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Btw volume is volume - whether comments on this forum or trading volume itself. BOTH show interest in the coin, no matter what is said. Deleting any posts presents less interest and less interest is all this coin needs to die.
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Cryptoolate
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Iconic Amateur-You've been the most prevalent poster here in recent days and the verdict is in, you don't like IE and I can respect peoples opinions of others. I do think that the race part needs to lay to rest just out of respect. With that said, if you are also here to maybe assist in the revival of XLB, what do you think are the next steps?
Just so you know, I was in XLB from very early and lost quite a bit as many others here. Like almost all so I'm here since well, what else do I have to lose.
I know us investors and believers are mad, but let's not assume and speculate, out of anger, until real facts are laid out on whether a specific individual (s) are at fault or if anon can be accomplished by 6/1.
And Asceric, you don't have to retire 'YAY'
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May 30, 2014, 02:05:51 AM |
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看来还有人相信作者不是骗子，呵呵~
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May 30, 2014, 02:10:24 AM |
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Here's a thought, so let's just say the coin is dead. Due to XLB's name and fundamentals, how hard would it be for the community and new DEV/coder to pick up where it was left off? At this point, we can all make a difference. Sure, the community is slightly tainted and battered, but like I've said before, the most successful people in the world have experienced failure at one point or another.
So the question is, how do we stand up and move forward?
If needed, could we take over ownership? Not to make this a coup or to take anything away from the DEV, he obviously still has coins, and since maybe he has other projects or is preoccupied with other dreams, maybe we can sweeten the pot for him. Regardless of what his initial intentions were.
Think how we can join forces and really make a difference now.
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May 30, 2014, 02:10:45 AM |
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Sadly the only thing that can save this coin is for Iconic to take it over.
You are basically passing a judgement under the garb of veiled and loosely put together logic and a vague sense of Bouzy-allegiance. I am not saying you are an alter ego of Bouzy but there is a difference between sparking a debate and blatant endorsement. This is the latter. If you like iconic, go follow him to whatever his new coin is going to be. The community that he brought with him never was the Libertycoin community, and they are gone now. What remains is the real Libertycoin community. If that is not to your liking, you should move on. Why the anger at me for giving my honest assessment? I put in good money and got left holding a bag just like everyone else here. My assessment was not one sided and was very fair. If you look at my history I have disagreed with Iconic on multiple occasions. I disagreed when he suggested the BC pump. I disagreed with how he handled the wall street donations. To label me a groupie and tell me to just follow him is rather narrow sighted. Read the history. History don't lie. People please read my entire post. Its not all IE bashing, only the beginning. The point is this idea that me and my girlfriend have been kicking around to try to promote adoption for XLB. History lies ALL THE TIME! A nice recent example would be barabbas, who said exactly the same thing you just did. That he was one of IE's biggest critics. He also would invite people to check his history at every chance he could. Then IE posted screenshots of him and barabbas exchanging PMs. Turns out they were verified as being the same ip, so ya History lies all the time. My main point howerver is that everyone accusing the Dev of being a dumper or not able to handle XLB, you gotta remember how this actually started, not the way people are spreading the story. The actual events leading up to Libertyday started off 24 hrs before when barabbas called for a hostile takeover of the coin, trying to give IE full Dev control. This was used to distract people for a while so IE could exit. He did it step by step the same way with BC. Hindsight being what it is, I am forever going to stay faaaaar away from any coin with supporters like them. Im reading so much of their FUD lately that I have become very adept at spotting Iconic's style of writing, even when he changes it up to make it look like he doesn't speak english very well. That's right, I spotted you already. Just avaoid some of the new FUD spreaders, you are so transparent it's easy to see where it is coming from. In summation: The future of Liberty will be defined with adoption. We have to move this coin away from being used primarily as a method of accruing BTC and into a realm of being able to use XLB in the real world. That is where a coins staying power comes in. I am also looking into a fiat to XLB exchange with a system that encourages people to buy XLB rather than sell it. A reward system with points that could be used with merchants, or members of the community offering goods for points. I really think this will revolutionize XLB and make it something other than an exchange coin. I am welcome to everyone's suggestions of ways to improve upon the idea. Remember not just opening the fiat to XLB exchange, but making it something that people have a good incentive to WANT to do it. Make it a sweet deal or clever promoting and we can figure it out. (some) People here are brilliant! Templar77, I fully support you and I am sorry that people are trying to blame you for this crap that went down. I dont give a shit at all who sold what, I've sold XLB at almost every price range. That is everyone's right! I also bought at almost every price range, so I still hold quite a bit. I know you do too so you still care about this coin. The fact that you are still around and trying to do things with the coin tells me all I need to know. A scammer would have just raged and come back repeatedly to spread FUD out of spite with fake accounts. You are still here updating us and that says a lot. Ignore the people spreading FUD and better yet, don't even entertain them with replies, it only feeds the trolls. The only way to make them go away is to stop feeding them. Have a great day everyone, YAY! Edit: also why people say the multipool was a scam? I got my payments. They don't pay out every day but they did pay out while I mined with them |
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May 30, 2014, 02:12:51 AM |
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We ready to invest in the development Libertycoin 150k $. Let the developer contacted us.
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May 30, 2014, 02:24:07 AM |
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Sadly the only thing that can save this coin is for Iconic to take it over.
You are basically passing a judgement under the garb of veiled and loosely put together logic and a vague sense of Bouzy-allegiance. I am not saying you are an alter ego of Bouzy but there is a difference between sparking a debate and blatant endorsement. This is the latter. If you like iconic, go follow him to whatever his new coin is going to be. The community that he brought with him never was the Libertycoin community, and they are gone now. What remains is the real Libertycoin community. If that is not to your liking, you should move on. Why the anger at me for giving my honest assessment? I put in good money and got left holding a bag just like everyone else here. My assessment was not one sided and was very fair. If you look at my history I have disagreed with Iconic on multiple occasions. I disagreed when he suggested the BC pump. I disagreed with how he handled the wall street donations. To label me a groupie and tell me to just follow him is rather narrow sighted. Read the history. History don't lie. People please read my entire post. Its not all IE bashing, only the beginning. The point is this idea that me and my girlfriend have been kicking around to try to promote adoption for XLB. History lies ALL THE TIME! A nice recent example would be barabbas, who said exactly the same thing you just did. That he was one of IE's biggest critics. He also would invite people to check his history at every chance he could. Then IE posted screenshots of him and barabbas exchanging PMs. Turns out they were verified as being the same ip, so ya History lies all the time. My main point howerver is that everyone accusing the Dev of being a dumper or not able to handle XLB, you gotta remember how this actually started, not the way people are spreading the story. The actual events leading up to Libertyday started off 24 hrs before when barabbas called for a hostile takeover of the coin, trying to give IE full Dev control. This was used to distract people for a while so IE could exit. He did it step by step the same way with BC. Hindsight being what it is, I am forever going to stay faaaaar away from any coin with supporters like them. Im reading so much of their FUD lately that I have become very adept at spotting Iconic's style of writing, even when he changes it up to make it look like he doesn't speak english very well. That's right, I spotted you already. Just avaoid some of the new FUD spreaders, you are so transparent it's easy to see where it is coming from. In summation: The future of Liberty will be defined with adoption. We have to move this coin away from being used primarily as a method of accruing BTC and into a realm of being able to use XLB in the real world. That is where a coins staying power comes in. I am also looking into a fiat to XLB exchange with a system that encourages people to buy XLB rather than sell it. A reward system with points that could be used with merchants, or members of the community offering goods for points. I really think this will revolutionize XLB and make it something other than an exchange coin. I am welcome to everyone's suggestions of ways to improve upon the idea. Remember not just opening the fiat to XLB exchange, but making it something that people have a good incentive to WANT to do it. Make it a sweet deal or clever promoting and we can figure it out. (some) People here are brilliant! Templar77, I fully support you and I am sorry that people are trying to blame you for this crap that went down. I dont give a shit at all who sold what, I've sold XLB at almost every price range. That is everyone's right! I also bought at almost every price range, so I still hold quite a bit. I know you do too so you still care about this coin. The fact that you are still around and trying to do things with the coin tells me all I need to know. A scammer would have just raged and come back repeatedly to spread FUD out of spite with fake accounts. You are still here updating us and that says a lot. Ignore the people spreading FUD and better yet, don't even entertain them with replies, it only feeds the trolls. The only way to make them go away is to stop feeding them. Have a great day everyone, YAY! Edit: also why people say the multipool was a scam? I got my payments. They don't pay out every day but they did pay out while I mined with them some crap thats why I asked for people to tell me, I did not know what pool they were talking about. So thanks for that, even if you did answer in the trolliest, Iconic style FUDiest manner possible. Was that Templar's pool or is he getting blamed for somebody else's pool? |
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May 30, 2014, 02:32:18 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
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EmilioMann
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May 30, 2014, 02:42:21 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
transparency!
stop deleting and answer some simple questions
If you were REALLY looking for information, there are many ways to get it. PM someone whos been pro Liberty for while, look up twitter or go to the IRC and ask the dev directly. Chest thumping by Public naming and shaming is counter productive. and i haven't done that? i asked if they could show us their wallets. i too lost a lot of BTC on XLB! if they say they are not scammers. SHOW US +1 Yes, dear devs - I suppose this is a great opportunity to show us you are clean. Show us strong proof - ideally one utilizing signed message for the wallet by which anyone can assure self you are real owner/s of the wallets. It can shed necessary light now - in darkest hour of Libertycoin... ...or Libertycon? Libertycoin was not premined. I (Templar77) own 312,000 coins which I bought in many moments investing 5 BTC. My address has been in the main thread for days. What I do with those coin is for me to decide since is my own money and not part of a premine. LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR Message: Templar77 Signature: H9vHA+09vpBeCL5G5XdSFk1XaFExYlwMPI7L6xTl9DRm0ODQkbhJZYzWWt0Wm19Th3P4mbKlGmvvwpJqfdP5a/Q= |
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May 30, 2014, 02:47:48 AM |
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Some random shit...
Do you believe the stuff you post, or you know it is BS and you just post it anyway. The dev scammed us all and there is hard proof. In regards to barabbas...so for nearly 2 weeks I bitterly argued with myself for what purpose? I remember when idiots were posting I was from India because of my IP and then when I posted NYC local papers they STFU. I do not need to pretend to be someone else, I love being me. Give it up, you were caught 3 different times now. You are more insane than I thought. As for your proof, you've got none. So the Dev got the first blocks? WHO CARES THATS HOW EVERY COIN GOES. It takes a bit once the wallets passphrase gets released to set up. That does not mean it's premined. More IE diestraction FUD because his other FUD was proven to be just FUD. It's clear as day that you tried to steal the coin the night before Liberty day, BEFORE you tried your "OMG the devs dumped tactic" How did that work with BC? I hear its still alive without you. Do you still cry at night? Libertycoin is stronger without you even if it is trading lower. I'm putting you barabbas, brammien and your wife, trioste on ignore and even if you reply to me on your alts, im no longer gonna fall for your baits, Im gonna be the bigger man and just ignore it. Au revoir. *Puts down popcorn* |
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May 30, 2014, 02:54:26 AM |
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Sadly the only thing that can save this coin is for Iconic to take it over.
You are basically passing a judgement under the garb of veiled and loosely put together logic and a vague sense of Bouzy-allegiance. I am not saying you are an alter ego of Bouzy but there is a difference between sparking a debate and blatant endorsement. This is the latter. If you like iconic, go follow him to whatever his new coin is going to be. The community that he brought with him never was the Libertycoin community, and they are gone now. What remains is the real Libertycoin community. If that is not to your liking, you should move on. Why the anger at me for giving my honest assessment? I put in good money and got left holding a bag just like everyone else here. My assessment was not one sided and was very fair. If you look at my history I have disagreed with Iconic on multiple occasions. I disagreed when he suggested the BC pump. I disagreed with how he handled the wall street donations. To label me a groupie and tell me to just follow him is rather narrow sighted. Read the history. History don't lie. People please read my entire post. Its not all IE bashing, only the beginning. The point is this idea that me and my girlfriend have been kicking around to try to promote adoption for XLB. History lies ALL THE TIME! A nice recent example would be barabbas, who said exactly the same thing you just did. That he was one of IE's biggest critics. He also would invite people to check his history at every chance he could. Then IE posted screenshots of him and barabbas exchanging PMs. Turns out they were verified as being the same ip, so ya History lies all the time. My main point howerver is that everyone accusing the Dev of being a dumper or not able to handle XLB, you gotta remember how this actually started, not the way people are spreading the story. The actual events leading up to Libertyday started off 24 hrs before when barabbas called for a hostile takeover of the coin, trying to give IE full Dev control. This was used to distract people for a while so IE could exit. He did it step by step the same way with BC. Hindsight being what it is, I am forever going to stay faaaaar away from any coin with supporters like them. Im reading so much of their FUD lately that I have become very adept at spotting Iconic's style of writing, even when he changes it up to make it look like he doesn't speak english very well. That's right, I spotted you already. Just avaoid some of the new FUD spreaders, you are so transparent it's easy to see where it is coming from. In summation: The future of Liberty will be defined with adoption. We have to move this coin away from being used primarily as a method of accruing BTC and into a realm of being able to use XLB in the real world. That is where a coins staying power comes in. I am also looking into a fiat to XLB exchange with a system that encourages people to buy XLB rather than sell it. A reward system with points that could be used with merchants, or members of the community offering goods for points. I really think this will revolutionize XLB and make it something other than an exchange coin. I am welcome to everyone's suggestions of ways to improve upon the idea. Remember not just opening the fiat to XLB exchange, but making it something that people have a good incentive to WANT to do it. Make it a sweet deal or clever promoting and we can figure it out. (some) People here are brilliant! Templar77, I fully support you and I am sorry that people are trying to blame you for this crap that went down. I dont give a shit at all who sold what, I've sold XLB at almost every price range. That is everyone's right! I also bought at almost every price range, so I still hold quite a bit. I know you do too so you still care about this coin. The fact that you are still around and trying to do things with the coin tells me all I need to know. A scammer would have just raged and come back repeatedly to spread FUD out of spite with fake accounts. You are still here updating us and that says a lot. Ignore the people spreading FUD and better yet, don't even entertain them with replies, it only feeds the trolls. The only way to make them go away is to stop feeding them. Have a great day everyone, YAY! Edit: also why people say the multipool was a scam? I got my payments. They don't pay out every day but they did pay out while I mined with them some crap thats why I asked for people to tell me, I did not know what pool they were talking about. So thanks for that, even if you did answer in the trolliest, Iconic style FUDiest manner possible. Was that Templar's pool or is he getting blamed for somebody else's pool? was set up by the 2 scammers. they paid out some miners while they kept the bulk (it speculated around 3 million, but could be more). It was Templar77/Carlos RT Ferguson and loljosh the teen ager Canadian (not fully confirmed yet, that that;s in effect loljohn, but will soon). But you want to believe what you want to believe, even if that includes that I am a martian. So up to you or up yours, whatever best fits the bill, ok? [/quote] the only things i read were "its speculated" and "not Confirmed" CLASSIC!!! ok now you're on ignore too! YAY! |
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May 30, 2014, 02:56:06 AM
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. It's not called currency by accident. It is a direct refence to the current of a river, with lakes (banks), pools (accounts), waterfalls (market drops), slow meandering loops (low interest rates) and fast flowing shallow sections (everybody wants more). Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless - a stagnant pond with no inlet or outlet. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. more sellers than holders guys, i wish ie and his minions would just go away already. he's unwanted, just like his imagined wall street event. let's face it, in hindsight the pump and the dump were forthcoming as a result of IE's involvement. the guy is pure flash and no bang. or IF there's a bang, its the type that blows up in ur face for following his lead. he plays the market, he plays us. the smartest among us will indeed learn to identify IE's signature moves and ignore. he's the unwanted child of crypto, i see it now. too bad it's hard to predict how others will react. else i could have made a killing in the markets rather than end up just where I started. IE, u may be a total nutjob and a perfect egotist, but u sure know ur shit. ur very effective at it. if that's how u rate success, then u are the most successfully effective egotistical nutjob in crypto, bar none. congratulations. u deserve the recognition. |
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May 30, 2014, 03:15:27 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. It's not called currency by accident. It is a direct refence to the current of a river, with lakes (banks), pools (accounts), waterfalls (market drops), slow meandering loops (low interest rates) and fast flowing shallow sections (everybody wants more). Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless - a stagnant pond with no inlet or outlet. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. |
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EmilioMann
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May 30, 2014, 03:16:15 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
transparency!
stop deleting and answer some simple questions
If you were REALLY looking for information, there are many ways to get it. PM someone whos been pro Liberty for while, look up twitter or go to the IRC and ask the dev directly. Chest thumping by Public naming and shaming is counter productive. and i haven't done that? i asked if they could show us their wallets. i too lost a lot of BTC on XLB! if they say they are not scammers. SHOW US +1 Yes, dear devs - I suppose this is a great opportunity to show us you are clean. Show us strong proof - ideally one utilizing signed message for the wallet by which anyone can assure self you are real owner/s of the wallets. It can shed necessary light now - in darkest hour of Libertycoin... ...or Libertycon? Libertycoin was not premined. I (Templar77) own 312,000 coins which I bought in many moments investing 5 BTC. My address has been in the main thread for days. What I do with those coin is for me to decide since is my own money and not part of a premine. LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR Message: Templar77 Signature: H9vHA+09vpBeCL5G5XdSFk1XaFExYlwMPI7L6xTl9DRm0ODQkbhJZYzWWt0Wm19Th3P4mbKlGmvvwpJqfdP5a/Q= [/quote] |
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May 30, 2014, 03:16:36 AM |
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The coin itself does not change, I do not understand why you want to sell
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May 30, 2014, 03:22:24 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. It's not called currency by accident. It is a direct refence to the current of a river, with lakes (banks), pools (accounts), waterfalls (market drops), slow meandering loops (low interest rates) and fast flowing shallow sections (everybody wants more). Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless - a stagnant pond with no inlet or outlet. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. Anonymous are you doing it? What time can make anonymous? We do not give us a flicker exact time |
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May 30, 2014, 03:23:32 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. It's not called currency by accident. It is a direct refence to the current of a river, with lakes (banks), pools (accounts), waterfalls (market drops), slow meandering loops (low interest rates) and fast flowing shallow sections (everybody wants more). Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless - a stagnant pond with no inlet or outlet. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. Anonymous are you doing it? What time can make anonymous? We do not give us a flicker exact time We don't have a date yet. |
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May 30, 2014, 03:26:16 AM |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. It's not called currency by accident. It is a direct refence to the current of a river, with lakes (banks), pools (accounts), waterfalls (market drops), slow meandering loops (low interest rates) and fast flowing shallow sections (everybody wants more). Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless - a stagnant pond with no inlet or outlet. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. Anonymous are you doing it? What time can make anonymous? We do not give us a flicker exact time We don't have a date yet. No scheduled time? You used to say that one week is not it? You are fooled us? |
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Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Seriously? *IF* - I have no idea - *IF* they hold 99% of the coins it makes them worthless. Currency is oil in the engine. No oil, the engine freezes solid and the car goes nowhere, it stops. Without liquidity and free movement of a currency, it is worthless. If the currency supply is limitted, the price *should* go up, but only once it is in circulation. It's not called currency by accident. It is a direct refence to the current of a river, with lakes (banks), pools (accounts), waterfalls (market drops), slow meandering loops (low interest rates) and fast flowing shallow sections (everybody wants more). Holding 99% of the coins and depriving the market of circulation means it becomes worthless - a stagnant pond with no inlet or outlet. It's at 1500 now, from 1800 earlier. Anonymous are you doing it? What time can make anonymous? We do not give us a flicker exact time We don't have a date yet. No scheduled time? You used to say that one week is not it? You are fooled us? We have found in our recent your personal information will be at your local prosecution for fraud you'll see |
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