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August 25, 2017, 03:15:36 PM
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Hi,

Thank you for your enquiry.
We would require your source code (preferably on Github) and a square logo to add your coin to Coinexchange.io
There is a 1 BTC fee for new coin additions.
Due to a backlog new coins are added within 14 days of payment.
We also require the link to a block explorer for your currency.
If you are interested and would like to proceed please let us know and we will send you a payment address.
Alternately let us know if you have any questions prior to making a decision.
Sincerely,
CoinExchange.io Support Team

https://www.coinexchange.io/



If we want to apply for this exchange we would need this 1 BTC, if you all agree we can collect this 1 BTC. Im sure if we get on exchange with payment, delisting will not be all the time on schedule.

Donate to this BTC address if you want: 1Hph5zaFngcfNo4XV9SHYx8KKKKypx1AKt (my part will be 0.05 BTC)
Or some of the devs can take the collecting part. I know its small exchange but this where we could get some ground.
Suggestions welcome.




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There is a disturbing recurring pattern which makes me wonder if there really is some conspiracy at work here to keep Boolberry down.

There's always been some strange stuff on the boolberry network and around its infrastructure.

The main thing for us is the database thing though, it is really a prerequisite honestly, and can kick start the discussions. We've been at this for over a year and fortunately since crypto changes at a breakneck speed, there are more exchanges now. Monero integration is happening on more exchanges, which means basic cryptonote integration.

These guys just can't have 1 blockchain taking so much RAM. They are running most of these things on 256mb docker containers, and boolberry needs a 6 gb bare metal server.

I find it hard to believe that an exchange doing 70,000BTC ($330M) in volume can't afford server costs, especially with the consistent volume Boolberry has received. In business you look at profits and losses. If a product or service is making thousands of dollars per month in profits and server costs don't exceed the operating costs then there is no loss. Of course there are other fixed and variable operating costs but that load is spread across the multitude of pairings they offer.

Business fundamentals aside, my point is that I followed their guidelines, reached out to them and they ignored me. After they announced delisting I reached out to them again and was ignored. On top of that they didn't attempt to reach out anyone in this community. As far as I know, your assumptions of why they are delisting Boolberry are based solely on your own conclusions.. not based on any evidence provided by Bittrex. At this point, it's all conjecture.. There is no transparency with either Bittrex or Poloniex when it comes to delisting. While I don't believe we need anymore government involvement in cryptocurrency - if they are going to impose verification standards on cryptotraders then maybe the SEC needs to enforce some type of delisting guidelines on these US-based exchanges. The actions and lack of transparency from Bittrex and Poloniex were directly responsible for the loss of millions of dollars to Boolbery investors and this isn't an isolated incident. If you look at the charts you can see a direct correlation between de-listing and the effect it has on the market cap. There is no getting around that the loss in market cap was affected by the de-listing announcement.
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Hi,

Thank you for your enquiry.
We would require your source code (preferably on Github) and a square logo to add your coin to Coinexchange.io
There is a 1 BTC fee for new coin additions.
Due to a backlog new coins are added within 14 days of payment.
We also require the link to a block explorer for your currency.
If you are interested and would like to proceed please let us know and we will send you a payment address.
Alternately let us know if you have any questions prior to making a decision.
Sincerely,
CoinExchange.io Support Team

https://www.coinexchange.io/



If we want to apply for this exchange we would need this 1 BTC, if you all agree we can collect this 1 BTC. Im sure if we get on exchange with payment, delisting will not be all the time on schedule.

Donate to this BTC address if you want: 1Hph5zaFngcfNo4XV9SHYx8KKKKypx1AKt (my part will be 0.05 BTC)
Or some of the devs can take the collecting part. I know its small exchange but this where we could get some ground.
Suggestions welcome.






If the community is going to pay to get on an exchange, it should be one with considerable volume and security standards. This is the first time I've heard of this exchange, so my gut tells me 1BTC is a lot of money to give to a small exchange. But don't let my advice stop you or anyone here from getting it listed there. It's a decentralized project so anyone can do as they please.
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August 25, 2017, 05:58:03 PM
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1 BTC is over 4k USD now. That's to get listed by a 1 year old low volume exchange operated by unknown people. It can disappear any moment with all deposits. Anyway, if you have 1 BTC to spend, better give it to Bittrex so they can rent a dedicated server for BBR.
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There is a disturbing recurring pattern which makes me wonder if there really is some conspiracy at work here to keep Boolberry down.

There's always been some strange stuff on the boolberry network and around its infrastructure.

The main thing for us is the database thing though, it is really a prerequisite honestly, and can kick start the discussions. We've been at this for over a year and fortunately since crypto changes at a breakneck speed, there are more exchanges now. Monero integration is happening on more exchanges, which means basic cryptonote integration.

These guys just can't have 1 blockchain taking so much RAM. They are running most of these things on 256mb docker containers, and boolberry needs a 6 gb bare metal server.

I find it hard to believe that an exchange doing 70,000BTC ($330M) in volume can't afford server costs, especially with the consistent volume Boolberry has received. In business you look at profits and losses. If a product or service is making thousands of dollars per month in profits and server costs don't exceed the operating costs then there is no loss. Of course there are other fixed and variable operating costs but that load is spread across the multitude of pairings they offer.

Business fundamentals aside, my point is that I followed their guidelines, reached out to them and they ignored me. After they announced delisting I reached out to them again and was ignored. On top of that they didn't attempt to reach out anyone in this community. As far as I know, your assumptions of why they are delisting Boolberry are based solely on your own conclusions.. not based on any evidence provided by Bittrex. At this point, it's all conjecture.. There is no transparency with either Bittrex or Poloniex when it comes to delisting. While I don't believe we need anymore government involvement in cryptocurrency - if they are going to impose verification standards on cryptotraders then maybe the SEC needs to enforce some type of delisting guidelines on these US-based exchanges. The actions and lack of transparency from Bittrex and Poloniex were directly responsible for the loss of millions of dollars to Boolbery investors and this isn't an isolated incident. If you look at the charts you can see a direct correlation between de-listing and the effect it has on the market cap. There is no getting around that the loss in market cap was affected by the de-listing announcement.

Some reasons came along, right after Polniex delisted BBR, the DDOS attack came trying to destroy blockchain, why on earth would someone destroy such a small cap coin already in the dump faze when was delisted. And why on Bittrex someone is buying all the coins if its no worth. There was a buy offer for more than 10 BTC, he is a "beliber" or it could be just some "government" buying all the token, maybe dumping them later to crack the price. It is strange though. Would anyone buy BBR if it has no exchange for lets say 18 cents, i dont think so, but sure not for 45.000 dollars. So lets make to another exchange, this no one known exchange offer was just one proposal (did find it when looking where to buy HODL coin). Did try also on HITBTC and others. Cheers
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August 25, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
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Some reasons came along, right after Polniex delisted BBR, the DDOS attack came trying to destroy blockchain, why on earth would someone destroy such a small cap coin already in the dump faze when was delisted. And why on Bittrex someone is buying all the coins if its no worth.

Exactly

Who would be using this network if it was worthless? Even in the almost two years with no progress on the coin, one known pool had 75% of the hashrate, but then there was an unknown miner and additional (or the same) entity constantly attacking the other pool

This has been going on for a long time.

so lets play a game, you could use Boolberry as a private payment rail Over The Counter. Someone is. I try to ignore them.

                                     
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August 26, 2017, 05:02:23 AM
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There is a disturbing recurring pattern which makes me wonder if there really is some conspiracy at work here to keep Boolberry down.

There's always been some strange stuff on the boolberry network and around its infrastructure.

The main thing for us is the database thing though, it is really a prerequisite honestly, and can kick start the discussions. We've been at this for over a year and fortunately since crypto changes at a breakneck speed, there are more exchanges now. Monero integration is happening on more exchanges, which means basic cryptonote integration.

These guys just can't have 1 blockchain taking so much RAM. They are running most of these things on 256mb docker containers, and boolberry needs a 6 gb bare metal server.

I find it hard to believe that an exchange doing 70,000BTC ($330M) in volume can't afford server costs, especially with the consistent volume Boolberry has received. In business you look at profits and losses. If a product or service is making thousands of dollars per month in profits and server costs don't exceed the operating costs then there is no loss. Of course there are other fixed and variable operating costs but that load is spread across the multitude of pairings they offer.

Business fundamentals aside, my point is that I followed their guidelines, reached out to them and they ignored me. After they announced delisting I reached out to them again and was ignored. On top of that they didn't attempt to reach out anyone in this community. As far as I know, your assumptions of why they are delisting Boolberry are based solely on your own conclusions.. not based on any evidence provided by Bittrex. At this point, it's all conjecture.. There is no transparency with either Bittrex or Poloniex when it comes to delisting. While I don't believe we need anymore government involvement in cryptocurrency - if they are going to impose verification standards on cryptotraders then maybe the SEC needs to enforce some type of delisting guidelines on these US-based exchanges. The actions and lack of transparency from Bittrex and Poloniex were directly responsible for the loss of millions of dollars to Boolbery investors and this isn't an isolated incident. If you look at the charts you can see a direct correlation between de-listing and the effect it has on the market cap. There is no getting around that the loss in market cap was affected by the de-listing announcement.

Some reasons came along, right after Polniex delisted BBR, the DDOS attack came trying to destroy blockchain, why on earth would someone destroy such a small cap coin already in the dump faze when was delisted. And why on Bittrex someone is buying all the coins if its no worth. There was a buy offer for more than 10 BTC, he is a "beliber" or it could be just some "government" buying all the token, maybe dumping them later to crack the price. It is strange though. Would anyone buy BBR if it has no exchange for lets say 18 cents, i dont think so, but sure not for 45.000 dollars. So lets make to another exchange, this no one known exchange offer was just one proposal (did find it when looking where to buy HODL coin). Did try also on HITBTC and others. Cheers

Thanks for all your efforts Molenta!
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August 27, 2017, 07:36:05 AM
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min volume last days is about 100k, quite active community, so what the hack is Trex delisting it? I far as I know similar situation was with XST but appearently it is still there and happy trading. So let's write on their support, slack, twitter or whatever to leave XBB on Trex


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August 27, 2017, 04:03:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm buying.

Monero's mempool is full in periods of newfound interest, and no real scaling solution is available on any cryptonote roadmap just yet. Opaque transactions can flow into other cryptonote coins. Just like when litecoin was being used while bitcoin's transaction backlog grew.

Another year, another bullish case, and Monero is even further ahead in valuation showing the potential growth of the cryptonote space.

There are many people that don't want to touch bytecoin, and it is still amateur hour in XDN with very opaque development.

Boolberry? Yeah we need to get organized. We also don't need a 2 million valuation, its still the database issue.

Everything from my year-old boolberry roadmap is still relevant, but other people (clintar2) are working on the database issue first and I'm not involved. Boolberry has largely missed the growth in altcoins, but the community is able to stay involved and find liquidity, and we can do it again.

The story is here, and these current prices are from delisting news only. HitBTC and other exchanges are going to happen, we'll make our own exchange if we have to, even IOTA has their own exchange - necessary for US customers after bitfinex kicks them out - and they have a massive valuation. Boolberry hasn't traded at this few satoshis for a long time.

I wonder how much 1% of all Boolberry would cost these days.

                                     
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August 28, 2017, 03:26:40 AM
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what combined pressure can we put on bittrex to keep bbr?

can we ask them to at least relist us for 100% certain if we get the database going?

If they issue a public statement to that effect that would be very useful.

also polo has held my bbr hostage for weeks and weeks I have withdrawals ordered and they never release them.

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what combined pressure can we put on bittrex to keep bbr?

can we ask them to at least relist us for 100% certain if we get the database going?

If they issue a public statement to that effect that would be very useful.

also polo has held my bbr hostage for weeks and weeks I have withdrawals ordered and they never release them.


I reached out to Bittrex in July with no response. I reached out to them after the delisting notice and they kicked me out of the support channel. They responded by posting their guidelines here on a sockpuppet account. It's clear they don't have any intention of reversing the delist. There's no transparency with either them or Poloniex. Boolberry and Bytecoin were just delisted from Cryptopia but at least they were transparent about delisting and gave reasoning.. something Bittrex can learn from otherwise they will be losing a lot of customers. In the past, Bittrex staff were friendly and supportive of cryptocurrency communities. As soon as the volume from Poloniex started migrating over there they changed their attitudes. I believe its has gone to their heads. I also regret promoting them to my fellow traders over the years. But in the end, nothing lasts forever and exchanges come and go like the wind. They'll be no different than Mt Gox, Mintpal or Poloniex.

Besides Bittrex is a broken exchange anyways. Their charts don't work and the design looks like its from 2001. If they don't care enough to keep their site modern, their charts working or their order depths functional - how can anyone anyone expect them to care about other projects and their communities?

I also think they're a bit shady on the same lines as Poloniex. I have a strong feeling they were responsible for the flash crash that happened a week before the delisting announcement. The coin was on an upward trend and someone dumped it down to 1980 Satoshi. I was trying to figure out who would dump all the way down with no negative news about the project then it all started to make sense to me when the delisting was announced. If I remember correctly the same flash crash happened about a week before Poloniex announced they were delisting Boolberry.

As stated earlier, while I don't believe we need anymore government involvement in cryptocurrency, the actions of these U.S. exchanges really leave investors with no other recourse but to file formal complaints against them. You aren't the only one with funds stuck on Poloniex. There are others in this community that have the same problem. Between knowingly taking advantage of buy support to dump their holdings before delisting announcement, crashing markets with unwarranted delisting and freezing withdrawals for months, I bet the SEC would have a field day with these clowns.

There should be a standard enforced:

A) Reach out to a community publicly to voice their concerns
B) Give said community time to resolve any issues
C) If the community doesn't resolve said issues in allotted timeframe the coin is delisted

Instead, we have a bunch of insiders crashing markets and profiting off the ignorance of investors. These guys don't know anything about running a business. They might be great technical guys and are able to provide security for their platform but when it comes to customer support and retention these guys are literally amateurs.
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August 28, 2017, 05:11:50 AM
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I thought it was interesting that they are delisting BBR, but not delisting AEON, even though AEON wallet has been in maintenance mode for going on three months now and from intermittent checking it seemed like volume wasn't that dissimilar.

Full disclosure: I don't hold any boolberry anymore, and do have some aeons.
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I thought it was interesting that they are delisting BBR, but not delisting AEON, even though AEON wallet has been in maintenance mode for going on three months now and from intermittent checking it seemed like volume wasn't that dissimilar.

Full disclosure: I don't hold any boolberry anymore, and do have some aeons.

Maybe they are waiting for their AEON sell orders to trigger. It seems that right when BBR hit 20k Satoshi it triggered the delisting announcement and immediately reversed the uptrend into a downtrend.

BTW: It's ok, if you're not holding boolberry anymore. We're all crypto enthusiasts and we have a vested interest in the general well being of the space.
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August 28, 2017, 08:35:03 AM
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I thought it was interesting that they are delisting BBR, but not delisting AEON, even though AEON wallet has been in maintenance mode for going on three months now and from intermittent checking it seemed like volume wasn't that dissimilar.
Good point, especially since Aeon has exactly the same database issue as BBR (and they are also working on a LMDB solution).

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August 28, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
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Some good points there b4h4mu7!

I vote for SEC interferance about the taking advantage on trades when uptrending and finishing it with delisting with no warning. Playing stupid. I wrote to the them 1 week ago, more than 3 long messages and no answer. I think its time to take action against fraud. Playing gods on exchange information, destroying others. If delisting happens we need an answer.

Made a simple thread for Freewallet Boolberry android app, if interested take a vote for it (its free and i like the freewallet app, usefull to store a buck): https://freewallet.org/vote   

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August 28, 2017, 01:40:40 PM
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Some good points there b4h4mu7!

I vote for SEC interferance about the taking advantage on trades when uptrending and finishing it with delisting with no warning.

Why do you two think the SEC would be involved?

The SEC isn't a "trading police", they are a securities police. Boolberry isn't a security so even if they went after Bittrex for trading and manipulating some of the projects that are securities-like, they wouldn't even be able to launch a case about what happens in the Boolberry market.

Lets nip this strange misconception in the bud right now.

                                     
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August 28, 2017, 04:59:56 PM
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what combined pressure can we put on bittrex to keep bbr?

can we ask them to at least relist us for 100% certain if we get the database going?

If they issue a public statement to that effect that would be very useful.

also polo has held my bbr hostage for weeks and weeks I have withdrawals ordered and they never release them.


I reached out to Bittrex in July with no response. I reached out to them after the delisting notice and they kicked me out of the support channel. They responded by posting their guidelines here on a sockpuppet account. It's clear they don't have any intention of reversing the delist. There's no transparency with either them or Poloniex. Boolberry and Bytecoin were just delisted from Cryptopia but at least they were transparent about delisting and gave reasoning.. something Bittrex can learn from otherwise they will be losing a lot of customers. In the past, Bittrex staff were friendly and supportive of cryptocurrency communities. As soon as the volume from Poloniex started migrating over there they changed their attitudes. I believe its has gone to their heads. I also regret promoting them to my fellow traders over the years. But in the end, nothing lasts forever and exchanges come and go like the wind. They'll be no different than Mt Gox, Mintpal or Poloniex.

Besides Bittrex is a broken exchange anyways. Their charts don't work and the design looks like its from 2001. If they don't care enough to keep their site modern, their charts working or their order depths functional - how can anyone anyone expect them to care about other projects and their communities?

I also think they're a bit shady on the same lines as Poloniex. I have a strong feeling they were responsible for the flash crash that happened a week before the delisting announcement. The coin was on an upward trend and someone dumped it down to 1980 Satoshi. I was trying to figure out who would dump all the way down with no negative news about the project then it all started to make sense to me when the delisting was announced. If I remember correctly the same flash crash happened about a week before Poloniex announced they were delisting Boolberry.

As stated earlier, while I don't believe we need anymore government involvement in cryptocurrency, the actions of these U.S. exchanges really leave investors with no other recourse but to file formal complaints against them. You aren't the only one with funds stuck on Poloniex. There are others in this community that have the same problem. Between knowingly taking advantage of buy support to dump their holdings before delisting announcement, crashing markets with unwarranted delisting and freezing withdrawals for months, I bet the SEC would have a field day with these clowns.

There should be a standard enforced:

A) Reach out to a community publicly to voice their concerns
B) Give said community time to resolve any issues
C) If the community doesn't resolve said issues in allotted timeframe the coin is delisted

Instead, we have a bunch of insiders crashing markets and profiting off the ignorance of investors. These guys don't know anything about running a business. They might be great technical guys and are able to provide security for their platform but when it comes to customer support and retention these guys are literally amateurs.

I think that Boolberry's community should find new exchange trading. Ex. Livecoin.net etc.
Boolberry coin have good potential. I love Boolberry coin.
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August 28, 2017, 05:56:37 PM
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Some good points there b4h4mu7!

I vote for SEC interferance about the taking advantage on trades when uptrending and finishing it with delisting with no warning.

Why do you two think the SEC would be involved?

The SEC isn't a "trading police", they are a securities police. Boolberry isn't a security so even if they went after Bittrex for trading and manipulating some of the projects that are securities-like, they wouldn't even be able to launch a case about what happens in the Boolberry market.

Lets nip this strange misconception in the bud right now.

I know, little hate came out of me, because BREX playing "god" not answering at all and delisting at a time when BB made uptrend moves, not giving any guidelines, no help, no cooperation, ...
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August 28, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
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what combined pressure can we put on bittrex to keep bbr?

can we ask them to at least relist us for 100% certain if we get the database going?

If they issue a public statement to that effect that would be very useful.

also polo has held my bbr hostage for weeks and weeks I have withdrawals ordered and they never release them.


I reached out to Bittrex in July with no response. I reached out to them after the delisting notice and they kicked me out of the support channel. They responded by posting their guidelines here on a sockpuppet account. It's clear they don't have any intention of reversing the delist. There's no transparency with either them or Poloniex. Boolberry and Bytecoin were just delisted from Cryptopia but at least they were transparent about delisting and gave reasoning.. something Bittrex can learn from otherwise they will be losing a lot of customers. In the past, Bittrex staff were friendly and supportive of cryptocurrency communities. As soon as the volume from Poloniex started migrating over there they changed their attitudes. I believe its has gone to their heads. I also regret promoting them to my fellow traders over the years. But in the end, nothing lasts forever and exchanges come and go like the wind. They'll be no different than Mt Gox, Mintpal or Poloniex.

Besides Bittrex is a broken exchange anyways. Their charts don't work and the design looks like its from 2001. If they don't care enough to keep their site modern, their charts working or their order depths functional - how can anyone anyone expect them to care about other projects and their communities?

I also think they're a bit shady on the same lines as Poloniex. I have a strong feeling they were responsible for the flash crash that happened a week before the delisting announcement. The coin was on an upward trend and someone dumped it down to 1980 Satoshi. I was trying to figure out who would dump all the way down with no negative news about the project then it all started to make sense to me when the delisting was announced. If I remember correctly the same flash crash happened about a week before Poloniex announced they were delisting Boolberry.

As stated earlier, while I don't believe we need anymore government involvement in cryptocurrency, the actions of these U.S. exchanges really leave investors with no other recourse but to file formal complaints against them. You aren't the only one with funds stuck on Poloniex. There are others in this community that have the same problem. Between knowingly taking advantage of buy support to dump their holdings before delisting announcement, crashing markets with unwarranted delisting and freezing withdrawals for months, I bet the SEC would have a field day with these clowns.

There should be a standard enforced:

A) Reach out to a community publicly to voice their concerns
B) Give said community time to resolve any issues
C) If the community doesn't resolve said issues in allotted timeframe the coin is delisted

Instead, we have a bunch of insiders crashing markets and profiting off the ignorance of investors. These guys don't know anything about running a business. They might be great technical guys and are able to provide security for their platform but when it comes to customer support and retention these guys are literally amateurs.

sad news about bittrex... thought they were better than this.
A delisting reason is essential.
How can we really fix this issue if we dont know the issue?

Seems ill have a bunch off bbr stuck on polo and now the rest on trex since there is no other exchange to hold it on.

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August 29, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
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There is no real issue. It's inside trading.

I have a long "conversation" showing that they are lying and invoking false reasons, this before they threatened to ban me from slack (general) - they kicked me from customer support a day before.


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