[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[Hueristic]

Yeah this is just a thread where we all complain about monero not being higher price lmao

No that is the speculation thread!

This is for general info and to find out how to proceed when search engines fail you.

If you can't get an answer here you will always be directed to where you can get that answer.

[elrippos friend]

For some reason using my GUI wallet with all the blockchain synchronised to it
when I go to mine I get an error message, I click on both options for threads and wonder why this is happening
also What is the easiest way to mine Monero and support the network?

Wich error message do you get?
The easiest way is to setup a node that is mining --> https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/

even though wallet is synchronised the error message i get is "error mining" could not start mining"

Are you in the GUI or in the CLI?

GUI
also tried different combinations  #of CPU threads but nothing works

Which OS are you using? If you are on Windows i would suppose that your Antivirus application is stopping the mining process.
Can you also start the process in a CLI terminal in order to see the output you are getting.
Therefore it would be great if you can start 2 terminals
In the first terminal you start monerod
In the second you open the wallet with the mining command and a bit more verbose debugging output
Then we can help you, but without those parameters it is just guessing

[Hueristic]

Which OS are you using? If you are on Windows i would suppose that your Antivirus application is stopping the mining process.
Can you also start the process in a CLI terminal in order to see the output you are getting.
Therefore it would be great if you can start 2 terminals
In the first terminal you start monerod
In the second you open the wallet with the mining command and a bit more verbose debugging output
Then we can help you, but without those parameters it is just guessing

Thats why i directed him to the mining thread, this can take a while and if it is there then others can find it easier rather than having it buried in this thread for the future.

Good job lately helping the n00bs, I'm impressed.

[elrippos friend]

Which OS are you using? If you are on Windows i would suppose that your Antivirus application is stopping the mining process.
Can you also start the process in a CLI terminal in order to see the output you are getting.
Therefore it would be great if you can start 2 terminals
In the first terminal you start monerod
In the second you open the wallet with the mining command and a bit more verbose debugging output
Then we can help you, but without those parameters it is just guessing

Thats why i directed him to the mining thread, this can take a while and if it is there then others can find it easier rather than having it buried in this thread for the future.

Good job lately helping the n00bs, I'm impressed.

I am trying to help where i can
Which job do you mean?

[Hueristic]

I am trying to help where i can
Which job do you mean?

Good job is slang for "nice work, I approve".

[elrippos friend]

I am trying to help where i can
Which job do you mean?

Good job is slang for "nice work, I approve".

Aaahhh ok, thank you 

[menoiazei]

For some reason using my GUI wallet with all the blockchain synchronised to it
when I go to mine I get an error message, I click on both options for threads and wonder why this is happening
also What is the easiest way to mine Monero and support the network?

Wich error message do you get?
The easiest way is to setup a node that is mining --> https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/

even though wallet is synchronised the error message i get is "error mining" could not start mining"

Are you in the GUI or in the CLI?

GUI
also tried different combinations  #of CPU threads but nothing works

Which OS are you using? If you are on Windows i would suppose that your Antivirus application is stopping the mining process.
Can you also start the process in a CLI terminal in order to see the output you are getting.
Therefore it would be great if you can start 2 terminals
In the first terminal you start monerod
In the second you open the wallet with the mining command and a bit more verbose debugging output
Then we can help you, but without those parameters it is just guessing

Is an iMac with Catalina OS

thank you for helping

[bbc.reporter]

Monero botnet miners might like this article hehe. It might also be made to use the private Monero blockchain and the view key for the corresponding public key for untraceability from outsiders.

In America, uncensorable mining and unenforceable mining shutdowns might be the future of the cryptospace if Yellen’s crackdown begins.



When hackers corral infected computers into a botnet, they take special care to ensure they don’t lose control of the server that sends commands and updates to the compromised devices. The precautions are designed to thwart security defenders who routinely dismantle botnets by taking over the command-and-control server that administers them in a process known as sinkholing.

Recently, a botnet that researchers have been following for about two years began using a new way to prevent command-and-control server takedowns: by camouflaging one of its IP addresses in the bitcoin blockchain.

Source https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/crooks-use-the-bitcoin-blockchain-to-protect-their-botnets-from-takedown/

[xnbya]

What is the Monero development team’s stance on Asic resistance presently? Will it continue to hard fork to stop Asics?

I might have made a mistake in my support for embracing Asics for Aeon. It is only a small coin and it might not matter, however, giving up on mining with ordinary hardware might be a mistake.

The hard forks to change the POW have now stopped. Monero has been using RandomX for 15 months now with no sign of Asics.  Hopefully it stays that way.

[Hueristic]

Monero botnet miners might like this article hehe. It might also be made to use the private Monero blockchain and the view key for the corresponding public key for untraceability from outsiders.

In America, uncensorable mining and unenforceable mining shutdowns might be the future of the cryptospace if Yellen’s crackdown begins.



When hackers corral infected computers into a botnet, they take special care to ensure they don’t lose control of the server that sends commands and updates to the compromised devices. The precautions are designed to thwart security defenders who routinely dismantle botnets by taking over the command-and-control server that administers them in a process known as sinkholing.

Recently, a botnet that researchers have been following for about two years began using a new way to prevent command-and-control server takedowns: by camouflaging one of its IP addresses in the bitcoin blockchain.

Source https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/crooks-use-the-bitcoin-blockchain-to-protect-their-botnets-from-takedown/

Taking advantage of uncensorable immutability.

[bbc.reporter]

@Hueristic. In a fictional world where the president of the one world government, Janet Yellen has begun persecuting miners of the free people's currency, hidden bot mining is the only hope hehehe.

However, the Biden administration might begin to go after bitcoin miners in America. Janet Yellen's statements have not been very optimistic for the cryptospace.

[baro77]

Hi everybody!

While studying Zero to Monero: Second Edition https://www.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf I have created an infographic to strengthen my understanding. Hope it to be useful to someone else as well!

https://baro77.medium.com/e0abb8174757?source=friends_link&sk=86505f1916726e1ddb0b930c4700ebb5

(Sorry for medium link, but I have problem inserting only the image link)

[Hueristic]

Hi everybody!

While studying Zero to Monero: Second Edition https://www.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf I have created an infographic to strengthen my understanding. Hope it to be useful to someone else as well!

https://baro77.medium.com/e0abb8174757?source=friends_link&sk=86505f1916726e1ddb0b930c4700ebb5

(Sorry for medium link, but I have problem inserting only the image link)

Great!

Link to article is better as most of us won't open a linked pdf.

I would have clapped but then i would have to sign in and then they paywall nag me.

[Hueristic]

@Hueristic. In a fictional world where the president of the one world government, Janet Yellen has begun persecuting miners of the free people's currency, hidden bot mining is the only hope hehehe.

However, the Biden administration might begin to go after bitcoin miners in America. Janet Yellen's statements have not been very optimistic for the cryptospace.

Biden going after cryptography is a unsubstantiated Fud attack.

Trump was more anti bitcoin than any politician.



Janet Yellen is a tool of the establishment and just totes the .01%er's lines.

[elrippos friend]

@Hueristic. In a fictional world where the president of the one world government, Janet Yellen has begun persecuting miners of the free people's currency, hidden bot mining is the only hope hehehe.

However, the Biden administration might begin to go after bitcoin miners in America. Janet Yellen's statements have not been very optimistic for the cryptospace.

Biden going after cryptography is a unsubstantiated Fud attack.

Trump was more anti bitcoin than any politician.



Janet Yellen is a tool of the establishment and just totes the .01%er's lines.

Man, that sucker again....

[Hueristic]

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[cAPSLOCK]

LOL.  This may be the dumnest thing I have read this year.  Did someone get PAID to do this?

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8685178

"Traceable Monero: Anonymous Cryptocurrency with Enhanced Accountability"

[bitebits]

LOL.  This may be the dumnest thing I have read this year.  Did someone get PAID to do this?

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8685178

"Traceable Monero: Anonymous Cryptocurrency with Enhanced Accountability"

For those new here. Yes Monero is indeed fully private, but already optionally transparent:
(need a pull request to change the readability a bit)

View Key - The Basics

One of two sets of private and public cryptographic keys that each account has, with the private view key required to view all transactions related to the account.

Monero features an opaque blockchain (with an explicit allowance system called the view key), in sharp contrast with transparent blockchains used by any other cryptocurrency not based on CryptoNote. Thus, Monero is said to be "private, optionally transparent".

Every Monero address has a private viewkey which can be shared. By sharing a viewkey, a person is allowing access to view every incoming transaction for that address. However, outgoing transactions cannot be reliably viewed as of June 2017. Therefore, the balance of a Monero address as shown via a viewkey should not be relied upon.

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/viewkey.html

[user187fr]

hi !  

i am new to monero, but i have some experience with bitcoin core and bitcoin cash.

i have found a list of app wallets on the official website ( getmonero.org/downloads/ ), ok good !

i plan to generate an address / viewkey / spendkey, with moneroaddress.org.

then i plan to store the address / viewkey / spendkey in a txt file, compressed in a password protected 7z archive (AES-256)

then i plan to use the mymonero app wallet (android) to manage the address (to receive / send xmr)

( i  do a similar approach for my btc addresses / coins, and for my bch addresses / coins, and no problem until now (fingers crossed ) )

a few questions, please :

Q1) is the generator on moneroaddress.org trustworthy / reliable ?
 answer : apparently yes because recommended on the official website...

Q2) is the mymonero app wallet (android) trustworthy / reliable ?
 answer : apparently yes because recommended on the official website...

Q3) who funds the developments of the monero protocol ? are the developpers / contributors only working for the "cause" ?
 answer : apparently by donations and crowfunding...

any others advices you may have for a beginner ?

thanks !

[cAPSLOCK]

hi !  

i am new to monero, but i have some experience with bitcoin core and bitcoin cash.

i have found a list of app wallets on the official website ( getmonero.org/downloads/ ), ok good !

i plan to generate an address / viewkey / spendkey, with moneroaddress.org.

then i plan to store the address / viewkey / spendkey in a txt file, compressed in a password protected 7z archive (AES-256)

then i plan to use the mymonero app wallet (android) to manage the address (to receive / send xmr)

( i  do a similar approach for my btc addresses / coins, and for my bch addresses / coins, and no problem until now (fingers crossed ) )

a few questions, please :

Q1) is the generator on moneroaddress.org trustworthy / reliable ?
 answer : apparently yes because recommended on the official website...

Q2) is the mymonero app wallet (android) trustworthy / reliable ?
 answer : apparently yes because recommended on the official website...

Q3) who funds the developments of the monero protocol ? are the developpers / contributors only working for the "cause" ?
 answer : apparently by donations and crowfunding...

any others advices you may have for a beginner ?

thanks !

You will not like my reply.

I am going to assume you are planning to store what you consider to an un-lose-able sum.

Personally I think using moneroaddress.org is risky unless you know exactly what you are doing, and then the Dunning-Kruger effect is your enemy. You should ABSOLUTELY NOT use it on a computer that is connected to a network, or ever will be again.  If you can use some disposable OS or tails etc on a laptop that wont ever...  muh seriously.  It's really really just a bad idea.  I assume you will be entering in seed words on a internet connected computer...  all it takes then is a keylogger etc.  I guess if you are going to create a watch only wallet that is basically cold storage...  Then it's better.

Yes MyMonero is (probably?) trustworthy.  But you are choosing the lest secure of all Monero wallets.  It's a web wallet.  I would either use the official wallet, or Feather.  And you might as well generate your keys in those if you planned to just type them in in the first place.

Using a hardware wallet is really the best bet.  Period.  Seed created on unconnected device.  Stored on paper (or metal etc).  You get to use a Bip39 passphrase...  It's worth the 60-100$ IMHO.

Maybe someone can give you a less paranoid answer...  Why says I am right?  Don't trust.

Good luck!!!