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September 03, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
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Leave barabbas alone !  Cheesy

I must admit, it took me a while to sorta get him/her * someone a while back suggested he could be female, no matter.

Now everyone lately has been trying to psychoanalyze him - i gave up on that quest.

barabbas can be very colorful, combative, and has shown a civil / sarcastic side that dare i say I've come to enjoy hehe
he is consistent in his approach and delivery. The long novels are designed to make the pray confused & tired.

Once you can get past that, you will realize he provides contrast, random insights, and a modicum of entertainment.  Wink

Sounds sort of like Stockholm syndrome but I get what you're saying.  Haha.   Cheesy

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don't ask them questions cause they just take you in circles and its 100% pointless.

In some sick way, it's actually rather impressive that they're able to deflect any and all criticism of their own actions here on this thread while in turn completely disparaging VeriCoin, the devs and the rest of the VRC community.

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September 03, 2014, 08:41:55 PM
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Brace yourself, the next phase in vericoin is coming...
100K 200K 500K? who knows


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September 03, 2014, 08:56:36 PM
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Brace yourself, the next phase in vericoin is coming...
100K 200K 500K? who knows
you base this on what exacly ? and how about a time frame 10 20 years?

How can u expect our resident trolls to Pass on a gift like this ..

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September 03, 2014, 10:18:45 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.

You are right ScottAllyn, before jumping into conclusion we need to get the facts. The facts are

- A user called Herman was looking for a VRC seller in the IRC channel saying that he is not familiar with altcoin, but he would trust the sellers in the official IRC channel and he has 132 BTC
- There were many users sitting in the IRC room and witnessed this, including one of my friend who has 100k VRC and logged in not long before that event to see if there are any news about DEV4
- Someone, a regular IRC user offered to sell his VRC for the price of 0.00033, 4 times higher than the price at the time saying for this inexperienced buyer that because the quantity is big, this is a fair price
- At that moment no one raised any issue with the deal and EffectsToCause and the German Verileader Reavon jumped in by saying that they will escrow a deal
- At that point a user started to complain that don't rip-off that inexperienced buyer and how on the earth is possible that the lead VeriCoin developer is orchestrating such rip-off
- Another IRC visitor user had complained as well saying that yes, that's not right
- EffectsToCause kicked-off the users who complained from the IRC channel
- 2 hours later a regular IRC user in this thread offered me a deal, saying that there is a buyer with 132 BTC and asked if I am interested in selling my coin for this user

According to the IRC trans-script these are the facts what users/investors who were sitting in the IRC room could see.

EffectsToCause who is man of high moral standards, doesn't like FUD and kicked-off users from the IRC channel who complained about his role in the ripp-off deal never ever said to Herman, that please go away, you can buy coin for 0.00008, you don't need to pay 0.00033 here. Instead of EffectsToCause - according to his essays is on a mission to serve human kind with decentralized digital currencies - was orchestrating a deal with a Verileader, Reavon to create an escrow and take the 132 BTC from Herman - to sell vericoin for 4 times the market price.

IRC users, existing and potential investors who visited the IRC room had no reason to assume that it is a joke as you said - all they could see that Doug Pike lead Vericoin developer  was part of rip-off deal.

First the shady association with Wizrig. Then the price pumping tweets from the devs, appearance in the exchanges troll-box, sending 200k VRC exchanges to dump it and now this escrow deal.
I don't think that's what investors expected when they read the PhD students and the MS developer CVs.
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September 03, 2014, 10:34:55 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.

You are right ScottAllyn, before jumping into conclusion we need to get the facts. The facts are

- A user called Herman was looking for a VRC seller in the IRC channel saying that he is not familiar with altcoin, but he would trust the sellers in the official IRC channel and he has 132 BTC
- There were many users sitting in the IRC room and witnessed this, including one of my friend who has 100k VRC and logged in not long before that event to see if there are any news about DEV4
- Someone, a regular IRC user offered to sell his VRC for the price of 0.00033, 4 times higher than the price at the time saying for this inexperienced buyer that because the quantity is big, this is a fair price
- At that moment no one raised any issue with the deal and EffectsToCause and the German Verileader Reavon jumped in by saying that they will escrow a deal
- At that point a user started to complain that don't rip-off that inexperienced buyer and how on the earth is possible that the lead VeriCoin developer is orchestrating such rip-off
- Another IRC visitor user had complained as well saying that yes, that's not right
- EffectsToCause kicked-off the users who complained from the IRC channel
- 2 hours later a regular IRC user in this thread offered me a deal, saying that there is a buyer with 132 BTC and asked if I am interested in selling my coin for this user

According to the IRC trans-script these are the facts what users/investors who were sitting in the IRC room could see.

EffectsToCause who is man of high moral standards, doesn't like FUD and kicked-off users from the IRC channel who complained about his role in the ripp-off deal never ever said to Herman, that please go away, you can buy coin for 0.00008, you don't need to pay 0.00033 here. Instead of EffectsToCause - according to his essays is on a mission to serve human kind with decentralized digital currencies - was orchestrating a deal with a Verileader, Reavon to create an escrow and take the 132 BTC from Herman - to sell vericoin for 4 times the market price.

IRC users, existing and potential investor who visited the IRC room had no reason to assume that it is a joke as you said - all they could see that Doug Pike lead Vericoin developer  was part of rip-off deal.

First the shady association with Wizrig. Then the price pumping tweets from the devs, appearance in the exchanges troll-box, sending 200k VRC exchanges to dump it and now this escrow deal.
I don't think that's what the investors expected when they read the PhD students and the MS developer CVs.

first off an inexperienced buyer wouldn't know how to even go to an irc channel , so it was obvious he was just there to play games. all you do is look for ways to make the devs look shady which in turn makes your motives clear!... for anyone who remotely believes your uninformed story, i would like to clarify that 98% of what he just said is pure bs.. i was there watching the entire time! incredible the length you go to...

unlike our little inexperienced friend that came into irc to play games with the devs..i do have buying experience , and you said if i had 150 btc to buy your bag of vericoin you would, i then offered you to even choose the escrow service YOURSELF!! but then you went on to say that u need my phone # my address my name, date of birth, place of work, what i ate for breakfast etc... and then proceeded to blame me for not wanting to comply with your insane terms... seems to me like your quite inexperienced yourself... and that you play the same games our little "inexperienced" buyer wanted to play (who somehow was experienced enough to go look to buy off an exchange through the irc)

but hey, keep up the great posts! nothing like someone shooting themselves in the foot over and over and over ....and over again LOL


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September 03, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.

You are right ScottAllyn, before jumping into conclusion we need to get the facts. The facts are

- A user called Herman was looking for a VRC seller in the IRC channel saying that he is not familiar with altcoin, but he would trust the sellers in the official IRC channel and he has 132 BTC
- There were many users sitting in the IRC room and witnessed this, including one of my friend who has 100k VRC and logged in not long before that event to see if there are any news about DEV4
- Someone, a regular IRC user offered to sell his VRC for the price of 0.00033, 4 times higher than the price at the time saying for this inexperienced buyer that because the quantity is big, this is a fair price
- At that moment no one raised any issue with the deal and EffectsToCause and the German Verileader Reavon jumped in by saying that they will escrow a deal
- At that point a user started to complain that don't rip-off that inexperienced buyer and how on the earth is possible that the lead VeriCoin developer is orchestrating such rip-off
- Another IRC visitor user had complained as well saying that yes, that's not right
- EffectsToCause kicked-off the users who complained from the IRC channel
- 2 hours later a regular IRC user in this thread offered me a deal, saying that there is a buyer with 132 BTC and asked if I am interested in selling my coin for this user

According to the IRC trans-script these are the facts what users/investors who were sitting in the IRC room could see.

EffectsToCause who is man of high moral standards, doesn't like FUD and kicked-off users from the IRC channel who complained about his role in the ripp-off deal never ever said to Herman, that please go away, you can buy coin for 0.00008, you don't need to pay 0.00033 here. Instead of EffectsToCause - according to his essays is on a mission to serve human kind with decentralized digital currencies - was orchestrating a deal with a Verileader, Reavon to create an escrow and take the 132 BTC from Herman - to sell vericoin for 4 times the market price.

IRC users, existing and potential investors who visited the IRC room had no reason to assume that it is a joke as you said - all they could see that Doug Pike lead Vericoin developer  was part of rip-off deal.

First the shady association with Wizrig. Then the price pumping tweets from the devs, appearance in the exchanges troll-box, sending 200k VRC exchanges to dump it and now this escrow deal.
I don't think that's what investors expected when they read the PhD students and the MS developer CVs.


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September 03, 2014, 10:48:38 PM
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don't ask them questions cause they just take you in circles and its 100% pointless.

In some sick way, it's actually rather impressive that they're able to deflect any and all criticism of their own actions here on this thread while in turn completely disparaging VeriCoin, the devs and the rest of the VRC community.

Two quick corrections bucko: AltcoinUK and me, two VERY different individuals.
Second: i will never disparage the single asset this project has, its community. Mind you, the real community, those who read this thread but rarely post and that support the project to the extreme of staking around 20 million coins. Chapeau to those. The 4 Yahoos -you included- that call themsrlves "community" here are something (toxic) else entirely.
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September 03, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.

How can anybody make a decsion on Dev4?. We have no idea who he is?  What he's offering? or what he wants for a deal?  What are the targets?. How many coins involved?. Time limit on hitting targets?. What his intentions after?You Have to be kidding. Decide??? on what?

NO! on  Dev4!

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don't ask them questions cause they just take you in circles and its 100% pointless.

In some sick way, it's actually rather impressive that they're able to deflect any and all criticism of their own actions here on this thread while in turn completely disparaging VeriCoin, the devs and the rest of the VRC community.

Two quick corrections bucko: AltcoinUK and me, two VERY different individuals.
Second: i will never disparage the single asset this project has, its community. Mind you, the real community, those who read this thread but rarely post and that support the project to the extreme of staking around 20 million coins. Chapeau to those. The 4 Yahoos -you included- that call themsrlves "community" here are something (toxic) else entirely.

Your post made me smile, barabbas.  Thank you.  I'm glad that you consider me toxic. 

I'm the sunlight that's disinfecting your deadly (FUD) bacteria.  Grin

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September 03, 2014, 11:01:05 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.

How can anybody make a decsion on Dev4?. We have no idea who he is?  What he's offering? or what he wants for a deal?  What are the targets?. How many coins involved?. Time limit on hitting targets?. What his intentions after?You Have to be kidding. Decide??? on what?

NO! on  Dev4!


I tend to agree with you but if he was thoroughly vetted and found to be a person of integrity then I would probably reconsider.

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September 03, 2014, 11:16:50 PM
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just made a wallet
VP6P7e3HBrsSsrWbMkpiar3gQX17nCc5vu
can't wait to start trading Smiley

I will send you some VRC to get you started and welcome! Don't let the "two yahoos" or as I like to call them A&B, let you think that they are part of this coin.

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September 03, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.

You are right ScottAllyn, before jumping into conclusion we need to get the facts. The facts are

- A user called Herman was looking for a VRC seller in the IRC channel saying that he is not familiar with altcoin, but he would trust the sellers in the official IRC channel and he has 132 BTC
- There were many users sitting in the IRC room and witnessed this, including one of my friend who has 100k VRC and logged in not long before that event to see if there are any news about DEV4
- Someone, a regular IRC user offered to sell his VRC for the price of 0.00033, 4 times higher than the price at the time saying for this inexperienced buyer that because the quantity is big, this is a fair price
- At that moment no one raised any issue with the deal and EffectsToCause and the German Verileader Reavon jumped in by saying that they will escrow a deal
- At that point a user started to complain that don't rip-off that inexperienced buyer and how on the earth is possible that the lead VeriCoin developer is orchestrating such rip-off
- Another IRC visitor user had complained as well saying that yes, that's not right
- EffectsToCause kicked-off the users who complained from the IRC channel
- 2 hours later a regular IRC user in this thread offered me a deal, saying that there is a buyer with 132 BTC and asked if I am interested in selling my coin for this user

According to the IRC trans-script these are the facts what users/investors who were sitting in the IRC room could see.

EffectsToCause who is man of high moral standards, doesn't like FUD and kicked-off users from the IRC channel who complained about his role in the ripp-off deal never ever said to Herman, that please go away, you can buy coin for 0.00008, you don't need to pay 0.00033 here. Instead of EffectsToCause - according to his essays is on a mission to serve human kind with decentralized digital currencies - was orchestrating a deal with a Verileader, Reavon to create an escrow and take the 132 BTC from Herman - to sell vericoin for 4 times the market price.

IRC users, existing and potential investors who visited the IRC room had no reason to assume that it is a joke as you said - all they could see that Doug Pike lead Vericoin developer  was part of rip-off deal.

First the shady association with Wizrig. Then the price pumping tweets from the devs, appearance in the exchanges troll-box, sending 200k VRC exchanges to dump it and now this escrow deal.
I don't think that's what investors expected when they read the PhD students and the MS developer CVs.


Those are not facts but assumptions!

Where can you purchase 400k VRC on any exchange? No one is selling right now just staking...
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September 03, 2014, 11:22:22 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.
well said and everyone on irc is aware of these guys hence the reason they toyed with the situation Wink


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September 03, 2014, 11:22:44 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.

The above description of the event is purely based on the IRC trans-cript, what I described above are what EffectsToCause, Reavon and other users said/did in the IRC channel - and what an investor who just logged in could see in the IRC channel.

From investors viewpoint it is more important EffectsToCause's role in the scam, that he was actively facilitating an escrow to sell VRC for the 4 times of current market price, then discuss random user altcoinUK is a liar or not, don't you think?

However, if you make the accusation of that I am related in any form to the IRC scammers, if you accuse me of having any roles in that scam and you imply that I scam peoples in the IRC channel, then lets submit a subpoena to get the TCP/IP details including IP addresses and who was who in that shameful act. Are you still accusing me that I scam people in the IRC channel?

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September 03, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
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just made a wallet
VP6P7e3HBrsSsrWbMkpiar3gQX17nCc5vu
can't wait to start trading Smiley
+1
welcome Smiley


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September 03, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.

How can anybody make a decsion on Dev4?. We have no idea who he is?  What he's offering? or what he wants for a deal?  What are the targets?. How many coins involved?. Time limit on hitting targets?. What his intentions after?You Have to be kidding. Decide??? on what?

NO! on  Dev4!


I tend to agree with you but if he was thoroughly vetted and found to be a person of integrity then I would probably reconsider.
same here Smiley
I'm sure well hear about it soon.


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September 03, 2014, 11:38:08 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.

The above description of the event is purely based on the IRC trans-cript, what I described above are what EffectsToCause, Reavon and other users said/did in the IRC channel - and what an investor who just logged in could see in the IRC channel.

From investors viewpoint it is more important EffectsToCause's role in the scam, that he was actively facilitating an escrow to sell VRC for the 4 times of current market price, then discuss random user altcoinUK is a liar or not, don't you think?

However, if you make the accusation of that I am related in any form to the IRC scammers, if you accuse me of having any roles in that scam and you imply that I scam peoples in the IRC channel, then lets submit a subpoena to get the TCP/IP details including IP addresses and who was who in that shameful act. Are you still accusing me that I scam people in the IRC channel?


WOW LOL your worried about what potential investors "watching the irc" are thinking?! lololololol no no wait.................bahhahahahhahahhahahahahahahahha thats the best thing I've heard come out of your mouth in days!!! lolololol 

how about just worry about what potential investors are thinking when they come HERE( where most potential investors check first) and read your constant repetitive filth..

loll this one was the best though lololl got to hand it to you lol

altcoinUK: "The above description of the event is purely based on the IRC trans-cript, what I described above are what EffectsToCause, Reavon and other users said/did in the IRC channel - and what an investor who just logged in could see in the IRC channel."

bahahahhahhahah so cute , i didn't realize how much you cared what other potential investors thought...LOL

keep digging that hole lol EVEN barabbas made it clear he has nothing to do with you... thats when you know your really done... lol


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September 03, 2014, 11:40:03 PM
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Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.
The purported IRC buyer is a scammer or a group of scammers who seem to have been targeting IRC Vericoin users for several weeks now.  They will offer to buy VRC at any rate in hopes that greed will make someone slip up.  I informed the IRC channel of this weeks ago and given these people are still coming back they probably need to get banned for the safety of IRC users.

Why altcoinUK keeps trying to lie here I have no idea, unless he is somehow related to the IRC scammers.  In any case.  If anyone wants to buy or sell alot of VRC at once, all you have to do is put the order on at a certain time and have your counterparty put their order on at the same time to match it.  Easy and Done.

On a side note.  For those who support the idea of Dev4, please PM your Devs and request this directly to them and ask them how you can help.

The above description of the event is purely based on the IRC trans-cript, what I described above are what EffectsToCause, Reavon and other users said/did in the IRC channel - and what an investor who just logged in could see in the IRC channel.

From investors viewpoint it is more important EffectsToCause's role in the scam, that he was actively facilitating an escrow to sell VRC for the 4 times of current market price, then discuss random user altcoinUK is a liar or not, don't you think?

However, if you make the accusation of that I am related in any form to the IRC scammers, if you accuse me of having any roles in that scam and you imply that I scam peoples in the IRC channel, then lets submit a subpoena to get the TCP/IP details including IP addresses and who was who in that shameful act. Are you still accusing me that I scam people in the IRC channel?



That's DO IT! I will write up the paper work!
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September 03, 2014, 11:40:55 PM
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So Pike and Raevon -among others- were not just trying to perpetrate highway robbery on IRC but actually entering the "business" of providing escrow services to assist in the robbery. Well, well, welll... it is good that we wont ever again try to sell the "good guys" image... Now, about those 200k VRC Nosker rushed to Mintpal when the 8 million were robbed... what was again the purpose? Ah yes you told me it was to controll all buys... sounds legit.
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