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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4671003 times)
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December 01, 2014, 11:28:14 PM
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WTF with the price?

Major support at 150000 satoshis pulled.

Monero is behind BitcoinDark in market cap. Check www.coinmarketcap.com

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December 01, 2014, 11:46:46 PM
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WTF with the price?

Major support at 150000 satoshis pulled.

Monero is behind BitcoinDark in market cap. Check www.coinmarketcap.com

Behind in price does not equal being behind.
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December 02, 2014, 12:20:37 AM
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WTF with the price?

Major support at 150000 satoshis pulled.

Monero is behind BitcoinDark in market cap. Check www.coinmarketcap.com

Behind in price does not equal being behind.
Why are you fighting?
Dark and Monero arent enemies
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December 02, 2014, 02:36:57 AM
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Dark and Monero arent enemies

They are, however, competitors for dominance of the most defensible liquidity niche in all of crypto.  Liquidity points to drk.  Security points to xmr.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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December 02, 2014, 02:40:18 AM
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Dark and Monero arent enemies

They are, however, competitors for dominance of the most defensible liquidity niche in all of crypto.  Liquidity points to drk.  Security points to xmr.

bitcoinwisdom shows a similar volume for both, so i wouldnt say drk is more liquid than xmr

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December 02, 2014, 02:59:02 AM
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Dark and Monero arent enemies

They are, however, competitors for dominance of the most defensible liquidity niche in all of crypto.  Liquidity points to drk.  Security points to xmr.

what is the difference in value between DRK's security/privacy as compared to XMR's?
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December 02, 2014, 04:42:34 AM
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WTF with the price?

Major support at 150000 satoshis pulled.

Monero is behind BitcoinDark in market cap. Check www.coinmarketcap.com

Behind in price does not equal being behind.

It's still good to look at to keep us honest, though, regardless of whatever we *think* our long term fundamental advantages are. Monero definitely has a perception problem from many investors' points of view at the moment.
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December 02, 2014, 05:31:12 AM
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Right. If litecoin dropped 3 places, do you think it would climb back up? liquidity itself is a qualifying strength and loss of it is a weakness, whether the market is being rational or not.

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December 02, 2014, 05:35:06 AM
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WTF with the price?

Major support at 150000 satoshis pulled.

Monero is behind BitcoinDark in market cap. Check www.coinmarketcap.com

Behind in price does not equal being behind.

It's still good to look at to keep us honest, though, regardless of whatever we *think* our long term fundamental advantages are. Monero definitely has a perception problem from many investors' points of view at the moment.
I can understand your sentiment, but I ask:

How can you single-handedly perceive that many investors' points of view reflect a problem with Monero's perception?
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December 02, 2014, 05:46:29 AM
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Not sure who is running forum.monero.cc, but I am still unable to login.  Resetting the password does me no good.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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December 02, 2014, 06:33:42 AM
Last edit: December 02, 2014, 11:15:52 AM by sucksyd
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Any plans about some XMR marketing moves?
Price is still funny, and now it's already for a long time.
from ~2$ to ~0.5$  Undecided
the protocol of monero is obviously promising and the price will be at 0.0026BTC  in a short time.we trust it is the NO. 1 in anon fields.
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December 02, 2014, 08:07:56 AM
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- This repeated price discussion (incl. negative interpretations) are always brought up from random accounts, outside of the XMR community or the small group of long-time trusted and respected altcoin posters, know-how carriers and opinion leaders.

- After reading like 10 posts from him. I figured out, that the account "jehst", is either doing some kind of advanced trolling (act) or is just a very bad poster.
Who is only able to produce stupid claims, wrong arguments, while showing no kind of intelligence, know-how or research (which leads to more unrelevant questions and statements, time wastement, misinformation of people, who try to learn and understand something in these threads, ...)

One way or another his account should be ignored by everybody. I add him now to my ignore list.

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December 02, 2014, 08:11:34 AM
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- This repeated price discussion (incl. negative interpretations) are always brought up from random accounts, outside of the XMR community or the small group of long-time trusted and respected altcoin posters/knowhow carrier/opinion leader.

- After reading like 10 posts from him. I figured out, that the account "jehst", is either doing some kind of advanced trolling (act) or is just a very bad poster.
Who is only able to produce stupid claims, wrong arguments, while showing no kind of intelligence, know-how or research (which leads to more unrelevant questions and statements, time wastement, misinformation of people, who try to learn and understand something in these threads, ...)

One way or another his account should be ignored by everybody. I add him now to my ignore list.



I disagree. I liked his fresh-eyes comments on Monero.
Anyway, no need to be so harsh in your words.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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December 02, 2014, 08:37:53 AM
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Bought more Monero \o/

too bad I didn't buy yesterday when the price was lower

BTC confirmation took forever

still a great deal, though

Looking for a signature campaign.
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December 02, 2014, 08:43:05 AM
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Bought more Monero \o/

too bad I didn't buy yesterday when the price was lower

BTC confirmation took forever

still a great deal, though

I´d like to buy some more, as mining sucks (I run CPU miner on my i7 most of the day while working and during the night I also run GPU miner on R280x to keep my room heat) but Bittrex market is disabled ATM.. Anybody knows what is going on?

Don´t deal with crappy shitcoins and stop wasting electricity
Support real science instead
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December 02, 2014, 08:46:46 AM
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amazing price
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December 02, 2014, 09:36:19 AM
Last edit: December 02, 2014, 09:47:29 AM by jehst
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- This repeated price discussion (incl. negative interpretations) are always brought up from random accounts, outside of the XMR community or the small group of long-time trusted and respected altcoin posters/knowhow carrier/opinion leader.

- After reading like 10 posts from him. I figured out, that the account "jehst", is either doing some kind of advanced trolling (act) or is just a very bad poster.
Who is only able to produce stupid claims, wrong arguments, while showing no kind of intelligence, know-how or research (which leads to more unrelevant questions and statements, time wastement, misinformation of people, who try to learn and understand something in these threads, ...)

One way or another his account should be ignored by everybody. I add him now to my ignore list.



I disagree. I liked his fresh-eyes comments on Monero.
Anyway, no need to be so harsh in your words.

I've been involved in Monero for a short time so I don't know everything. What factually incorrect statements I've made have been redacted with the helpful guidance of others. I thank everyone for their patience and honesty.

If any one of the core devs asks me to stop posting, I will not post again in this thread.

I ask readers to embrace newcomers with patience. Put yourself in the position of one who never followed altcoins and never wanted anything to do with altcoins. Learning about the Cryptonote family alone and its long, varied history is almost overwhelming.

If you've been living and breathing alts for years, everything must be so much clearer.

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December 02, 2014, 09:49:02 AM
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I ask readers to embrace newcomers with patience. Put yourself in the position of one who never followed altcoins and never wanted anything to do with altcoins. Learning about the Cryptonote family alone and its mysterious, convoluted history is almost overwhelming.

Yeah, it's exactly like this. Many coins are attacked by paid trolls, so legit newcomers are treated badly. And this turns them away and the trolls achieve their objective in weakening a coin.

In the CryptoKingdom game, there are no trolls so everyone can just play without interruption. It's quite nice. I bet you could also get hooked if I gave you the starting capital 10 XMR, required to buy your first house!  Grin

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December 02, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
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- This repeated price discussion (incl. negative interpretations) are always brought up from random accounts, outside of the XMR community or the small group of long-time trusted and respected altcoin posters/knowhow carrier/opinion leader.

- After reading like 10 posts from him. I figured out, that the account "jehst", is either doing some kind of advanced trolling (act) or is just a very bad poster.
Who is only able to produce stupid claims, wrong arguments, while showing no kind of intelligence, know-how or research (which leads to more unrelevant questions and statements, time wastement, misinformation of people, who try to learn and understand something in these threads, ...)

One way or another his account should be ignored by everybody. I add him now to my ignore list.



I disagree. I liked his fresh-eyes comments on Monero.
Anyway, no need to be so harsh in your words.

I've been involved in Monero for a short time so I don't know everything. What factually incorrect statements I've made have been redacted with the helpful guidance of others. I thank everyone for their patience and honesty.

If any one of the core devs asks me to stop posting, I will not post again in this thread.

I ask readers to embrace newcomers with patience. Put yourself in the position of one who never followed altcoins and never wanted anything to do with altcoins. Learning about the Cryptonote family alone and its long, varied history is almost overwhelming.

If you've been living and breathing alts for years, everything must be so much clearer.

As a fellow newcomer to Monero, I welcome your views Cheesy
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December 02, 2014, 10:00:07 AM
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As a fellow newcomer to Monero, I welcome your views Cheesy

Many in the old guard are quite hurt now. They believed in Monero so much as to throw the risk management out of the window in investing.

Some stuff is progressing more slowly than anticipated and Bitcoin price is not at $5,000 as it "should" be. Wealth is decimated and feelings also.

A newcomer can now make incredible bargains. When I started in May, the price was between 0.002-0.010 and volumes were so small that acquiring a BTC100 stash took several weeks. At these prices, not only is BTC100 much less, also you get more XMR  Cheesy


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