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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4547633 times)
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November 21, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
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I suggest as marketing activity:  that (all) Monero supporters with account status "Sr. Member" or higher ("Hero Members", "Legendary") set an Monero realated "Personal Text" of their choice, as decent advertising.

Like saddambitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53193 and I have.

I am sure it would improve Moneros image and publicity on this board very much, if hero members like e.g. "binaryFate" or "nioc" would have/use an Monero "Personal Text" tagline.   

Hero members and legendardy members are respected and trusted, their positive perceived image would transfer to Moneros brand image (and increase publicity).


Although I am only a full member, I added a signature. I agree with your statements and I find this a very good initiave. I would advise other members to put something in their signature as well.

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November 21, 2014, 05:53:13 PM
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good signal at these low prices

I own a small amount of XMR (Because I can't afford more), some of it mined. I don't care about current price. I have a small setup that gives me almost free electricity, so as far as I care, I'm buying monero with electricity, and also suporting the network.

Then again, my less than 1k hashrate is just a drop in the pond; where is all the hashrate coming from?
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November 21, 2014, 06:44:58 PM
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As marketing it is not meant bitcointalk forum. Here at least the ones that care of altcoins mostly already know of Monero.
For average bitcointalk altcoin user. current database and simple wallet or unofficial GUI is good enough. and if they would want would already have some Moneros.
Marketing Monero to the general public is not encouraged at the moment. Developers want the marketing to start after the most important fundamentals (GUI, RPC-API, ...) are developed and stable.

Monero will not fail because of bad marketing. I know of multiple people with academic and professional marketing background in Monero community, e.g. core team member "David Latapie" has a marketing background.

I guarantee: We will have good marketing strategy, concept and plan, when developers are ready.
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November 21, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
Last edit: November 21, 2014, 09:52:21 PM by generalizethis
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Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

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November 21, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
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Then again, my less than 1k hashrate is just a drop in the pond; where is all the hashrate coming from?


From other miners.  Cool

1k x 1000 = 1M x 20 = 20M
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November 21, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
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Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?
I prefer a tested coin with solid code base. I dont understand why you ask me. I didnt pushed for marketing.
I think you confuse me with another/other poster(s) pushing for marketing.
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November 21, 2014, 09:51:48 PM
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Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?
I prefer a tested coin with solid code base. I dont understand why you ask me. I didnt pushed for marketing.
I think you confuse me with another/other poster(s) pushing for marketing.

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you. Just commenting on the ongoing conversation. Will edit above.

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November 21, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
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Monero is clear for take-off!
To da MOON!

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November 21, 2014, 10:10:37 PM
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Since my involvement with bitcoin, I've come to think the worse the photoshops the highest the chances of success. Thank you!  Cheesy

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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November 21, 2014, 10:12:40 PM
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Since my involvement with bitcoin, I've come to think the worse the photoshops the highest the chances of success. Thank you!  Cheesy

MS Paint, thank you very much!

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November 21, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
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Monero is clear for take-off!
To da MOON!



Winner!

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November 21, 2014, 10:54:16 PM
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Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

I view the other coin as a ticking time bomb, it has no solid privacy at all, for any 3 letter agency it will be cake walk to extract vital identifying info.

Its a matter of time, and shows that they are on the game only for a quick buck.
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Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

I view the other coin as a ticking time bomb, it has no solid privacy at all, for any 3 letter agency it will be cake walk to extract vital identifying info.

Its a matter of time, and shows that they are on the game only for a quick buck.

Haha, you are funny!

It isn't that you have to keep your address a mystery. It is that the algorithm is cryptographically secure, when using a mixin >= 3. This makes it impossible to ascertain what address sent the amounts in question (which ARE public, via the blockchain) to what address.

But, I guess you assume that they already have quantum computers.
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Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

I view the other coin as a ticking time bomb, it has no solid privacy at all, for any 3 letter agency it will be cake walk to extract vital identifying info.

Its a matter of time, and shows that they are on the game only for a quick buck.

Haha, you are funny!

It isn't that you have to keep your address a mystery. It is that the algorithm is cryptographically secure, when using a mixin >= 3. This makes it impossible to ascertain what address sent the amounts in question (which ARE public, via the blockchain) to what address.

But, I guess you assume that they already have quantum computers.

Why's everyone bashing nemesis? When he writes "other," I'm pretty sure he ain't talking about Monero.

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November 22, 2014, 01:43:15 AM
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Oops, my bad.
 Embarrassed

Sorry NemesisT.
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November 22, 2014, 02:20:05 AM
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np, I should have myself clear, I want to avoid useless confrontation with other Coins because the winner is clear right now and I have put my money where I put my words (XMR). The problem is others are playing a dangerous game of promissing something it can not really deliver, and I think people should get a bit mad with these false marketings because they are bound to hurt its own investors and users in the future when pressure will be applied on crypto.
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November 22, 2014, 02:30:44 AM
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The problem is others are playing a dangerous game of promissing something it can not really deliver, and I think people should get a bit mad with these false marketings because they are bound to hurt its own investors and users in the future when pressure will be applied on crypto.

If you think they can't deliver, then there's no point in getting mad at them, because regardless of whatever happens in between, it's not hard to figure out the one that does deliver when it does. People see that and nature takes its course.

Actually, IMO I'm better off supporting as much as I can build even a little bit of interest in .. because if someone else fails to deliver on another project, then my own belief in XMR might rub off in a non-confrontational way, making it a natural option for anyone who feels that they've made a bad choice on something similar. Just my thought is all.

Maybe it sounds a little different than what you're expecting to here, but it really gets pretty lonely when all you do all day is put down people. Even if they're really scamming, they can still see this fact and use it against you.

No need to rub shortcomings in people's faces. Investors are gonna get hurt anyways. It sucks, but they don't need training wheels and helmets from people they don't even know, especially if all they want to see is rockets to the moon. Fortunately, they tend to keep coming back.

Now blatant scams on the other hand .. different story. Go nuts Cheesy


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November 22, 2014, 03:27:49 AM
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I am now offering premium roasted coffee for Monero. Sales begin next week. I will ship worldwide! *free shipping for US customers*

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November 22, 2014, 11:04:21 AM
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IMO, the GUI is dependent on the new database.

Once the database is considered stable enough for general release, I imagine the GUI will become the primary focus.  Those two technologies together is what will define an appropriate end/new user experience.


We'd actually have a GUI that would suffice for many people if some specific issues could be fixed with the .NET GUI project. I've asked the following questions to help move this premise forward, but have not gotten an answer here from any of the developers. I've been told to ask on IRC by others here, but I'd prefer my questions be answered here, where there is more permanence.

Two questions:

1.) Will the command_server functionality on the development branch be merged into master and rolled out with 0.8.8.5?

2.) If not, has any or all of the following fixes been incorporated into the development branch?: the spam attack patch; block 202612 attack patch; block 202612 attack mitigation and fork fix (via a whole new block blob hash checkpointing system)

Either one of these items would help move things forward on the Monero Client .NET GUI.

Reason being is that, at the moment, we can't use the test version of Monero Client .NET because it requires the command_server functionality in the daemon to properly function. Unfortunately, the latest available bitmonerod.exe binary from the development branch that has this also doesn't have the aforementioned patches incorporated into it, meaning that we can't use it anymore.

On the other hand, the most recent version of Monero Client .NET that does NOT require the binary from the development branch also contains a number of bugs (that have since been fixed in the test version) that make it annoying to use.
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November 22, 2014, 02:28:21 PM
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As marketing it is not meant bitcointalk forum. Here at least the ones that care of altcoins mostly already know of Monero.
For average bitcointalk altcoin user. current database and simple wallet or unofficial GUI is good enough. and if they would want would already have some Moneros.

Ack, "Preaching to the choir" who are willing to reply to the gospel. And if Hero Members are respected outside of Bitcointalk? Are they even respected inside of Bitcointalk  Cool


To reach out of the filter bubble of this thread, Monero has to be polished up enough to reach a mass audience. So let us do a quick comparison with another successfull Altcoin, the Litecoin.
Started with features:

  • quicker confirmations
  • smaller blockchain since starting fresh
  • ASIC resistance due to new algorithm

Which is stunningly similar to Monero

  • quicker confirmations, too.
  • smaller blockchain since starting fresh
    with a small drawback that is is growing rather quickly
  • ASIC resistance due to new algorithm
    just the move over to GPUs has allready been done
   
The feature that might make Monero win the race is perhaps the privacy, but we don't know for sure. This is hypothetical, since Ringsignatures could backfire for any currently unknown reason.

But how can Monero compare to Litecoin from a new user perspective? Litecoin has a QT based GUI, period. This is the next milestone I think.

Disclaimer: Actually I am happy with development process, there are several developers actively working on the codebase. The last stain from blockchain attacks, high TX fees, has been cleaned out. Database is arriving soon[tm] and once the GUI is shaping up, we are ready to roll out marketing presence almost everywhere. Stay tuned.
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