I don't need no evidence. I play on Betpanda and find it amazing. It's you who's accusing Betpanda in some kind of manipulation, and it's you who should provide a clear evidence of that if you want to be believed. Imagine someone saying "He's a thief!" and to those who disagree and require evidence he goes: "If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me". Man, that's ... That's unimaginable.

Even if I provide some evidence I recorded, you won't understand a thing, and it is in your monetary interest to blabber for the casino that pays you every week.

If you have more than 2 brain cells, you will have done DYOR on what provably fair is. Betpanda original games is not provably fair.

If you want absolute evidence go fetch Betpanda's server

"No man, I don't need no evidence."

Betpanda is not going to give an explanation. Only the idiots in this forum think Betpanda is trustable. Do you think it is a coincidence Betpanda does not have a player chat?

Consider, for example, the following scenario: every day you wake up and go to work, you drive your car and always take the same road along with hundreds of other people who live in your city. Then one day your neighbor shows up and says that aliens have been appearing on that road at night. What would your first reaction be? Probably shock, surprise, but even so you would ask for proof, something like photos and videos.

Even if this neighbor of yours has been your neighbor for over 10 years, has never lied, has never told jokes, has always been a very serious person, proof would still be necessary for you and everyone in the city to believe him and take further action. This doesn't mean that people think the neighbor is a liar, but rather that people need proof when judging something.

[doggywin]

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~ If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me

No man, I don't need no evidence. I play on Betpanda and find it amazing. It's you who's accusing Betpanda in some kind of manipulation, and it's you who should provide a clear evidence of that if you want to be believed. Imagine someone saying "He's a thief!" and to those who disagree and require evidence he goes: "If you need evidence better find it yourself than demand one from me". Man, that's ... That's unimaginable.

Even if I provide some evidence I recorded, you won't understand a thing, and it is in your monetary interest to blabber for the casino that pays you every week.

If you have more than 2 brain cells, you will have done DYOR on what provably fair is. Betpanda original games is not provably fair.

If you want absolute evidence go fetch Betpanda's server

"No man, I don't need no evidence."

Betpanda is not going to give an explanation. Only the idiots in this forum think Betpanda is trustable. Do you think it is a coincidence Betpanda does not have a player chat?

Consider, for example, the following scenario: every day you wake up and go to work, you drive your car and always take the same road along with hundreds of other people who live in your city. Then one day your neighbor shows up and says that aliens have been appearing on that road at night. What would your first reaction be? Probably shock, surprise, but even so you would ask for proof, something like photos and videos.

Even if this neighbor of yours has been your neighbor for over 10 years, has never lied, has never told jokes, has always been a very serious person, proof would still be necessary for you and everyone in the city to believe him and take further action. This doesn't mean that people think the neighbor is a liar, but rather that people need proof when judging something.

Your example is very bad. My forum standing is jr. member with barely any trust.

You can break my claim into two parts

First, Betpanda says their original games are provably fair, but their autobet system is not provably fair.  Individual rolls can be provably fair - the player can technically verify every roll despite its practically difficulty. In other casinos you can independently verify millions of rolls in a second.
This is fraud, but Betpanda can say it is just negligence how they "accidentally" turned a nonce increment design into this one. There is live evidence for anybody to see. Make just 2 bets on autobet and check if you had the server hash of the second bet you need to verify the second bet.
If fairness cannot be verified, it is not provably fair. This is basics of online gambling.

Second, Betpanda is manipulating rolls. For this undisputable evidence is in the server. I have at best various anomalies that point to manipulation, and all conditions required to do it including anonymity of the operators.
Only this is cannot be proven. Shishir99 is right in that, I don't have undisputable evidence.

[OcTradism]

First, Betpanda says their original games are provably fair, but their autobet system is not provably fair.  Individual rolls can be provably fair - the player can technically verify every roll despite its practically difficulty. In other casinos you can independently verify millions of rolls in a second.
This is fraud, but Betpanda can say it is just negligence how they "accidentally" turned a nonce increment design into this one. There is live evidence for anybody to see. Make just 2 bets on autobet and check if you had the server hash of the second bet you need to verify the second bet.
If fairness cannot be verified, it is not provably fair. This is basics of online gambling.

You must provide solid evidence from your bets and provably fair verifier to prove that Betpand's original games are not actually provably fair.

According to BTCGOSU site and its review, I don't see they mention about suspicious or inaccurate information about provably fairness of games at Betpanda but of course their review does not have specific details about original games there.

https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casinos/betpanda-casino/

You can try to contact them for further review
https://www.btcgosu.com/contact-us/
⭐ BTCGOSU ⭐ THE ULTIMATE BITCOIN CASINO GUIDE 🏆
You can contact efialtis too.

I see Betpanda is a big and successful casino so it's less likely they build up and operate games not probably fair but if you want, please go ahead and prove this.

[doggywin]

First, Betpanda says their original games are provably fair, but their autobet system is not provably fair.  Individual rolls can be provably fair - the player can technically verify every roll despite its practically difficulty. In other casinos you can independently verify millions of rolls in a second.
This is fraud, but Betpanda can say it is just negligence how they "accidentally" turned a nonce increment design into this one. There is live evidence for anybody to see. Make just 2 bets on autobet and check if you had the server hash of the second bet you need to verify the second bet.
If fairness cannot be verified, it is not provably fair. This is basics of online gambling.

You must provide solid evidence from your bets and provably fair verifier to prove that Betpand's original games are not actually provably fair.

According to BTCGOSU site and its review, I don't see they mention about suspicious or inaccurate information about provably fairness of games at Betpanda but of course their review does not have specific details about original games there.

https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casinos/betpanda-casino/

You can try to contact them for further review
https://www.btcgosu.com/contact-us/
⭐ BTCGOSU ⭐ THE ULTIMATE BITCOIN CASINO GUIDE 🏆
You can contact efialtis too.

I see Betpanda is a big and successful casino so it's less likely they build up and operate games not probably fair but if you want, please go ahead and prove this.

Lol I can't really tell if you are a shill or just dumb

[Bryan jessy]

As I said, it is possible for the server to generate thousands of seeds before, and if it changes every bet, it can give you the same result again and again if it is designed like that. Some people think that a crash game cannot land at 1.0x more than 3 times in a row; the chance is very low. But with the mentioned design, it is possible for the crash game to crash a hundred times in a row at 1.0x multiplier. The dangerous side is that you can still verify the bet with the server seed, client seed, and nonce.

To be very clear, I am not saying that Betpanda is manipulating the results. I am just saying what is possible with the current design. So, It would be better for Betpanda to change this system to make it more fair and transparent for everyone.

I think the best person to answer this is the rep of Betpanda as this is very technical, and they know how the system works since they are the ones who created it. I’m not really into this kind of games but one thing I would say is that Betpanda is a huge casino, so logically they would not do something that would destroy their reputation.

So let’s hope they respond here to shed light on this for those who have doubts.

My thought as well, at some point we just need to take time and observe or study somethings before being judgemental. Merely looking at this, betpanda is a big casino and it has come a very long way working really hard to make the games and the system enjoyable and effortlessly for operators, so it will be difficult to believe that they will do something uncalled for just to ruin the trust and reputation they have built so far, just imagine that because it is almost impossible or not possible at all. Every games has a vision which is either to be good, advance more or become one of the best to players, as to get more people coming to game with them. No reasonable individual will put somuch effort on building something amazing with a plan of ruin it at the end.

[impulse709]

As I said, it is possible for the server to generate thousands of seeds before, and if it changes every bet, it can give you the same result again and again if it is designed like that. Some people think that a crash game cannot land at 1.0x more than 3 times in a row; the chance is very low. But with the mentioned design, it is possible for the crash game to crash a hundred times in a row at 1.0x multiplier. The dangerous side is that you can still verify the bet with the server seed, client seed, and nonce.

To be very clear, I am not saying that Betpanda is manipulating the results. I am just saying what is possible with the current design. So, It would be better for Betpanda to change this system to make it more fair and transparent for everyone.

I think the best person to answer this is the rep of Betpanda as this is very technical, and they know how the system works since they are the ones who created it. I’m not really into this kind of games but one thing I would say is that Betpanda is a huge casino, so logically they would not do something that would destroy their reputation.

So let’s hope they respond here to shed light on this for those who have doubts.

My thought as well, at some point we just need to take time and observe or study somethings before being judgemental. Merely looking at this, betpanda is a big casino and it has come a very long way working really hard to make the games and the system enjoyable and effortlessly for operators, so it will be difficult to believe that they will do something uncalled for just to ruin the trust and reputation they have built so far, just imagine that because it is almost impossible or not possible at all. Every games has a vision which is either to be good, advance more or become one of the best to players, as to get more people coming to game with them. No reasonable individual will put somuch effort on building something amazing with a plan of ruin it at the end.

I realize that there is a concern raised over how the system can theoretically be designed, but at the same time we also have to be aware of how the large casinos run. One platform such as Betpanda has taken long to establish its reputation and draw in the players and they would not want to jeopardize that loyalty by manipulating. The crypto gambling business places very high value to reputation and once lost the gamblers are not likely to regain trust in a casino. Nevertheless, it is possible to talk about the technical issue of seeds and crash consequences. It is most appropriate that the Betpanda team clarifies the provably fair system in detail to clear doubts.

[doggywin]

As I said, it is possible for the server to generate thousands of seeds before, and if it changes every bet, it can give you the same result again and again if it is designed like that. Some people think that a crash game cannot land at 1.0x more than 3 times in a row; the chance is very low. But with the mentioned design, it is possible for the crash game to crash a hundred times in a row at 1.0x multiplier. The dangerous side is that you can still verify the bet with the server seed, client seed, and nonce.

To be very clear, I am not saying that Betpanda is manipulating the results. I am just saying what is possible with the current design. So, It would be better for Betpanda to change this system to make it more fair and transparent for everyone.

I think the best person to answer this is the rep of Betpanda as this is very technical, and they know how the system works since they are the ones who created it. I’m not really into this kind of games but one thing I would say is that Betpanda is a huge casino, so logically they would not do something that would destroy their reputation.

So let’s hope they respond here to shed light on this for those who have doubts.

My thought as well, at some point we just need to take time and observe or study somethings before being judgemental. Merely looking at this, betpanda is a big casino and it has come a very long way working really hard to make the games and the system enjoyable and effortlessly for operators, so it will be difficult to believe that they will do something uncalled for just to ruin the trust and reputation they have built so far, just imagine that because it is almost impossible or not possible at all. Every games has a vision which is either to be good, advance more or become one of the best to players, as to get more people coming to game with them. No reasonable individual will put somuch effort on building something amazing with a plan of ruin it at the end.

I realize that there is a concern raised over how the system can theoretically be designed, but at the same time we also have to be aware of how the large casinos run. One platform such as Betpanda has taken long to establish its reputation and draw in the players and they would not want to jeopardize that loyalty by manipulating. The crypto gambling business places very high value to reputation and once lost the gamblers are not likely to regain trust in a casino. Nevertheless, it is possible to talk about the technical issue of seeds and crash consequences. It is most appropriate that the Betpanda team clarifies the provably fair system in detail to clear doubts.

I'm sorry? How are they jeopardizing the reputation?

They have managed to ignore the concerns of even their highrolling players for more than 1 year. Their first approach is to ignore.

Even if it gets attention, all they need to say is claim it was a mistake.

[stadus]

I realize that there is a concern raised over how the system can theoretically be designed, but at the same time we also have to be aware of how the large casinos run. One platform such as Betpanda has taken long to establish its reputation and draw in the players and they would not want to jeopardize that loyalty by manipulating. The crypto gambling business places very high value to reputation and once lost the gamblers are not likely to regain trust in a casino. Nevertheless, it is possible to talk about the technical issue of seeds and crash consequences. It is most appropriate that the Betpanda team clarifies the provably fair system in detail to clear doubts.

You really did see the point, its normal to post observations, even if it ends up accusing the casino of cheating since no one can really stop someone from saying that, whatever the intention may be. but for those of us who already know the casino well, we also have our own judgement. When it comes to these technical matters, it’s better to share only when we actually understand what we’re talking about, not just based on speculation that could easily mislead people reading the thread.

So for me the logic is pretty simple, no casino that has already reached that level would just ruin its own reputation like that.